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Title: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on November 30, 2018, 01:38:35 pm
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This thread will open once the Q & A begins.

AFTER YEAR 12 Q & A
Time: 14th December+
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Hey everyone!

In this Q & A thread, we’ll be answering those questions about what comes next after Year 12.

With ATARs (and a lot of emotions) released, we’ll aim to answer your questions about university, tertiary education, VTAC/ UAC/ other state equivalents and careers-related questions. From “I’m unsure what I want to study anymore and want to take a gap year. How do I do that?” to “Can I still get into [insert course] at [insert institution]?”, we’ll take them all! You don’t even have to be a Year 12 Class of 2018 student to join! If you're in Year 11 or younger and have any questions regarding what happens after Year 12 or simply what life is like after high school ends, feel free to ask your questions when this Q & A begins.
 
If you don’t have one already, register for an account and log in to join in on December 14th.

See you then! Thread is now open! ;D
This thread will be unlocked around December 14 12:01am and will be closing again at around December 16 11:59pm.
Between these 3 days, please feel free to ask any questions about what happens after Year 12.
We'll be happy to answer questions and provide advice!

Some helpful resources:
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 12:30:16 am
I declare thee open.
Please feel free to place your questions below. :)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: waldo on December 14, 2018, 08:51:32 am
can i still apply for a course if i got one mark below the prerequisite?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 08:57:08 am
can i still apply for a course if i got one mark below the prerequisite?
Hey Waldo! I’ve seen this happen before and it breaks my heart to tell you that sadly, no, you won’t be able to. The fortunate thing is bridging courses and trying similar courses with lower prereqs then transferring into your desired course are totally an option here!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: userrrname on December 14, 2018, 09:03:47 am
Hey Waldo! I’ve seen this happen before and it breaks my heart to tell you that sadly, no, you won’t be able to. The fortunate thing is bridging courses and trying similar courses with lower prereqs then transferring into your desired course are totally an option here!
Is this for all circumstances? Because my friend got a 23 in methods last year, which was a prerequisite for a bachelor of science at Melbourne Uni however she still got an offer...
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 09:26:57 am
Is this for all circumstances? Because my friend got a 23 in methods last year, which was a prerequisite for a bachelor of science at Melbourne Uni however she still got an offer...
That’s really unusual and a really rare circumstance. I’ve actually never seen your friend’s case ever happen...
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: userrrname on December 14, 2018, 09:57:23 am
That’s really unusual and a really rare circumstance. I’ve actually never seen your friend’s case ever happen...
What would I gain out of just making this up... I’m just trying to understand just how set in stone prerequisites are. She went to a disadvantaged school and had the Access Melbourne thing as well if that’s any help. I think people should still keep their preferences regardless if they satisfy the prereqs or not and just wait and see.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Maya24 on December 14, 2018, 10:29:15 am
If my atar was below the required atar yet it was higher than the lowest atar accepted, do I still have a chance of getting into my course?

Thanks
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 14, 2018, 10:33:18 am
If my atar was below the required atar yet it was higher than the lowest atar accepted, do I still have a chance of getting into my course?

Thanks

even if it's below the clearly-in (the "required" ATAR) you still have a chance, especially if you have bonus points and/or SEAS

Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: IFailedYr12 on December 14, 2018, 10:35:25 am
Hi,

I got a 73.85 ATAR.

I also received an email from Monash  of being eligible for their Monash Guarantee.

Since the courses I'm looking at have a guarantee of 75, should I wait for round 1?

Cheers.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 10:38:22 am
Hi,

I got a 73.85 ATAR.

I also received an email from Monash  of being eligible for their Monash Guarantee.

Since the courses I'm looking at have a guarantee of 75, should I wait for round 1?

Cheers.
It's still possible that you'll get in through round 1, you just aren't eligible for a guaranteed offer. If that's the course you really want to do then you should still leave it as your first preference, however you should consider also having courses in your preference list that have a lower entry requirement in case you miss out. So yeah, just do your preferences as per normal - it just means that you aren't guaranteed an offer as you would be if you had gotten 75.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 14, 2018, 10:44:16 am
Hi,

I got a 73.85 ATAR.

