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Title: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on December 20, 2010, 05:11:52 pm
Note: I no longer have time to update this thread, so some information may be out of date. The onus is on you to check any information and do your own research!

UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links

Post 1 - Information and tips

This thread (has two main posts) is designed to keep an index of useful information, threads contributed by our users, links and other resources. If you think a link or thread should/shouldn't be added to this list, or if you would like to contribute resources that you hold copyright to, or are legally available for free distribution, please PM a moderator or myself. We do not condone illegal distribution of copyright materials. Note that this is not a thread for discussion regarding prep courses for the UMAT or Interviews.

A special thanks to those who contributed to finding awesome/helpful links (it wasn't just me!), Med Students Online (even enwiabe likes it, below!) for the tips (source), and all the original authors of the AN threads. Any additional questions can be posted here.
Mmm, I've heard really good things about medstudentsonline. Good luck meddies, you're gonna need it! :D

What is the UMAT?
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(http://umat.acer.edu.au/files/umat-logo.png)
The Undergraduate Medicine and Health Sciences Admission Test, more commonly and logically referred to as the UMAT, is developed by the Australian Council for Educational Research (ACER) on behalf of the UMAT Consortium universities. The test is used specifically to assist with the selection of students into the medicine, dentistry and health science degree programs at undergraduate level at the universities listed on this website. The UMAT is available to any candidate whose educational level at the time of sitting the test is their final year of secondary schooling, or higher. Furthermore:
Quote from: ACER
From 2012 UMAT scores can be used for admission to any of the UMAT Consortium universities ONLY in the year following the test. For example, results from UMAT2012 can be used for undergraduate medicine or health science courses beginning in 2013 but NOT 2014. Do not register for UMAT2012 unless you are planning to apply for a course commencing in 2013 AND you meet the eligibility criteria specified in the UMAT2012 Information Booklet. Please note that the change will not affect candidates who sat UMAT2011 under the previous policy. UMAT2011 Scores will still be accepted for courses commencing in 2013.

If you have to sit the exam at an alternate date for whatever reason, here is a personal anecdote describing the situation: Sitting The Alternate Test Date

Random fact: Boys generally outperform girls in the UMAT!

What are UMAT scores and how do they work?
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UMAT scores are used by universities as your UMAT requirement. Essentially, the UMAT has three sections, and each section is given a raw score (note that no-one except ACER knows how these are calculated!). Important to note that a raw score is not a percentage, percentile or an obvious indication of how many you got correct, and it's possible to get over 100 for any section raw score. These three raw scores are then totaled to give a total score which is then divided by three and rounded to the nearest whole number to give an overall score. This is then converted into a percentile score using a similar graph to below:

(http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/attachments/f48/421d1316397772-umat-results-graphs-2007-2008-2009-2010-2011-overallscore2011.png)

For example,
- Section 1 =
- Section 2 =
- Section 3 =
Therefore, total , and and overall to the nearest whole number rounded. Using the graph, 60 corresponds to 91%ile.

N.B. the graph changes slightly every year depending on how the cohort of the year performs on the UMAT, the above graph is for the 2011 cohort. This system is still in place despite the sections being missed into one test (2013 and on-wards).

The results are then given to you online in September in the following form:
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Australian participating universities
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• The University of Adelaide: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, Bachelor of Dental Surgery
• Flinders University: Bachelor of Clinical Sciences, Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, Bachelor of Medical Science, Master of Optometry
• Charles Darwin University: Bachelor of Clinical Sciences
• The University of New South Wales: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, Bachelor of Optometry
• The University of Newcastle/University of New England: Bachelor of Medicine - Joint Medical Program
• University of Western Sydney: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery
• The University of Queensland: Medical Program (provisional entry), Bachelor of Dental Science
• Bond University: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (NOTE: PRIVATE UNIVERSITY)
• Monash University: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, Bachelor of Physiotherapy
• La Trobe University: Bachelor of Health Sciences (Dentistry)/Master of Dentistry, Bachelor of Oral Health Science
• University of Tasmania: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery
• The University of Western Australia: Doctor of Medicine (assured pathway for high academic achievement), Doctor of Dental Medicine
• James Cook University: Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery, Bachelor of Dental Surgery (NOTE: THIS IS THE ONLY UNI ON THIS LIST THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE UMAT)

(Medical courses, Dentistry courses,  Optometry courses, Other courses)

This list may not be fully up to date, always consult the latest UMAT ACER guide for an up to date list.

