Post by: KarenCho on January 30, 2016, 12:10:09 am
Do we have any Class of 2017 NSW students who are just starting their Preliminary course?
I started this thread so that we can all find each other and hopefully be able to help each other develop good study habits in our trial year, discuss subject choices for HSC
There isn't that big a community yet for non-final year students, but hopefully there are some of you guys, like me, who have decided to start early and make the most of this amazing community!
- Karen :D
Post by: Alyssapensini on February 15, 2016, 01:00:14 pm
I'm in class of 2017! So glad there's someone else on here :)
Alyssa :)
Post by: jakesilove on February 15, 2016, 01:06:27 pm
If you have any questions, jump onto the forum. We're trying to build a HUGE community, so getting your friends onto Atar Notes is the best way to make sure that we keep releasing consistently high quality content, for free, for you. Looking forward to lots of interaction with your year group :)
Jake
Post by: KarenCho on February 15, 2016, 08:59:20 pm
Hey Karen!
I'm in class of 2017! So glad there's someone else on here :)
Alyssa :)
Hey Alyssa :D
So nice to meet you - there aren't that many of us on here yet, but hopefully they will come once they realise how awesome the resources and stuff are here! What subjects are you doing for your prelims?
Glad to see there is Class of 2017 involvement! Definitely check out the various forums (there are quite a few Preliminary questions), as well as the resources we release (most of the study techniques will absolutely apply to Year 11!).
If you have any questions, jump onto the forum. We're trying to build a HUGE community, so getting your friends onto Atar Notes is the best way to make sure that we keep releasing consistently high quality content, for free, for you. Looking forward to lots of interaction with your year group :)
Jake
Thanks Jake! :) What you, Elyse and Jamon have been doing has been amazing for the HSC community and I'm sure heaps more people will come to appreciate your hard work as the word spreads.
Post by: Alyssapensini on February 15, 2016, 09:01:24 pm
2U mathematics
Legal studies
Advanced English
1U religion
CAFS
PDHPE
Drama
:)
Post by: cindybuynh on February 17, 2016, 09:21:25 pm
My name is Cindy and I am also going to be a part of 2017!
I am extremely excited and anxious to start the hsc in term 4 :D ;D
Post by: qazser on February 17, 2016, 10:48:50 pm
Post by: caitlynmoore on February 27, 2016, 10:54:15 pm
I'm currently undergoing a compressed curriculum. Instead of having 6 subjects, "Year 11" for Preliminary and "Year 12" for HSC, I have 3 subjects each year, double periods each day and sit my HSC exams twice technically. I have a term and a half of Prelim (which starts 5 weeks into the end of term 4) and 2 terms of HSC. Interesting as I have less subjects to study yet double the pace of the topics to catch up to.
But saying that, I finish school in 2017! I'm currently taking English Advanced and Extension 1, Chemistry and Music 1 and I'm looking to do Modern History, Advanced and Extension Mathematics and Biology next year. Glad there are some 2017 graduates here, here's to the two years to come!
Post by: KarenCho on February 29, 2016, 07:17:53 pm
I'm doing
2U mathematics
Legal studies
Advanced English
1U religion
CAFS
PDHPE
Drama
:)
Hello guys,Nice to meet you guys!! :)
My name is Cindy and I am also going to be a part of 2017!
I am extremely excited and anxious to start the hsc in term 4 :D ;D
Could a kind soul explain how HSC works? Especially with the 5-6 different types of English and Maths.Sure! So in the your Preliminary year (usually year 11) you take a minimum of 12 units, and in your HSC year (usually year 12) you must take a minimum of 10 units. More info in the spoiler tab :)
Spoiler
Most subjects are worth 2 units each, however Maths and English have additional units (3 and 4 unit options). There are also some other subjects that are 1 unit subjects, such as Sports, Lifestyle & Recreation (SLR), Photography etc. For 2 unit courses, you get a mark out of 100, whereas for 1 unit courses you get a mark out of 50.
Maths
- General Maths (2 units)
- Advanced Maths (2 units)
- Extension 1 Maths (1 unit)
- Extension 2 Maths (1 unit)
So for maths, you can either choose to do only General Maths, only Advanced Maths, or Advanced Maths with just Ext 1, or Advanced Maths with Ext 1 and Ext 2. So, you can do either 2, 3 or 4 units of maths, each option being harder than the one previous. You can only take up Extension 2 Maths in Year 12 after having done well in Extension 1 Maths in Year 11 though.
English
- English as a Second Language (2 units)
- Standard English (2 units)
- Advanced English (2 units)
- Extension 1 English (1 unit)
- Extension 2 English (1 unit)
Works pretty much the same as the maths courses, except that while with maths, all content carries on, each unit of english is separate. For example, you would study a different text in your Advanced English class as compared to your Extension 1 English class. So you can take any one of the 2 unit options, or take Advanced English and then add on units from the 1 unit options.
There are some other 1 unit subjects, such as History Extension, which can only be picked up in Year 12 after having completed a History course in Year 11, but don't worry too much about something like that.
Does that make sense? Feel free to continue asking and/or PM me if you didn't get that and I'll try to explain it better :) I totally understand how it would be super hard to understand - I was super confused at first too!
Maths
- General Maths (2 units)
- Advanced Maths (2 units)
- Extension 1 Maths (1 unit)
- Extension 2 Maths (1 unit)
So for maths, you can either choose to do only General Maths, only Advanced Maths, or Advanced Maths with just Ext 1, or Advanced Maths with Ext 1 and Ext 2. So, you can do either 2, 3 or 4 units of maths, each option being harder than the one previous. You can only take up Extension 2 Maths in Year 12 after having done well in Extension 1 Maths in Year 11 though.
English
- English as a Second Language (2 units)
- Standard English (2 units)
- Advanced English (2 units)
- Extension 1 English (1 unit)
- Extension 2 English (1 unit)
Works pretty much the same as the maths courses, except that while with maths, all content carries on, each unit of english is separate. For example, you would study a different text in your Advanced English class as compared to your Extension 1 English class. So you can take any one of the 2 unit options, or take Advanced English and then add on units from the 1 unit options.
There are some other 1 unit subjects, such as History Extension, which can only be picked up in Year 12 after having completed a History course in Year 11, but don't worry too much about something like that.
Does that make sense? Feel free to continue asking and/or PM me if you didn't get that and I'll try to explain it better :) I totally understand how it would be super hard to understand - I was super confused at first too!
Glad someone made a post for this!Ooh, that's really interesting! What type of course would you be taking/what kind of program would allow for you to do this? That seems pretty cool because then you can sort of focus more on fewer subjects within that one year, as opposed to remembering stuff for a greater number of subjects throughout the two years.
I'm currently undergoing a compressed curriculum. Instead of having 6 subjects, "Year 11" for Preliminary and "Year 12" for HSC, I have 3 subjects each year, double periods each day and sit my HSC exams twice technically. I have a term and a half of Prelim (which starts 5 weeks into the end of term 4) and 2 terms of HSC. Interesting as I have less subjects to study yet double the pace of the topics to catch up to.
But saying that, I finish school in 2017! I'm currently taking English Advanced and Extension 1, Chemistry and Music 1 and I'm looking to do Modern History, Advanced and Extension Mathematics and Biology next year. Glad there are some 2017 graduates here, here's to the two years to come!
- Karen :D
Post by: Redsavage on March 01, 2016, 11:39:30 pm
I looked through all the 3U math in yr 11 and find it's kind of easy. Should I keep practice or start to look at 4U? I think I'm kind of worried about 4U math cause all my friends are keep telling me that 4U math are bloody hard works. If I'm going to start looking 4U math what topic should I start with? Or should I just go with the syllabus dot points?
Post by: Belkelly on March 02, 2016, 03:32:06 pm
I'm from Wagga :) Class of 2017. I'm sitting my HSC Bio and Modern History exam at the end of this year tho and i'm finding this site really helpful. If you have any tips at all regarding Bio and Modern History (WW1, Conflict in Europe, Albert Speer, and Germany 1918-1939) I would be very grateful!!!
Thanks :)
Post by: KarenCho on March 02, 2016, 05:43:32 pm
Hi guys, my name is Caroline. Forget about my stupid username..Hey! :) I personally don't take maths, but hopefully someone here does! Perhaps take a look at a 4U textbook/resources if you can get your hands on that kind of thing - you might find some at your school library? It will definitely be harder, but if you find 3U to be easy and you're up for a challenge, I'm sure you could do well!
