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Title: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on September 17, 2015, 05:18:23 pm
We are getting extremely close to exam time and thought we should have a thread dedicated to discussion of practice exams.
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Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 17, 2015, 07:45:20 pm
Okay to gets us started:
What order are you doing the VCAA biology past papers, backwards, forwards, by unit or alternating Unit 3 & Unit 4?

When are you guys going to start doing the full 110 marks 2.5 hour exams?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: BakedDwarf on September 17, 2015, 07:52:15 pm
Okay to gets us started:
What order are you doing the VCAA biology past papers, backwards, forwards, by unit or alternating Unit 3 & Unit 4?

When are you guys going to start doing the full 110 marks 2.5 hour exams?

So far, i've done U3/U4 2006, 2007 and 2008 exams in timed conditions (going forwards). In all honestly, I found 2006 to be the most difficult VCAA paper so far, considering the A+ cut-off was 54/75.

As for commercial papers, i've done none because i've got none (other than exampro). School isn't providing me with anything.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: paper-back on September 17, 2015, 08:01:35 pm
As for commercial papers, i've done none because i've got none (other than exampro). School isn't providing me with anything.

MOD EDIT: don't share copyrighted content please!

EDIT: Woops
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: chemzy on September 18, 2015, 08:24:29 pm
How do you know the A+ cut off score for 2006 exam was 54/75?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 18, 2015, 08:32:18 pm
How do you know the A+ cut off score for 2006 exam was 54/75?
You can find grade distributions on the VCAA website, the easiest way to do this is to type in to google
Grade distributions 20__ (2006)
Click on the most obvious link i.e Grade distributions 20__(2006)
Click on the subject you want and go to the relevant grade distribution.(Biology)

Be wary that exams are double marked thus 54/75 would show 108/150
Also Sac mark distributions are available too.
Here is 2006 Biology
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/statistics/vce_biology_ga06.pdf
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 19, 2015, 11:22:45 am
Okay to gets us started:
What order are you doing the VCAA biology past papers, backwards, forwards, by unit or alternating Unit 3 & Unit 4?

When are you guys going to start doing the full 110 marks 2.5 hour exams?

Far too early to be doing VCAA exams. Should be saves for last 3 weeks
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 19, 2015, 11:26:58 am
So far, i've done U3/U4 2006, 2007 and 2008 exams in timed conditions (going forwards). In all honestly, I found 2006 to be the most difficult VCAA paper so far, considering the A+ cut-off was 54/75.

As for commercial papers, i've done none because i've got none (other than exampro). School isn't providing me with anything.

2006 was extremely difficult but that's the only one I have done. Did you mark yourself on it
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 19, 2015, 11:30:09 am
I hear 1998/1999 unit 4 is the same as the current study design. Is that true?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 19, 2015, 06:11:30 pm

I got 60/75 for the 2006 exam 1 was pretty hard
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 19, 2015, 07:30:08 pm
I got 60/75 for the 2006 exam 1 was pretty hard

Nice. That's good if you marked yourself harshly
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: BakedDwarf on September 19, 2015, 07:38:26 pm
I got 60/75 for the 2006 exam 1 was pretty hard

I got a similar result (63/75). I got 25/25 for MC but lost 12 marks for SA.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 19, 2015, 07:46:15 pm
I got a similar result (63/75). I got 25/25 for MC but lost 12 marks for SA.

2006 is the hardest out of all of them I heard
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 20, 2015, 02:48:07 pm
This is from a really early VCAA exam, Unit 3 2000.

Just to clarify questions on water balance specifically are not part of the current syllabus.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 20, 2015, 03:06:23 pm
This is from a really early VCAA exam, Unit 3 2000.

Just to clarify questions on water balance specifically are not part of the current syllabus.

Hey,

What do you think 85% would be as a study score seeing this is meant to be a hard exam
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 20, 2015, 03:10:41 pm
Hey,

What do you think 85% would be as a study score seeing this is meant to be a hard exam

Just curious did you get 85% on a particular exam?
If it was a hard exam probably a easy 40 considering your cohort and rank.

This is from a really early VCAA exam, Unit 3 2000.

Just to clarify questions on water balance specifically are not part of the current syllabus.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 20, 2015, 03:11:59 pm
If it was a hard exam probably a easy 40 considering your cohort and rank.
Anyone?

Water balance is no longer on the study design
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 20, 2015, 03:13:35 pm
Water balance is no longer on the study design
Did you/can you have a look at the previously attached questions from Unit 3 2000. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 20, 2015, 03:29:05 pm
If it was a hard exam probably a easy 40 considering your cohort and rank.
Anyone?

I've been getting around 85% for most practice exams bit i'm sure VCAA exams are much harder
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 20, 2015, 03:34:00 pm
Did you/can you have a look at the previously attached questions from Unit 3 2000. Thanks :)

Do you want me to answer them or? The new study design started in 2006, so anything before that in Unit 3, specifically including those questions, is not part of the study design.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 20, 2015, 03:42:46 pm
Do you want me to answer them or? The new study design started in 2006, so anything before that in Unit 3, specifically including those questions, is not part of the study design.
Nah just verifying that knowledge for those specific questions are not required. :)
I've been getting around 85% for most practice exams bit i'm sure VCAA exams are much harder
VCAA are much easier IMO than company papers(others may think differently) in VCAA papers most of the marks are easily accessible but their may be a couple of questions that are quite difficult. From the top companies e.g NEAP,STAV,LisaChem there is always a few difficult questions usually near the back-end of the exam which require not only the knowledge but critical thinking.

Have a go at a few VCAA exams and tell us how you go to give you a more accurate prediction.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 20, 2015, 03:53:11 pm
VCAA are much easier IMO than company papers(others may think differently) in VCAA papers most of the marks are easily accessible but their may be a couple of questions that are quite difficult. From the top companies e.g NEAP,STAV,LisaChem there is always a few difficult questions usually near the back-end of the exam which require not only the knowledge but critical thinking.

Have a go at a few VCAA exams and tell us how you go to give you a more accurate prediction.

If that's true then I am surprised. I found STAV and Lisachem to be the easiest companies

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 20, 2015, 06:55:31 pm
If that's true then I am surprised. I found STAV and Lisachem to be the easiest companies
Those papers vary in difficulty from year to year but usually always a notch above VCAA.

Do you guys keep a log book with all your mistakes is so how do you study those mistakes specifically?

Also a few questions on marking the Unit 3 2000 exam.

Question 4(a) What are two characteristics of a virus?
                       My two answers were Non-living and Protein coat
                       As per the marking scheme I get 1 mark for Protein coat and the other answer could have been either they can reproduce inside a host or the contain DNA or RNA core. Thoughts?
Question 7(b) Name an effector that would bring about a physiological response to stimulus X (decrease of body temperature)
                       I said Muscles the answer says skeletal muscles.


Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 20, 2015, 07:18:49 pm
Those papers vary in difficulty from year to year but usually always a notch above VCAA.

Do you guys keep a log book with all your mistakes is so how do you study those mistakes specifically?

Also a few questions on marking the Unit 3 2000 exam.

Question 4(a) What are two characteristics of a virus?
                       My two answers were Non-living and Protein coat
                       As per the marking scheme I get 1 mark for Protein coat and the other answer could have been either they can reproduce inside a host or the contain DNA or RNA core. Thoughts?
Question 7(b) Name an effector that would bring about a physiological response to stimulus X (decrease of body temperature)
                       I said Muscles the answer says skeletal muscles.

If there was specific information previously given, then I don't see why what you said does not yield the mark. But, next time, don't say non-living, try to say they're non-cellular, has more of an impact on the examiner xD

For the decrease of body temperature, I am pretty sure, not 100% though, that it's not only skeletal muscles. For example, any muscles will contract which will cause friction, and hence increase the internal body temperature.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 20, 2015, 07:24:03 pm
Those papers vary in difficulty from year to year but usually always a notch above VCAA.

Do you guys keep a log book with all your mistakes is so how do you study those mistakes specifically?

Also a few questions on marking the Unit 3 2000 exam.

Question 4(a) What are two characteristics of a virus?
                       My two answers were Non-living and Protein coat
                       As per the marking scheme I get 1 mark for Protein coat and the other answer could have been either they can reproduce inside a host or the contain DNA or RNA core. Thoughts?
Question 7(b) Name an effector that would bring about a physiological response to stimulus X (decrease of body temperature)
                       I said Muscles the answer says skeletal muscles.

Yeah I somehow lost the word document with all my mistakes.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Bruzzix on September 20, 2015, 10:32:28 pm
So far, i've done U3/U4 2006, 2007 and 2008 exams in timed conditions (going forwards). In all honestly, I found 2006 to be the most difficult VCAA paper so far, considering the A+ cut-off was 54/75.

As for commercial papers, i've done none because i've got none (other than exampro). School isn't providing me with anything.

Are you kidding? I did this paper a few months back and aced the multiple choice and only dropped a few marks in the short answer section.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 20, 2015, 10:48:07 pm
Are you kidding? I did this paper a few months back and aced the multiple choice and only dropped a few marks in the short answer section.

It's bloody hard compared to the later ones
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Bruzzix on September 20, 2015, 10:52:43 pm
Those papers vary in difficulty from year to year but usually always a notch above VCAA.

Do you guys keep a log book with all your mistakes is so how do you study those mistakes specifically?

Also a few questions on marking the Unit 3 2000 exam.

Question 4(a) What are two characteristics of a virus?
                       My two answers were Non-living and Protein coat
                       As per the marking scheme I get 1 mark for Protein coat and the other answer could have been either they can reproduce inside a host or the contain DNA or RNA core. Thoughts?
I wouldn't award you the mark for non-living because it isn't really a characteristic, it's more of a lack thereof. Also, referring to the protein coat as a capsid may show the examiner you have a better understanding than most other students.
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Question 7(b) Name an effector that would bring about a physiological response to stimulus X (decrease of body temperature)
                       I said Muscles the answer says skeletal muscles.
I also wouldn't award the mark for muscles. The reason is because with one word marks, VCAA are usually very picky with their answers (think back to intact skin and beta pleated sheets)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: thushan on September 21, 2015, 08:48:19 am
"Non living" is fine I think, although I'd have said non cellular.

And "muscle" is fine too, unless they referred to skeletal and smooth muscle in the question. I wouldn't expect you to think about specifying "skeletal muscle" at this level. This is just my viewpoint though!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 21, 2015, 05:43:20 pm
Does anyone know the A+ cut-offs for VCAA papers pre-2002. At the back end of the examiners reports there is a graph but no cut-offs.

I read in an extremely old thread that if the A+ cut-off was hypothetically speaking 60/75 thus top ~9-10% once you get to around 62/75 it takes out a huge amount of people moving to top 5-6% Anyone aware of anything like this.(It was for chemistry but it should be the same)

Is their a way to work out how many marks above the A+ cut-off you need to get various scores above 40 or is information from former students the best way to go?

Anyone have an extremely general rule(considering A+ cut-offs have ranged from 54-65/75 for exam score----->Study score for the exams that are out of 75marks

Thanks
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 21, 2015, 05:48:36 pm
Does anyone know the A+ cut-offs for VCAA papers pre-2002. At the back end of the examiners reports there is a graph but no cut-offs.

I read in an extremely old thread that if the A+ cut-off was hypothetically speaking 60/75 thus top ~9-10% once you get to around 62/75 it takes out a huge amount of people moving to top 5-6% Anyone aware of anything like this.(It was for chemistry but it should be the same)

Is their a way to work out how many marks above the A+ cut-off you need to get various scores above 40 or is information from former students the best way to go?

Anyone have an extremely general rule(considering A+ cut-offs have ranged from 54-65/75 for exam score----->Study score for the exams that are out of 75marks

Thanks

Did you find pre 2002 VCAA exams to be harder than the recent ones
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 21, 2015, 06:26:36 pm
Did you find pre 2002 VCAA exams to be harder than the recent ones
I'm not too sure as I haven't been able to do the full exams as some questions aren't relevant anymore for instance for Unit 3 2000 I completed 58 marks.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 21, 2015, 07:44:55 pm
Has anyone done the 2007 exam 1? I got 69/75 for a few stupid mistakes..

They accepted ribosomes for bi). but for the bii). they only said that the rough endoplasmic reticulum produced and secreted the IgE antibodies. My main concern is, I know this is true, because if proteins are produced and secreted, then they're produced by the fixed ribosomes on the rough endoplasmic reticulum, and free ribosomes only produce proteins for intracellular use. So for part bii). I said that the ribosomes need to be present to produce these antibodies. Would this gain the mark or did I need to be specific about the rough ER ribosomes actually producing these antibodies, as they're secreted?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 21, 2015, 10:25:15 pm
Has anyone done the 2007 exam 1? I got 69/75 for a few stupid mistakes..

They accepted ribosomes for bi). but for the bii). they only said that the rough endoplasmic reticulum produced and secreted the IgE antibodies. My main concern is, I know this is true, because if proteins are produced and secreted, then they're produced by the fixed ribosomes on the rough endoplasmic reticulum, and free ribosomes only produce proteins for intracellular use. So for part bii). I said that the ribosomes need to be present to produce these antibodies. Would this gain the mark or did I need to be specific about the rough ER ribosomes actually producing these antibodies, as they're secreted? Bump
69/75 is a great score! The A+ cut-off was 60.5/75 XD
 Did you ace MC. I haven't done 2007 exam 1 but from what I've heard they should rename it and call it a test on immunity.



Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 21, 2015, 10:53:33 pm
69/75 is a great score! The A+ cut-off was 60.5/75 XD
 Did you ace MC. I haven't done 2007 exam 1 but from what I've heard they should rename it and call it a test on immunity.

The hardest thing is learning to mark yourself harshly is what I've found
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 21, 2015, 10:55:04 pm
69/75 is a great score! The A+ cut-off was 60.5/75 XD
 Did you ace MC. I haven't done 2007 exam 1 but from what I've heard they should rename it and call it a test on immunity.

Haha, not a great score. Definitely room for improvement. I got all the MC right but lost insanely stupid marks.

I got my brother to mark it for me, he took off marks because:
Spoiler
I lost marks on the above question (asnwer it for me, its on the exam anyways). I lost a mark because I said carbohydrates as the polymer for monosaccharides, but I just learnt that they're polysaccharides, and carbohydrates are not polymers (glucose is a carb...).
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 21, 2015, 11:08:36 pm
Has anyone done the 2007 exam 1? I got 69/75 for a few stupid mistakes..

They accepted ribosomes for bi). but for the bii). they only said that the rough endoplasmic reticulum produced and secreted the IgE antibodies. My main concern is, I know this is true, because if proteins are produced and secreted, then they're produced by the fixed ribosomes on the rough endoplasmic reticulum, and free ribosomes only produce proteins for intracellular use. So for part bii). I said that the ribosomes need to be present to produce these antibodies. Would this gain the mark or did I need to be specific about the rough ER ribosomes actually producing these antibodies, as they're secreted?

Okay my answers would have been ribosomes & synthesis of proteins whilst relating the proteins to the antibodies because they asked for the "specific role"
So I don't see why you wouldn't get the mark.
A former assessor told me that they are given a sheet with suggested solutions but if they feel like the statement is correct and makes sense but not exactly like the solutions they will grant the mark.
Usually with the more ambiguous questions they are either really lenient or really harsh. 
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 21, 2015, 11:13:22 pm
Okay my answers would have been ribosomes & synthesis of proteins whilst relating the proteins to the antibodies because they asked for the "specific role"
So I don't see why you wouldn't get the mark.
A former assessor told me that they are given a sheet with suggested solutions but if they feel like the statement is correct and makes sense but not exactly like the solutions they will grant the mark.
Usually with the more ambiguous questions they are either really lenient or really harsh.

Well thats good to hear then xD
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 22, 2015, 09:50:22 pm
Where are B cells formed in the body?   1 mark
I answered "Thymus" as I thought they were produced there but the answers say bone marrow. Is their a distinction between formation as in they are called somthing else before they go to the bone marrow?

Also for the question attatched there was a arrow pointing to the myelin sheath but as it was pointing to a single cell I answered that it was a schwann cell. Answers say myelin sheath.

Both these questions are from VCAA 2001 Unit 3
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: BakedDwarf on September 22, 2015, 10:02:00 pm
Where are B cells formed in the body?   1 mark
I answered "Thymus" as I thought they were produced there but the answers say bone marrow. Is their a distinction between formation as in they are called somthing else before they go to the bone marrow?

Also for the question attatched there was a arrow pointing to the myelin sheath but as it was pointing to a single cell I answered that it was a schwann cell. Answers say myelin sheath.

Both these questions are from VCAA 2001 Unit 3

Adult stem cells (undifferentiated cells) in the bone marrow differentiate into specialised B and T cells. Hence:
- B-cells are produced and mature in the bone marrow.
- T-cells are produced in the bone marrow but mature in the thymus gland

Is this what you're looking after?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 22, 2015, 10:26:42 pm
Where are B cells formed in the body?   1 mark
I answered "Thymus" as I thought they were produced there but the answers say bone marrow. Is their a distinction between formation as in they are called somthing else before they go to the bone marrow?

Also for the question attatched there was a arrow pointing to the myelin sheath but as it was pointing to a single cell I answered that it was a schwann cell. Answers say myelin sheath.

Both these questions are from VCAA 2001 Unit 3

Basically what BakedDwarf said, you can remember them by:

B = bone marrow
T = thymus

Hence B cells are produced in the bone marrow from stem cells, and also mature there, whereas T cells are produced in the bone marrow from stem cells but mature in the thymus.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 22, 2015, 10:30:57 pm
Where are B cells formed in the body?   1 mark
I answered "Thymus" as I thought they were produced there but the answers say bone marrow. Is their a distinction between formation as in they are called somthing else before they go to the bone marrow?

Also for the question attatched there was a arrow pointing to the myelin sheath but as it was pointing to a single cell I answered that it was a schwann cell. Answers say myelin sheath.

Both these questions are from VCAA 2001 Unit 3

The neuron is a bit ambiguous, not going to lie. But I would have said myelin sheath too, only because the black shade is actually surrounding/coating the axon, and it wasn't the whole cell shaded in, suggesting that this is the myelin sheath.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 22, 2015, 10:45:05 pm
The neuron is a bit ambiguous, not going to lie. But I would have said myelin sheath too, only because the black shade is actually surrounding/coating the axon, and it wasn't the whole cell shaded in, suggesting that this is the myelin sheath.
Thanks for the input
Have you completed Unit 3 2001 -VCAA how did you go, I thought there was only about 49 marks which were available as per this study design.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 22, 2015, 10:49:33 pm
Thanks for the input
Have you completed Unit 3 2001 -VCAA how did you go, I thought there was only about 49 marks which were available as per this study design.

Is biology your only 3/4 this year? How often are you doing practice exams?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: THEBEAST on September 23, 2015, 12:58:03 pm
Can anyone please share with me Unit 3 VCAA papers before 2002 as I can't seem to find them anywhere
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 23, 2015, 01:25:13 pm
Can anyone please share with me Unit 3 VCAA papers before 2002 as I can't seem to find them anywhere

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/studies/biology/exams.aspx
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Bruzzix on September 23, 2015, 02:05:18 pm
Can anyone please share with me Unit 3 VCAA papers before 2002 as I can't seem to find them anywhere
I've attached 2000 and 2001 in this post. :)

EDIT: removed copyrighted material. It's not freely available from VCAA, therefore sharing it is to infringe copyright. Last time I'm saying this, please don't share copyrighted material on the thread. If you get caught by one of the NatMods, they will ban you guys! :(
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: THEBEAST on September 23, 2015, 04:34:16 pm
I've attached 2000 and 2001 in this post. :)

Thank you so much!!! :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 23, 2015, 04:39:37 pm
Is biology your only 3/4 this year? How often are you doing practice exams?
Yup it's my only 3/4 how many are you doing this year?
I'm doing 1-2 practice exams but lately I've been reviewing my notes thoroughly especially for both Unit 3 & 4

Do you guys reckon we would need to get 40/40 for MC to have a chance at getting a 45
the average score in MC's have been
2014:~28.75
2013:~27.26
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 23, 2015, 05:42:43 pm
Yup it's my only 3/4 how many are you doing this year?
I'm doing 1-2 practice exams but lately I've been reviewing my notes thoroughly especially for both Unit 3 & 4

Do you guys reckon we would need to get 40/40 for MC to have a chance at getting a 45
the average score in MC's have been
2014:~28.75
2013:~27.26

Obviously it depends on how you do on the SA but 40/40 would make it a lot easier. 1-2 exams every days???
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 23, 2015, 06:02:53 pm
Obviously it depends on how you do on the SA but 40/40 would make it a lot easier. 1-2 exams every days???
I'm trying to do 2 exams but been doing 1 exam each day of the holidays.
With the non-VCAA exams I tend to finish them with time to spare and I don't just wait for time to run out.
But with VCAA I do them in full timed conditions+reading time.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 23, 2015, 06:16:43 pm
I'm trying to do 2 exams but been doing 1 exam each day of the holidays.
With the non-VCAA exams I tend to finish them with time to spare and I don't just wait for time to run out.
But with VCAA I do them in full timed conditions+reading time.

What scores do you get on non VCAA ones?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Sine on September 23, 2015, 11:10:32 pm
What scores do you get on non VCAA ones?
I wasn't doing too well always around 4 marks were barely accessible so I was getting around 60-65/75 but doing better on VCAA stuff

What do you guys reckon the cut-off will be for a 45?

 
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Biology24123 on September 23, 2015, 11:12:31 pm
I wasn't doing too well always around 4 marks were barely accessible so I was getting around 60-65/75 but doing better on VCAA stuff

What do you guys reckon the cut-off will be for a 45.

No clue. This is predicted to be a harder exam since last years was very easy. 98-100/110?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: cosine on September 23, 2015, 11:24:55 pm
Has anyone done last years exam? If so, how did you go. Mind posting your score?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on September 25, 2015, 02:45:25 pm
How do you get 110% on an exam?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on September 25, 2015, 03:14:43 pm
How do you get 110% on an exam?
Slip some cash into the paper before you hand it in.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on September 25, 2015, 04:24:20 pm
How do you get 110% on an exam?

You write extra questions on the exam paper and answer them.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on September 26, 2015, 03:51:14 pm
Okay so I did VCAA 2001 Unit 4 and have a few questions.

Q6(b)Identify one selection pressure which may occur in spring and explain how this selection pressure accounts for the difference in the frequency of the two differently coloured ladybird beetles
I identified the correct selection pressures---predators
I then said In the spring there may be predators that can more easily identify & find black beetles than red beetles thus they are more likely to be eaten by the predators thus population decreased i.e Perecentage of black beetles decrease

The model answer is:
Predators (e.g. birds) are the selection pressure and flowers present in spring which camouflage the red beetles from
predators. The black beetles are more obvious and are eaten by predators while the red beetles survive and reproduce or a
different predator is present in spring that eats black beetles in preference to the red beetles.

Did I have to suggest the presence of flowers?

Q7(b)(i) Give one possible reason why fossils of Archaeopteryx are rare:
My answer: It is a transitional species & fossil. Which would have existed for a short time period
VCAA answer: Archaeopteryx were not common or lived in area where conditions were unsuitable for fossilisation or only lived in a small
region or the animal deteriorated before fossilisation.

(ii)Give one possible reason why some of the Archaeopteryx fossil are incomplete
My answer: they were not fully buried initially
VCAA answer: Before fossilisation the individual was partially eaten or decomposed or its bones were scattered by water/predators. After
fossilisation the fossil could have been broken or destroyed by Earth’s movements.


Q8(b) Attached
My answer Those isolated populations are not representative of the original population thus will have varying allele frequencies & if g allele is not present it won't get inserted unless gene flow occurs

VCAA answer: The Founder effect or population established from a few individuals which randomly results in different allele frequencies
depending upon the genotypes of the founding members or a Bottleneck or population reduced to a few individuals
randomly result in different allele frequencies or Genetic Drift, in a population there may be chance events which can cause
changes in allele frequencies and this has a greater potential impact on a small population.
Students who referred to the example given and mentioned what may happen if the founding members of a population
were all heterozygotes or alternatively all homozygotes(GG) were awarded full marks.


Thankyou
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on September 26, 2015, 04:21:10 pm
Okay so I did VCAA 2001 Unit 4 and have a few questions.

Q6(b)Identify one selection pressure which may occur in spring and explain how this selection pressure accounts for the difference in the frequency of the two differently coloured ladybird beetles
I identified the correct selection pressures---predators
I then said In the spring there may be predators that can more easily identify & find black beetles than red beetles thus they are more likely to be eaten by the predators thus population decreased i.e Perecentage of black beetles decrease

The model answer is:
Predators (e.g. birds) are the selection pressure and flowers present in spring which camouflage the red beetles from
predators. The black beetles are more obvious and are eaten by predators while the red beetles survive and reproduce or a
different predator is present in spring that eats black beetles in preference to the red beetles.

Did I have to suggest the presence of flowers?

Q7(b)(i) Give one possible reason why fossils of Archaeopteryx are rare:
My answer: It is a transitional species & fossil. Which would have existed for a short time period
VCAA answer: Archaeopteryx were not common or lived in area where conditions were unsuitable for fossilisation or only lived in a small region or the animal deteriorated before fossilisation.

Archaeopteryx were not common, hence they are transitional fossils/organisms and there were not many in the population that could have been fossilised. Your answer is correct.

(ii)Give one possible reason why some of the Archaeopteryx fossil are incomplete
My answer: they were not fully buried initially
VCAA answer: Before fossilisation the individual was partially eaten or decomposed or its bones were scattered by water/predators. After fossilisation the fossil could have been broken or destroyed by Earth’s movements.

Not being buried initially implies that they did not have the sufficient conditions to fossilise, or that because they took so long to be burried/deposited with layers of sediment, their remains were subject to decay/deterioration and hence disallowed them to fossilise. Your answer is correct but you could definitely expand on it, just because they were not fully burried, so what though? ^ 

Q8(b) Attached
My answer Those isolated populations are not representative of the original population thus will have varying allele frequencies & if g allele is not present it won't get inserted unless gene flow occurs

VCAA answer: The Founder effect or population established from a few individuals which randomly results in different allele frequencies depending upon the genotypes of the founding members or a Bottleneck or population reduced to a few individuals
randomly result in different allele frequencies or Genetic Drift, in a population there may be chance events which can cause
changes in allele frequencies and this has a greater potential impact on a small population.
Students who referred to the example given and mentioned what may happen if the founding members of a population
were all heterozygotes or alternatively all homozygotes(GG) were awarded full marks.