Entrance requirements
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Summary table below, might be worth saving the image if your screen resolution is too small to display it in its completeness. Note that this table is out-dated and that there are updates quoted below it.
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Structure and content
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UMAT is divided into three sections (although the questions may be MIXED together) designed to measure ability in the following areas:
> Section 1: Logical Reasoning and Problem Solving
> Section 2: Understanding People
> Section 3: Non-verbal Reasoning

UMAT questions do not test academic knowledge and do not require special understanding of any academic discipline.

All questions are in multiple choice format with 4 or 5 response alternatives, from which you are asked to choose the most appropriate. Each question has only one correct response.

Questions in Sections 1 and 2 are in written form (though some Section 1 questions may present information in visual or tabular format). Section 3 questions are based entirely on visual material.

SECTION 1 - Logical reasoning and problem solving  (48 questions)
Materials in this section are drawn from a wide variety of general sources and are based on a brief text or piece of information presented graphically. Questions assess your ability to comprehend, draw logical conclusions, reach solutions by identifying relevant facts, evaluate information, pinpoint additional or missing information, and generate and test plausible hypotheses.

SECTION 2 - Understanding people  (44 questions)
This section assesses the ability to understand and think about people. Questions are based on a scenario, dialogue or other text representing specific interpersonal situations. Most passages will have several questions. Questions assess your ability to identify, understand, and, where necessary, infer the thoughts, feelings, behaviour and/or intentions of the people represented in the situations (a list of helpful words are posted in this thread).

SECTION 3 - Non-verbal reasoning  (42 questions)
Questions in this section may be of several kinds. All are based on patterns or sequences of shapes and are designed to assess your ability to reason in the abstract and solve problems in non-verbal contexts.

UMAT consists of 3 hours of test time. All three sections are presented in one test book and there are no rest breaks between sections. You can do the sections in parts and/or in any order you like (this differs from years prior to 2013).



Tips and strategies for Section 1 (thanks to MSO)
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COMPREHENSION QUESTIONS
These generally give you one page of text (often jargon filled), with a few questions relating to the article. The questions will often ask you for the scope of the passage, or to identify the argument/intention of someone in a given paragraph. Tactics include:
• Skim through the questions first, and underline what each one is looking for
• Speed read through the article, keeping an eye out for whatever the questions want. Think about what the author is trying to achieve. Speed reading is not a difficult skill to pick up and will serve you well in medicine. While it isn’t a prerequisite for doing well, this ability is very useful.
• Go through each option quickly but logically, crossing out the ones that are incorrect, and then choosing the most correct answer.
• Don’t make assumptions
• Only use what the information has given you. If the article says that “smoking is good for your health” then don’t assume otherwise unless evidence is provided in the article.
• Don’t let the jargon hinder your comprehension
• Answer the Question
• Use diagrams/arrows/whatever else helps

ANALYSING PARAGRAPHS
These usually have one or two paragraphs filled with facts, and often ask you for the scope of the paragraph, or to synthesise the info to come to a conclusion. Do the same thing as you would for huge passages.

GRAPHS AND TABLES
These make you analyse the data in graphs and tables. Tactics include:
• Skim through the data and try to work out it's organised. Note the group being analysed (whole population, only men…etc), and how the data is presented (percentages, in thousands…etc)
• Read through the questions/options, and eliminate them one by one.
• These questions usually don’t require huge manipulations of numbers, so try a different strategy if you find yourself doing this.
• There are plenty of tricks: learn the typical ones and recognize them in the exam! Tricks include:
     • Changing the axis/scales for graphs
     • Using non-linear scales (e.g. a straight line on a log scale does not imply a direct relationship)
     • Using wrong times/dates
     • Confusing you with what the data is for
     • Confusing you with percentages and absolute values
     • Placing two graphs together, with a different scale (e.g. temperature and humidity may be on the same graph)
• Don’t make any assumptions or generalisations

NUMERACY QUESTIONS
These give you a lot of numbers/facts, and often ask you to choose the correct statement about these. For example, a question might say that there are 15000 people who know of mso, of which 45% are members and 40% of these are male. 5% of males are moderators, whilst 4% of females are moderators. Are there more male or female moderators? Remember that you are not allowed to use a calculator. Tactics include:
• Don't spend too much time on calculation, and estimate/round numbers instead
• Write them down if you can’t do them in your head.
• Practice simple calculations without a calculator
• Use elimination method and cross off the ones which aren’t correct.
• Beware of tricks (E.g. 50% of males is not 25% of the population)