For finding out more about where to start, I would recommend speaking to Jake at this forum, as he's super helpful with that kind of thing :)
Hi Everyone!Hey!! :) It's great to meet you! I also do modern history, but not at the HSC level yet. However, I would recommend checking out the following forums -
I'm from Wagga :) Class of 2017. I'm sitting my HSC Bio and Modern History exam at the end of this year tho and i'm finding this site really helpful. If you have any tips at all regarding Bio and Modern History (WW1, Conflict in Europe, Albert Speer, and Germany 1918-1939) I would be very grateful!!!
Thanks :)
modern history
- notes
- essay marking
- advice
- memorising stats
biology
- notes
- advice
Hope that helps! :)
- Karen :D
Post by: Belkelly on March 05, 2016, 03:25:03 pm
ttyl
Belkelly :)
Post by: KarenCho on March 11, 2016, 07:38:49 pm
Wow! Thanks Karen, these links are really helpful! Lovin this site, so handy.No worries! I'm glad you found them to be useful. Best of luck with your exams!! :D
ttyl
Belkelly :)
Post by: Alana99 on April 07, 2016, 07:59:32 pm
My name is Alana and I'm also in the 'Class Of 2017.' So glad there's a group like this!
Post by: conic curve on July 04, 2016, 09:12:17 am
Post by: kb123 on October 05, 2016, 01:36:27 pm
I am part of the class of 2017 too :)
Ahhh year 12 starts in less than a week EWWW
Anyway I hope we can help each other !!
Katya :)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 05, 2016, 01:44:11 pm
Hey!
I am part of the class of 2017 too :)
Ahhh year 12 starts in less than a week EWWW
Anyway I hope we can help each other !!
Katya :)
Welcome! Hope the start of Year 12 isn't too scary for you :) we hope this site will be an awesome place to collaborate and get help to meet your goals!! ;D
Post by: kb123 on October 06, 2016, 10:35:37 am
Hi guys, my name is Caroline. Forget about my stupid username..
Hi!
I'm planning to do 4U maths for HSC aswell. I did get a textbook and am having a look through the topics and trying some questions during these holidays :)
My maths tutor said that if you have done very well in the Extension 1 Preliminary course, you should definitly do 4U maths for the HSC. Yes- 4U maths is very hard, but it also scales INCREDIBLY well.
Katya :)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 06, 2016, 11:32:42 am
Hi!
I'm planning to do 4U maths for HSC aswell. I did get a textbook and am having a look through the topics and trying some questions during these holidays :)
My maths tutor said that if you have done very well in the Extension 1 Preliminary course, you should definitly do 4U maths for the HSC. Yes- 4U maths is very hard, but it also scales INCREDIBLY well.
Katya :)
Good on you for working ahead!! If you have a love for Mathematics (and aren't doing 4U just for the scaling effects), then 4U is a really rewarding course. Remember to stop by our Extension 2 question thread to get some help if you need it! :)
Post by: asd987 on October 07, 2016, 04:47:55 pm
Post by: Mickey66 on October 15, 2016, 10:32:34 am
Bit scary - anyone else doing VET IT on Monday?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 15, 2016, 11:24:29 am
Hi , I'm new here. Doing HSC in 2017, but doing accelerated VET IT now :o
Bit scary - anyone else doing VET IT on Monday?
Welcome Mickey! Good luck for your exam on Monday, bet you'll smash it! :)
Post by: mbdtHSC on October 29, 2016, 11:27:18 pm
Feeling the stress already with 3 weeks left until first assessment periods for all my subjects. Have three 2U Eng tasks this term already and History Ext proposal to do. Grateful that stress propels me to work a lot harder, otherwise I'd probably fall behind some of my super hard-working friends
Post by: elysepopplewell on November 07, 2016, 06:25:45 pm
Helloooo, just found this place :D
Feeling the stress already with 3 weeks left until first assessment periods for all my subjects. Have three 2U Eng tasks this term already and History Ext proposal to do. Grateful that stress propels me to work a lot harder, otherwise I'd probably fall behind some of my super hard-working friends
Let us know if we can be of any help to you throughout the HSC year! We're here to help :)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on November 08, 2016, 09:25:13 pm
Post by: mbdtHSC on November 09, 2016, 11:57:02 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on November 10, 2016, 12:27:19 am
Just been grinding away at maths and pushing chem and bio aside for now. It's hard to find motivation to do a tonne of chem/bio theory papers because they're only weighted 5% for this assessment block ://
Feels... I've been so busy this semester, anything worth less than 10% was a "wing it" scenario ... Just thank your lucky stars you aren't at uni with quizzes worth 6%, or even 1% at a time ;)
Post by: RuiAce on November 10, 2016, 07:29:51 am
Just been grinding away at maths and pushing chem and bio aside for now. It's hard to find motivation to do a tonne of chem/bio theory papers because they're only weighted 5% for this assessment block ://Just do as many as you need. Pretty much as you implied it's not like the trials where the weightings are spiked much more.
Feels... I've been so busy this semester, anything worth less than 10% was a "wing it" scenario ... Just thank your lucky stars you aren't at uni with quizzes worth 6%, or even 1% at a time ;)Ok mr second year :P
Post by: mbdtHSC on December 17, 2016, 12:46:13 am
Post by: jamonwindeyer on December 17, 2016, 12:53:32 am
Haha a big aim for these holidays is to get a better idea of what I actually want to do at uni. Kinda sucks studying without a clear aim in mind :P
Don't worry! I had rough ideas but I really didn't decide properly until the middle of Year 12!! Do a bit of research over the holidays and see if you spot anything that seems interesting (maybe even go to some of the Info Days for the graduating class of 2016?) ;D
Post by: mbdtHSC on December 17, 2016, 01:01:40 am
I really want to know how the UNSW Law entry works for taking into account both ATAR and LAT result, but they haven't released much information :(
Post by: jamonwindeyer on December 17, 2016, 01:49:02 am
I need to start UMAT prep these holidays but now I doubt med is a good choice for me HAHA
I really want to know how the UNSW Law entry works for taking into account both ATAR and LAT result, but they haven't released much information :(
The only info I know is in this thread; In addition, you may want to send Lauradf36 (the original poster of that thread) a nice private message asking her how it all worked, she's the only person I know who sat that test! :)
Post by: RuiAce on December 17, 2016, 09:30:34 am
I need to start UMAT prep these holidays but now I doubt med is a good choice for me HAHAIf med isn't a good choice for you then you shouldn't think about it.
I really want to know how the UNSW Law entry works for taking into account both ATAR and LAT result, but they haven't released much information :(
You will have to contact UNSW law if you require further information. They aren't necessarily obliged to release the split between ATAR and LAT in counting towards your enrolment, but with good reason.
If they release too much information regarding the ATAR and LAT (e.g. say 40% ATAR 60% LAT), then students will begin to think oh I HAVE to put more emphasis on the LAT. If they release, say, 50%-50%, they'll put in effort just to balance it out, not necessarily push. By leaving some kind of ambiguity, you are forced to push harder in both methods of assessment.
This gives you some 'loading'. If you mess up one by a tiny amount, but still blitz the other, you're going to get in anyhow.
They want you performance across both to be the best. And because one may get in due to a 99.7 ATAR, whilst another gets in from being in the 95th percentile in the LAT, it's hard to disclose a fully defined algorithm just like that. Of course, you can try your chances with UNSW law; it doesn't hurt at all and there's always a chance they WILL disclose something. But don't expect anything.
Post by: RuiAce on January 05, 2017, 08:38:38 pm
Post by: tissue on January 25, 2017, 02:20:33 pm
Post by: Rathin on January 25, 2017, 05:57:52 pm
anyone else feel like crap that they did basically nothing worthwhile study-wise these holidays? I was way more motivated at the start of year11 and now I feel burnt out. I was content with my results from prelim but seeing as they do not count towards my ATAR I see myself having to start this process all over again, something that I have no enthusiasm for anymore(I made this sound a lot more sombre than reality :P).
Yes, I feel the same! I feel so guilty for not doing much..only did 2u and 3u Integration these holidays which is barely anything.