What do you mean by not representative of the original population? I would say that because the population size is much smaller, then any non-selective event, like genetic drift (bottle neck or founder effect) or even if like a massive draught hit the population, will reduce the allele frequency. You could also argue that because the Gg allele has a higher reproductive rate than the GG allele, then populations with the Gg allele will keep reproducing much quicker, hence the allele frequency will rise for the g allele, than populations dominated by the GG allele.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exams
Post by: Unblemished on September 28, 2015, 10:04:57 am
I wasn't doing too well always around 4 marks were barely accessible so I was getting around 60-65/75 but doing better on VCAA stuff

What do you guys reckon the cut-off will be for a 45?

Last year, an a+ for bio was 192/220 which is equivalent to requiring a 96/110 for low a+. So, this generally ranges from around the high 30s to low 40s. If you want a 45 raw, you need a relatively moderate to high a+. So aim for like 105/110. My friend got 107/110 and got a 47. This year's distribution is likely to change though due to the difficulty of the exam. 
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on September 28, 2015, 06:06:35 pm
When is everyone going to do the 2013-2014 exams?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thettywetty on September 28, 2015, 06:33:21 pm
When is everyone going to do the 2013-2014 exams?
In the few days before the actual exam
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on September 29, 2015, 03:19:09 pm
ive done the 2013 exam and i think il do it another 5 times until the actual exam lol
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on September 29, 2015, 10:52:26 pm
ive done the 2013 exam and i think il do it another 5 times until the actual exam lol

What did you get
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on September 30, 2015, 03:34:18 pm
Who has done the 2015 insight exam. How did you find it?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on September 30, 2015, 06:26:53 pm
Who has done the 2015 insight exam. How did you find it?

Will do it soon
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on September 30, 2015, 06:28:35 pm
NEAP exams are the hardest by far. Feel like anything 80+ is good on them
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on September 30, 2015, 06:54:01 pm
Just did VCAA Unit 4 2002, kinda weird exam, some extremely tough questions and some extremely easy questions.
Can someone explain question 19

Question 19
The common evolutionary ancestry of many organisms is reflected by a geographic distribution consistent with the former supercontinent Gondwanaland.

An example of this is the distributions of
A. parastacid crayfish in South America, New Zealand, Australia and New Guinea.
B. bears in North and South America, Europe and Asia.
C. flying foxes in Australia, Asia, Africa and Europe.
D. mockingbirds in South and North America

Answer is A I said B

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on September 30, 2015, 07:52:30 pm
Just did VCAA Unit 4 2002, kinda weird exam, some extremely tough questions and some extremely easy questions.
I got 68/75, lost 1 mark on MC for question 19, and lost 2 whole stupid marks on linked gene notation.

Has any one else done this exam, how did you go?
Are there grade distributions available for pre-2006?
Also has anyone done stuff from before 2006 and after 2006 If so how do they compare?

Can someone explain question 19

Question 19
The common evolutionary ancestry of many organisms is reflected by a geographic distribution consistent with the former supercontinent Gondwanaland.

An example of this is the distributions of
A. parastacid crayfish in South America, New Zealand, Australia and New Guinea.
B. bears in North and South America, Europe and Asia.
C. flying foxes in Australia, Asia, Africa and Europe.
D. mockingbirds in South and North America

Answer is A I said B

The supercontinent that existed was known as Pangaea broke into the continents of Laurasia and Gondwana. Gondwana composed of Australia, Antartica, India, New Zealand whereas Laurasia broke into the northern  hemisphere (modern) such as Asia, so B could not be correct.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 02, 2015, 06:15:07 pm
The supercontinent that existed was known as Pangaea broke into the continents of Laurasia and Gondwana. Gondwana composed of Australia, Antartica, India, New Zealand whereas Laurasia broke into the northern  hemisphere (modern) such as Asia, so B could not be correct.

I just did 2002 VCAA. It was so easy.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 02, 2015, 08:05:58 pm
I just did 2002 VCAA. It was so easy.

What did you get? Going to do it now :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 02, 2015, 08:16:43 pm
What did you get? Going to do it now :)

92%. There are some irrelevant questions on the unit 4. Haven't done unit 3
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 02, 2015, 08:18:41 pm
92%. There are some irrelevant questions on the unit 4. Haven't done unit 3

Did you do the irrelevant ones?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 03, 2015, 03:42:27 pm
Did you do the irrelevant ones?

Yes
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 03, 2015, 11:46:12 pm
If you want to have a go at one of the harder VCAA papers do Unit 4 2003 it's probably comparable to Unit 3 2006 (A+ cut-off 54/75) my estimated A+ cut-off for Unit 4 2003 probably around 55-57/75.

Can anyone provide an extremely rule for how many marks you need to be above the A+ cut-off to get a 45?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 04, 2015, 01:07:32 am
If you want to have a go at one of the harder VCAA papers do Unit 4 2003 it's probably comparable to Unit 3 2006 (A+ cut-off 54/75) my estimated A+ cut-off for Unit 4 2003 probably around 55-57/75.

Can anyone provide a extremely rule for how many marks you need to be above the A+ cut-off to get a 45?

An 87% on last years exam with good SAC's got you a high 40. I just checked, the A+ cutoff for 2006 was 60.5 (121/150)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 04, 2015, 01:18:18 pm
An 87% on last years exam with good SAC's got you a high 40. I just checked, the A+ cutoff for 2006 was 60.5 (121/150)
Really I thought 87% would just scrape a 40 as it only got a very low A+; what do you mean by high 40? Do you have any specific examples?
A+ for Unit 3 was 54/75(108/150)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 04, 2015, 02:39:29 pm
Really I thought 87% would just scrape a 40 as it only got a very low A+; what do you mean by high 40? Do you have any specific examples?
A+ for Unit 3 was 54/75(108/150)

An 87% would be 43+ most years assuming good sac marks
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 04, 2015, 02:53:42 pm
An 87% would be 43+ most years assuming good sac marks
yeah most years stuff like 65/75+65/75(around 87%) would be 43+ by experience I think closer to 44-45, but in the last year it definitely wasn't, really weird year last year with extremely high cut-off(possibly because it was a easier exam and fairly marked).

I think exams in the new SD are easier/more fairly marked overall as averages have increased from ~50-53% to ~55-59% as well as A+ cut-offs.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 04, 2015, 03:13:58 pm
yeah most years stuff like 65/75+65/75(around 87%) would be 43+ by experience I think closer to 44-45, but in the last year it definitely wasn't, really weird year last year with extremely high cut-off(possibly because it was a easier exam and fairly marked).

I think exams in the new SD are easier/more fairly marked overall as averages have increased from ~50-53% to ~55-59% as well as A+ cut-offs.

True, the cutoff last year was 87%, must have been extremely easy
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 04, 2015, 04:32:52 pm
Has anyone done the 2014 paper?

I am doing it tonight xD
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 04, 2015, 04:36:54 pm
Has anyone done the 2014 paper?

I am doing it tonight xD

Too early do it for me
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 04, 2015, 04:46:07 pm
Has anyone done the 2014 paper?

I am doing it tonight xD
Nope, I'm going to do it with roughly a week to go.
Let us know how you go, BTW have you done 2013?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 04, 2015, 05:39:47 pm
Nope, I'm going to do it with roughly a week to go.
Let us know how you go, BTW have you done 2013?

Nah I havent done that yet. Maybe Ill do that instead?

Will let you guys know
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 04, 2015, 11:58:10 pm
Unit 3 from before 2006 are completely different.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: joystar on October 06, 2015, 10:54:56 pm
How many practice exams has everyone done so far?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 06, 2015, 11:14:51 pm
How many practice exams has everyone done so far?

A lot
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on October 08, 2015, 04:21:19 pm
Has anyone done the 2014 paper?

I am doing it tonight xD
What result did you get?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: sunshine98 on October 10, 2015, 03:37:54 pm
have any of you done 2015 TSSM? Is TSSM, in general  hard or easy?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on October 10, 2015, 03:41:24 pm
have any of you done 2015 TSSM? Is TSSM, in general  hard or easy?
I haven't done the 2015 TSSM, but from the other TSSM papers I've done, I can say that they're generally pretty easy.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 10, 2015, 06:45:36 pm
Does anyone happen to have solutions for 2008 INSIGHT unit 4 exam??
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 10, 2015, 06:48:23 pm
Has anyone done VCAA 97 U4?  I got 72/75 but gave myself a mark for q 4b because i disagree with the answer they gave  ???

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 10, 2015, 07:14:36 pm
Has anyone done VCAA 97 U4?  I got 72/75 but gave myself a mark for q 4b because i disagree with the answer they gave  ???

Yeah 97 was easy
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 10, 2015, 07:17:06 pm
Yeah 97 was easy

is 98 easy as well?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 10, 2015, 07:33:19 pm
is 98 easy as well?

98 was harder than 97. Most people say that 97-99 are a lot harder than recent ones
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 10, 2015, 08:48:50 pm
How did you guys go on VCAA 2008 I got:

Unit 3[70/75]    A+[62.5/75]
Unit 4[64/75]    A+[56.5/75]

7.5 marks over the A+ cut-off on both XD, IMO Unit 4 was very tough, probably had to compensate for how easy Unit 3 was.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 10, 2015, 09:23:30 pm
How did you guys go on VCAA 2008 I got:

Unit 3[70/75]    A+[62.5/75]
Unit 4[64/75]    A+[56.5/75]

7.5 marks over the A+ cut-off on both XD, IMO Unit 4 was very tough, probably had to compensate for how easy Unit 3 was.

Yeah apparently 2008 is the easiest out of all of them
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 10, 2015, 10:16:24 pm
Yeah apparently 2008 is the easiest out of all of them

Dude if they're all so easy hope you get a 50  :P
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on October 10, 2015, 10:26:07 pm
So i see a trend in the A+ cutoffs. They are gradually increasing every year.

Do you guys think this is because the biology cohort is becoming more 'smarter' or that the exams are just becoming easier?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 10, 2015, 10:36:38 pm
So i see a trend in the A+ cutoffs. They are gradually increasing every year.

Do you guys think this is because the biology cohort is becoming more 'smarter' or that the exams are just becoming easier?
If they were getting smarter it would starting scaling up more; like +2 or +3.

It's just getting easier, there are less probing questions or definitions, there are more answers you can synthesise on the spot.

Honestly, I think harder exams are better because stupid errors don't count as much then but seeing as last years exam was one of the easiest I think this years will be closer to the 2013 difficulty.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: heids on October 10, 2015, 10:43:44 pm
Honestly, I think harder exams are better because stupid errors don't count as much then but seeing as last years exam was one of the easiest I think this years will be closer to the 2013 difficulty.

Did you find 2013 hard ????  I found it the easiest of all the VCAAs I did, and I thought (maybe it's bias from having actually sat it) that 2014 was a bit harder.  I'd hope 2015 is harder, however, to compare with ones like 2006.  Though I feel the 'difficulty' of company exams (which go way out of what VCAA ever said they'd test you on) can sometimes make VCAA exams feel easy.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 10, 2015, 10:47:52 pm
Has anyone done VCAA 97 U4?  I got 72/75 but gave myself a mark for q 4b because i disagree with the answer they gave  ???

Your score is beast! I got 69/75 for that one I think, or maybe it was 98 I honestly can't remember but it was definitely one of them.
Good job!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 10, 2015, 11:08:50 pm
Your score is beast! I got 69/75 for that one I think, or maybe it was 98 I honestly can't remember but it was definitely one of them.
Good job!

Do you rememeber how to do 4b? I can't tell if I would've got the mark or not
And thanks yours is pretty good too!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 10, 2015, 11:20:42 pm
Did you find 2013 hard ????  I found it the easiest of all the VCAAs I did, and I thought (maybe it's bias from having actually sat it) that 2014 was a bit harder.  I'd hope 2015 is harder, however, to compare with ones like 2006.  Though I feel the 'difficulty' of company exams (which go way out of what VCAA ever said they'd test you on) can sometimes make VCAA exams feel easy.
I haven't done 2013 yet just speculation.(A+ cut-offs) do you remember what you got on it, it really doesn't matter how easy or hard it is if everyone performs equally well on both but harder exams give you a little more room for stupid errors.

I don't think VCAA is going to want another exam with a A+ cutoff of 72% but also last years you could lose roughly 2 marks for a 50.



Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 10, 2015, 11:29:55 pm
I haven't done 2013 yet just speculation.(A+ cut-offs) do you remember what you got on it, it really doesn't matter how easy or hard it is if everyone performs equally well on both but harder exams give you a little more room for stupid errors.

I don't think VCAA is going to want another exam with a A+ cutoff of 72% but also last years you could lose roughly 2 marks for a 50.

The difficulty of the exam depend on the results of the previous year
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 10, 2015, 11:30:41 pm
Dude if they're all so easy hope you get a 50  :P

Haha. Hope so
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 11, 2015, 10:10:35 am
From this AN's cohort, who do you think is going to get a 50?

Without question I nominate:
1. Biology24123
2. Sine
3. Bruzzix
4. Warya

I would nominate BakedDwarf but I need to see more questions on the thread from you brah! xD
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 11, 2015, 10:21:48 am
I will definitely not get a 50, I'm not rank one and  I think my 97 exam score was a fluke hahah
You will though!!!!!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Jay.C on October 11, 2015, 12:58:36 pm
From this AN's cohort, who do you think is going to get a 50?