LOGIC GAMES
These are games that often require a lot of logic to solve, and are often quite time-consuming. They include:
• If questions. Questions with ‘if X, then Y’ scenarios, to work out the correct person. E.g. if Mana is lying, then Matt is telling the truth. Mana always lies on Mondays…etc, then who is lying on Friday?
     • Have specific cases for each option, and if this contradicts the data, then it is wrong.
     • Beware of tricks (e.g. just because Mana is telling the truth doesn’t mean that Matt is lying).
• Matching information. These will give you a small amount of info of different people, and ask about a particular person based on their relationships with the others. E.g. Girls A,B,C is dating boys X,Y,Z, who's heights are short, medium, tall, non-respectively. If A only dates medium boys, and Y is taller than X, how tall is C's boyfriend? Tactics include:
     • Locate the groups (girls, boys, height) and draw a table accordingly.
     • Fill in all the data they give you, and extrapolate this (e.g. Y must be medium or tall)
     • To save time, remember your goal and only fill in the info which lets you achieve this.
• Puzzles with rules. These will give you a few rules, and ask you which case is correct/incorrect. E.g. As can only marry Bs. Bs can only marry with groups higher than them…etc. Which is correct? (options have different people marrying others). Tactics include:
     • Understand the rules and what they mean
     • Go through each option and try to eliminate/contradict them

Tips and strategies for Section 2 (thanks to MSO)
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QUESTION TYPES
• How does she feel questions. These usually involve a passage with a question asking how a particular person would feel in that situation, or at a particular time during the passage.
• What is the tone of the passage. These usually just ask you what the tone/mood is in the paragraph.
• What does this mean questions. These usually just ask you what someone meant by a certain action/comment.
• What is their relationship questions. These usually ask the type of relationship that 2 people have (close, brotherly, strained, distant…etc

TACTICS
• CLEAR YOUR HEAD AND COOL DOWN! This section does actually require empathetic reading of the paragraphs more like you were reading a novel
• Identify indications of how someone is feeling through descriptions of their actions (smiling, jumping, laughing are happy, whilst yelling, throwing, furrowed brows are not).
• Put your friend in their shoes. Placing yourself in their shoes may work, however similar experiences may make you assume things, and you may spend too much time trying to sort out your own emotions.
• Cross out incorrect answers and consider the rest carefully. This may require you to read a section of the text multiple times.
• When deciding which answer is better, determine the difference between these two, and whether that difference makes it a stronger answer or not. If you have time, re-read the paragraph to get a feeling of the tone used, leading to the correct answer.
• Don’t: assume, generalize, cross off answers because they’re too obvious or seem incorrect.

Tips and strategies for Section 3 (thanks to MSO)
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In general, tactics to approach this section include:
• Go with a messy approach to working out sequences. If a few clues point to a certain answer, do not continue checking everything until you are sure. Choose it and move on - it is hard to finish this section in time.
• It may also be helpful to rotate/move your pencil (make the rubber end the shape) in order to visualize the movement/pattern, as moving them in your head may cause mistakes if you get distracted.

Tactics for each question type include:

WHAT COMES NEXT
These questions give you 3 or 4 boxes, and ask you to find a pattern in order to identify the next box in the sequence. Tactics include:
• Analyse specific components separately, rather than all the components at once. This is because, for example, the pattern for how the dot moves may be different to the square’s movement.
• Identify any components which vary a lot in the options, and try to find the pattern for these. You don’t want to spend time working out the pattern for a dot, only to realize that you ended up eliminating one option.
• There are A LOT of patterns which involve a shape moving one step at a time (or in increasing steps) in a certain direction. It is therefore beneficial to assume that a component is moving in this pattern.

PICK THE MIDDLE
These questions give you a completed pattern, however they mix up the questions. They ask you to arrange it in order, and then pick the middle one. Note that these questions often don't have a question attached, 5 answer options (A,B,C,D,E). These are usually the most difficult type, and also the most asked. Tactics include:
• Find any repeating options and eliminate them. E.g. if 2 boxes are exactly the same, they will probably go on either end so use them to start off with the pattern. If there are 2 pairs, then the remaining box is usually the middle.
• Don’t bother finding the sequence. If you have a hunch that one is the middle, don’t find the order for the rest
• These patterns often also involve rotating/moving a component in a certain direction. Therefore, choose a component and test out the pattern by following it through in each box until you get stuck. Then work backwards to find the middle. Remember that if it seems like the shape will move 5 steps (E.g. will move around a pentagon), then this is often useless as it will go around in circles.
• Also try mapping the movement. This involves drawing on one base where each component is in all the options, and then trying to find a pattern based on this.

FILL IN THE MISSING BOX
This is usually in a 3-by-3 grid format, and require you to find a pattern in order to find the missing box. To identify this pattern:
• Try rotating the components in each row, to get the next box.
• Look at each row/column, and superimpose the 2 shapes from the 1st and 2nd square in order to achieve the third
• Try adding or subtracting certain components to others (e.g. if there are vertical lines in the first 2 boxes, and they disappear in the last one, there might be a ‘subtraction rule’ with 1st box – 2nd box = 3rd box)
• If they ask you to complete the picture, notice the components and their colours, as well as their position relative to others (above, below…etc). It may be helpful to sketch the shape in the square, and choose the most similar one.