Post by: Syndicate on January 25, 2017, 06:01:30 pm
anyone else feel like crap that they did basically nothing worthwhile study-wise these holidays? I was way more motivated at the start of year11 and now I feel burnt out. I was content with my results from prelim but seeing as they do not count towards my ATAR I see myself having to start this process all over again, something that I have no enthusiasm for anymore(I made this sound a lot more sombre than reality :P).
Yes, I feel the same! I feel so guilty for not doing much..only did 2u and 3u Integration these holidays which is barely anything.
I haven't done much myself either.... I was expecting to finish one of my subject courses, but I was only able to finish 3 chapters. Now, I only have 1 week to go, and I still have a myriad of English and chemistry homework to do.
Post by: kyli on January 25, 2017, 06:03:31 pm
anyone else feel like crap that they did basically nothing worthwhile study-wise these holidays? I was way more motivated at the start of year11 and now I feel burnt out. I was content with my results from prelim but seeing as they do not count towards my ATAR I see myself having to start this process all over again, something that I have no enthusiasm for anymore(I made this sound a lot more sombre than reality :P).
Hey! I know exactly what you mean by feeling 'burnt out'. Truth is, we can attribute a few reasons to this- I can think of two right now:
- Putting in too many hours of study at one go- although this may seem productive, it's really not. Usually there are two outcomes, one being half-heartedly studying for the whole time
and typically getting distracted, equating to a much lower amount of actually productive work, or throughsome kind of miracleincredible self-discipline, actually forcing yourself to concentrate for a large period of time. Except the problem with this is that you feel a LOT less motivated to do your work after this, often for days, sometimes even longer, due to exhausting your willpower (I read about this in an article, I will link it if I can find it again). This often is described as 'burning out'. As you can see, the second outcome is a lose-lose situation, and we don't want to be feeling like this in Year 12. - Maybe a more likely reason in your case, might be a feeling of demotivation because you're not sure what exactly you're aiming for. On the contrary, perhaps you've
planned your whole future outhad a goal in mind, and/or a dream career, and now you're not sure where you stand. Or you do presently still have a specific goal, but for some reason, the motivation just isn't coming. In this case, you need to find out what's working for you and what isn't. Whether you have plans for what comes after the HSC, you still have to do it (provided that you are taking the exam, which I can assume you are since you asked this question), so you need to find your purpose. But not just any purpose, something that you know you'll work towards. Sometimes having smaller goals and similarly small rewards for accomplishing these can be more effective than having a long-term, vague goal that you're consistently working towards. Of course this all depends on what works for you.
As for these holidays: undoubtedly, some people use them to get a head start on their work for the upcoming year, but not everybody does. Remember that there are many people just like you- they may also feel burnt out, or demotivated, and haven't done anything these holidays. But there's definitely hope, so don't give up on your dreams just yet! It's not too late to start. Although having a headstart might be advantageous, don't forget that you still haven't learnt this content at school, so you haven't missed out on anything! If you're really worried, you could read up on the first few dot points of each subject area for all your subjects, so that you have a brief idea of what's happening as you get back into regular school work. Even revising content from last term can be really helpful. Alternatively, sign up for an ATAR Notes Lecture so that you get the best of both worlds :P
In all honesty, only you can motivate yourself to be, well, motivated. After
Post by: tissue on January 25, 2017, 08:26:36 pm
I haven't done much myself either.... I was expecting to finish one of my subject courses, but I was only able to finish 3 chapters. Now, I only have 1 week to go, and I still have a myriad of English and chemistry homework to do.
Yes, I feel the same! I feel so guilty for not doing much..only did 2u and 3u Integration these holidays which is barely anything.
Glad you guys can relate, makes me feel a bit better. ;D ;D Time to get back into the school routine though.
I feel motivated after reading that reply already(genuinely) :D :D In all seriousness, you really put some sense into me and I totally agree with everything you said(especially the productivity bit). I'll try to have fresh start at school next week and really try to get myself organised and plan for the remaining 3 terms ahead. Thanks for the advice!
Mod edit: Double post merged. Please only double post when necessary.
Post by: Neilab on February 12, 2017, 01:08:15 pm
Hey! I know exactly what you mean by feeling 'burnt out'. Truth is, we can attribute a few reasons to this- I can think of two right now:
- Putting in too many hours of study at one go- although this may seem productive, it's really not. Usually there are two outcomes, one being half-heartedly studying for the whole time
and typically getting distracted, equating to a much lower amount of actually productive work, or throughsome kind of miracleincredible self-discipline, actually forcing yourself to concentrate for a large period of time. Except the problem with this is that you feel a LOT less motivated to do your work after this, often for days, sometimes even longer, due to exhausting your willpower (I read about this in an article, I will link it if I can find it again). This often is described as 'burning out'. As you can see, the second outcome is a lose-lose situation, and we don't want to be feeling like this in Year 12.- Maybe a more likely reason in your case, might be a feeling of demotivation because you're not sure what exactly you're aiming for. On the contrary, perhaps you've
planned your whole future outhad a goal in mind, and/or a dream career, and now you're not sure where you stand. Or you do presently still have a specific goal, but for some reason, the motivation just isn't coming. In this case, you need to find out what's working for you and what isn't. Whether you have plans for what comes after the HSC, you still have to do it (provided that you are taking the exam, which I can assume you are since you asked this question), so you need to find your purpose. But not just any purpose, something that you know you'll work towards. Sometimes having smaller goals and similarly small rewards for accomplishing these can be more effective than having a long-term, vague goal that you're consistently working towards. Of course this all depends on what works for you.
As for these holidays: undoubtedly, some people use them to get a head start on their work for the upcoming year, but not everybody does. Remember that there are many people just like you- they may also feel burnt out, or demotivated, and haven't done anything these holidays. But there's definitely hope, so don't give up on your dreams just yet! It's not too late to start. Although having a headstart might be advantageous, don't forget that you still haven't learnt this content at school, so you haven't missed out on anything! If you're really worried, you could read up on the first few dot points of each subject area for all your subjects, so that you have a brief idea of what's happening as you get back into regular school work. Even revising content from last term can be really helpful. Alternatively, sign up for an ATAR Notes Lecture so that you get the best of both worlds :P
In all honesty, only you can motivate yourself to be, well, motivated. Aftersurvivingprelims, all of us are like "oh no not again!" but just remember that Year 12 is ONE year, which is a comparatively small time to invest effort and hard work into, if you think about the long life you have ahead of you. And definitely remember that there are many alternative pathways to reach the same outcome. Don't feel like crap, you can do this! :)
Hey dude! this post was really helpful - I often find myself "burning out" after too much work!
Post by: beau77bro on February 12, 2017, 09:21:08 pm
Thankyou for even reading this Hahahah, appreciate any replies thankyou again.
Would I be able to message any of u more specific questions about study and how I should approach things?
Post by: RuiAce on February 12, 2017, 09:48:41 pm
Hello, I know this isn't exactly something that anyone can answer directly. But how do I stay motivated whilst studying? And how do I know where I need to improve? I'm currently attending an alright school but the assessments haven't been super challenging (minus my English assessment which was dumb AF and I know I'm gonna have to step up English anyway even tho it was dumb) and I've smashed them. 4u was relatively easy and so was Chem and phys assessments, and they weren't really exam orientated so how do I know where my holes are? And the second, probably more annoying part is how do you stay motivated day to day. Studying consistently. I think that's something that is really important, right now I suck at it. One day I can do 5 hours of solid study, smash out everything, others I can do a bit. But recently (atleast 3x a week) I just get ceebs and can't do anything. How did u guys, mighty gods of atar notes stay motivated, keep consistent and stay on top of stuff(I'm on top of stuff, but wanna get all the help I can get). Any tips and tricks or just a plain mindset you need to take on the HSC.Staying motivated usually requires a goal to underpin it. And one may argue that goal should be pluralised, because once you surpass one goal you stack a new one over it. You need that target to keep you motivated, because things that are more comfortable (aka. procrastination material) sway you away about as easily as magnesium gets oxidised. Occasionally, the goal may be just be the negative connotations of pressure and deadlines breathing down your back, but try to redirect them to you wanting to attain ____ result.
Thankyou for even reading this Hahahah, appreciate any replies thankyou again.
Would I be able to message any of u more specific questions about study and how I should approach things?