I also received an email from Monash  of being eligible for their Monash Guarantee.

Since the courses I'm looking at have a guarantee of 75, should I wait for round 1?

Cheers.

For the guarantee your ATAR before SEAS adjustments is used, so unfortunately you won't be able to get in using the guarantee (as PF said). However, your SEAS adjusted ATAR may be enough to meet the clearly in. You can use this to estimate your SEAS adjusted ATAR for Monash.

I recommend leaving your courses in order of preference in case SEAS gives you enough adjustment to get in on round one.
If you haven't already, you may also wish to add a course with a clearly-in below 73 to your preference list


Good luck, and I hope this helps

(also: re your username. Getting an ATAR means you didn't fail VCE.)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: IFailedYr12 on December 14, 2018, 10:58:19 am
 I put in 3 or 2 categories of SEAS

Will it be anough?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 11:01:21 am
For LaurenRoth18
Hi AngelWings! Thank you for making this Q&A thread.
No worries.
Just wondering, if I have a graduate degree package for Melbourne Uni in my course application, and I have fulfilled all prereqs and have gotten above the minimum atar, does that mean I am guaranteed into that course, even though I haven’t received an offer yet?
Short answer: You have a very high chance of getting in, but I can't guarantee with 100% certainty that you'll get the course (probability will be really high though). However, it's nothing to worry about. If I had to state a percentage of you getting in, it'd be near 90-95% with the last 5-10% being due to some rare situations - stuff you don't need to fret about.
For userrrname and Waldo
What would I gain out of just making this up... I’m just trying to understand just how set in stone prerequisites are. She went to a disadvantaged school and had the Access Melbourne thing as well if that’s any help. I think people should still keep their preferences regardless if they satisfy the prereqs or not and just wait and see.
You're not wrong at all. Your friend might have got in from SEAS and/or subject bonuses which may have overridden her SSs. See, I've always been told that prereqs are set in stone, but that was back in 2014. Things might have changed since then and I'm just unaware of this, so thanks for enlightening me to your friend's situation.

In that case, by all means, Waldo, I would strongly encourage that you ask during the Change of Preference Day at that institute you've almost got the prereq for whether that's possible. Although I would also look into bridging courses and alternative courses with lower prereqs if they say 'no', as a back up.
For IFailedYr12
   
I put in 3 or 2 categories of SEAS

Will it be anough?
Miniturtle's advice is still spot on. Subject bonuses may also get you in, so you still have a chance of getting in regardless.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: CindyN2 on December 14, 2018, 11:25:16 am
Hi, I was just wondering when and how I can change my uni preferences? I've tried logging into the VTAC website but all it does is redirect me to my atar results page. Thanks.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 11:35:26 am
Hi, I was just wondering when and how I can change my uni preferences? I've tried logging into the VTAC website but all it does is redirect me to my atar results page. Thanks.
It seems like the page is overloaded at the moment, lots of people are having trouble getting in - try it again tomorrow and you should be able to do it. You have a few days before change of preferences closes (someone else can probably give you the exact date) so don't worry about it just yet!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 11:36:20 am
Hi, I was just wondering when and how I can change my uni preferences? I've tried logging into the VTAC website but all it does is redirect me to my atar results page. Thanks.
Everyone's having the same issue (see here). Have a little patience and you'll be able to change yours soon too. Preferences aren't due until Wednesday 19th, so you've got time.

As for how to change them, there's a good thread from 2016 by Aaron that will still be applicable. That should help for the most part. If not, post again on this thread for more specific guidance. :)

Note: Beaten by PF. (Thanks PF!)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Vri123 on December 14, 2018, 12:08:04 pm
I got 93.15 and have seas for a medical reason.
Think its possible for me to make it into melbourne commerce?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 14, 2018, 12:10:11 pm
I got 93.15 and have seas for a medical reason.
Think its possible for me to make it into melbourne commerce?

it's possible. Last year someone got in with lower https://study.unimelb.edu.au/find/courses/undergraduate/bachelor-of-commerce/entry-requirements/
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: DinWell on December 14, 2018, 12:10:24 pm
I recently got an email from monash about vice-chancellors scholarship. Does this apply to any course I do if I accept it?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 14, 2018, 12:12:21 pm
I recently got an email from monash about vice-chancellors scholarship. Does this apply to any course I do if I accept it?

