Post by: heids on December 12, 2014, 11:45:07 am
I'm here to (try to) help answering your questions or marking your work (in general but especially for Luke), and I'm sure there are others out there. Everyone will be excited to hear there's someone else out there, not just their class!
Have fun with this awesome subject guys :D !
Post by: anat0my on December 12, 2014, 12:08:53 pm
Post by: heids on December 12, 2014, 12:30:04 pm
Post by: anat0my on December 12, 2014, 02:02:36 pm
Were you 2014 too, and if so how did you find the exam? What section - Luke, Qur'an? I really wish I'd posted earlier, I didn't feel like there was ANYONE out there!
Haha same!! I did the Quranic section. It was a fair exam although I struggled with the essay component due to time constraints and the style of essay questions were quite difficult even though I sort of predicted one of them. Other than the essay question, everything else was pretty good. How was it for you? :)
Post by: heids on December 12, 2014, 02:17:15 pm
Good luck for Monday btw :D! Hope you and everyone else did great! I'm still hoping for mid 40s, but unfortunately my essay killed my chances of that. :'(
Post by: anat0my on December 12, 2014, 02:42:14 pm
It was a way harder exam, for Luke, than last year's. The 4a passage wasn't from our special chapters, one extended response was based on two minor verses from a special chapter... pretty hard but I coped. NOTHING we predicted was on the exam! Like you I struggled with time constraints around the essay.
Good luck for Monday btw :D! Hope you and everyone else did great! I'm still hoping for mid 40s, but unfortunately my essay killed my chances of that. :'(
Our 4a passage was also not from special chapters, I think they are able to do that though? I think the writers of the whole exam took a different approach this year in terms of style. Previous exam papers had such straightforward questions!? Hopefully they go easy on us. (Like c'mon it was just one bad essay how many marks can that lower of a study score...)
Thanks! Good-luck to you as well :D I'm in the same situation as you, but nonetheless I agree, T.T is an awesome subject :)
Post by: MNM101 on December 18, 2014, 02:01:39 pm
Our 4a passage was also not from special chapters, I think they are able to do that though? I think the writers of the whole exam took a different approach this year in terms of style. Previous exam papers had such straightforward questions!? Hopefully they go easy on us. (Like c'mon it was just one bad essay how many marks can that lower of a study score...)
Thanks! Good-luck to you as well :D I'm in the same situation as you, but nonetheless I agree, T.T is an awesome subject :)
Hey I'm doing the Quranic version of T&T and was wondering what useful resources to use throughout the course ?
Post by: nerdmmb on December 18, 2014, 03:09:23 pm
Hey I'm doing the Quranic version of T&T and was wondering what useful resources to use throughout the course ?
The Study Design recommends students to use the "Farooq e-Azim" Quran book and it also contains a variety of recommend sources that you can read. I found that reading past students essays was extremely helpful as well as a Quran book which also consists of exegetical peices for each Surah. You can ask your teacher about this book or search it up online- there's heaps :)
Post by: MNM101 on December 18, 2014, 06:17:14 pm
The Study Design recommends students to use the "Farooq e-Azim" Quran book and it also contains a variety of recommend sources that you can read. I found that reading past students essays was extremely helpful as well as a Quran book which also consists of exegetical peices for each Surah. You can ask your teacher about this book or search it up online- there's heaps :)
Okay cheers mate :)
Post by: anat0my on December 18, 2014, 06:32:59 pm
Hey I'm doing the Quranic version of T&T and was wondering what useful resources to use throughout the course ?
Hey, I'm happy to soon upload a thread similar to the Luke resources page, listing some helpful resources if you'd like :)
Post by: heids on December 18, 2014, 07:44:32 pm
Hey, I'm happy to soon upload a thread similar to the Luke resources page, listing some helpful resources if you'd like :)
Thanks so much, that's exactly what I was hoping someone would do :)
Any John and Jeremiah/Ezekiel helpers out there?
Hey I'm doing the Quranic version of T&T and was wondering what useful resources to use throughout the course ?
Good luck for this year, and keep asking questions!
Post by: MNM101 on December 18, 2014, 09:30:19 pm
Thanks so much, that's exactly what I was hoping someone would do :)
Any John and Jeremiah/Ezekiel helpers out there?
Good luck for this year, and keep asking questions!
Thank you and much appreciated !