Really depends on what subject as to how you find your areas of improvement. For something like English, if you really don't see where your marks were lost you need to consult with your teacher. They are the ones that put a mark on your paper. Some teachers are (ironically) nicer than others in that when you do lose marks, they obliterate your essays with reasons and suggestions for improvement. You're just going to have to see them, usually. If your teacher is one of the more careless types, well don't forget that there's an essay marking service on this forum to find all of your holes.
Whereas for something like physics and chemistry, in all honesty if you do past papers and compare your responses to the marking criteria, then you should know where the faults are there.
I don't think I ever did 5 hours a day unless I had a ton of exams coming right at me... Most might say that this is normal, but in all honesty I probably put in at most 3 hours a day. That being said, this is again about goals. Also, you do not study continuously anyway. You put in breaks, and you're harsh to yourself about the breaks (timetabling) so that once time's up, you get straight back down to work. Gotta be more forceful than usual at times.
Post by: beau77bro on February 12, 2017, 10:07:58 pm
Now 3u, has frankly gotten boring and I'm lacking the motivation to do it because it's not challenging. I thought terry Lee might be the solution, but it's over the top and draining for the most part. Are trial questions the answer? What are the options? Thankyou for ur already great response sorry for so many hahaha.
Post by: RuiAce on February 12, 2017, 10:18:10 pm
Remember for maths, past papers overrules all. Whilst past papers are beneficial to every subject, this is especially true for maths. The subject is skill-based in its entirety, and the only way to prepare for what you'll see in the exam is actually doing the questions that were already in the exams. Pick a good handful (you should keep SOME foundation questions there, not rely entirely on development sections) of questions to do out of textbooks, and then prepare to migrate out.
That being said, until it's exam preparation time, there's nothing wrong with a bit of a balance between textbook questions and trial papers.
If you're bored of the textbook, just stick to past papers. There's nothing worth commenting on until you start getting bored of the trial papers for 3U.
Post by: beau77bro on February 12, 2017, 10:38:41 pm
Post by: kiiaaa on March 13, 2017, 04:39:05 pm
firstly when will you next set of lectures be for the HSC course? they are amazing like i cant tell how helpful useful and insightful they are and i just want more more and more of them
secondly. do you have any plans of opening an NSW Tutesmart? it seems really cool and ill really like it but it is for the VCE.
and lastly, are you going to make and HSC topic test books for other subjects and if so which ones? if possible could you please try for maths and bio please?
Thank you very much. your team is fantabulous and very helpful and im so glad i came across this.
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 13, 2017, 04:54:53 pm
Hi atar notes! I had a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering for me please
Hey! I'll do my best!! ;D
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firstly when will you next set of lectures be for the HSC course? they are amazing like i cant tell how helpful useful and insightful they are and i just want more more and more of them
Aw, you are too kind, SO glad they are so useful for you! ;D the next set of lectures will be in July (almost definitely the holidays) right before most people do their Trial Exams! And they will be bigger and better than ever before ;D
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secondly. do you have any plans of opening an NSW Tutesmart? it seems really cool and ill really like it but it is for the VCE.
Never say never, it's a really cool idea that has been received amazingly by VCE students ;D
And just adding, I got the chance to visit the centre for the first time earlier in the year. So. Bloody. Awesome. So I'd be super keen to see it here, that's for sure ;D
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and lastly, are you going to make and HSC topic test books for other subjects and if so which ones? if possible could you please try for maths and bio please?
HSC Topic Tests books are coming for other subjects!
Math? Yep ;D
Bio? Yep ;D
And we'll let you know as those become available, but they are in the pipeline! :)
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Thank you very much. your team is fantabulous and very helpful and im so glad i came across this.
You are very welcome! So happy we can be helpful to you! ;D
Post by: kiiaaa on March 13, 2017, 06:18:51 pm
Hey! I'll do my best!! ;D
Aw, you are too kind, SO glad they are so useful for you! ;D the next set of lectures will be in July (almost definitely the holidays) right before most people do their Trial Exams! And they will be bigger and better than ever before ;D
Never say never, it's a really cool idea that has been received amazingly by VCE students ;D
And just adding, I got the chance to visit the centre for the first time earlier in the year. So. Bloody. Awesome. So I'd be super keen to see it here, that's for sure ;D
HSC Topic Tests books are coming for other subjects!
Math? Yep ;D
Bio? Yep ;D
And we'll let you know as those become available, but they are in the pipeline! :)
You are very welcome! So happy we can be helpful to you! ;D
YOU GUYS ARE LEGENDS THANK YOU SOO MUCH! cant wait to get em topic tests!
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 28, 2017, 08:22:35 pm
Post by: kiwiberry on March 28, 2017, 10:06:07 pm
How did everyones half yearly exams go? If you're still going, feeling confident? Keen to hear how you have all gone! ;D
I finished last week, such a relief :D They were mostly ok (i hope)! Confident about maths but I'm worried about english because I nearly ran out of time writing my essay and had to cut some bits out :s haven't gotten anything back though so can't be sure haha
Post by: RuiAce on March 28, 2017, 10:09:15 pm
I finished last week, such a relief :D They were mostly ok (i hope)! Confident about maths but I'm worried about english because I nearly ran out of time writing my essay and had to cut some bits out :s haven't gotten anything back though so can't be sure hahaYou're giving me deja vu right here :P
(Albeit for me it was the trials)
Post by: chelseam on March 28, 2017, 10:17:12 pm
How did everyones half yearly exams go? If you're still going, feeling confident? Keen to hear how you have all gone! ;D
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 28, 2017, 10:21:18 pm
Mine are this week and next week! I'm feeling a pretty nervous tbh... I've never had two exams on the same day before so that'll be an interesting experience :P
You'll smash it! Check out this guide on that exact experience ;)
I finished last week, such a relief :D They were mostly ok (i hope)! Confident about maths but I'm worried about english because I nearly ran out of time writing my essay and had to cut some bits out :s haven't gotten anything back though so can't be sure haha
Awesome work kiwi! Keen to hear some awesome results from your corner, and don't worry! There's always that one exam that worries you a little :)
Post by: sudodds on March 28, 2017, 10:27:55 pm
I finished last week, such a relief :D They were mostly ok (i hope)! Confident about maths but I'm worried about english because I nearly ran out of time writing my essay and had to cut some bits out :s haven't gotten anything back though so can't be sure hahaCongratulations! And don't worry too much, in pretty much every subject, including English, I inevitably ran out of time and had to cut things out and it very rarely (I actually can't remember a situation!) brought my mark down, at least in any significant, noticeable way. I'm sure you did fantastically!
Post by: Diala on March 29, 2017, 11:03:49 am
OR
It has nothing to do with the rank, its an individual thing, no one steals your mark.
I have zero idea which is true! Does anyone know?
Thank you so much <3
Post by: jakesilove on March 29, 2017, 11:14:21 am
Hi! Sorry if this isn't the right thread but I'm super confused about ranks and ATAR stuff at the moment because people are telling me 2 different things: It's all about the rank, whoever comes first in the year for that subject takes the highest mark in the HSC (aka steals a mark if theirs isnt the highest)
OR
It has nothing to do with the rank, its an individual thing, no one steals your mark.
I have zero idea which is true! Does anyone know?
Thank you so much <3
Hey! Check out an awesome guide Jamon wrote about HSC scaling!
Post by: kiiaaa on April 03, 2017, 04:16:21 pm
I dont know if excel or dotpoint is better and for which subject =/ any reviews, suggestions and opinions are all appreciated.
Thank youuuuu :)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 03, 2017, 04:29:08 pm
Hello, i was wondering what type of text/workbooks would you recommend me to use and buy for business studies and legal studies?
I dont know if excel or dotpoint is better and for which subject =/ any reviews, suggestions and opinions are all appreciated.
Thank youuuuu :)
Hey! I personally think the ATAR Notes Study Notes are amazing for both Legal and Business, but of course, I am a biased person ;D definitely worth considering though!
I had the Excel book for Legal - In honesty I didn't use it much beyond a quick reference here or there, definitely great if you are the sort of person that likes having multiple in depth sources! It just didn't personally offer me much that the textbook didn't have :) never used the Dotpoints books but have heard they are good!