Any monash undergraduate course  https://www.monash.edu/study/fees-scholarships/scholarships/find-a-scholarship/vice-chancellors-scholarship-for-excellence-4010
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: catkittenz on December 14, 2018, 12:40:24 pm
if you do a course first year (say optometry) and do ucat during that year and want to transfer to med
do they base whether you get in or not using atar or how you did in the first course
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 12:51:54 pm
if you do a course first year (say optometry) and do ucat during that year and want to transfer to med
do they base whether you get in or not using atar or how you did in the first course
Generally (and please double check this yourself), it's just how you fared in your first course (optometry in your example) after a year (or more) of uni study.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: vceme on December 14, 2018, 01:17:19 pm
Do all scholarship offers come out today?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 01:23:18 pm
Is there even any chance of me getting a Vice-chancellor offer for Monash. I was 0.1 off. I would imagine they would be strict so I'm not really expecting a yes for this answer. Thank you x
It depends on the amount of scholarships they have (130 for Year 12s), the disadvantage(s) you faced e.g. financial, medical, etc. and the amount of people who just generally fit the criteria and accept the scholarship. So... chances are very unlikely, as you can expect, but possible in a rare coincidence.

Side note: Monash and Centrelink pair up to provide most disadvantaged students with the UniStart Support Scholarship, if all else fails. If you are at all disadvantaged, you'll at least receive this one. :)   
Do all scholarship offers come out today?
A few. Unis can only contact so many people in one day and confirm things on their end, so expect scholarships to take a while (so up until course offers come out). Some of the smaller scholarships e.g. UniStart come up in like March/April once you start uni as well.   
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: sallyyyyy on December 14, 2018, 01:32:28 pm
Hi I am just wondering what is the chance of getting into biomedicine in Melb uni with an ATAR of 96.15?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 01:38:04 pm
Hi I am just wondering what is the chance of getting into biomedicine in Melb uni with an ATAR of 96.15?
According to this, very high. Guaranteed if you were accepted into the Access Melbourne program.

From here:
For Ammeamme
What are my chances of getting into Melb Uni biomed with an atar of 92? (minimum atar is 95)
I'm ineligible for Access Melb but I did apply for SEAS category 1 and received the Monash Guarantee, which means I may still get SEAS points.
Chances look okay. You might still qualify for some subject bonuses. I haven't been able to find any so far, but that's just because I'm wrapped up here on AN and haven't had a moment. I'd check to see if that lifts your aggregate and therefore your ATAR to the 95 minimum. (Read up on subject bonuses on my previous posts in this thread.) Remember 95 is the clearly-in for first year uni 2018. It might change a little in 2019 due to demand and spots available.

Should I change my first preference from biomed to science so that I can receive a definite first round offer (minimum atar for science is 85), accept it and then place biomed as my first pref to see if I get a second round offer? Or should I keep biomed as my first pref from the outset? I just don't want to deal with the anxiety of not getting a first round offer  :(
Well, if you ultimately want to study Biomed at UoM, then keep that in Preference #1 no matter your ATAR. There's a rare, but possible chance if you leave it there that you'll get that offer. After that, it depends on what you like best and think is best for yourself. Are you dead set on studying Biomed, studying at UoM or something else more?

EDIT: Never mind. Got answered on original thread.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: sallyyyyy on December 14, 2018, 02:02:10 pm
According to this, very high. Guaranteed if you were accepted into the Access Melbourne program.


Thank you so much for replying!!

Sorry but can you please explain the access Melbourne program?

And doesn’t the clearly in rank changes every year? Before 2016 wasn’t it like 98 or even higher?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Lear on December 14, 2018, 02:07:17 pm


Thank you so much for replying!!

Sorry but can you please explain the access Melbourne program?