Post by: MNM101 on December 18, 2014, 09:30:50 pm
Hey, I'm happy to soon upload a thread similar to the Luke resources page, listing some helpful resources if you'd like :)
I would love that ! Thanks champ
Post by: anat0my on December 18, 2014, 11:55:47 pm
Post by: Sardothienn on February 27, 2015, 05:31:00 pm
I'm also doing texts and traditions and am aiming really high 47+ however I got my sac mark back and was kind of concerned as I got a 92%, which is not good enough. What mark should I roughly achieve to get a 47+ throughout all SAC's? Thanks in advance
Post by: heids on February 27, 2015, 05:55:19 pm
Hi,
I'm also doing texts and traditions and am aiming really high 47+ however I got my sac mark back and was kind of concerned as I got a 92%, which is not good enough. What mark should I roughly achieve to get a 47+ throughout all SAC's? Thanks in advance
Hello :D
From my experience, I got 97% SAC average, rank 1 in cohort, for both T&T and HHD - and I got a 46 in one of them and a 50 in the other, because I did well in the HHD exam and badly in the Texts exam. Remember that your SAC scores will be scaled by the exam/cohort strength. I'd say 95+ but once it gets into the VCAA machine, SAC scores are twisted so much.
Also this one SAC is probably worth 7-8% of your final study score; a perfectly good 92 isn't going to kill your score! Figure out how you lost marks and try to fix it in future SAC and the exam. It's what you do in the future that will determine your score. Don't stress about scores, just do your best in all SACs and prepare thoroughly for the exam.
Keep aiming high (though recall that only about 4-5 people get 47+ in this subject - you could be one of them :) ) and ask any questions you have!
Post by: Sardothienn on February 27, 2015, 05:59:43 pm
Post by: Sardothienn on November 03, 2015, 06:56:37 pm
With the t&t exam looming around the corner I was wondering what is the most efficient way of studying? There are really no prac exams for this subject and all I've been doing is memorising as much quotes as I can, going over my exegesis notes for the passage of special study and memorising literary terms etc; (I've really went OCD on trying to memorise content for ALL my set texts
, ) should I go all out on practice exegesis'/ essays or just go over the notes till exam time? Also I'm currently Rank 1 with 95% sac averages and was wondering what study score I'm looking at if I were to do fairly well on the exam?
Post by: anat0my on November 03, 2015, 08:28:52 pm
Hi,
With the t&t exam looming around the corner I was wondering what is the most efficient way of studying? There are really no prac exams for this subject and all I've been doing is memorising as much quotes as I can, going over my exegesis notes for the passage of special study and memorising literary terms etc; (I've really went OCD on trying to memorise content for ALL my set texts
I'll give in my 2cents - I'd recommend going over all the exegesis, as you won't know which passage will come up, so that way you will be prepared for anything that does come up. Also make sure to go over the themes and try make links between the themes into a possible exam question. (I did this and happened to predict an exam question!). Most importantly try and complete a practice exam (you can try to create your own) in the allocated time given. You want to make sure you're able to write the 3 essays to completion and not run out of time. Also make sure to read through the assessor's reports for general insight/advice.
In regard to study score estimates, I can't say for sure, but if you obtain an A+ for the exam (which is actually quite doable) you're definitely in the running for a 40+ SS. Don't worry much about the marks though. Concentrate on delivering 3 killer essays :) Best of luck!
Post by: heids on November 04, 2015, 11:18:35 am
Hi,
With the t&t exam looming around the corner I was wondering what is the most efficient way of studying? There are really no prac exams for this subject and all I've been doing is memorising as much quotes as I can, going over my exegesis notes for the passage of special study and memorising literary terms etc; (I've really went OCD on trying to memorise content for ALL my set texts
Try past VCAA exams! There's heaps of past questions there - in fact I've attached them for all four sections. (EDIT: Site too busy, so another day I'll attach.)
I studied mainly through planning extended responses, essays and exegeses, and studying my notes through these. I also definitely did some timed responses because I found timing the hardest thing to master in T&T (as I always had waayyyyy too much to say).
So, planning and related study was my hugest thing. Going through those questions attached, I would brainstorm ideas for each question and plan a skeleton of an answer; if I found I didn't know enough on the topic, then I'd research and study that general area more, and then write some concise study notes on the topic. Same with exegesis - I'd grab a passage and dot-point out the sorts of things I'd probably talk about - if I was shaky, I'd revise there. Then, after doing that, I'd also write my own essay questions/extended responses on all themes and major pieces of historical background or literary techniques, and brainstorm for them.
Basically, I constantly tested all the areas I could think of that I'd be tested on, practised formulating answers using my knowledge, and then brushed up and revised the areas this showed I didn't know. (This would be stuff like memorising nice phrases to use for each theme, learning historical facts, learning the most relevant quotes for each topic, etc.)
By actually applying your knowledge, you get heaps further than just memorising it, I found.
Note: I don't believe you have to be prepared for exegesis for all passages; since they give you one at the start, middle and end of the book, you can probably pick 1-2 chapters you don't like as much and give them only very shallow preparation, because chances are if they get picked you'll still have 1-2 other options. This means you can do more memorising in detail of the passages you DO want to do, so it's more efficient.