Post by: Bubbly_bluey on April 05, 2017, 02:10:01 pm
How did everyones half yearly exams go? If you're still going, feeling confident? Keen to hear how you have all gone! ;DJust finished chem today and physics gonna be on last day of school :'(
One exam left to go ;D
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 05, 2017, 02:11:10 pm
Just finished chem today and physics gonna be on last day of school :'(
One exam left to go ;D
Nice Bubbly! I bet you'll smash it! ;D
Post by: kiiaaa on April 06, 2017, 02:12:23 pm
I'm considering to undertake a degree in either Business management, law, accounting or actuarial studies post HSC. I'm wondering which universities such as Macq/UTS/ USyd/ UNSW and was wondering which universities offer best career opportunities after graduation such as a job internship etc. so i can set myself an atar goal to work towards. I'd love to hear from you and if you know which uni is best to go to for those areas. Im quite lost in terms of what is a good uni to aim towards
Thank you very much! :)
Post by: Thebarman on April 09, 2017, 06:38:20 pm
How did everyones half yearly exams go? If you're still going, feeling confident? Keen to hear how you have all gone! ;D
Finished up my last exam on Wednesday before taking a well earned weekend away. Business studies was a mess and probably the worst exam I've done in a long time. The other few weren't too bad, a few mistakes here and there, but nothing too major to fret over (hopefully). Feeling extremely confident with biology though, I'm pretty sure I smashed it!
Thanks to everyone who helped out during this exam block. The help was much appreciated (and much needed), and I/everyone wouldn't have been able to get through the exams without you all!
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 09, 2017, 09:20:47 pm
Hello All!
I'm considering to undertake a degree in either Business management, law, accounting or actuarial studies post HSC. I'm wondering which universities such as Macq/UTS/ USyd/ UNSW and was wondering which universities offer best career opportunities after graduation such as a job internship etc. so i can set myself an atar goal to work towards. I'd love to hear from you and if you know which uni is best to go to for those areas. Im quite lost in terms of what is a good uni to aim towards
Thank you very much! :)
Hey kiaaa! Sorry it took so long for me to reply, I meant to give you this link but it slipped my mind. That is an article on choosing universities, how to do some research and what things to consider! ;D
I don't know much about the specifics of those degrees for those four universities - I know of some people who could be worth asking over PM (unless they read this) and they might be able to lend a hand? RuiAce does Actuarial at UNSW, isaacdelatorre does Law at UNSW - Could be biased opinions there but they could have an insight!
Best of luck with the choice! Ultimately, all are great institutions, go with what seems to be the best fit for you personally ;D
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 09, 2017, 09:25:30 pm
Finished up my last exam on Wednesday before taking a well earned weekend away. Business studies was a mess and probably the worst exam I've done in a long time. The other few weren't too bad, a few mistakes here and there, but nothing too major to fret over (hopefully). Feeling extremely confident with biology though, I'm pretty sure I smashed it!
Thanks to everyone who helped out during this exam block. The help was much appreciated (and much needed), and I/everyone wouldn't have been able to get through the exams without you all!
Niiicely done barman, hope you enjoyed the time off! Well deserved! ;D
Sounds like a great performance overall. Don't worry about Business, figure out what went wrong and fix it - Just a learning experience is all it is :) keen to hear some awesome results coming back next term!! Thanks for being an awesome part of the forums ;D
Post by: kiiaaa on April 11, 2017, 11:32:23 am
Hey kiaaa! Sorry it took so long for me to reply, I meant to give you this link but it slipped my mind. That is an article on choosing universities, how to do some research and what things to consider! ;D
I don't know much about the specifics of those degrees for those four universities - I know of some people who could be worth asking over PM (unless they read this) and they might be able to lend a hand? RuiAce does Actuarial at UNSW, isaacdelatorre does Law at UNSW - Could be biased opinions there but they could have an insight!
Best of luck with the choice! Ultimately, all are great institutions, go with what seems to be the best fit for you personally ;D
thank you so much Jamon! Your really very helpful. I'd like to thank you in general for all the help you provide for us students like me scraping it through high school. It make such a difference
EDIT: could i also take this opportunity to thank the rest of the AN Team. You guys made a big difference for my half yearlies as help was at my fingertips. I dont know if there rest of the team is seeing this but if so thank you very much again and again. it is an understatement if i say you guys are amazeballs.
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 11, 2017, 12:41:04 pm
thank you so much Jamon! Your really very helpful. I'd like to thank you in general for all the help you provide for us students like me scraping it through high school. It make such a difference
EDIT: could i also take this opportunity to thank the rest of the AN Team. You guys made a big difference for my half yearlies as help was at my fingertips. I dont know if there rest of the team is seeing this but if so thank you very much again and again. it is an understatement if i say you guys are amazeballs.
Thanks SO much for your kind words!! I'll make sure the team sees your message ;D seriously so happy that we've been able to help you :)
Ps - Amazeballs is the best adjective I've ever had applied to me ;)
Post by: kiiaaa on April 12, 2017, 08:53:04 pm
i was wondering if anyone had nice template to make a study timetable out of. when i try to make myself one all that happens is i write. comehome chill till 4 then a block of just study till10. is that how it is meant to be or should it be more precise such as 1hr maths 30 mins legal etc? i really dont know how to create a timetable that is effective and possible to adhere to. Any tips? ???
thank you :D :D :D
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 12, 2017, 08:59:50 pm
hello again!
i was wondering if anyone had nice template to make a study timetable out of. when i try to make myself one all that happens is i write. comehome chill till 4 then a block of just study till10. is that how it is meant to be or should it be more precise such as 1hr maths 30 mins legal etc? i really dont know how to create a timetable that is effective and possible to adhere to. Any tips? ???
thank you :D :D :D
Hey kiiaaa! I've written a study timetable guide and you can read it here! ;D that said, some sort of template file for a study timetable is actually a seriously brilliant idea. I might make one! ;D
Post by: kiiaaa on April 12, 2017, 10:55:10 pm
Hey kiiaaa! I've written a study timetable guide and you can read it here! ;D that said, some sort of template file for a study timetable is actually a seriously brilliant idea. I might make one! ;D
jamon. You're a legend! Thank you :)
Post by: Zainbow on April 21, 2017, 01:40:19 pm
edit: Is this a prelim thread? I just realised soz
Post by: RuiAce on April 21, 2017, 01:42:32 pm
edit: Is this a prelim thread? I just realised sozNah.
Post by: Thebarman on April 21, 2017, 01:55:11 pm
Post by: Zainbow on April 21, 2017, 02:01:17 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 21, 2017, 03:49:49 pm
Would the exam dates that were leaked be pretty much what we can expect now? Or are they going to change since they were released a bit early?
I agree, they wouldn't change them just because some people saw them early, it's not like those people are at an advantage
did you guys see your timetables? Are you happy with it assuming it will be the same?
Post by: Zainbow on April 21, 2017, 05:03:41 pm
I agree, they wouldn't change them just because some people saw them early, it's not like those people are at an advantage
If it stays the same then I'm extremely happy. Other than english, the two closest exams are two days apart :)
Also I heard they doubled up music (not sure which) with english paper 1
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 21, 2017, 05:14:02 pm
If it stays the same then I'm extremely happy. Other than english, the two closest exams are two days apart :)
Also I heard they doubled up music (not sure which) with english paper 1
Nice!! That would be Music 1 - They always do that, I had it in my year as well ;D
Post by: RuiAce on April 21, 2017, 05:24:52 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 21, 2017, 06:40:12 pm
A collection of past HSC exam timetables if anyone wants to do an analysis
Are you asking me to form a confidence interval for the date of every exam based on every previous exam for that subject?
That would be the coolest thing ever to try actually...
Post by: RuiAce on April 22, 2017, 07:32:42 am
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 22, 2017, 09:22:30 am
Offers to be made SIGNIFICANTLY earlier this year
I really love this, such a good move. What do you guys all think of this?
Post by: Rathin on April 23, 2017, 12:53:20 pm
I really love this, such a good move. What do you guys all think of this?
Great Idea! I think I will still have to wait till January as physiotherapy is a very competitive course.