Without question I nominate:
1. Biology24123
2. Sine
3. Bruzzix
4. Warya

I would nominate BakedDwarf but I need to see more questions on the thread from you brah! xD

I nominate you cosine! #cosineiscoming
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Rishi97 on October 11, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
From this AN's cohort, who do you think is going to get a 50?

EVERYONE!!!! :p
2015 AN cohort is gonna smash it! Good luck guys!!!! :D
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 11, 2015, 03:21:52 pm
EVERYONE!!!! :p
2015 AN cohort is gonna smash it! Good luck guys!!!! :D

Cheers haha

Keep working guys, we are almost there.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: TwinNerd on October 11, 2015, 03:33:11 pm
anyone done the STAV 2015 unit 3 and 4 exam? I thought was relatively ok, i'm surprised about how straightforward it was apart from one question about pregnancy testing which took a while to get but overall not hard i think.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: TwinNerd on October 11, 2015, 03:39:22 pm
do you guys think it's too late to be doing commercial exams and that I should focus on doing vcaa exam?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 11, 2015, 04:22:07 pm
do you guys think it's too late to be doing commercial exams and that I should focus on doing vcaa exam?

I'm doing all the VCAA ones as a priority, then moving on to commercial
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 11, 2015, 04:57:36 pm
anyone done the STAV 2015 unit 3 and 4 exam? I thought was relatively ok, i'm surprised about how straightforward it was apart from one question about pregnancy testing which took a while to get but overall not hard i think.

Yeah I did it on Wednesday. That pregnancy question was so annoying
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 11, 2015, 05:27:11 pm
anyone done the STAV 2015 unit 3 and 4 exam? I thought was relatively ok, i'm surprised about how straightforward it was apart from one question about pregnancy testing which took a while to get but overall not hard i think.

I made horrible mistakes in the multiple choice, got 35/39 ( we removed one of the questions)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 11, 2015, 06:19:21 pm
From this AN's cohort, who do you think is going to get a 50?
1.cosine #cosineiscoming #cosinefor99,95
I will definitely not get a 50, I'm not rank one and  I think my 97 exam score was a fluke hahah
You will though!!!!!
wasn't your 97 exam score like 72/75 that's the top of the state.XD
do you guys think it's too late to be doing commercial exams and that I should focus on doing vcaa exam?
If your in year twelve just do VCAA papers and nothing else, if your are in eleven maybe do some if you want to. Usually if I only have like 30-60mins I just do parts of company papers and come back to it later.
EVERYONE!!!! :p
2015 AN cohort is gonna smash it! Good luck guys!!!! :D
Thankyou!

What are you guys going to be doing around a week to go(or after you have completed all VCAA papers)?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 11, 2015, 06:25:45 pm

Thankyou!

What are you guys going to be doing around a week to go(or after you have completed all VCAA papers)?

Hopefully all combined 3/4 VCAA exams will be left for the last week as well as some 2015 company exams
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Unblemished on October 11, 2015, 06:29:40 pm
You should smash VCAA out now because those are the ones that will be most representative of the 2015 exam. After you do them, do trial papers.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 11, 2015, 07:38:44 pm
Yeah I did it on Wednesday. That pregnancy question was so annoying

Pregnancy one was alright?

I think the most annoying part of STAV 2015 was MC, some were very irrelevant and ambiguous101

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 11, 2015, 09:03:13 pm
Pregnancy one was alright?

I think the most annoying part of STAV 2015 was MC, some were very irrelevant and ambiguous101

Yeah. I think that pregnancy one was the only hard short answer question.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on October 11, 2015, 11:00:06 pm
I haven't done any VCAA papers for a while. Mainly because I've done all the questions from 2006-2012 from checkpoints. Is it worth doing the papers and going over the same questions again?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 11, 2015, 11:21:16 pm
I haven't done any VCAA papers for a while. Mainly because I've done all the questions from 2006-2012 from checkpoints. Is it worth doing the papers and going over the same questions again?

It's probably worth it. Not all questions would have been in checkpoints
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 12, 2015, 09:37:49 pm
Did anyone do 2007 exam for unit 4.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 12, 2015, 09:41:58 pm
Did anyone do 2007 exam for unit 4.

Yes I did, want to know my score?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 12, 2015, 09:46:16 pm
Yes I did, want to know my score?

It was a lot harder than unit 3 I found
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: katiesaliba on October 12, 2015, 10:08:43 pm
I haven't done any VCAA papers for a while. Mainly because I've done all the questions from 2006-2012 from checkpoints. Is it worth doing the papers and going over the same questions again?

If you have time, then most definitely. VCAA bio markers are very pedantic about the wording of answers. You'll want to try and adhere as much as possible to their suggested answers.  :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 10:40:07 pm
What did you get on 2006 unit 4
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 13, 2015, 10:46:22 pm
What did you get on 2006 unit 4

69/75 i got for both units that year
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 10:50:19 pm
69/75 i got for both units that year

That's good
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 13, 2015, 10:54:45 pm
That's good

You gonna tell me yours or? haha
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 10:57:00 pm
You gonna tell me yours or? haha

Didn't do unit 3 but 70/75 in unit 4. Need to work on evolution. It's my worst
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on October 13, 2015, 11:16:45 pm
What are you guys averaging for vcaa exams? I'm getting around 87ish% should I be worried?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 11:21:08 pm
What are you guys averaging for vcaa exams? I'm getting around 87ish% should I be worried?

Why would you be worried?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on October 13, 2015, 11:23:21 pm
I feel like I should be getting higher marks

Like the specificity kills
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 11:24:56 pm
I feel like I should be getting higher marks

Like the specificity kills

Unless you are going for a 50 then 87 is good. It would get 45+ study score this year
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on October 13, 2015, 11:30:06 pm
Really? My sacs according to grade distributions would be A for u3 and A+ for u4; if I get around 87% for the exam, will it guarantee me a 45+?

Im redoing vcaa because they're pretty much going to repeat the same concepts but make it harder this year :P

Guys, vcaa hasn't asked much about stem cells in the past few years, so it's better to study those concepts well!
I was planning to make a list of all the things they haven't asked us in the past few years, so that we can prepare for those. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 11:36:44 pm
Really? My sacs according to grade distributions would be A for u3 and A+ for u4; if I get around 87% for the exam, will it guarantee me a 45+?

Im redoing vcaa because they're pretty much going to repeat the same concepts but make it harder this year :P

Guys, vcaa hasn't asked much about stem cells in the past few years, so it's better to study those concepts well!
I was planning to make a list of all the things they haven't asked us in the past few years, so that we can prepare for those. What do you guys think?

Good idea. How do you know your grades
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: chemzy on October 13, 2015, 11:45:31 pm
Grade distributions 2014 would be similar to this year's one. Scroll down of the grade distributions PDF and it says 'coursework 3/4' . It'll tell you your grade for your average sac percentage :)

I just want a 45+ then I'll be happy :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 13, 2015, 11:57:09 pm
Grade distributions 2014 would be similar to this year's one. Scroll down of the grade distributions PDF and it says 'coursework 3/4' . It'll tell you your grade for your average sac percentage :)

I just want a 45+ then I'll be happy :)

It doesn't work like that. it's based on SAC rankings because everyone has different SAC's
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 14, 2015, 04:51:17 pm
Wait you only need 87% for a 45+?!?!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 14, 2015, 04:52:42 pm
fml my teacher made us do 2014 MC in class today, great..
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 14, 2015, 04:54:19 pm
fml my teacher made us do 2014 MC in class today, great..

Try having to do all of 2014 as a trial exam today, I'm only up to 2006 don't make me do this now  :'(

You have to draw like 5 antibodies and it was honestly the hardest thing
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 14, 2015, 05:46:27 pm
Try having to do all of 2014 as a trial exam today, I'm only up to 2006 don't make me do this now  :'(

You have to draw like 5 antibodies and it was honestly the hardest thing

Not sure if you're being serious haha?

I got 38/40 for the MC guys, not sure if this is even good..? Is this even 40 worthy? I mean losing 2 marks on MC, leaving me only 12 marks on the SA to lose.. Anyone else done the 2014 paper?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 14, 2015, 05:50:49 pm
I'm not joking haha! Not sure about the antibodies but the rest of it was pretty okay. I noticed it was very different from previous years' papers- less regurgitation of pre learned definitions and much more unfamiliar scenarios. Have a crack, its too late to be worried about saving them I guess, I'm kinda glad to have done it now

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: heids on October 14, 2015, 05:56:37 pm
Not sure if you're being serious haha?

I got 38/40 for the MC guys, not sure if this is even good..? Is this even 40 worthy? I mean losing 2 marks on MC, leaving me only 12 marks on the SA to lose.. Anyone else done the 2014 paper?

Just so you know, as far as I remember from checking my answers after the exam, I got 38 last year too.

I promise you.  I was as ignorant as hell last year.  still am  But I felt fairly 45-ish back then, because I hadn't been on this forum - and compared to everyone else I could see, I was doing fine.  This forum tends to assume that you need full marks or ridiculous knowledge levels to score mid-40s marks - it's honestly not true!  This feeling comes because everyone who's posting on this site is like top 2-5% material, and not representative of the real population.

And yes, for 99% of people, lots of the 2014 questions were hard.  It may be easy for you, but that's coz you're a super-rare case :P
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 14, 2015, 06:09:58 pm
I'm not joking haha! Not sure about the antibodies but the rest of it was pretty okay. I noticed it was very different from previous years' papers- less regurgitation of pre learned definitions and much more unfamiliar scenarios. Have a crack, its too late to be worried about saving them I guess, I'm kinda glad to have done it now

I didn't mean the exam was easy haha, I haven't done the SA yet, doing it tomorrow in class so exam conditions. I just was questioning the antibodies, how could that be hard? Sorry, let me rephrase that it sounds mean xD Why did you find drawing the antibodies hard? Was it a trick question or??

Just so you know, as far as I remember from checking my answers after the exam, I got 38 last year too.

I promise you.  I was as ignorant as hell last year.  still am  But I felt fairly 45-ish back then, because I hadn't been on this forum - and compared to everyone else I could see, I was doing fine.  This forum tends to assume that you need full marks or ridiculous knowledge levels to score mid-40s marks - it's honestly not true!  This feeling comes because everyone who's posting on this site is like top 2-5% material, and not representative of the real population.

And yes, for 99% of people, lots of the 2014 questions were hard.  It may be easy for you, but that's coz you're a super-rare case :P

Nice! Do you know what questions you lost the marks on? I posted mine on the bio thread so if you see them you might remember if you also found those two difficult? Also if you don't mind me asking, what sac average did you have, and what rank were you? Just for the sake of everyone here who also dreams of getting 45 like you did, do you know how many marks you lost in total on the exam? Also did you find it harder than usual?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 14, 2015, 06:15:00 pm
I don't even know they were just hard to draw maybe I'm just deranged haha, you will see when you do it. good luck!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: heids on October 14, 2015, 07:29:10 pm
I didn't mean the exam was easy haha, I haven't done the SA yet, doing it tomorrow in class so exam conditions. I just was questioning the antibodies, how could that be hard? Sorry, let me rephrase that it sounds mean xD Why did you find drawing the antibodies hard? Was it a trick question or??

Nice! Do you know what questions you lost the marks on? I posted mine on the bio thread so if you see them you might remember if you also found those two difficult? Also if you don't mind me asking, what sac average did you have, and what rank were you? Just for the sake of everyone here who also dreams of getting 45 like you did, do you know how many marks you lost in total on the exam? Also did you find it harder than usual?

Cheers.

I do indeed remember.  Lost marks on the geological time scale question, and the flamingoes (both easy questions, just... well don't know, timed conditions do that to you).  And yes, though I found the potassium one you posted hard, I did figure it out.

SAC average - I was at DECV, had like a 94% average (super easy SACs) and was rank 1 because it was a pretty bad cohort - only one other from the cohort got 40+ (40 from memory).  No clue of my SA marks on the exam... I found it pretty similar to others, easier than 2006/early in the last study design, but harder than 2013.

You'll have absolutely no problem getting a 45, cosine.  Unless you have some hidden sections of the course you know nothing about.  Keep studying for the higher 40s!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 14, 2015, 08:20:23 pm
The front cover and exam materials have now been released for all 2015 VCE exams:

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/exams/examcovers/2015examindex.aspx
Check out Biology.

11 SA questions as opposed to 12 in 2013 & 2014.

Total exam is 45 pages long as opposed to 41 pages in both 2013 & 2014. More diagrams? More text?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 14, 2015, 10:15:02 pm
I do indeed remember.  Lost marks on the geological time scale question, and the flamingoes (both easy questions, just... well don't know, timed conditions do that to you).  And yes, though I found the potassium one you posted hard, I did figure it out.

SAC average - I was at DECV, had like a 94% average (super easy SACs) and was rank 1 because it was a pretty bad cohort - only one other from the cohort got 40+ (40 from memory).  No clue of my SA marks on the exam... I found it pretty similar to others, easier than 2006/early in the last study design, but harder than 2013.

You'll have absolutely no problem getting a 45, cosine.  Unless you have some hidden sections of the course you know nothing about.  Keep studying for the higher 40s!