You have potential of basically anywhere in the 40s range, depending on your exam performance. Don't rely on your SAC marks as some schools make them far easier than the exam, but then again, you definitely have promise of something awesome if you work all out at it!
Post by: Sardothienn on November 04, 2015, 12:09:28 pm
I'll give in my 2cents - I'd recommend going over all the exegesis, as you won't know which passage will come up, so that way you will be prepared for anything that does come up. Also make sure to go over the themes and try make links between the themes into a possible exam question. (I did this and happened to predict an exam question!). Most importantly try and complete a practice exam (you can try to create your own) in the allocated time given. You want to make sure you're able to write the 3 essays to completion and not run out of time. Also make sure to read through the assessor's reports for general insight/advice.
In regard to study score estimates, I can't say for sure, but if you obtain an A+ for the exam (which is actually quite doable) you're definitely in the running for a 40+ SS. Don't worry much about the marks though. Concentrate on delivering 3 killer essays :) Best of luck!
Thank you! I've been reading most examiners reports and picked up things my teacher hasn't bothered explaining ( didn't even know we had to put theological terms in our essay until today !)
Post by: Sardothienn on November 04, 2015, 12:16:39 pm
Post by: Sardothienn on November 06, 2015, 06:57:29 pm
It's for The Quran section
"Discuss how reward and punishment in the Hereafter are related to the idea of divine justice and guidance"
The question I feel only refers to one set text (Maryam) but only briefly, how would I go about answering this question?
Post by: Sardothienn on November 07, 2015, 04:42:10 pm
Post by: heids on November 07, 2015, 04:50:36 pm
In the criteria sheet for exegesis ( significance to the original community) is it okay if we link this with themes or literary devices; how these particular things impacted the original community? Or do we have to talk about how the passage given in general impacted the original community? So far throughout all my exegesis' I've been linking literary terms and themes to the way it has impacted the original community but my teacher told me its best if I just talk about how the overall passage affected the community. I feel as though this way is too simplistic and you get marked on the level of sophistication so I was wondering what is the best approach?
Can you give any examples? I'm not totally sure what you mean.
Remember that if you get too caught up in small details without looking at how overall it impacts the community, then that's being 'unsophisticated' in itself because you're missing the big picture, the big overall message. How I did it was explain impact of specific details throughout, and then 'zoom out' with more general explanations (e.g. 'The fact that an outcast receives salvation would encourage Luke's primarily Hellenistic audience that they too could be saved....' and all that nonsense) in my last paragraph.
Post by: Sardothienn on November 07, 2015, 05:02:24 pm
Can you give any examples? I'm not totally sure what you mean.
Remember that if you get too caught up in small details without looking at how overall it impacts the community, then that's being 'unsophisticated' in itself because you're missing the big picture, the big overall message. How I did it was explain impact of specific details throughout, and then 'zoom out' with more general explanations (e.g. 'The fact that an outcast receives salvation would encourage Luke's primarily Hellenistic audience that they too could be saved....' and all that nonsense) in my last paragraph.
I see what you mean. Basically what I'm trying to say is upon explaining themes or literary terms (like an aphorism that might accentuate God's conviction and might) I would link it to how this would have impacted the original community (enjoins believers to appreciate the consistent favours God blesses then with ..) I would do this throughout my essay but didn't really see a point in discussing the overall impact as I've discussed it already; so should I talk about the overall significance/ impact of the original community only or is it better to do both? Sorry if I'm not making sense
Post by: anat0my on November 07, 2015, 08:44:34 pm
I was trying to answer Part B of 2014 exam Q7 but I'm not sure on how to approach it;
It's for The Quran section
"Discuss how reward and punishment in the Hereafter are related to the idea of divine justice and guidance"
The question I feel only refers to one set text (Maryam) but only briefly, how would I go about answering this question?
Hey I'm not familiar with this years set texts, but for this essay you could discuss what the rewards and punishments are, why they're necessary, i.e how justice is given by reward/punishment and the prospect of being rewarded/punishment allows for guidance. Do let me know if you're still struggling with this prompt. :)
Also, if you happen to be studying the Quran section, do check out the thread I made for resources/advice for the quran section, I've provided links to exegesis that may further explain such topics in regard to your set texts.
Post by: xsangan on November 08, 2015, 01:54:25 pm
Since the Text and Traditions Exams are very close (4 days left), I was wondering about the Short Answer Questions in Part A; is it mostly restricted to set chapters or it can be anything from the entire gospel?
Post by: anat0my on November 09, 2015, 05:51:04 pm
Hi,
Since the Text and Traditions Exams are very close (4 days left), I was wondering about the Short Answer Questions in Part A; is it mostly restricted to set chapters or it can be anything from the entire gospel?