Again, thanks to Med Students Online for a lot of these tips!

Scroll down for the second part of this resources thread that includes a range of web-links :)
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on December 20, 2010, 06:40:18 pm
Note: I no longer have time to update this thread, so some information may be out of date. The onus is on you to check any information and do your own research!

UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links (cont.)

Post 2 - Links to resources and information

UMAT External Links to Information and Tips
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• http://umat.acer.edu.au/ (General official information about the UMAT, your first port of call)
• http://umat.acer.edu.au/files/UMAT_info_book_14.pdf (current ACER UMAT handbook - 2014)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com/   (a blog dedicated to the UMAT)
• http://eslus.com/LESSONS/READING/READ.HTM   (help with speed reading)
• http://aptitute.co.nz/site/   (UMAT advice, among other things)
• http://vcetuition.com.au/umat/umat_myths/   (UMAT advice and clarifications)
• http://medicineumat.wordpress.com/ (glob with a medical entrance focus)
• http://vcetuition.com.au/high-school/7-ways-to-excel-in-your-umat/ (7 UMAT tips)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f48/muse%92s-guide-umat-preparation-24713/ (UMAT preparation guide)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f48/frootloops-guide-umat-27155/ (UMAT preparation guide)
• http://vcetuition.com.au/umat/umat_myths/ (UMAT myths cleared)
• https://www.msu.edu/~defores1/gre/vocab/gre_vocab.htm (good Section 2 words)
• http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000806807/polls_emotions_img01_1114_870057_poll_xlarge.jpeg (emotive word diagram)
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L6DV-zOxXUA#! (Youtube - warning to students regarding UMAT prep courses + UAT tips)
• http://www.medentry.edu.au/files/UMAT%20Basics.pdf (UMAT info)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f48/s3-pick-middle-strategy-27461/ (platonically yours' section 3 tips)
• http://www.wikihow.com/Remain-Confident-During-UMAT-Preparation (tips to stay in the zone)
• http://umatease.wordpress.com/ (UMAT blog by AN user gibsonaxxxs)

UMAT External Links to Practice Questions
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• http://nonverbalreasoning.net/questions.html   (non-verbal reasoning questions)
• http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/umat-quiz/   (free UMAT quizzes on each part)
• http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/free-quiz/   (more free UMAT quizzes)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?11126-UMAT-questions-Section-1   (may need to sign-up or login, but well worth it!)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?11258-UMAT-Questions-Section-2   (may need to sign-up or login, but well worth it!)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?11259-UMAT-questions-Section-3   (may need to sign-up or login, but well worth it!)
• http://www.medstart.com.au/free-sample-questions.php   (register for a free sample paper)
• http://www.medstart.com.au/MedStart-UMAT-Sample-and-Practice-Questions.pdf   (sample questions)
• http://www.mensa.org/workout   (good non-verbal reasoning questions)
• http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf   (good non-verbal reasoning questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/umat-section-1-logic-games-test-run.html (section 1 questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/umat-section-1-logic-games-test-run_13.html (section 1 questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/umat-section-2-test-run-2.html (section 2 questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/section-2-questions-prioritise.html (section 2 questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/03/section-2-communication-questions.html (section 2 questions)
• http://umatsuccess.blogspot.com.au/2010/03/section-2-honesty-conflict.html (section 2 questions)
• http://blog.medentry.edu.au/tag/umat-free-sample-questions (sample questions)
• http://www.medentry.edu.au/files/MedEntry-UMAT-Sample-Questions.pdf (sample questions)
• http://nie.edu.au/umatSampleQs.html (NIE prac questions)
• http://www.psychometric-success.com/practice-papers/Psychometric%20Success%20Abstract%20Reasoning%20-%20Practice%20Test%201.pdf (Section 3 practice and techniques)
• http://dynamo.dictionary.com/76239/umat-section-2?rf=y# (mini Section 2 word quiz)
• http://brainden.com/weighing-puzzles.htm (tricky Section 1 type questions with answers)
• https://www.facebook.com/logic.challenges (who said facebook can't help studying!?!?!)
• http://www.logicchallenges.com/ (as the name suggests)
• http://lsac.org/jd/pdfs/SamplePTJune.pdf (this is a past LSAT paper [used for Law entrance] and its section 1 is relevant to the UMAT)
• http://unitest.acer.edu.au/files/uniTEST-Sample-Questions.pdf (sample questions from uniTEST [another ACER test], some similarities to Section 1)


ATAR Notes Links and Resources for the UMAT



ATAR Notes Section Zero UMAT Preparation



Interview offer information



Helpful links for the undergraduate Monash Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS(Hons))
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Quote from: http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/melbourne-arts-is-tops-as-more-students-seek-uni-entry-20121216-2bhm3.html
Medicine and surgery at Monash received the second-largest number of first preferences, with 2448 applicants, but the university typically only takes about 240 students.