People underestimate how a big an achievement a 40 is in any subject
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 14, 2015, 10:15:33 pm
Check out Biology.

11 SA questions as opposed to 12 in 2013 & 2014.

Total exam is 45 pages long as opposed to 41 pages in both 2013 & 2014. More diagrams? More text?

Really wouldn't read much into that
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 14, 2015, 10:29:24 pm
Kind of annoyed I lost some marks in multiple choice for 2014 but luckily the SA wasn't hard
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on October 14, 2015, 11:21:53 pm
Uhh, when should I be doing the VCAA 2013/2014 exams? They're the only VCAA ones i've got left

Considering everyone here has basically done them, should i do them or wait a few days before the actual exam (this is what i was considering)?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 14, 2015, 11:24:52 pm
Uhh, when should I be doing the VCAA 2013/2014 exams? They're the only VCAA ones i've got left

Considering everyone here has basically done them, should i do them or wait a few days before the actual exam (this is what i was considering)?

Wait till a week before a reckon. I only did it now because it was set by my school
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: heids on October 15, 2015, 03:59:37 pm
People underestimate how a big an achievement a 40 is in any subject

Okay, yeah, I fully agree. Interestingly, AN has two dichotomous but co-existing problems: a) saying '40 is piss easy and everyone can easily get it' (RUBBISH!!!), and b) thinking that to get a high score you need to know LOADS of information (like the belief that 38/40 can't get a 40+ score, or that you need to know respiration or transcription or photosynthesis in heaapppps of detail).  I'm against both mindsets.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 15, 2015, 04:04:06 pm
Okay, yeah, I fully agree. Interestingly, AN has two dichotomous but co-existing problems: a) saying '40 is piss easy and everyone can easily get it' (RUBBISH!!!), and b) thinking that to get a high score you need to know LOADS of information (like the belief that 38/40 can't get a 40+ score, or that you need to know respiration or transcription or photosynthesis in heaapppps of detail).  I'm against both mindsets.

If proteins require DNA to be synthesised, and DNA requires proteins to be expressed, for VCE Biol, do we need to know which molecule God created first?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: heids on October 15, 2015, 04:20:23 pm
If proteins require DNA to be synthesised, and DNA requires proteins to be expressed, for VCE Biol, do we need to know which molecule God created first?

Here you have (one of) my problem(s) with the theory of evolution...

But no.  God is most definitely not on the study design ;)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: sunshine98 on October 15, 2015, 04:40:24 pm
How did everyone find 2012 unit 4 VCAA exam?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 15, 2015, 04:44:21 pm
How did everyone find 2012 unit 4 exam?

Ridiculously difficult. I lost 6 marks on a SINGLE question about the gene cloning, never been so disheartened before..
And that define homologous chromosomes question, I said they are chromosomes that are found in pairs, one from the paternal and maternal line, but now I know that the proper definition is that homologous chromosomes are chromosomes that come in pairs and have identical gene loci, but may possess different alleles for the genes. The MC was not bad, think I lost just one mark, but definitely made up for it on the SA part..

How did you find it?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: sunshine98 on October 15, 2015, 04:57:49 pm
Ridiculously difficult. I lost 6 marks on a SINGLE question about the gene cloning, never been so disheartened before..
And that define homologous chromosomes question, I said they are chromosomes that are found in pairs, one from the paternal and maternal line, but now I know that the proper definition is that homologous chromosomes are chromosomes that come in pairs and have identical gene loci, but may possess different alleles for the genes. The MC was not bad, think I lost just one mark, but definitely made up for it on the SA part..

How did you find it?
I don't remember a gene cloning question...?
I think you're talking about a different exam, cause I found this one on the easier side.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 05:01:38 pm
What did everyone get for 2014. Our teacher marked it so harshly
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 15, 2015, 05:50:36 pm
What did everyone get for 2014. Our teacher marked it so harshly

I got 99/110 and yeah  so did our teacher, e.g. For the last  wooly mammoth question the examiner report suggested that u could've said allopatric speciation or speciation, I went with speciation but my teacher took 2 marks off  ???

Definetely room for improvement regardless, some very silly mistakes like mitochondria is the site of anaerobic respiration wtf haha
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 06:18:04 pm
I got 99/110 and yeah  so did our teacher, e.g. For the last  wooly mammoth question the examiner report suggested that u could've said allopatric speciation or speciation, I went with speciation but my teacher took 2 marks off  ???

Definetely room for improvement regardless, some very silly mistakes like mitochondria is the site of anaerobic respiration wtf haha

For PCR I wrote that it needs to be repeated. I lost a mark because it need to be repeated "many times"
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 06:19:49 pm
I got 99/110 and yeah  so did our teacher, e.g. For the last  wooly mammoth question the examiner report suggested that u could've said allopatric speciation or speciation, I went with speciation but my teacher took 2 marks off  ???

Definetely room for improvement regardless, some very silly mistakes like mitochondria is the site of anaerobic respiration wtf haha

I got 1/2 marks for a lot of question which is annoying and lost 4 in MC. Lots of areas to improve
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 15, 2015, 06:23:49 pm
I got 1/2 marks for a lot of question which is annoying and lost 4 in MC. Lots of areas to improve

I lost marks on the antigen-antibody complex question, I said that is attracts phagocytes to the site of infection but apparently I should've said 'attracts phagocytes to area so they can engulf pathogen'
Specificity will be the death of me haha

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 15, 2015, 06:24:57 pm
I got 1/2 marks for a lot of question which is annoying and lost 4 in MC. Lots of areas to improve
dont even worry, those MC were a joke, far out..
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 15, 2015, 06:32:47 pm
dont even worry, those MC were a joke, far out..
I agree I got 37/40 that phylogeny tree graph thing at the end  >:(
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 15, 2015, 06:38:34 pm
I agree I got 37/40 that phylogeny tree graph thing at the end  >:(

Not even, that bloody plant and motor cells question... okay then.. and also the second last question, how does tools and fireplaces help with socialism?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 06:54:07 pm
Not even, that bloody plant and motor cells question... okay then.. and also the second last question, how does tools and fireplaces help with socialism?

Haha that plant question. Got that one
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 08:38:02 pm
I'm just wondering, if 87% was last years cut off, does that mean 87% would have been around a low 40's SS
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Jay.C on October 15, 2015, 09:29:09 pm
Sooooooooo how many practice exams has everyone done so far? and how many are you aiming to complete?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: THEBEAST on October 15, 2015, 09:55:01 pm
What did people get on 2008 VCAA unit 4?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 15, 2015, 10:16:06 pm
Sooooooooo how many practice exams has everyone done so far? and how many are you aiming to complete?

14 but I hope to do a least 15 more
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: foodieisanunderstatement on October 15, 2015, 10:56:21 pm
does anyone know how much above the A+ cut off you have to be to get 45 or above? Like whats considered a "moderate" A+ and "high" A+.. also how do you improve exam question answering skills? I have done quite a few practice exams (including vcaa and other commercial exams) already and aim to continue doing them until the exam, after each practice exam I go through all the questions I got wrong/were unsure of and write them down but I'm still struggling with answering questions concisely and specifically..  :-\ or i don't know what exactly they want.. How do you approach short answer questions?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 15, 2015, 11:00:09 pm
How is everyone scoring on their practice exams?
i'm scoring around 85% on average, need to improve this to 90+
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 16, 2015, 04:48:12 pm
Does anyone have a clear image of the diagram on page 28 of the STAV 2015 exam? My teacher photocopied the exam for me but it is unclear.
(i don't think this is really sharing copyrighted material?)

How did everyone go on the 2013 MC?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: katiesaliba on October 17, 2015, 06:15:32 pm
dont even worry, those MC were a joke, far out..

Hey, the MC section on the 2014 exam wasn't that bad  :P

Can I give you guys a tip? I did the bio exam last year, scoring 40/40 on MC and who knows what on the SA...but I only received a SS of 43. So, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU TRY AND EMULATE VCAA'S SUGGESTED ANSWERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! I remember being so incredibly disappointed when I received my results, and I know that had I followed VCAA's answers exactly, then I would have been much happier :P You guys are lucky enough to have a thread where someone has posted VCAA definitions, so make sure that you use it ;) All the best, guys! xoxo
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: katiesaliba on October 17, 2015, 06:17:31 pm
I'm just wondering, if 87% was last years cut off, does that mean 87% would have been around a low 40's SS

If 87% was the A+ cut-off, then receiving 87% would've given you a SS around 40.  :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: sunshine98 on October 17, 2015, 07:23:25 pm
so I just did 2004 VCAA (I know , kinda late but my school forced us to do random ones earlier and now am just trying to fill gaps. )
and there are soooo many questions I was unable to do. So I 've got questions:
- insulin is not on course, right?
-do I need to know microgilia and ependymal?
- do we need to know microscopic units and can anyone provide a run down of which ones we need to know? 
thanks  :)

 
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 17, 2015, 07:31:12 pm
so I just did 2004 VCAA (I know , kinda late but my school forced us to do random ones earlier and now am just trying to fill gaps. )
and there are soooo many questions I was unable to do. So I 've got questions:
- insulin is not on course, right?
-do I need to know microgilia and ependymal?
- do we need to know microscopic units and can anyone provide a run down of which ones we need to know? 
thanks  :)

Pretty sure you don't need to know any of those things
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 17, 2015, 08:28:05 pm
I just finished the 2013 Biology exam, has anyone else done it?

I was wondering if someone was willing to cross mark with me? I will mark yours and you mark mine, because the assessors report are a bit here and there... Anyone up for it? Let me know

+ also share tips and maybe learn from each other's mistakes?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grannysmith on October 17, 2015, 08:49:08 pm
I just finished the 2013 Biology exam, has anyone else done it?

I was wondering if someone was willing to cross mark with me? I will mark yours and you mark mine, because the assessors report are a bit here and there... Anyone up for it? Let me know

+ also share tips and maybe learn from each other's mistakes?
If you post your answers here I'm sure there'll be people willing to check :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: vox nihili on October 17, 2015, 09:02:19 pm
Just a word of advice, the more time you spend worrying about your study score the less time you get to study to make it better. Something that I did way too much of in VCE was try to predict my study score, when I could have just worked harder on improving it :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 17, 2015, 09:22:07 pm
Question 1 cii).

Name of input: ATP
Role: The ATP molecules are derived from the light-dependent stages and are used to provide energy for the light-independent reactions

My query: Would this obtain full marks? Because the answer has provides energy for the production of glucose, but I said provides energy for the light-independent reactions. The specificity is killing me.

Question 2c:

Describe what is meant by tertiary structure and quaternary protein structures:
Tertiary structure of a protein refers tot he R-Group interactions between amino acids within the same polypeptide chains resulting in a functional three dimensional shape, and the quaternary structure describes polypeptides with more than one polypeptide chain joined together.

My query: I don't know if this will get full marks. Is what I have said about tertiary structure correct?

Question 3ii).

Suggest how epinephrine can produce different responses in smooth muscle cells and liver cells:
The signal transduction pathways in muscle cells are different to that of the signal transduction pathways of liver cells.

My query: Answer just says the receptors are different, OR the secondary messengers are different. Is my answer correct though?

Question 5b:
Explain why the autoantibody test woudl be negative even though the genetic screen was positive:
The autoimmune disease may only be a cell-mediated disease with no involvement of antibodies and hence no autoantibodies. Cytotoxic T cells recognise the antigens presented on MHC Class I markers of these 'self' cells as non-self and hence destroy them via the degranulation of perforin and granzymes.

My query: Answer says something about the response and production taking a long time.. Is my answer correct though? So in other words can antibodies be produced to agglutinate our own self cells in autoimmune diseases?

Question 9b).
What is a gene pool?
A gene pool is the collection of all the genes and their respective alleles in a given population.

My query: The report only says collection of alleles and not genes. Is my definition correct or not?

Define genetic drift and bottleneck effect:
Genetic drift occurs when the allele frequencies of a gene pool of a population changes due to chance events that are non-selective

Bottleneck effect is a form of genetic drift where non-selective events such as natural disasters change the allele frequency and the resulting frequencies may not be a representative of the original population.

My query: These are worded differently from the assessors, what do you think, are these incorrect or not?

Thank you. 
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grannysmith on October 17, 2015, 09:51:22 pm
Question 1 cii).

Name of input: ATP
Role: The ATP molecules are derived from the light-dependent stages and are used to provide energy for the light-independent reactions

My query: Would this obtain full marks? Because the answer has provides energy for the production of glucose, but I said provides energy for the light-independent reactions. The specificity is killing me.

Question 2c:

Describe what is meant by tertiary structure and quaternary protein structures:
Tertiary structure of a protein refers tot he R-Group interactions between amino acids within the same polypeptide chains resulting in a functional three dimensional shape, and the quaternary structure describes polypeptides with more than one polypeptide chain joined together.

My query: I don't know if this will get full marks. Is what I have said about tertiary structure correct?

Question 3ii).

Suggest how epinephrine can produce different responses in smooth muscle cells and liver cells:
The signal transduction pathways in muscle cells are different to that of the signal transduction pathways of liver cells.

My query: Answer just says the receptors are different, OR the secondary messengers are different. Is my answer correct though?

Question 5b:
Explain why the autoantibody test woudl be negative even though the genetic screen was positive:
The autoimmune disease may only be a cell-mediated disease with no involvement of antibodies and hence no autoantibodies. Cytotoxic T cells recognise the antigens presented on MHC Class I markers of these 'self' cells as non-self and hence destroy them via the degranulation of perforin and granzymes.