And doesn’t the clearly in rank changes every year? Before 2016 wasn’t it like 98 or even higher?

Over the years melbourne has been taking more and more people in for Biomed so naturally the cut off has been lowered. I would expect it to be the same or even lower this year. You have a great chance :)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 02:07:52 pm

Thank you so much for replying!!

Sorry but can you please explain the access Melbourne program?

And doesn’t the clearly in rank changes every year? Before 2016 wasn’t it like 98 or even higher?
Access Melbourne provides a guarantee of an offer if you qualify for SEAS and achieve the minimum ATAR
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 02:20:30 pm
Sorry but can you please explain the access Melbourne program?
Lear's answered the other questions, so I'll just answer this one.

Access Melbourne is effectively the SEAS program at UoM. You can check out all about them here.

Note: added to PF's response.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: tra0027 on December 14, 2018, 02:27:31 pm
Hi, I got an ATAR of 87.55 and I have been accepted into Access Melbourne for financial and underrepresented school. I want to do a Bachelor of Commerce that has a guaranteed spot for those with an 88 ATAR with SEAS. I'm only .45 off, so would I still possibly be considered for the course? Last year someone got accepted with a 81.10. I've definitely got more than needed for the prerequisites and I've also done Accounting, which I'm not sure whether it would be of any help.  Thank you!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 02:30:33 pm
Hi, I got an ATAR of 87.55 and I have been accepted into Access Melbourne for financial and underrepresented school. I want to do a Bachelor of Commerce that has a guaranteed spot for those with an 88 ATAR with SEAS. I'm only .45 off, so would I still possibly be considered for the course? Last year someone got accepted with a 81.10. I've definitely got more than needed for the prerequisites and I've also done Accounting, which I'm not sure whether it would be of any help.  Thank you!
Yeah, I don't see why not. You've exceeded the minimum ATAR, got a fair bit of SEAS and potentially a subject bonus. Probably still a good chance. If it's ultimately what you want to do, keep it at first preference. :)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: ammeamme on December 14, 2018, 02:38:24 pm
Yeah, I don't see why not. You've exceeded the minimum ATAR, got a fair bit of SEAS and potentially a subject bonus. Probably still a good chance. If it's ultimately what you want to do, keep it at first preference. :)

I thought Melb Uni didn't offer subject bonuses? I can't find any info on their website  :-\
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 02:46:01 pm
I thought Melb Uni didn't offer subject bonuses? I can't find any info on their website  :-\
I haven't had the chance to look it up so far. Pretty sure they offered it back when I was applying via VTAC (2014) so I'm kind of hopeful they've kept it somewhere and I just haven't seen it yet. I'll have a deeper look as soon as I get the chance. :)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Seanclair on December 14, 2018, 04:51:25 pm
Hey so I am intending to study arts/law at USYD which requires a 99.5 ATAR. I achieved a 96.95 however I have an EAS application being a low socioeconomic school which lowers the ATAR to 95 under the broadway scheme. Is admission into the broadway scheme guaranteed if you have a successful EAS application? If so, that means I am likely to receive an offer? Is that so?

Anyone who has been through USYD broadway scheme who can help me out please dooooo as I'm really unsure as to whether I should swap something else into my first preference as I won't get into USYD or hold on and hope for the best.

:)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 04:55:00 pm
Hey so I am intending to study arts/law at USYD which requires a 99.5 ATAR. I achieved a 96.95 however I have an EAS application being a low socioeconomic school which lowers the ATAR to 95 under the broadway scheme. Is admission into the broadway scheme guaranteed if you have a successful EAS application? If so, that means I am likely to receive an offer? Is that so?

Anyone who has been through USYD broadway scheme who can help me out please dooooo as I'm really unsure as to whether I should swap something else into my first preference as I won't get into USYD or hold on and hope for the best.

:)
Not super familiar with USYD so I can’t answer that side of things but definitely leave it as your first preference! Just make sure you have other preferences in your list in case you miss out.