Post by: armtistic on April 23, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 23, 2017, 09:15:47 pm
I feel like this is something they should've implemented earlier. Although if competitive courses are still delayed to January maybe it won't affect me either way :D
I'd say MOST courses will do the offers in December now, purely to avoid frustration and disillusionment - Fingers crossed at least! Would be a shame if institutions started using backdoors to sidestep the changes
Post by: Thebarman on April 30, 2017, 09:42:56 pm
Sounds like a great performance overall. Don't worry about Business, figure out what went wrong and fix it - Just a learning experience is all it is :) keen to hear some awesome results coming back next term!! Thanks for being an awesome part of the forums ;D
Thought you might be interested to know that I managed to get 58/75 for business studies, which was 6 marks off from the top mark. Definitely not an amazing mark, but it's better than what I expected. Considering how I rushed through that exam, I think that I could easily improve this mark next time around based on what I did wrong here.
As for the HSC timetable, looks like all my exams will be crammed into the first two weeks. There's definitely some pros and cons to that.
What about everyone else? Are you happy with your HSC exam timetable?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on April 30, 2017, 10:56:46 pm
Thought you might be interested to know that I managed to get 58/75 for business studies, which was 6 marks off from the top mark. Definitely not an amazing mark, but it's better than what I expected. Considering how I rushed through that exam, I think that I could easily improve this mark next time around based on what I did wrong here.
You can't measure success in absolutes, you measure it in progress - If you are happy with your mark then you were successful, sounds like a killer result to me all things considered! ;D
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As for the HSC timetable, looks like all my exams will be crammed into the first two weeks. There's definitely some pros and cons to that.
Yikes, it'll be intense! Nothing you can't handle if you are prepared, and you'll get an early holiday! ;)
Post by: kiiaaa on May 07, 2017, 09:13:37 pm
so I don't know how to really explain this but I'll say it in the best possible way
so basically I feel like I have lost motivation to do the actual work. I like to make a to-do list which is achievable and realistic but when it comes to doing the actual work I just ceebs if it makes sense. like I may get everything out to do it and then just subconsciously without realizing open google chrome and next minute I'm either scrolling through atarnotes (sometimes on forums that aren't even useful to me eg. eco help forum. I don't even do eco lol) or in on refreshing my emails. I don't have FB so that ain't an issue but I just feel super not bothered and not motivated. I sit on my desk laptop on everything is ready to go but doing the actual work I'm totally not motivated to do. any help? I really need to boost my motivation as I want to do extra tasks to hand into my teacher but lack the will to actually complete them
thank you so much and I hope all that made sense. :) :) ;) ;)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on May 07, 2017, 10:55:05 pm
next minute I'm either scrolling through atarnotes (sometimes on forums that aren't even useful to me eg. eco help forum, I don't even do eco lol)
Best form of procrastination ;)
I think a lack of motivation at this stage of the year is really normal kiiaaa, so never fear! ;D I think you should figure out ways to first, remove your sources of procrastination. You can download apps/extensions that block certain (or all) websites for certain periods of time. So, for example, you could sit down to study and (I shudder as I type this) block yourself from AN for 2 hours. I used to do it for YouTube all the time (I don't anymore, I've given in...) ;D ditch your phone, ditch everything but your work. Good working environment is so vital! Also make sure you are getting enough sleep, eating the right things - Looking after yourself is a big part of staying motivated ;D
Next, try and remember why you are working. What are your long term goals for your subject marks? ATAR goals? Course goals? Keep these in mind and trace back to where you are now. Things you do now can seem insignificant because Trials and the HSC are both so far away, but thinking long term can help that mindset :)
Besides that, try and just settle into a routine, light if necessary! Like, don't be afraid to do a 20 minute AN session after an hour of study, or check your emails once every hour. Work with yourself, don't try and fight yourself, and you'll be more energised as a result ;D
Finally, check out this oldie but a goodie. Motivational thread! ;D
Post by: Diala on May 08, 2017, 07:25:59 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on May 08, 2017, 08:37:49 pm
Hey there! So I'm completing my HSC this year and I'm seriously feeling the pressure... it's so chaotic that I stress about stressing over the stress of everything. I know, super crazy! I'm struggling to figure out how to get my studies organised because I can't go over all my subjects in 1 day if I want to do understand the content efficiently. So I'm wondering what tips you have for managing subjects and starting to learn the content? Also, do you suggest memorising now? Or going over the past topics? I feel like I'm meant to be on top of things but it's all getting so out of hand :(
Hey Diala! ;D don't worry, stressing about the stress of stress is pretty common at some point in the HSC - It's a tough year! ;)
At this stage, you should focus on understanding the content being presented to you, first and foremost. Don't revise unless you are managing what you are getting right now (no point falling behind to revise, counterintuitive). Start figuring out a routine that works and slowly start edging revision time in where you can. But don't feel like you need to be revising heaps - It needs to be manageable. Maybe you have 1 hour a weekend to brush up on content from Term 4 last year - Great!! Get your current content down first, whatever that takes :)
A few things that could be useful:
- Time Management Guide
- How to Make a Study Timetable
- Ways to Study Effectively
- What You Should Be Doing in Term 2 (a VCE article, helpful for HSC students nonetheless!)
But you are doing really well even just for caring so much about your results! Hang in there, and try to keep yourself relaxed ;D
Post by: DonQ on May 13, 2017, 06:47:37 pm
Do you know if the TUTESMART program on ATARnotes is available in NSW for HSC
Post by: jamonwindeyer on May 13, 2017, 08:18:09 pm
Hey,
Do you know if the TUTESMART program on ATARnotes is available in NSW for HSC
It is unfortunately not
it is a shame because it is such a cool program!
Post by: DonQ on May 14, 2017, 08:57:28 am
Post by: Zainbow on May 16, 2017, 05:03:31 pm
Thanks :)
Post by: RuiAce on May 16, 2017, 05:07:06 pm
Hey! Does anyone have any tips for studying for trials? Like, would it be the same study routine for half yearlies? I know that past papers are a great method, but I just wanted to know if anyone had anything to add. It's because our trials are at the end of this term and I wanted to get a headstart in studying.The only differences between the trial and half yearly exam blocks are:
Thanks :)
1. You may or may not have it after holidays, which gives you a stuvac (study vacation)
2. Your notes should actually be done (excluding content not examinable for trials)
3. Because the same things get asked in trials for most schools, you have more resources available this time round
4. There's more content to stuff in your head
Everything else is honestly the same
Post by: Zainbow on May 16, 2017, 05:08:53 pm
The only differences between the trial and half yearly exam blocks are:
1. You may or may not have it after holidays, which gives you a stuvac (study vacation)
2. Your notes should actually be done (excluding content not examinable for trials)
3. Because the same things get asked in trials for most schools, you have more resources available this time round
4. There's more content to stuff in your head
Everything else is honestly the same
Thanks Rui
Post by: mohanedibrahim1 on May 20, 2017, 09:01:51 pm
Post by: RuiAce on May 20, 2017, 09:02:43 pm
Hi there, I regret choosing standard English as i should of chose Advanced English, but i can still get a band 6 right?Someone else will write a comprehensive answer to your query, but I'll simply impose this question back at you.
Why wouldn't you be able to?
Post by: EEEEEEP on May 20, 2017, 09:18:09 pm
Hi there, I regret choosing standard English as i should of chose Advanced English, but i can still get a band 6 right?I can't tell you or can't get a band 6, but the best you can do is try =)
Post by: sudodds on May 20, 2017, 09:50:00 pm
Hi there, I regret choosing standard English as i should of chose Advanced English, but i can still get a band 6 right?hey :) There is no reason why you can't get a band 6. Is getting a band 6 notoriously hard in Standard? Unfortunately yes. However it's important to understand why. One of the big reasons is that in Paper 1 you are marked against Advanced students, who aren't naturally more gifted at English, however may have been given more sophisticated texts to study, or resources that are considered "more advanced." Thus, going into the exam a lot of Standard students are naturally at a disadvantage. However, now that you know this, you can think more strategically :) In order to do well you will need to be writing (particularly in Paper 1) at the level of an Advanced English student - which is more than achievable with a bit of hard work :) Do practice papers, go beyond the resources you get in class (ie do your own research), work about perfecting your expression and you'll definitely have a shot at cracking 90+ :)
Post by: Rasika on May 20, 2017, 11:47:38 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on May 21, 2017, 11:20:50 am
Hello!
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Post by: EEEEEEP on May 21, 2017, 11:30:36 am
(http://www.edmsauce.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Hello-adele-music-video.jpg)It's me.