• Monash Course Guide page for the MBBS
• Monash MBBS admission reuqirements
• [Article - The AGE] Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery at Monash University - Julia Proctor
• Monash MBBS Open Day video (2010) - has lots of good statistics and MMI information
• Official 2013 PDF Brochure for Monash MBBS
• Info on the MBBS (ERC) Stream
• http://www.monash.edu.au/assets/ppt/workshop-medicine.ppt
• Official email for technical questions: [email protected]
Quote from: Monash, paraphrased by pi
Quick info regarding interviews:
Selection for interview will be based on a combination of UMAT and ATAR. Please note: All interviews for 2014 entry will be held in January 2014. A minimum book score of 50 in each UMAT book is required to be considered for selection.

Hence any stats relating to 2013 entry or previous are no longer relevant.


pi's amazing review of the course (so far)


Multiple Mini Interview (MMI) Links (especially Monash)
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"You never get a second chance to make a first impression"
~Will Rogers
First ports of call:
• http://pagingdr.net/forum/index.php?topic=4185.0 (a lot of past Monash MMI scenarios)
• http://pagingdr.net/forum/index.php?topic=4149.0;all (a lot of past UoM MMI scenarios)
• http://pagingdr.net/forum/index.php?topic=4132.0;all (a lot of past USyd MMI scenarios)
• http://pagingdr.net/forum/index.php?topic=191.30 (MMI discussion)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f40/interview-question-time-4714/ (some really great discussion on answers to MMI questions #1)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f40/interview-question-time-2-a-12443/ (some really great discussion on answers to MMI questions #2)
• http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f40/interview-question-time-3-a-26379/ (some really great discussion on answers to MMI questions #3)
• ATARNotes discussion thread: MMI Info [Monash 2011]

If you've exhausted all of the above: (note that some of these are of a different style to Monash)
• http://zeroratio.blogspot.com.au/ (scenarios and tips)
• http://www.medicine.usask.ca/pt/admission/Practice_MMI_QuestionsUofS.pdf (scenarios)
• http://www.ucalgary.ca/mdprogram/files/mdprogram/2008_09%20MMI%20Cases.pdf (scenarios)
• http://ww.scu.edu/ethics/publications/submitted/cirone/medical-ethics.html (ethical questions)
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOVbDD9lNjE&feature=related (different style to Monash)
• http://www.medical-interviews.co.uk/Multi-Mini-Interviews-MMI-St-Georges.aspx (different style to Monash)
• http://blog.medentry.edu.au/umat/sample-multiple-mini-interview-mmi-question
• http://blog.medentry.edu.au/umat/multiple-mini-interviews
• http://www.umanitoba.ca/medrehab/media/pt_mmi_presentation.pdf (read only the practice questions, some are relevant, format of the MMI is different completely)
• http://medicine.arizona.edu/sites/medicine.arizona.edu/files/pdf/Multiple%20Mini%20Interview%20FAQ.pdf (has an MMI scenario)
• http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/10/01/let%E2%80%99s-all-play-doctor/2/ (has links to more pages)
• http://tigernet.princeton.edu/~cl1933/1990/ethical-problems-in-medicine.pdf (ethical issues and scenarios in medicine)
• For a doc on detech examples (sometimes used in pre-MMI Monash interviews), see the attachment of this post (source)
•  http://studentdoctor.net/2011/01/the-multiple-mini-interview-for-medical-school-admissions/
•  http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f95/2012-csu-bachelor-dental-science-mmi-contents-27550/ (CSU dent MMI questions)

Note: the Monash Faculty of Medicine, Nursing and Health Sciences prohibits interviewees to disclose questions and scenarios. So please keep that in mind when asking for help on these boards.



After receiving an offer



Miscellaneous links


"Just for fun" links


Good luck to all in 2014 and beyond and I hope you found this thread useful!  :) ~ pi
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: adelaide.emily10 on December 20, 2010, 07:00:47 pm
thanks so much! especially love the med-entry controversy stuff lol, it is really annoying how we have to pay so much money to gain access to umat papers and then there is the $200 registration fee -> $_$
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: adelaide.emily10 on December 20, 2010, 08:49:47 pm
just noticed on the prepgenie website that pi put up, you can do umat quizzes for each section to see where you at :)
thanks again

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Andiio on December 20, 2010, 08:54:32 pm
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 20, 2010, 09:10:38 pm
whoa another very useful thread pi!!! except a few of the links are broken i think...