If you leave it first the worst that will happen is that you’ll get an offer for your 2nd/3rd/etc preference, if you move it you risk not getting an offer there at all (instead you’ll get an offer for a course that is higher than it and you’ll never know if you could’ve gotten in).
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 05:07:28 pm
To clarify, I'm from Victoria so I'm assuming (a big generalisation) that the process of SEAS here is similar to EAS in NSW. Otherwise it's all just 2 minutes of research. 
Hey so I am intending to study arts/law at USYD which requires a 99.5 ATAR. I achieved a 96.95 however I have an EAS application being a low socioeconomic school which lowers the ATAR to 95 under the broadway scheme. Is admission into the broadway scheme guaranteed if you have a successful EAS application?
Well, according to the Broadway Scheme website, it says it can be based on EAS, but not actually guaranteed by a successful EAS application. Think of it as a set of two barriers. One has to confirm you got EAS, the next is that you have to get accepted into the Broadway Scheme. 
If so, that means I am likely to receive an offer? Is that so?
If you have received notice of acceptance into the Broadway scheme, likely. If EAS covers you that far, likely. 
I'm really unsure as to whether I should swap something else into my first preference as I won't get into USYD or hold on and hope for the best.
If UAC does things like VTAC, then you should keep the first preference as what you really want to study the most, aside from conditional offers stating that you must put them as first preference.

Note: Beaten by PF, but leaving this here anyway. If anyone from NSW knows about this, would encourage you to still bring your opinions to the table.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: freddyhayward on December 14, 2018, 05:33:01 pm
hey I got 87.8, applied for SEAS but am NOT in access Melbourne. I want to get into BA at Melbourne. The minimum ATAR is 85 but according to the course website the clearly-in is 89.3. So does that mean I'm not guaranteed for the 1st or even 2nd round?

http://ba.unimelb.edu.au/study/degrees/bachelor-of-arts/entry-requirements#entry-requirements
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 05:35:10 pm
Hi, just received ATAR and unfortunately missed out on USYD Law guaranteed entry by 0.25. I have it as first preference. Should I be expecting to perhaps get an offer in 2nd or 3rd round coz I'm really desperate to stay in Sydney and not have to go interstate. Thankyou for any help :)
Yeah generally they give offers to people with lower ATARs in later rounds. Regardless, leave it at preference 1 to give yourself the best chance :)
Edit: I'm assuming it's a normal course that gives out offers in multiple rounds? By guaranteed entry I'm assuming you mean the clearly in?
hey I got 87.8, applied for SEAS but am NOT in access Melbourne. I want to get into BA at Melbourne. The minimum ATAR is 85 but according to the course website the clearly-in is 89.3. So does that mean I'm not guaranteed for the 1st or even 2nd round?

http://ba.unimelb.edu.au/study/degrees/bachelor-of-arts/entry-requirements#entry-requirements
Means you're not guaranteed, but it doesn't mean you won't get an offer so leave it in your preferences.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: freddyhayward on December 14, 2018, 05:58:32 pm
Means you're not guaranteed, but it doesn't mean you won't get an offer so leave it in your preferences.

Thanks for the reply, what I should have added earlier  is that the below website (study.unimelb rather than ba.unimelb) doesn't mention the clearly-in whatsoever except in referring to the lowest selection rank (in this case 85):
Quote
Previously known as the ‘clearly-in rank’, this is the lowest selection rank to which offers were made this year, including relevant adjustments. This should be used as a guide for entry.

The language seems unclear - the same as clearly-in but only a guide?. It looks to me like the minimum and clearly-in ATAR are now effectively the same for whatever reason (accepting more students?) but I need to be sure I'm not just grasping at straws.

https://study.unimelb.edu.au/find/courses/undergraduate/bachelor-of-arts/entry-requirements/
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 06:04:53 pm
Thanks for the reply, what I should have added earlier  is that the below website (study.unimelb rather than ba.unimelb) doesn't mention the clearly-in whatsoever except in referring to the lowest selection rank (in this case 85):
The language seems unclear - the same as clearly-in but only a guide?. It looks to me like the minimum and clearly-in ATAR are now effectively the same for whatever reason (accepting more students?) but I need to be sure I'm not just grasping at straws.