Post by: mohanedibrahim1 on May 21, 2017, 03:50:03 pm
Post by: bellerina on June 09, 2017, 07:51:52 pm
Post by: sudodds on June 10, 2017, 12:39:10 am
I am a very practical learner so what advice would you give me when I am studying for the Trials + HSC? (Most of my subjects are in the HSIE department!)As a fellow humanities nerd, who is also a practical learner rather than visual - practice papers and tables (argument tables, detail tables, linking tables)!!
Tables are the shit, cos they are note taking that forces you to still engage critically with the content. Like you are getting all the benefits of notes - easy to read format, simplified content, etc. etc., while still actively engaging, and thinking critically about what you are learning (ie. what you have to do in the exam!), because you are being forced to assess significance - You have to ask your self "why does this piece of detail/event/issue/concept deserve to be in this box?", rather than just writing down facts :)
Hope this helps!
Susie
Post by: mohanedibrahim1 on June 10, 2017, 08:36:09 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 11, 2017, 01:40:59 pm
Hi there, why are short answer questions for the English exam mark so high for?
Hey! I think it keeps us on our toes - It's the one section we can't possibly memorise a response for. So it's a good indicator of 'on the spot' ability ;D
Post by: bellerina on June 12, 2017, 12:36:27 am
Post by: mohanedibrahim1 on June 14, 2017, 07:26:32 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 14, 2017, 08:07:44 pm
Hi there i would love a perfect Legal Studies structure and the way of getting a perfect band 6 meaning at least 99/100 thank you.
Hey! No advice anyone gives you could ever guarantee a 99/100, that is just a huge amount of hard work and that has to come from you! That said, here's a guide with the tips I can offer ;D
And here is another guide on how to structure your arguments in Legal :)
Post by: mohanedibrahim1 on June 14, 2017, 09:58:10 pm
Post by: janemurray on June 21, 2017, 10:29:18 pm
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 21, 2017, 10:49:51 pm
Probably a really stupid question but do we need to memorise our BOSTES number? Obviously we write this number on our HSC papers but are we given the number in the exam room?
Hey! Trust me, you'll memorise it just from writing it so many times over Trials ;D but from memory I got like a card with the number on my desk in the room, maybe? :)
Post by: joyg on June 22, 2017, 01:55:41 am
Hey! Trust me, you'll memorise it just from writing it so many times over Trials ;D but from memory I got like a card with the number on my desk in the room, maybe? :)
You do get a card with your number on it which you have to sign so they know you were/were not there :)
Post by: beau77bro on June 23, 2017, 08:27:29 pm
(i already had a like 2 day bludge and i need to start)
Post by: kiiaaa on June 29, 2017, 05:49:37 pm
So, holidays are starting and I guess this is the best time to get my shit together and also rest so I don't freak out during trials and not waste this extra time like I have for the past 2 holidays.
Now I'm a person who works best when under pressure (in terms of I don't procrastinate when I have a shit load to do. I just finished my last assessment yesterday and here I am asking how to not procrastinate instead of working, lol the irony ;) ). I'm worried I'll waste these holidays lowkey procrastinating in between work and then have a meltdown during trials hence I raise these questions- to get into a routine I'm planning to make a holiday timetable and was wondering for your advice in creating an effective timetable. I was also wondering what should I be doing and focusing my energy toward exactly in this period prior trials? Past Papers? Revision? Working ahead? and how to effectively balance my time between revision and my major PIP work.
I know some of these questions maybe hard to give an answer for but even some strategies you guys might have used for either of the followings will be appreciated heaps!
Thank you so much in advance! :))
Post by: sudodds on June 29, 2017, 11:04:44 pm
Hello, Everyone!heya :)
So, holidays are starting and I guess this is the best time to get my shit together and also rest so I don't freak out during trials and not waste this extra time like I have for the past 2 holidays.
Now I'm a person who works best when under pressure (in terms of I don't procrastinate when I have a shit load to do. I just finished my last assessment yesterday and here I am asking how to not procrastinate instead of working, lol the irony ;) ). I'm worried I'll waste these holidays lowkey procrastinating in between work and then have a meltdown during trials hence I raise these questions- to get into a routine I'm planning to make a holiday timetable and was wondering for your advice in creating an effective timetable. I was also wondering what should I be doing and focusing my energy toward exactly in this period prior trials? Past Papers? Revision? Working ahead? and how to effectively balance my time between revision and my major PIP work.
I know some of these questions maybe hard to give an answer for but even some strategies you guys might have used for either of the followings will be appreciated heaps!
Thank you so much in advance! :))
I don't have much advice in terms of a timetable - I attempted last year but I never ended up sticking to them haha. However, in terms of the lead up to trials I cannot tell you how beneficial doing past papers was for me. Like a shit tonne of past papers. Even better if you can get them checked over by a teacher or marker here :) I found not only getting used the exam format super helpful, but just brushing up on my analysis skills - past papers was the only form of study I did for all of my subjects bar english (which I just worked and reworked my default essays). In terms of balancing major work, I didn't do a PIP, but not only was my IP for Drama due literally a week after trials, but so was my GP :( As the major work actually contributes in a tangible way to your final mark, do not neglect it in order to study for trials. Yeah trials are important in solidifying your rank, but your major actually forms a huge part of your final HSC mark. Chipping off a bit of your major work every day was what worked best for me, rather than just trying to do it all in a few days :) So I treated it like study, making sure I always set time aside for myself :)
Hope this helps! Good luck :D I'm sure you'll smash it either way :)
Susie
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 30, 2017, 12:16:36 am
how does one get back to study post assessments? i feel like i have only done a subject or 2 a week for 4 weeks and im struggling to study at all? what do i do. please atarnotes mighty moderators - your words of wisdom will guide and motivate me. thankyou
(i already had a like 2 day bludge and i need to start)
Sorry this got missed my friend! I think easing yourself into it is the key, and a big part of that is a good study timetable. This guide could be worth a read ;D
Post by: _____ on June 30, 2017, 10:05:25 pm
heya :)
I don't have much advice in terms of a timetable - I attempted last year but I never ended up sticking to them haha. However, in terms of the lead up to trials I cannot tell you how beneficial doing past papers was for me. Like a shit tonne of past papers. Even better if you can get them checked over by a teacher or marker here :) I found not only getting used the exam format super helpful, but just brushing up on my analysis skills - past papers was the only form of study I did for all of my subjects bar english (which I just worked and reworked my default essays). In terms of balancing major work, I didn't do a PIP, but not only was my IP for Drama due literally a week after trials, but so was my GP :( As the major work actually contributes in a tangible way to your final mark, do not neglect it in order to study for trials. Yeah trials are important in solidifying your rank, but your major actually forms a huge part of your final HSC mark. Chipping off a bit of your major work every day was what worked best for me, rather than just trying to do it all in a few days :) So I treated it like study, making sure I always set time aside for myself :)
Hope this helps! Good luck :D I'm sure you'll smash it either way :)
Susie
Hey I have a question about your revision method (I know we all learn differently but I thought I'd ask):
Did you ever rewrite notes to supplement the past papers? My plan is to rewrite my notes while chopping down unnecessary content for a bit and then getting into past papers. I think if I just went straight to papers I wouldn't have any basis for a lot of stuff, in particular topics I haven't looked at since term one. For example, I could do 10 business studies papers and not find a single question about critical path analysis, and then I could get it on the trial exam. Assuming I forgot it, I'd probably lose the mark. So did you at least reread stuff before going into practice papers? I don't think I'd absorb it if I just read my notes again but I wanna know what you did.
Post by: sudodds on June 30, 2017, 10:14:44 pm
Hey I have a question about your revision method (I know we all learn differently but I thought I'd ask):I actually didn't have any of my own notes to begin with (aside from a modern detail table - which was literally just stats/quotes, not content). I learnt early on that for me, writing notes just wasn't worth my time - I didn't learn that way. I found absorbing information much easier when I was actively doing something - eg. answering questions, writing practice essays etc. :) I had notes as in my teachers workbooks and annotated readings, but I only really used those to skim through the day before or to find detail/quotes - I didn't actually learn from them. The way that I learned was from doing past papers open book. So if I came across a question I didn't know how to answer, I'd get up google and research it! I treated doing past papers a bit like assignments. What was great about this as well was that since I was doing my own research I often came across quotes and detail that no one else had, thus making my essays more unique :) I get what your saying about potentially missing content - what I did to make sure that didn't happen was to know what exactly was on the syllabus back to front, and continually check to make sure that i had at least attempted one question on each dot point. If none of the past papers had a question, I'd make one up myself :) I also was very lucky that most of my teachers were willing to read any drafts/practice responses that I did, and we'd both set aside time to go through them together - which further strengthened my responses, and gave me a good indication of weak areas :)
Did you ever rewrite notes to supplement the past papers? My plan is to rewrite my notes while chopping down unnecessary content for a bit and then getting into past papers. I think if I just went straight to papers I wouldn't have any basis for a lot of stuff, in particular topics I haven't looked at since term one. For example, I could do 10 business studies papers and not find a single question about critical path analysis, and then I could get it on the trial exam. Assuming I forgot it, I'd probably lose the mark. So did you at least reread stuff before going into practice papers? I don't think I'd absorb it if I just read my notes again but I wanna know what you did.