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: pi on December 21, 2010, 01:11:37 pm
whoa another very useful thread pi!!! except a few of the links are broken i think...

which ones? post them here/Pm me and I'll fix them up :)

just noticed on the prepgenie website that pi put up, you can do umat quizzes for each section to see where you at :)

Added the direct link to main post. Thanks!



EDIT: Thanks to whoever stickied this!

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: adelaide.emily10 on December 21, 2010, 04:34:03 pm
whoa another very useful thread pi!!! except a few of the links are broken i think...

which ones? post them here/Pm me and I'll fix them up :)
http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,15195.msg163194.html#msg163194
this is one, i think the rest work for me

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: pi on December 21, 2010, 06:46:32 pm
whoa another very useful thread pi!!! except a few of the links are broken i think...

which ones? post them here/Pm me and I'll fix them up :)
http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,15195.msg163194.html#msg163194
this is one, i think the rest work for me

that one works for me

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: werdna on December 21, 2010, 08:57:08 pm
^ Works for me too.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 21, 2010, 09:02:28 pm
http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/umat-quiz/
http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/new-umat-free-full-length-paper/

those two links are working for me, the page wont even load. :/
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: pi on December 21, 2010, 09:48:29 pm
http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/umat-quiz/
http://prepgenie.com.au/umat/new-umat-free-full-length-paper/

those two links are working for me, the page wont even load. :/

Works fine here, try a different browser maybe?
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 21, 2010, 09:49:06 pm
Hmm yeah ill try mozilla in a min.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: eeps on December 21, 2010, 09:50:10 pm
The links work for me on both IE and Safari.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 21, 2010, 09:51:49 pm
hmm  not working on firefox either... it says the server cannot be found :/ probs something wrong with my comp lol or net
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: werdna on December 21, 2010, 10:19:24 pm
The links are working for me... I'm using Mac and tried it on both Mozilla and Safari.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 21, 2010, 10:27:00 pm
could it be something with the internet service?
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Andiio on December 21, 2010, 10:34:01 pm
Not working for me either, I'm on Optus on a Mac; tried Chrome + Safari to no avail
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 21, 2010, 11:39:25 pm
Still not working for me. Very strange. Doesnt work on either IE or Firefox
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Andiio on December 23, 2010, 09:37:49 pm
Still not working for me. Very strange. Doesnt work on either IE or Firefox

Doesn't work for me either.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: s2penguin on December 23, 2010, 10:27:49 pm
i am joining the thread!
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on December 23, 2010, 10:30:44 pm
^^ welcome and good luck :)
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: mystikal on January 05, 2011, 03:33:07 pm
http://aptitute.co.nz/site/

i just remembered this site, i used it and it helpped quite abit uhhh it has specific UMAT advice and other links to other resources. enjoy xD
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: pi on January 05, 2011, 06:28:46 pm
^added, but had to remove other things (intro) as I exceeded the 20000 character limit :o
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: nacho on January 06, 2011, 04:11:24 pm
^added, but had to remove other things (intro) as I exceeded the 20000 character limit :o
you get can me and aznboy50 to edit our posts to continue on yours

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: burbs on January 24, 2011, 06:05:16 pm
My interest in medicine is not high, but I was planning (read: parents have decided) to do it just to keep options open.

However, I don't really want to spend any time before my midyears studying for the UMAT, as my ATAR is more important to me.

Basically does anyone have some tips on how to use those 2 months before the UMAT to prepare and if there are lectures that are WORTH going to before then?

If it helps I'm apparently naturally good at these kinds of tests.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: adelaide.emily10 on January 24, 2011, 06:07:08 pm
pi i found this

http://www.eureka-umat.edu.au/freetrial.html

there are some good sect 3 sample questions

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Greatness on January 24, 2011, 06:14:24 pm
My interest in medicine is not high, but I was planning (read: parents have decided) to do it just to keep options open.

However, I don't really want to spend any time before my midyears studying for the UMAT, as my ATAR is more important to me.

Basically does anyone have some tips on how to use those 2 months before the UMAT to prepare and if there are lectures that are WORTH going to before then?