My query: Answer says something about the response and production taking a long time.. Is my answer correct though? So in other words can antibodies be produced to agglutinate our own self cells in autoimmune diseases?

Question 9b).
What is a gene pool?
A gene pool is the collection of all the genes and their respective alleles in a given population.

My query: The report only says collection of alleles and not genes. Is my definition correct or not?

Define genetic drift and bottleneck effect:
Genetic drift occurs when the allele frequencies of a gene pool of a population changes due to chance events that are non-selective

Bottleneck effect is a form of genetic drift where non-selective events such as natural disasters change the allele frequency and the resulting frequencies may not be a representative of the original population.

My query: These are worded differently from the assessors, what do you think, are these incorrect or not?

Thank you.
1cii) Yeah that should be okay
2c) The main point about the tertiary structure is that it's the overall 3-d conformation of the protein due to a variety of intermolecular interactions which largely determines its function, so I think you've got it there.
3ii) That's valid.
5b) Hm.. not too sure about this one. Your reasoning is sound, but the fact that they specifically refer to the autoimmune disease as eliciting antibody production implies that this is a humoral response, not a cell-mediated one.
9b) That's alright because you mention their respective alleles

With regards to genetic drift/bottleneck effect, your definitions are okay; if they're merely worded differently then that's no problem.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 17, 2015, 10:04:14 pm
1cii) Yeah that should be okay
2c) The main point about the tertiary structure is that it's the overall 3-d conformation of the protein due to a variety of intermolecular interactions which largely determines its function, so I think you've got it there.
3ii) That's valid.
5b) Hm.. not too sure about this one. Your reasoning is sound, but the fact that they specifically refer to the autoimmune disease as eliciting antibody production implies that this is a humoral response, not a cell-mediated one.
9b) That's alright because you mention their respective alleles

With regards to genetic drift/bottleneck effect, your definitions are okay; if they're merely worded differently then that's no problem.

Thank you man, means a lot.

As for the 5b question, my answer could be partially correct but I just realised also that autoimmune disease certainly do involve the recognition of self cells as non-self, but this does not necessarily mean that ONLY cell-mediated immunity responds. Clearly as I just discovered over some research too, that Cytotoxic T cells can destroy the targeted cells via recognition of the self antigens presented on MHC I markers as non-self, OR the production of autoantibodies that agglutinate the self cells/tissue. This is all possible because of the activated T helper cells, which in turn release cytokines to activate BOTH cytotoxic and B cells.

However, this raises another issue at hand. During transplant rejection, why is it that only the cell-mediated response occurs? Why cannot antibodies be produced to agglutinate the non-self cells? Like sure there's non-self antigens presented on the MHC I of the organ transplant, but wouldn't the T helper cells be activated either way, and thus activate B and T cells?

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grannysmith on October 17, 2015, 10:34:11 pm
Thank you man, means a lot.

As for the 5b question, my answer could be partially correct but I just realised also that autoimmune disease certainly do involve the recognition of self cells as non-self, but this does not necessarily mean that ONLY cell-mediated immunity responds. Clearly as I just discovered over some research too, that Cytotoxic T cells can destroy the targeted cells via recognition of the self antigens presented on MHC I markers as non-self, OR the production of autoantibodies that agglutinate the self cells/tissue. This is all possible because of the activated T helper cells, which in turn release cytokines to activate BOTH cytotoxic and B cells.

However, this raises another issue at hand. During transplant rejection, why is it that only the cell-mediated response occurs? Why cannot antibodies be produced to agglutinate the non-self cells? Like sure there's non-self antigens presented on the MHC I of the organ transplant, but wouldn't the T helper cells be activated either way, and thus activate B and T cells?
Good question. You have to recall how the humoral response is activated - a B cell encounters a free-floating antigen to which it binds, et cetera. Is this possible in a transplant rejection? It may be, I'm not entirely sure myself, but I'd think that it's highly unlikely.

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 17, 2015, 10:45:48 pm
Good question. You have to recall how the humoral response is activated - a B cell encounters a free-floating antigen to which it binds, et cetera. Is this possible in a transplant rejection? It may be, I'm not entirely sure myself, but I'd think that it's highly unlikely.

hmm... that is a good theory, actually. It sorta makes sense, because you're right about B cells having to encounter the antigens and engulf them to present to T helper cells to be activated for proliferation.

Can someone confirm this, though? Just want to be 100%.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 17, 2015, 11:09:41 pm
If 87% was the A+ cut-off, then receiving 87% would've given you a SS around 40.  :)

I really don't want such an easy exam this year
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 18, 2015, 01:53:35 pm
Good question. You have to recall how the humoral response is activated - a B cell encounters a free-floating antigen to which it binds, et cetera. Is this possible in a transplant rejection? It may be, I'm not entirely sure myself, but I'd think that it's highly unlikely.

Possible, but not entirely sure about this. In a transplant, it is not just the organ that is transplanted, but its associated interstitial fluid and some plasma, which is bound to have protein molecules swimming around. Those protein molecules can so easily initiate a humoral immune response.

However, the actual cells (eg. liver cells in a liver transplant) will initiate a cell-mediated immune response for sure.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 18, 2015, 02:14:21 pm
Possible, but not entirely sure about this. In a transplant, it is not just the organ that is transplanted, but its associated interstitial fluid and some plasma, which is bound to have protein molecules swimming around. Those protein molecules can so easily initiate a humoral immune response.

However, the actual cells (eg. liver cells in a liver transplant) will initiate a cell-mediated immune response for sure.

Hi Thushan, thanks for replying.

So to be safe for VCE bio, should we just assume that in organ transplants, cell-mediated response should be concerned, but in autoimmune diseases, both humoral and cell-mediated responses take place?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 18, 2015, 02:51:27 pm
I'd say for transplant rejection it'd be a mixture of the humoral and cell-mediated immune responses, although it would be primarily a cell-mediated immune response, unless it was a blood transfusion that was incompatible in which case it'd be primarily humoral. For autoimmune diseases, it actually depends on the disease; some diseases are primarily to do with humoral immunity (we call this type II and type III hypersensitivity, an example is rheumatoid arthritis), other diseases are mediated primarily via the cell-mediated response (we call this type IV hypersensitivity, an example is type I diabetes).

In short say:
- transplant rejection: primarily cell-mediated immune response (exception is blood transfusion)
- autoimmune diseases: a mixture of humoral and cell mediated immune responses depending on the actual disease
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 18, 2015, 07:41:12 pm
Is everyone going to do the sample supplied by VCAA in 2013? it seems to comprise of mostly past questions with a few new ones I think?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on October 18, 2015, 08:32:33 pm
Is everyone going to do the sample supplied by VCAA in 2013? it seems to comprise of mostly past questions with a few new ones I think?

Can you link me it?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 18, 2015, 08:48:38 pm
Can you link me it?

Is this what you mean?

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/documents/vce/biology/biology-specs-samp-w.pdf

Just question from different exams combined
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 18, 2015, 10:09:48 pm
2008 unit 4 was pretty tough. Have you guys done it
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 18, 2015, 10:14:30 pm
2008 unit 4 was pretty tough. Have you guys done it
How did you go? It was a tough exam the A+ cut-off was [113/150] I think.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 18, 2015, 10:34:39 pm
How did you go? It was a tough exam the A+ cut-off was [113/150] I think.



Not great. 122/150
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 20, 2015, 06:38:13 pm
How do you guys go about removing stupid errors?(such as techniques to check answers)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 20, 2015, 08:59:37 pm
Have any of you guys done the Insight 2012 unit 4 exam?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 20, 2015, 09:08:37 pm
Have any of you guys done the Insight 2012 unit 4 exam?

Yes
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 21, 2015, 12:04:47 am
Can someone check whether I would be able to obtain any marks from these answers? All questions are from VCAA 2010 Unit 4

Q1(c)(ii) What is a key difference between a prokaryotic chromosome and a plasmid? 1 mark

 
My Answer: Prokaryotic chromosomes cannot be passed along between bacteria, plasmids can be passed from bacterium to bacterium.

VCAA answers: replicate independently of binary fission
                             can be used as vectors in genetic transformation.

Q3(c) Explain why the male is phenotypically normal in spite of carrying the translocation shown? 1 mark

My Answer: There is no loss of genetic material thus they can still synthesise appropriate proteins.

VCAA answer:The same genetic material is still present within the cell but in a different position.

Q3(e)(ii) Outline your reasoning (check exam Unit 4 2010) 1 mark

My answer: There are 4 possible permutation of chromosomes via independent assortment, only 1 way in which the normal chromosomes are on the same side. 1/2 chance of one normal chromosome being on one side & 1/2 chance of the other normal chromosome being on the same side i.e 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4

VCAA answer: For each homologous pair of chromosomes there are two choices of lining up. There are therefore four possibilities, of
which one combination has both normal (untranslocated) chromosomes.

Q4(b) What would you expect to happen to the shell thickness of the northern blue mussels over time? Explain your reasoning? 2 marks

My answer: I would expect the thickness to remain relatively constant as those mussels are not being subjected to a change in environment or change in selection pressures.

VCAA answer: Either of:
 no change in variation and due to crabs (selection pressure) not being present
 variation occurs due to a different selection pressure or gene flow with the Southern population.

Q5(b) Why was the inactivation of one of the centromeres a significant step in human evolution? 2 marks

My answer: It ensured that human chromosome 2 was able to line up as homologous pair of chromosomes in meiosis to produce gametes.

VCAA answer: Both of:
 the inactivation of one centromere enables meiosis/cell replication to occur
 gametes are able to be produced.

Q(b)(ii) Outline one disadvantage of a plantation of marula trees grown through marcotting compared to a natural population of marula trees 1 mark


My answer: This decreases genetic variation subsequently they are more likely to go extinct in changes of environment & changes of selection pressures.

VCAA answer: The lack of variety means that for example, should a disease occur, the resistance would be the same and may lead to
extinction.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on October 21, 2015, 07:33:59 am
Can someone check whether I would be able to obtain any marks from these answers? All questions are from VCAA 2010 Unit 4
I don't see why you would lose marks for any of those answers. They seem fine to me. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: vox nihili on October 21, 2015, 03:42:05 pm
Can someone check whether I would be able to obtain any marks from these answers? All questions are from VCAA 2010 Unit 4

Q1(c)(ii) What is a key difference between a prokaryotic chromosome and a plasmid? 1 mark

 
My Answer: Prokaryotic chromosomes cannot be passed along between bacteria, plasmids can be passed from bacterium to bacterium.

VCAA answers: replicate independently of binary fission
                             can be used as vectors in genetic transformation.

Q3(c) Explain why the male is phenotypically normal in spite of carrying the translocation shown? 1 mark

My Answer: There is no loss of genetic material thus they can still synthesise appropriate proteins.

VCAA answer:The same genetic material is still present within the cell but in a different position.

Q3(e)(ii) Outline your reasoning (check exam Unit 4 2010) 1 mark

My answer: There are 4 possible permutation of chromosomes via independent assortment, only 1 way in which the normal chromosomes are on the same side. 1/2 chance of one normal chromosome being on one side & 1/2 chance of the other normal chromosome being on the same side i.e 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4

VCAA answer: For each homologous pair of chromosomes there are two choices of lining up. There are therefore four possibilities, of
which one combination has both normal (untranslocated) chromosomes.

Q4(b) What would you expect to happen to the shell thickness of the northern blue mussels over time? Explain your reasoning? 2 marks

My answer: I would expect the thickness to remain relatively constant as those mussels are not being subjected to a change in environment or change in selection pressures.

VCAA answer: Either of:
 no change in variation and due to crabs (selection pressure) not being present
 variation occurs due to a different selection pressure or gene flow with the Southern population.

Q5(b) Why was the inactivation of one of the centromeres a significant step in human evolution? 2 marks

My answer: It ensured that human chromosome 2 was able to line up as homologous pair of chromosomes in meiosis to produce gametes.

VCAA answer: Both of:
 the inactivation of one centromere enables meiosis/cell replication to occur
 gametes are able to be produced.

Q(b)(ii) Outline one disadvantage of a plantation of marula trees grown through marcotting compared to a natural population of marula trees 1 mark


My answer: This decreases genetic variation subsequently they are more likely to go extinct in changes of environment & changes of selection pressures.

VCAA answer: The lack of variety means that for example, should a disease occur, the resistance would be the same and may lead to
extinction.

Thanks in advance!

1cii—maybe, though probably not. Within the bounds of the VCE course you are probably correct, but I would venture that it's not really a key difference.

3c—again, maybe. You've understood that there's no loss of material, but I'd guess that they'd probably want some sort of indication that you understood what a translocation is, which with your answer you haven't really demonstrated.

3eii—yep, all good

4b—maybe. If they've mentioned crabs in the detail of the question you should mention them too. It's not enough to give the theory, you do have to relate it to the problem that they've presented. In this case, they were testing whether or not you could apply concepts in evolution to this problem.

5b—yep, you've said what they've asked for just with more words.

bii—you probably would get the marks for this, though it does sound like you're floundering a bit. I think with this one you've struggled to express what you wanted to say, but you do seem to know what you're on about. For that reason, they would probably give you the marks, as you are essentially correct. Lack of variation leads to more likely extinction in a changing environment.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 21, 2015, 07:06:16 pm
1cii—maybe, though probably not. Within the bounds of the VCE course you are probably correct, but I would venture that it's not really a key difference.