Granted this was mainly for the history subjects (though I did use this technique for eco as well :) ), so in the end it is up to you to work out what is best for your learning habits and situation!
Hope this helps,
Susie
Post by: _____ on June 30, 2017, 10:45:50 pm
I actually didn't have any of my own notes to begin with (aside from a modern detail table - which was literally just stats/quotes, not content). I learnt early on that for me, writing notes just wasn't worth my time - I didn't learn that way. I found absorbing information much easier when I was actively doing something - eg. answering questions, writing practice essays etc. :) I had notes as in my teachers workbooks and annotated readings, but I only really used those to skim through the day before or to find detail/quotes - I didn't actually learn from them. The way that I learned was from doing past papers open book. So if I came across a question I didn't know how to answer, I'd get up google and research it! I treated doing past papers a bit like assignments. What was great about this as well was that since I was doing my own research I often came across quotes and detail that no one else had, thus making my essays more unique :) I get what your saying about potentially missing content - what I did to make sure that didn't happen was to know what exactly was on the syllabus back to front, and continually check to make sure that i had at least attempted one question on each dot point. If none of the past papers had a question, I'd make one up myself :) I also was very lucky that most of my teachers were willing to read any drafts/practice responses that I did, and we'd both set aside time to go through them together - which further strengthened my responses, and gave me a good indication of weak areas :)
Granted this was mainly for the history subjects (though I did use this technique for eco as well :) ), so in the end it is up to you to work out what is best for your learning habits and situation!
Hope this helps,
Susie
Thanks for the help. I think I'll try and do both as it's mostly worked so far - if I don't get the time I'll go into past papers.
Post by: olr1999 on July 15, 2017, 10:02:53 am
Post by: jamonwindeyer on July 15, 2017, 02:32:48 pm
In terms of sitting still and concentrating in three hour exams, what is the best way to remain focused or regain focus?
As counterintuitive as it may sound, taking little 30 second breaks where you close your eyes and take a rest can be helpful to keep yourself moving in an exam! It reduces fatigue and hopefully keeps you from becoming completely drained. I used to do this after every essay in a Paper 2 ;D
You should practice 3 hour exams as much as possible before the real thing too, perhaps building up from 1 hour tests, to two hours, to three?? Keeping focus for that long is definitely tough and you can build up that resilience over time! :)
Post by: kiiaaa on August 07, 2017, 07:23:44 pm
so like I'm considering a degree in commerce/accounting and law and contemplating between UTS, Macq, USyd, and UNSW. now since this is a course where experience counts i was wondering if any of you guys could give me advice which has good placements based on knowledge/friends/personal experience. i tried looking into each uni but there is a bias of course there and I struggle to make preference as I really want to attend a uni which can offer good placements for experience etc./ or partnerships ( you get me?) I really want a unbias view which is why I ask as uni's do have bias which doesn't allow for a fair judgment. I've heard from someone that USyd doesn't offer good placements but relies on its name for law but I don't really know how true that it as the person dropped after 2nd year so they might not have had the chance. Just a confused child...
thank you sooo soooo much guys! :)))
Post by: caitlinlddouglas on September 27, 2017, 10:32:43 am
Post by: Daniyahasan on September 27, 2017, 12:06:36 pm
hey i was wondering how many hours of study i should be doiing per day up until and during the exams? Thanks!
i was wondering about this too, cos currently im not doing much
Post by: Opengangs on September 27, 2017, 12:20:38 pm
i was wondering about this too, cos currently im not doing much
hey i was wondering how many hours of study i should be doiing per day up until and during the exams? Thanks!However long you see fit; it depends on your concentration level and how much you can productively get done each day. It's pointless to spend 9 hours studying if you get tired within the first 3 hours.
My recommendation is to do three subjects each day; anything more can seem counter-productive, but again, it all comes down to how long you can stay focused.
Set a timetable, with a goal at the end of each day.
You should also prioritise the subjects your struggling with, but also don't neglect your other subjects. For me, my strongest subjects are Mathematics, Mathematics (Extension 1), and SDD, but my weakest is English so I spend more time perfecting English.
To see what a possible timetable would look like, this is my timetable (and it works well).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y2blhULhVWUpiqs2QL2wNheFbFO0Y41mFyTpEEVs7Ww
Post by: Daniyahasan on September 27, 2017, 12:27:38 pm
However long you see fit; it depends on your concentration level and how much you can productively get done each day. It's pointless to spend 9 hours studying if you get tired within the first 3 hours.
My recommendation is to do three subjects each day; anything more can seem counter-productive, but again, it all comes down to how long you can stay focused.
Set a timetable, with a goal at the end of each day.
You should also prioritise the subjects your struggling with, but also don't neglect your other subjects. For me, my strongest subjects are Mathematics, Mathematics (Extension 1), and SDD, but my weakest is English so I spend more time perfecting English.
To see what a possible timetable would look like, this is my timetable (and it works well).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y2blhULhVWUpiqs2QL2wNheFbFO0Y41mFyTpEEVs7Ww
3 subjects a day sounds good. that was what i was doing, but i thought it was less.
thanks opengangs!
Post by: caitlinlddouglas on September 28, 2017, 10:01:12 pm
3 subjects a day sounds good. that was what i was doing, but i thought it was less.Thanks for that!
thanks opengangs!
Post by: Daniyahasan on September 28, 2017, 10:02:10 pm
Thanks for that!
No worries! so whats your study plan?
Post by: Zainbow on September 29, 2017, 05:36:16 pm
To see what a possible timetable would look like, this is my timetable (and it works well).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y2blhULhVWUpiqs2QL2wNheFbFO0Y41mFyTpEEVs7Ww
That's really good example, thank you
Post by: georgiia on September 30, 2017, 12:59:15 pm
How or where is the best place to sell textbooks + resources e.g. printed stacks of past papers or exam material after my HSC. I'm not looking to rip people off with charging for notes because I'm more than happy to upload them here as I have benefited so much from these forums. However I know that I found having hard copies of stuff helpful and want to know what most people do. I know heaps of ads are on gumtree, but do people really go there? Also are year 11's buying textbooks round about now, or when should I start trying to sell the stuff I no longer need?
Thanks!! :)
Post by: Potatohater on September 30, 2017, 01:20:41 pm
Post by: fantasticbeasts3 on September 30, 2017, 01:24:13 pm
I have a question that I'm not too sure which forum to post in but thought here was suitable.
How or where is the best place to sell textbooks + resources e.g. printed stacks of past papers or exam material after my HSC. I'm not looking to rip people off with charging for notes because I'm more than happy to upload them here as I have benefited so much from these forums. However I know that I found having hard copies of stuff helpful and want to know what most people do. I know heaps of ads are on gumtree, but do people really go there? Also are year 11's buying textbooks round about now, or when should I start trying to sell the stuff I no longer need?
Thanks!! :)
i sold all my year 11 stuff around this time last year to about january on gumtree :-) you can renew your ad at any time as well. other places to sell could be here on AN, or on this facebook group called "selling textbooks" but i don't know the success rate there. hope this helps!
Post by: georgiia on September 30, 2017, 03:05:21 pm
i sold all my year 11 stuff around this time last year to about january on gumtree :-) you can renew your ad at any time as well. other places to sell could be here on AN, or on this facebook group called "selling textbooks" but i don't know the success rate there. hope this helps!
Thanks, I'll try gumtree :)
I menat selling yr12 stuff to current yr 11's because I think the year 10's going into 11 will have a different syllabus anyway :(