https://study.unimelb.edu.au/find/courses/undergraduate/bachelor-of-arts/entry-requirements/
I interpreted that to mean that you have to score at least 85 to be considered (unless you qualify for SEAS) however just because you score 85+ doesn't necessarily mean you'll get a place because it varies a bit each year depending on who applies and what ATARs they have.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: ihatemethods1234 on December 14, 2018, 06:07:36 pm
Please help everyone :(
I calculated my adjusted atar to be 89.40 however the lowest selection rank for my course is 91.05 (monash bachelor of engieering {honours}). Can i still get an offer with this score? What is the probability?
Thankyou so much everyone!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 14, 2018, 06:12:07 pm
Please help everyone :(
I calculated my adjusted atar to be 89.40 however the lowest selection rank for my course is 91.05 (monash bachelor of engieering {honours}). Can i still get an offer with this score? What is the probability?
Thankyou so much everyone!

There's a chance but I honestly cannot tell you how high it is.
Keep it at the top of your preference list & just have something lower as well, so that if you don't get your first choice you still get a different one
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Danneo on December 14, 2018, 06:16:33 pm
Is going to Uni for music a good idea?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 06:17:17 pm
To everyone who I've said potentially could have subject bonuses from The University of Melbourne, my sincerest apologies for misleading you all. Apparently they've changed things since what I remember in 2014, meaning that subject bonuses are unlikely a thing at The University of Melbourne any more. I've only recently discovered this myself in this thread. Sorry again.

Regardless, I would advise that your first preference should still remain as what you wanted most, as this gives you the chance to still get in and is much better than leaving it off your preferences entirely (giving you absolutely zero chance).
Is going to Uni for music a good idea?
If you really enjoy it and/ or want to pursue a career in music, why not?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: jake4121 on December 14, 2018, 06:45:30 pm
Hey AN,

I was just wondering what my chances of getting into the Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical and Electronic Engineering) (Honours) at RMIT would be considering that I got a 69.05, whilst on the website it states that a 80.60 is needed. I have applied for the SEAS Category 2, as I am from a financially disadvantaged background which means I could receive up to 15 aggregate points and I am also eligible for subject bonuses for Physics and Chemistry which could be another 3 aggregate points on top of the Category 2.

Thank you!  :D
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 14, 2018, 06:58:13 pm
Hey AN,

I was just wondering what my chances of getting into the Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical and Electronic Engineering) (Honours) at RMIT would be considering that I got a 69.05, whilst on the website it states that a 80.60 is needed. I have applied for the SEAS Category 2, as I am from a financially disadvantaged background which means I could receive up to 15 aggregate points and I am also eligible for subject bonuses for Physics and Chemistry which could be another 3 aggregate points on top of the Category 2.

Thank you!  :D
If your SEAS has been already accepted (by now, most institutes have issued some type of notice as to whether that was accepted or not), then yeah, you've got a good solid chance right there. I just checked using this link and it looks like you exceeded the lowest ATAR accepted, so that's a sign in your favour too. :)
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: jake4121 on December 14, 2018, 07:11:31 pm
If your SEAS has been already accepted (by now, most institutes have issued some type of notice as to whether that was accepted or not), then yeah, you've got a good solid chance right there. I just checked using this link and it looks like you exceeded the lowest ATAR accepted, so that's a sign in your favour too. :)

Thank you for that! Was just wondering if anyone has received the SEAS email from RMIT. I have only received the Melbourne and Monash SEAS email so far and stressing out.  :-\
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 07:12:47 pm
Thank you for that! Was just wondering if anyone has received the SEAS email from RMIT. I have only received the Melbourne and Monash SEAS email so far and stressing out.  :-\
I haven't received RMIT either - not sure if they send anything or if they just add points without telling us.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: jake4121 on December 14, 2018, 08:14:38 pm
I haven't received RMIT either - not sure if they send anything or if they just add points without telling us.