If it helps I'm apparently naturally good at these kinds of tests.
If you're naturally good at these tests then i dont think yuo would need to do too much practise. But i would do a few of the tests that you can find online and see how you go. If you need to work ona particular area then work on that section by using the resources on VN.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: eeps on January 24, 2011, 09:26:19 pm
I don't know where my post went, but anyhow I'll post it again. If the UMAT isn't your highest priority, then do what swarley said; find online tests to do or just use the resources on VN. I believe MedEntry runs a lecture a few weeks prior to the UMAT exam; but I can't say whether it is worth it or not. They're really the only notable UMAT preparation program that I know of; there are probably plenty more out there. I'm doing the UMAT for the same reasons as you Burberry; to keep my options open. Medicine isn't my desired course either; I don't have a specific course that I want to do in university just as of yet. Inevitably, you will find other UMAT-based resources on the internet just by searching. That's always good to use.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: mystikal on February 13, 2011, 11:39:11 pm
http://medicineumat.wordpress.com/

another one... its more of statistics and abit of advice... and other students there too
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: pi on February 26, 2011, 10:09:41 pm
I've added all the links! Thanks!

EDIT: I am running out of room on the first post. Admins: is it possible for one of you to add a post after the first one I made, so I can add to it? Thanks
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Graphite on March 21, 2011, 09:33:15 pm
Ahh I noticed the links to old UMAT threads on this website don't work anymore?
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: shinny on March 21, 2011, 09:56:39 pm
I've added all the links! Thanks!

EDIT: I am running out of room on the first post. Admins: is it possible for one of you to add a post after the first one I made, so I can add to it? Thanks

Don't think we can do that =S What I did instead was delete aznboy50's post (he's banned anyway so meh) which was after your first one so now you can edit your second post.

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Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: alicja13 on April 05, 2011, 11:03:45 am
A couple of more free sample resources for UMAT questions:

http://blog.medentry.edu.au/tag/umat-free-sample-questions
http://www.medentry.edu.au/downloads.asp

Only a few questions there but they're free.
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: hisgirlfriday on July 20, 2011, 09:54:54 pm
Thankyou!!!
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: Jdog on August 31, 2011, 09:38:24 pm
do you guys know when we get our results, i heard sometime in september, but is it usually middle late , early?


Im SHITING my pants
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: TheMentalist on April 04, 2012, 08:31:48 am
I just want to ask: so they added more questions but the style of exam questions is still the same, right?
Title: Re: UMAT Resources, Info and Links
Post by: kensan on May 20, 2012, 11:53:07 am
Found this one, seems alright;
http://www.freeumat.com/

also found this one, not specifically for the UMAT, helps with S3 though
http://www.psychometric-success.com/practice-papers/Psychometric%20Success%20Abstract%20Reasoning%20-%20Practice%20Test%201.pdf
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on March 30, 2013, 05:25:50 pm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23228084 or maybe http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/0142159X.2012.746451

Interesting read.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Russ on March 30, 2013, 05:49:59 pm
I'm not particularly impressed with their methodology because they have a poor understanding of their response rate as well as what "coaching" entails. They also had a reasonably high dropout rate of ~10%, so idk about their recommendations for universities to start using S3 as a hurdle.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: infinite on May 07, 2013, 10:13:02 am
Hey thanks for this thread! Found it quite helpful ;D

To give back, I found this trial exam that follows the new structure: http://www.medentry.edu.au/MedEntry-UMAT-Practice-Exam-Questions-with-Worked-Solutions.pdf
I saw you had some links from them so I guess they're somewhat reputable.
Cheers once again.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: thushan on May 07, 2013, 03:27:03 pm
Guys, check Monash website.

Monash no longer uses the UMAT alone to determine interviews; interviews are going to be held in January, using a combination of ATAR and UMAT.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: zvezda on May 09, 2013, 05:18:00 pm
Guys, check Monash website.

Monash no longer uses the UMAT alone to determine interviews; interviews are going to be held in January, using a combination of ATAR and UMAT.

Would there be a specific link?
Cheers
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Professor Polonsky on May 09, 2013, 05:58:14 pm
Linky
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: zvezda on May 09, 2013, 09:52:54 pm
Was it not always like that though?
I thought there were two rounds of interview offers, one based on umat and the other on both umat and atar
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Micheal Jackson on July 15, 2014, 11:21:12 am
Thank you so much for this!! :):)

Also, do you know where to find the answers to the UMAT sample test by prepgenie?
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: kpoplover on September 10, 2014, 09:17:03 pm
Great guide :) if one was to start preparing for UMAT, how would you recommend they start their preparation? What should be one of the first things to study?  Thanks.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on September 19, 2016, 07:08:34 pm
An interesting study for those whose UMATs didn't go their way this year. You can improve next year! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24618021
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Maz on September 19, 2016, 08:24:59 pm
An interesting study for those whose UMATs didn't go their way this year. You can improve next year! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24618021
Between 2000 and 2012, 158,909 UMAT assessments were completed
That figure is a lot smaller than I thought it would be...
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on September 19, 2016, 08:46:09 pm
Between 2000 and 2012, 158,909 UMAT assessments were completed
That figure is a lot smaller than I thought it would be...