3c—again, maybe. You've understood that there's no loss of material, but I'd guess that they'd probably want some sort of indication that you understood what a translocation is, which with your answer you haven't really demonstrated.

3eii—yep, all good

4b—maybe. If they've mentioned crabs in the detail of the question you should mention them too. It's not enough to give the theory, you do have to relate it to the problem that they've presented. In this case, they were testing whether or not you could apply concepts in evolution to this problem.

5b—yep, you've said what they've asked for just with more words.

bii—you probably would get the marks for this, though it does sound like you're floundering a bit. I think with this one you've struggled to express what you wanted to say, but you do seem to know what you're on about. For that reason, they would probably give you the marks, as you are essentially correct. Lack of variation leads to more likely extinction in a changing environment.
Thanks so much!!

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 21, 2015, 08:51:49 pm
What is the hardest VCAA exam that is recommended to do? Other than the 2006 exam.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 21, 2015, 09:26:51 pm
What is the hardest VCAA exam that is recommended to do? Other than the 2006 exam.

Maybe 2008 unit 4. None of them are really difficult
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on October 21, 2015, 09:51:33 pm
What is the hardest VCAA exam that is recommended to do? Other than the 2006 exam.

Well, i know for the fact that 2012 was the easiest one.

A+ cutoff for exam 1 was 64/75
A+ cutoff for exam 2 was 65/75

This is the highest i've seen so far.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 21, 2015, 10:05:59 pm
Well, i know for the fact that 2012 was the easiest one.

A+ cutoff for exam 1 was 64/75
A+ cutoff for exam 2 was 65/75

This is the highest i've seen so far.

Last years cut off was 87%
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: BakedDwarf on October 21, 2015, 10:12:27 pm
Last years cut off was 87%

oh... well, i haven't done that one yet
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 21, 2015, 10:28:18 pm
For example if the A+ cut-off was roughly 60-62 what scores would be needed out of 75 to get a 45 given good sac ranking?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 21, 2015, 10:37:35 pm
For example if the A+ cut-off was roughly 60-62 what scores would be needed out of 75 to get a 45 given good sac ranking?

Around 66/75 probably
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 21, 2015, 10:41:55 pm
Around 66/75 probably
That's pretty nice to know, although I know if I remove my stupid errors(how do you get rid of them?) I'd be getting +(1-3) marks each exam and at the top end that's a few study scores.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 21, 2015, 10:43:30 pm
That's pretty nice to know, although I know if I remove my stupid errors(how do you get rid of them?) I'd be getting +(1-3) marks each exam and at the top end that's a few study scores.

Yeah If you are rank then 66-67/75 would get you around a 45
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 22, 2015, 09:25:46 pm
So how many exams has everyone done and how many more are you planning to do
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 22, 2015, 11:00:41 pm
Okay a few more clarifications on exam answers. XD
This time VCAA 2011 Unit 4

Q3(b)(ii)Explain why this procedure must occur(alluding to the removal of the nucleus from an egg in cloning(enucleation)) 2 marks

My Answer: If it didn't occur the egg would contain 3n amount of DNA which makes it polyploidy thereby very unlikely to survive. The removal of the nucleus makes the egg diploid when the donor nucleus is added thus thought to be fertilised.

VCAA answers: Ensure: the DNA of the egg/donor female is removed AND only the desired DNA/correct number of chromosomes in clone.

 Q6(c)(I):Explain why low genetic diversity in a population threatens the survival of the population 2 marks

My Answer: If a population has low genetic diversity it has a greater chance of extinction if subjected to a change of selection pressures or change in environment.

VCAA answers:Both of: an environmental condition, such as disease AND members are more susceptible or at risk of extinction.

Q7(c)(ii): Outline two types of evidence other than DNA analysis, that can be used to determine the relatedness and age of early hominins. 2 marks

My Answer:( for the first mark I correctly stated amino acid sequences for common proteins) My second point--->Similarities in morphological structures

VCAA answer:Comparisons of; fossils, tools, amino acids, (dating methods)--->Stratigraphy and radioisotopic dating.

Thanks XD

Overall was a very simple exam, explains the A+ cut-off of 64.5
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: henmatt on October 23, 2015, 01:50:10 pm
i was just wondering, which of the company exams are most similar to VCAA exams in terms of bio??
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 23, 2015, 06:40:49 pm
i was just wondering, which of the company exams are most similar to VCAA exams in terms of bio??

Maybe STAV
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 23, 2015, 10:45:48 pm
What SS is everyone aiming for
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: vox nihili on October 24, 2015, 12:14:59 am
Okay a few more clarifications on exam answers. XD
This time VCAA 2011 Unit 4

Q3(b)(ii)Explain why this procedure must occur(alluding to the removal of the nucleus from an egg in cloning(enucleation)) 2 marks

My Answer: If it didn't occur the egg would contain 3n amount of DNA which makes it polyploidy thereby very unlikely to survive. The removal of the nucleus makes the egg diploid when the donor nucleus is added thus thought to be fertilised.

VCAA answers: Ensure: the DNA of the egg/donor female is removed AND only the desired DNA/correct number of chromosomes in clone.

 Q6(c)(I):Explain why low genetic diversity in a population threatens the survival of the population 2 marks

My Answer: If a population has low genetic diversity it has a greater chance of extinction if subjected to a change of selection pressures or change in environment.

VCAA answers:Both of: an environmental condition, such as disease AND members are more susceptible or at risk of extinction.

Q7(c)(ii): Outline two types of evidence other than DNA analysis, that can be used to determine the relatedness and age of early hominins. 2 marks

My Answer:( for the first mark I correctly stated amino acid sequences for common proteins) My second point--->Similarities in morphological structures

VCAA answer:Comparisons of; fossils, tools, amino acids, (dating methods)--->Stratigraphy and radioisotopic dating.

Thanks XD

Overall was a very simple exam, explains the A+ cut-off of 64.5

A very simple exam indeed.

3bii: though what you say is correct, I doubt you'd pick up two marks. Maybe one if they were being nice. Their answer is what they were looking for.

6ci: full marks, really good answer :)

7cii: expression not great on the second point, but you'd get the marks potentially. You really should have said HOW they would compare the morphologies of related species.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: THEBEAST on October 25, 2015, 10:14:42 am
Do we need to remember our VCAA number to write on the exam or are we given it?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 25, 2015, 01:49:01 pm
Do we need to remember our VCAA number to write on the exam or are we given it?

May depend on your school, because my school is giving us numbers
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 25, 2015, 01:50:27 pm
Have you guys done the Neap 2015 exam?

Did you guys find that the questions were a bit more difficult/more confusing than usual?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 25, 2015, 01:59:20 pm
Have you guys done the Neap 2015 exam?

Did you guys find that the questions were a bit more difficult/more confusing than usual?

I did it a few weeks ago and it was pretty tough
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 25, 2015, 02:05:26 pm
I did it a few weeks ago and it was pretty tough

okay, that makes me feel a bit better.
I just did it and I'm looking at these questions like what the f
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 25, 2015, 02:11:50 pm
okay, that makes me feel a bit better.
I just did it and I'm looking at these questions like what the f

Our class average was 62%
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: grindr on October 25, 2015, 02:15:28 pm
Our class average was 62%

oh well, it was hard  :-\
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 25, 2015, 02:16:47 pm
What score do you need out of 110 for last years exam to get 45+? (assuming high rank+ strong cohort)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 25, 2015, 02:44:22 pm
Spoiler
Question 1d: Zenkeys are unable to produce offspring. Using your knowledge of gamete formation, suggest why the Zenkey is sterile.

My answer: Zenkeys are sterile because in their genome, they do not have homologous chromosomes present, and so meiosis cannot occur successfully to produce gametes.

VCAA answer: Chromosomes are not homologous and therefore will not pair up during meiosis

Would my answer get full marks? Also when it says sterile, does this just mean that the zenkeys can breed but cannot actually produce the offspring?

Spoiler
Question 8b:
In October 2004, on the remote Indonesian island of Flores, archaeologists discovered bones from a new species
of human called Homo fl oresiensis. These humans were much smaller than modern humans, with adults being
about 1 metre in height and weighing around 25 kilograms. Bones from six or seven individuals have been
discovered in sediments ranging in age from 94 000 to 13 000 years. The skeletons indicate that these humans
had relatively long arms and a very small brain relative to body size, about equivalent to that of a chimpanzee.
They had hard, thick eyebrow ridges and a sharply sloping forehead and no chin. Modern humans, Homo
sapiens, are thought to have evolved somewhere between 55 000 and 35 000 years ago.

It has been suggested that Homo florensis evolved from a population of Homo erectus. List two features from the fossil remains that support this view.

Why was small brains not an acceptable answer? Is it because small brains are not part of the fossil remains, but rather a small cranial capacity would have been a more suitable answer?

Question: Do you need to write in full sentences? For example:

With reference to the pedigree, explain why the locus for white coat colour cannot be X-linked recessive:
"In generation III, individuals 1 had the trait so would be homozygous and III-2 did not have the trait, meaning their female offspring must be heterozygous and not express white colours, but is contradicted in IV-3"

OR

"The locus cannot be X-linked because..."


Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 25, 2015, 02:47:37 pm
What score do you need out of 110 for last years exam to get 45+? (assuming high rank+ strong cohort)

High 90's - low 100's

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: THEBEAST on October 25, 2015, 03:14:24 pm
Can someone suggest a 3 dot point summary for DNA Replication that would be worth 3 marks in a VCAA exam
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 25, 2015, 03:57:34 pm
Can someone suggest a 3 dot point summary for DNA Replication that would be worth 3 marks in a VCAA exam

Double stranded DNA separated by DNA helicase by breaking hydrogen bonds
RNA primer added to both strands
DNA polymerase adds complementary nucleotides to both strands but one of strands is produced in okazaki fragments (lagging strand)
DNA Ligase joins together phosphate sugar backbone in lagging strand
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 26, 2015, 10:56:16 pm
So getting an A+ is basically a 40 SS since about 9% of people get an A+
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 26, 2015, 11:13:25 pm
Spoiler
Question 1d: Zenkeys are unable to produce offspring. Using your knowledge of gamete formation, suggest why the Zenkey is sterile.

My answer: Zenkeys are sterile because in their genome, they do not have homologous chromosomes present, and so meiosis cannot occur successfully to produce gametes.

VCAA answer: Chromosomes are not homologous and therefore will not pair up during meiosis

Would my answer get full marks? Also when it says sterile, does this just mean that the zenkeys can breed but cannot actually produce the offspring?

Spoiler
Question 8b:
In October 2004, on the remote Indonesian island of Flores, archaeologists discovered bones from a new species
of human called Homo fl oresiensis. These humans were much smaller than modern humans, with adults being
about 1 metre in height and weighing around 25 kilograms. Bones from six or seven individuals have been
discovered in sediments ranging in age from 94 000 to 13 000 years. The skeletons indicate that these humans
had relatively long arms and a very small brain relative to body size, about equivalent to that of a chimpanzee.
They had hard, thick eyebrow ridges and a sharply sloping forehead and no chin. Modern humans, Homo
sapiens, are thought to have evolved somewhere between 55 000 and 35 000 years ago.

It has been suggested that Homo florensis evolved from a population of Homo erectus. List two features from the fossil remains that support this view.

Why was small brains not an acceptable answer? Is it because small brains are not part of the fossil remains, but rather a small cranial capacity would have been a more suitable answer?

Question: Do you need to write in full sentences? For example:

With reference to the pedigree, explain why the locus for white coat colour cannot be X-linked recessive:
"In generation III, individuals 1 had the trait so would be homozygous and III-2 did not have the trait, meaning their female offspring must be heterozygous and not express white colours, but is contradicted in IV-3"

OR

"The locus cannot be X-linked because..."

Can anyone help me out, please?

And biology24123, yes, most likely. But a friend of mine got an A+ on both the spesh exams and got a 39 raw, so not guaranteed but most likely
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 26, 2015, 11:16:29 pm
Can anyone help me out, please?

And biology24123, yes, most likely. But a friend of mine got an A+ on both the spesh exams and got a 39 raw, so not guaranteed but most likely

If the question was 1 mark then you would probably get the mark but you didn't talk about the pairing of homologous chromosomes so you probably wouldn't get 2 marks for that answer
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Bruzzix on October 27, 2015, 11:38:57 am
And biology24123, yes, most likely. But a friend of mine got an A+ on both the spesh exams and got a 39 raw, so not guaranteed but most likely
Last year a 39 raw in spec scaled to 50.2
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 28, 2015, 07:43:20 am
Bloody hell. I swear Specialist scaling was not that crazy when I did it...
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 28, 2015, 07:48:15 am
Yeah If you are rank then 66-67/75 would get you around a 45

Sounds about right. If you're doing 2010 VCAA or earlier...

I vaguely remember someone getting 67.5 and 67 in 2010 and ended up with a 47. I myself got 68.5 and 72 and ended up with 50 + Premiers - if you wanted to gauge how well you are doing in your past VCAAs.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 28, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Sounds about right. If you're doing 2010 VCAA or earlier...