Hopefully they let us know, I mean my Melbourne University SEAS got processed for the same category I applied for on VTAC so hopefully it applies to RMIT too.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: petersenge on December 15, 2018, 12:16:12 am
Hi,

How do I know if Melbourne Uni has accepted me for the Access Melbourne program?
Monash already emailed me saying I'm accepted for the Monash Guarantee but nothing from Melbourne.

Thanks!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 15, 2018, 12:40:45 am
Hi,

How do I know if Melbourne Uni has accepted me for the Access Melbourne program?
Monash already emailed me saying I'm accepted for the Monash Guarantee but nothing from Melbourne.

Thanks!
Might be early days, as Access Melbourne notifications could be still arriving around this weekend, give or take several business days either side. (Same with some other institutes.)

I recall in previous years you could ask about Access Melbourne status during Melbourne's Change of Preference Day. If that's too hard to get to e.g. you're rural, then try calling them instead and checking up on it.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: IFailedYr12 on December 15, 2018, 11:55:55 am
For the guarantee your ATAR before SEAS adjustments is used, so unfortunately you won't be able to get in using the guarantee (as PF said). However, your SEAS adjusted ATAR may be enough to meet the clearly in. You can use this to estimate your SEAS adjusted ATAR for Monash.

I recommend leaving your courses in order of preference in case SEAS gives you enough adjustment to get in on round one.
If you haven't already, you may also wish to add a course with a clearly-in below 73 to your preference list


Good luck, and I hope this helps

(also: re your username. Getting an ATAR means you didn't fail VCE.)

It says on the calculator my estimated selection rank is 83.70 - is this a good estimation/good?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 15, 2018, 12:06:25 pm
It says on the calculator my estimated selection rank is 83.70 - is this a good estimation/good?

The estimation will be fairly accurate since it's made by Monash, whether it's good or not will depend on how the course you're looking at - Monash releases the ATAR profiles for their courses so you can look at that to provide some guidance.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: IFailedYr12 on December 15, 2018, 01:03:54 pm
The estimation will be fairly accurate since it's made by Monash, whether it's good or not will depend on how the course you're looking at - Monash releases the ATAR profiles for their courses so you can look at that to provide some guidance.

So for BA of I.T/Arts the lowest selection rank was 81.75 where the estimated one was 83.70.

But the median is 88.65
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: smamsmo22 on December 15, 2018, 01:50:20 pm
Does anyone have any idea of my chances at a Monash or LTU excellence (Academic achievement) scholarship? I have an ATAR of 99.75, I think the first round offers have been released for both but is there a chance for second round? If so, does anyone know when/how I would find out about this?
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 15, 2018, 02:02:16 pm
So for BA of I.T/Arts the lowest selection rank was 81.75 where the estimated one was 83.70.

But the median is 88.65

This suggest to me that you have a decent chance of getting in; but if the course is more popular this year you might miss out.


Does anyone have any idea of my chances at a Monash or LTU excellence (Academic achievement) scholarship? I have an ATAR of 99.75, I think the first round offers have been released for both but is there a chance for second round? If so, does anyone know when/how I would find out about this?
Thanks so much!

I don't know about LTU, but this suggests that first round offers aren't complete for Monash excellence
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: userrrname on December 15, 2018, 02:21:20 pm
Hey, I dont know where to ask this. Our school had told us that to apply for any scholarship all we had to do is to apply to vtac and we will automatically be considered for any scholarship we are eligible for. After looking at some unis (namely monash and melbourne) it appears that you have to also apply through the uni... Is this correct? Where do we apply for scholarships? And it seems its way past the closing date. I'm so confused
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Bri MT on December 15, 2018, 02:29:31 pm
Hey, I dont know where to ask this. Our school had told us that to apply for any scholarship all we had to do is to apply to vtac and we will automatically be considered for any scholarship we are eligible for. After looking at some unis (namely monash and melbourne) it appears that you have to also apply through the uni... Is this correct? Where do we apply for scholarships? And it seems its way past the closing date. I'm so confused

Lots of scholarships are through VTAC but not all of them.  I'm sorry that your school told you that - it's factually incorrect.