Probably accurate. I'd say in the year 2000, only about half the number sat the exam. Gets more competitive every year unfortunately!
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Monkeymafia on December 17, 2016, 07:12:40 pm
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Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: kb123 on January 19, 2017, 11:54:50 am
Thanks so much! This post is amazing and has helped me so much!!!
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: m@ttyf on January 21, 2017, 02:12:45 pm
I want to do ugrad medicine and found these videos really helpful for the umat. They are a good outline before you start studying for it and really make sense (I knew nothing much about the test before), thought I'd share!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEIHmsGf5M&feature=em-upload_owner
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: pi on January 21, 2017, 04:15:25 pm
I want to do ugrad medicine and found these videos really helpful for the umat. They are a good outline before you start studying for it and really make sense (I knew nothing much about the test before), thought I'd share!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEIHmsGf5M&feature=em-upload_owner

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Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: geminii on January 24, 2017, 04:27:20 pm
Hey everyone!

I'll be sitting the UMAT this year, and I have a few questions about it -

1. I read on a website that the UMAT is out of 134 - is this true? Or has the number of questions changed?
2. What score out of the total score is enough to get into Monash Med?
3. What is the percentile cutoff for Monash Med, and what score out of the total score does this correlate to?

Thanks guys!! :)
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Quantum44 on January 24, 2017, 04:55:04 pm
 The percentile cutoff for Monash med is based entirely on your atar. I heard someone got in with an ATAR of 99.85 and a UMAT of 76th and another person got in with an ATAR of 96 and a UMAT of 99th.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: geminii on January 24, 2017, 05:35:52 pm
The percentile cutoff for Monash med is based entirely on your atar. I heard someone got in with an ATAR of 99.85 and a UMAT of 76th and another person got in with an ATAR of 96 and a UMAT of 99th.

Thanks! Are you aware of how many questions are in the UMAT? Is it correct that it's 134? And what score out of 134 would correlate with a percentile score that'll give you a high chance of getting into Med?
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: Quantum44 on January 24, 2017, 05:53:59 pm
I'm no expert at the UMAT as I'm doing it this year as well haha, but there are definitely 134 questions. They scale each section to 100 so the total score is out of 300. You'd be aiming for 85th percentile or higher to have a shot at med. I'd say around 185/300 would give you around this percentile but it's hard to say.
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: geminii on January 24, 2017, 06:27:49 pm
I'm no expert at the UMAT as I'm doing it this year as well haha, but there are definitely 134 questions. They scale each section to 100 so the total score is out of 300. You'd be aiming for 85th percentile or higher to have a shot at med. I'd say around 185/300 would give you around this percentile but it's hard to say.

Cool thanks heaps! :) :)
Title: Re: UMAT and Undergrad Entrance Resources, Information and Links
Post by: mtse on January 24, 2017, 07:18:01 pm
Hey everyone!

I'll be sitting the UMAT this year, and I have a few questions about it -

1. I read on a website that the UMAT is out of 134 - is this true? Or has the number of questions changed?
2. What score out of the total score is enough to get into Monash Med?
3. What is the percentile cutoff for Monash Med, and what score out of the total score does this correlate to?

Thanks guys!! :)
1. yes its still 134 questions however not every question is weighted equally. You are also not told which questions are worth more or less marks.
2. To secure an interview, I generally tell students to aim for 90th+ percentile. Naturally this can be lower if your ATAR is higher however it is best to aim for 97+ ATAR and 90+ UMAT
3. there is not cutoff for Monash Med - they just choose the highest ranking (500-600) students out of 1500+ applicants for the interview, then choose the top 242 students from the interviews to give a spot in the course.
The score to percentile conversion changes every year depending on the people taking the exam. So an extreme example: if everyone gets 1/134 questions, and you get 2/134 then you will get 100th percentile. But generally getting around 70% (90ish/134 = 205ish/300) will get you a 100th percentile, whereas 50% is about a 50th percentile. (as you can see it is not a linear conversion but rather a bell curve)
I personally got 198/300 = 98th percentile, had I got 1 or 2 more questions correct I would have got a 100th percentile. Generally less than 2 questions separate 98 to 99 to 100.

I promise you all of this info is reliable
I know the scores of over 200 medical students. I was involved with the monash med interviews this year and I am also one of the people responsible for looking after the new medical students starting this year. And I also work in UMAT/Interview training.