I vaguely remember someone getting 67.5 and 67 in 2010 and ended up with a 47. I myself got 68.5 and 72 and ended up with 50 + Premiers - if you wanted to gauge how well you are doing in your past VCAAs.

I thought you would need higher than 67 to get a 47. What about the combined exams 97+/110?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 28, 2015, 01:36:00 pm
Hahah back then the exams were harder (A+ cuts were about 75-83%).
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 28, 2015, 04:13:26 pm
What do you guys think about exam score--->Study score for VCAA 2012

The A+ cut-offs were ridiculous, Unit 3 [64.5/75] Unit 4{65/75], I got around 70/75 for Unit 3 and 70-72/75 for Unit 4?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: warya on October 28, 2015, 04:40:30 pm
What do you guys think about exam score--->Study score for VCAA 2012

The A+ cut-offs were ridiculous, Unit 3 [64.5/75] Unit 4{65/75], I got around 70/75 for Unit 3 and 70-72/75 for Unit 4?

Probs 50...no point thinking about that stuff though, no one can give you a definitive answer
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 28, 2015, 05:40:29 pm
What do you guys think about exam score--->Study score for VCAA 2012

The A+ cut-offs were ridiculous, Unit 3 [64.5/75] Unit 4{65/75], I got around 70/75 for Unit 3 and 70-72/75 for Unit 4?

Probably 47
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 28, 2015, 05:43:41 pm
Probs 50...no point thinking about that stuff though, no one can give you a definitive answer

Unit 3 there are at least 5 marks not on the new study design
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Jay.C on October 28, 2015, 11:55:43 pm
Hey, can someone please give me an example of how they would answer this question: how does dna profiling let us identify individuals?

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: foodieisanunderstatement on October 29, 2015, 01:29:56 am
How did you guys go with VCAA 2013? And does anyone know what you would need to get on it for 45 or over?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 29, 2015, 07:43:16 am
How did you guys go with VCAA 2013? And does anyone know what you would need to get on it for 45 or over?
you needed roughly 98-99/110 for a 45 with near to full scaling sac marks.


VCAA 2013
5(a) Question: What role do these autoantibodies play in causing the symptoms of an autoimmune disease? 1 mark

My Answer: Autoantibodies are specific to self-cells & work on self-cells by bind to them (opsinization) results in phagocytes engulfing and destroying self-material causing symptoms of an auto immune disease.

VCAA Answer: Autoantibodies attack self-cells and the destruction of this tissue leads to the symptoms of the disease.

5(b) Explain why the auto antibody test could be negative even though the genetic screen was positive. (My answer is totally different) 2 marks

My Answer: The teenager may be heterozygous at that gene loci & the trait may be autosomal recessive thus required two faulty alleles to express the phenotype to produce the auto antibodies, therefore did not produce auto antibodies.

VCAA Answer: The genetic screen indicates the potential to develop the disease and the absence of autoantibodies indicates that the disease has not yet been switched on.

8(c)(iii) Explain whether you would expect the same genotype and phenotypes in the offspring if the two genes had been linked. 1 mark

My Answer: No the phenotypes and genotypes would be different as some allelic pairs would more likely to be inherited together & some only occurring when crossing over occurs between the gene loci. The phenotype & genotypic ratio would be large: large (parental combinations) & small: small (recombinant combinations

VCAA Answer: Yes. The same genotypes and phenotypes are possible if crossing over/recombination occurred OR
 No. Only two types of genotypes and phenotypes are produced, or the majority are of two types.

10(a) What molecular information would the scientist obtain from sequencing RNA? 1 mark

My Answer: The sequence of amino acids exhibited in polypeptides produced by the virus in a host cell.

VCAA Answer: The sequence of nucleotides or bases could be determined.

IMO it was quite a good exam as it differentiated the state really well despite being relatively simple however 2014 exam was pretty much about who will not make stupid mistakes XD

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: thushan on October 29, 2015, 10:22:39 am
VCAA 2013
5(a) Question: What role do these autoantibodies play in causing the symptoms of an autoimmune disease? 1 mark

My Answer: Autoantibodies are specific to self-cells & work on self-cells by bind to them (opsinization) results in phagocytes engulfing and destroying self-material causing symptoms of an auto immune disease.

VCAA Answer: Autoantibodies attack self-cells and the destruction of this tissue leads to the symptoms of the disease.

Mark: 0.5/1. Whilst you got the essentials here, my concern is your use of the word 'opsonisation'. This term describes a process whereby the binding of an antibody to an antigen makes it easier for a phagocyte to engulf the antigen. I'm not sure whether you used that term to describe the binding of antibodies to the antigen, or its true definition. I think one examiner will pay the mark whereas the other may not, so 0.5/1.

5(b) Explain why the auto antibody test could be negative even though the genetic screen was positive. (My answer is totally different) 2 marks

My Answer: The teenager may be heterozygous at that gene loci & the trait may be autosomal recessive thus required two faulty alleles to express the phenotype to produce the auto antibodies, therefore did not produce auto antibodies.

VCAA Answer: The genetic screen indicates the potential to develop the disease and the absence of autoantibodies indicates that the disease has not yet been switched on.

Mark: 0.5/1. I wasn't sure about this. For your level of knowledge at Year 12, it would have been perfectly reasonable to say what you did. If I were an examiner, I'd give you full marks. However, I'm anticipating that some examiners may give the mark, and others wouldn't.

8(c)(iii) Explain whether you would expect the same genotype and phenotypes in the offspring if the two genes had been linked. 1 mark

My Answer: No the phenotypes and genotypes would be different as some allelic pairs would more likely to be inherited together & some only occurring when crossing over occurs between the gene loci. The phenotype & genotypic ratio would be large: large (parental combinations) & small: small (recombinant combinations

VCAA Answer: Yes. The same genotypes and phenotypes are possible if crossing over/recombination occurred OR
 No. Only two types of genotypes and phenotypes are produced, or the majority are of two types.

Mark: 1/1. Careful though, when using terms like genotypic and phenotypic ratio, that you are clear in what you expect them to be. I nearly gave you 0.5 for this.

10(a) What molecular information would the scientist obtain from sequencing RNA? 1 mark

My Answer: The sequence of amino acids exhibited in polypeptides produced by the virus in a host cell.

VCAA Answer: The sequence of nucleotides or bases could be determined.

Mark: 0/1. Issue here is that from the RNA sequence alone, you cannot figure out which proteins the virus can make because you do not know which segments of RNA are actually used to produce protein.

Hope that helps! Sorry if I sounded mean :(
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: vox nihili on October 29, 2015, 11:15:44 am
10(a) What molecular information would the scientist obtain from sequencing RNA? 1 mark

My Answer: The sequence of amino acids exhibited in polypeptides produced by the virus in a host cell.

VCAA Answer: The sequence of nucleotides or bases could be determined.

Mark: 0/1. Issue here is that from the RNA sequence alone, you cannot figure out which proteins the virus can make because you do not know which segments of RNA are actually used to produce protein.

Hope that helps! Sorry if I sounded mean :(

Just going to jump in on this one. I'm not sure whether VCAA would give you the marks for this one given your answer differs so substantially from theirs, but your answer is correct.
It is possible, indeed relatively easy in fact, to work out the sequence of amino acids in a protein by sequencing the RNA that codes for it. Well beyond the VCE course, but you can use bioinformatic tools to work out which parts of the RNA are coding for protein and which parts correspond to untranslated regions.
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 29, 2015, 04:22:57 pm
VCAA 2013
5(a) Question: What role do these autoantibodies play in causing the symptoms of an autoimmune disease? 1 mark

My Answer: Autoantibodies are specific to self-cells & work on self-cells by bind to them (opsinization) results in phagocytes engulfing and destroying self-material causing symptoms of an auto immune disease.

VCAA Answer: Autoantibodies attack self-cells and the destruction of this tissue leads to the symptoms of the disease.

Mark: 0.5/1. Whilst you got the essentials here, my concern is your use of the word 'opsonisation'. This term describes a process whereby the binding of an antibody to an antigen makes it easier for a phagocyte to engulf the antigen. I'm not sure whether you used that term to describe the binding of antibodies to the antigen, or its true definition. I think one examiner will pay the mark whereas the other may not, so 0.5/1.

5(b) Explain why the auto antibody test could be negative even though the genetic screen was positive. (My answer is totally different) 2 marks

My Answer: The teenager may be heterozygous at that gene loci & the trait may be autosomal recessive thus required two faulty alleles to express the phenotype to produce the auto antibodies, therefore did not produce auto antibodies.

VCAA Answer: The genetic screen indicates the potential to develop the disease and the absence of autoantibodies indicates that the disease has not yet been switched on.

Mark: 0.5/1. I wasn't sure about this. For your level of knowledge at Year 12, it would have been perfectly reasonable to say what you did. If I were an examiner, I'd give you full marks. However, I'm anticipating that some examiners may give the mark, and others wouldn't.

8(c)(iii) Explain whether you would expect the same genotype and phenotypes in the offspring if the two genes had been linked. 1 mark

My Answer: No the phenotypes and genotypes would be different as some allelic pairs would more likely to be inherited together & some only occurring when crossing over occurs between the gene loci. The phenotype & genotypic ratio would be large: large (parental combinations) & small: small (recombinant combinations

VCAA Answer: Yes. The same genotypes and phenotypes are possible if crossing over/recombination occurred OR
 No. Only two types of genotypes and phenotypes are produced, or the majority are of two types.

Mark: 1/1. Careful though, when using terms like genotypic and phenotypic ratio, that you are clear in what you expect them to be. I nearly gave you 0.5 for this.

10(a) What molecular information would the scientist obtain from sequencing RNA? 1 mark

My Answer: The sequence of amino acids exhibited in polypeptides produced by the virus in a host cell.

VCAA Answer: The sequence of nucleotides or bases could be determined.

Mark: 0/1. Issue here is that from the RNA sequence alone, you cannot figure out which proteins the virus can make because you do not know which segments of RNA are actually used to produce protein.

Hope that helps! Sorry if I sounded mean :(
Thanks for the help   :) greatly appreciated!, haha it's actually more of a confidence boost because usually I just mark my self wrong if my answer is not similar to the assessors report.

Just going to jump in on this one. I'm not sure whether VCAA would give you the marks for this one given your answer differs so substantially from theirs, but your answer is correct.
It is possible, indeed relatively easy in fact, to work out the sequence of amino acids in a protein by sequencing the RNA that codes for it. Well beyond the VCE course, but you can use bioinformatic tools to work out which parts of the RNA are coding for protein and which parts correspond to untranslated regions.

thanks, I have no idea why I didn't just say sequence of bases. I need to make sure to give the most obvious answer.

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: vox nihili on October 29, 2015, 04:58:40 pm

thanks, I have no idea why I didn't just say sequence of bases. I need to make sure to give the most obvious answer.

It's almost an insultingly obvious answer. I think I'd have gotten it "wrong" too.

Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 29, 2015, 06:41:04 pm
For the attached:

- How do we know how many things to label on the diagram?
- You see how my arrows are mostly facing the north side of the page? Do we need to keep this organised and keep all arrows to one side of the diagram?
- Can the arrows go through the structures of the diagram? Like when i labelled DNA helicase the arrow went through the DNA, is this allowed?
- Do we need to show the nitrogenous bases or are the lines alright?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 29, 2015, 06:54:25 pm
Also for the attached, you see for step 3, why is there an 'or'? I usually say after cooling down to 54 degrees, then primers are added and attach to the 3' ends of each single strand, and then DNA polymerase synthesises the DNA strands in the 5'-'3 direction. Is it necessary to say to increase temperature from 54 to 74?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Biology24123 on October 29, 2015, 06:55:03 pm
For the attached:

- How do we know how many things to label on the diagram?
- You see how my arrows are mostly facing the north side of the page? Do we need to keep this organised and keep all arrows to one side of the diagram?
- Can the arrows go through the structures of the diagram? Like when i labelled DNA helicase the arrow went through the DNA, is this allowed?
- Do we need to show the nitrogenous bases or are the lines alright?

There are about 10 things that you can label to get the marks. Some things you missed are showing the double helix complementary base pairing, DNA ligase and labeling leading and lagging strand. The layout is fine
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: cosine on October 29, 2015, 06:59:53 pm
There are about 10 things that you can label to get the marks. Some things you missed are showing the double helix complementary base pairing, DNA ligase and labeling leading and lagging strand. The layout is fine

- So do we have to include the base pairings?
- And is it 4 marks = 4 labels ALWAYS or ?

And also for the difference between binary fission and mitosis, i said that mitosis is nuclear division of eukaryotic cells, whereas binary fission is the cellular division of prokaryotes. Is this correct?
Title: Re: Biology Practice Exam Discussion
Post by: Yacoubb on October 29, 2015, 07:05:38 pm
- So do we have to include the base pairings?
- And is it 4 marks = 4 labels ALWAYS or ?

And also for the difference between binary fission and mitosis, i said that mitosis is nuclear division of eukaryotic cells, whereas binary fission is the cellular division of prokaryotes. Is this correct?

I think they only wanted 4 labels; as long as you've added the main things, you'd be getting the full marks.

I wouldn't give your second answer the mark for the reason that it's kind of just stating an obvious difference in a way. The best thing to go with is length of time (binary fission occurs a lot faster than mitosis due to the smaller amount of genetic material that needs to be replicated); binary fission has no stages - mitosis has prophase, metapjase, anaphase and telophase.