There are some scholarships that can still be applied for so I recommend checking lists of scholarships to see if you might be eligible for any of those.
Many the scholarships that don't go through VTAC are from external providers, and so you can expect to need to make separate applications for each you apply to.

If you have a careers counsellor or similar at your school, consider emailing them to see if they'll help you find suitable ones
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: DinWell on December 15, 2018, 08:24:20 pm
If I got more than 1 scholarship from the same uni and accepted both, will the money that they provide be added together?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 15, 2018, 08:29:25 pm
If I got more than 1 scholarship from the same uni and accepted both, will the money that they provide be added together?
(I'm assuming by added together you're asking if you'll get the money from both?)
It depends on the uni and the specific scholarships - some will allow you to have more then 1, some you can't get if you have gotten another scholarship - best to check the info about the specific scholarships on the uni's website
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: ellen_fennell on December 16, 2018, 01:06:18 am
I was wondering if you have SEAS does that also mean you qualify for Access Melbourne? I have SEAS for medical reasons so does that mean I have Access Melbourne as well?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: Chelsea f.c. on December 16, 2018, 01:23:48 am
no SEAS is not necessarily access melbourne but will be considered with your application anyway. you'll be notified for access melbourne.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: ellen_fennell on December 16, 2018, 09:16:39 am
Are you also meant to receive an email from the Universities on your preferences saying they have received your SEAS application?
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 16, 2018, 09:22:24 am
Are you also meant to receive an email from the Universities on your preferences saying they have received your SEAS application?
I don't think so - I've received email/text from monash/melbourne about their guarantees but I haven't heard anything from unis that don't have their own program (RMIT, La trobe). I think you only find out if you get a guarantee, not just if you qualify for SEAS, and AFAIK only monash and Melb have guarantees.
Title: Re: After Year 12: Q & A Thread
Post by: AngelWings on December 17, 2018, 12:10:53 am
Topic is now locked. Thanks everyone for asking your questions.

If you've still got questions, feel free to ask the appropriate board. If it's too specific, contact the appropriate institute or pay them a visit during their Change of Preference Day(s) if they're having one. I collated a list of Victorian institutes that are having Change of Preference Days this year, including registration links where applicable.

Here's a list of posts that mods have posted about some of the most commonly asked questions:
PhoenixxFire's Didn't get the ATAR for Access Melbourne/Monash guarantee?
Miniturtle's Guide: I didn't get the clearly in - should I change my preferences
PhoenixxFire's Missed out on pre-reqs? Bridging courses are available (Swinburne and Monash)

...and some of the most common questions in this Q + A:
Q: What's the chance of me getting into X course?
A: Your chance will vary depending on your circumstances, demand for this course and the amount of spots available. Whatever it is, if [insert course] is what you want to do the most and you have fulfilled everything (e.g. prereqs + other criteria) wiith(out) the lowest ATAR, leave it at first preference. If your ATAR is lower than that of the clearly-in/ lowest ATAR accepted, insert at least one course that you would be comfortable studying and have all the criteria, including ATAR, prereqs and so forth as a preference.

If it's on your preference list, there's at least a possibility that you'll receive that offer. If not, there is basically zero chance.
Q: Are notifications from this SEAS/inequities program out yet? Did I qualify? (I checked my spam folder already.)
A: Most are still going around. Please ask the appropriate people, if need be. Access Melbourne seems to be still processing and is delayed.

Many of these programs (excluding Monash Guarantee and Access Melbourne) may not provide notification of whether you received your SEAS or not, unless you get a guarantee from them.
Q: I want/ need to transfer after a semester/ year of study. Will they use my ATAR?
A: If you're transferring after one semester of study, your ATAR may be considered with your university grades. If you're transferring after a year of study, only your university grades will be considered majority of the time (AFAIK).
Q: When is X scholarship out?
A: Scholarships may arrive sometime between ATAR release to offers, with some excellence/ merit scholarships being a little closer to the ATAR Release Day. I'm not sure of second round offer dates; that's something to research and ask the institute yourself. Most have not been offered as of typing this post (just past midnight on December 17 2018). Please wait patiently until time comes.