I'm not familiar with the set text you're studying, however I think usually the questions from section A are specific to chapters. Best thing is to take a look at the past exam paper to get an idea of what the questions will look like :).
Post by: heids on November 09, 2015, 08:47:20 pm
Hi,
Since the Text and Traditions Exams are very close (4 days left), I was wondering about the Short Answer Questions in Part A; is it mostly restricted to set chapters or it can be anything from the entire gospel?
It can definitely be anywhere in the Gospel (like for questions 4a/b we had a passage out of our chapters, and not even about any of our themes... ???) But they're unlikely to ask for much factual/historical detail from outside your chapters - it'll mostly focus on special chapters.
I see what you mean. Basically what I'm trying to say is upon explaining themes or literary terms (like an aphorism that might accentuate God's conviction and might) I would link it to how this would have impacted the original community (enjoins believers to appreciate the consistent favours God blesses then with ..) I would do this throughout my essay but didn't really see a point in discussing the overall impact as I've discussed it already; so should I talk about the overall significance/ impact of the original community only or is it better to do both? Sorry if I'm not making sense
How do you structure an exegesis? If you use a ‘chronological’ style, where you chronologically disucss each ‘feature’ of the passage with a mixture of background/literary/themes/meaning to audience, then what you’re doing sounds great (though I might finish off with a short ‘conclusion’ that’s more general/broad/overall meaning). But I blocked it in chunks with headings under VCAA's bullet points.
Longer answer - I still don’t know if this answers your question though ::) … not totally understanding the question still.
Basically, in the bodies, I tried not to link to the audience too much. Like, see how there's this 'formula' you use in the bodies?
1. Technique/example: His use of an aphorism in ____
2. Immediate effect: accentuates God's conviction and might
3. Impact on audience: encouraging believers to appreciate the consistent favours...
I mainly did 1-2 rather than 1-2-3 unless it was super clear, just because there wasn’t time. That's what I'm saying - do it occasionally but not too much so you can put more in the conclusion.
Then I did a much broader 'profound'-style conclusion, where I wouldn't reference any specific nitty-gritty details (e.g. I definitely wouldn't mention a technique) - instead I'd be like 'This passage would have encouraged believers, struggling with ____, to appreciate the consistent favours of God.’ OR: ‘The fact that so-and-so receives salvation would have reassured…’
In other words, I did a mixture – some ‘specific’ meaning ot audience throughout, and then more generalised profound at the end.
1. Technique/example: His use of an aphorism in ____
2. Immediate effect: accentuates God's conviction and might
3. Impact on audience: encouraging believers to appreciate the consistent favours...
I mainly did 1-2 rather than 1-2-3 unless it was super clear, just because there wasn’t time. That's what I'm saying - do it occasionally but not too much so you can put more in the conclusion.
Then I did a much broader 'profound'-style conclusion, where I wouldn't reference any specific nitty-gritty details (e.g. I definitely wouldn't mention a technique) - instead I'd be like 'This passage would have encouraged believers, struggling with ____, to appreciate the consistent favours of God.’ OR: ‘The fact that so-and-so receives salvation would have reassured…’
In other words, I did a mixture – some ‘specific’ meaning ot audience throughout, and then more generalised profound at the end.
Post by: xsangan on November 09, 2015, 10:10:38 pm
I guess I will focus on special study chapters.
Good-luck on Thursday for anyone doing the subject this year, hopefully my efforts get me over 40 ss :)
Post by: Sardothienn on November 10, 2015, 02:08:22 pm
Thanks for the replies :D,Good luck to you too!
I guess I will focus on special study chapters.
Good-luck on Thursday for anyone doing the subject this year, hopefully my efforts get me over 40 ss :)
Post by: Sardothienn on November 10, 2015, 02:09:49 pm
Post by: heids on November 10, 2015, 10:52:07 pm
With the exam is it better to start with the exegisis first and then the essay or is it better to do the exam in chronological order( part a- b -c) ?
Depends on your strengths - I did something like 2 extended response, then exegesis, then one ext response, then essay (in the last 25-30 min :P). Basically I went strongest to weakest so I knew I had all my best stuff out early. Leaving ext response till last could also be a good method - it's easier to write in dot-points when you run out of time :P Whatever you spend most time on in reading time (esp in the last 5 min) should probably be your first writing.
Just remember to LABEL exactly what question you're doing really clearly - you have a totally blank script book (I nearly ran through two actually :P) and can do it in any order, but write really bold (and possibly highlight it)
'PART A - Extended Response
QUESTION 1'.
And yeah, all the best guys! Prepare to own it.
Post by: dessil99 on November 12, 2015, 12:15:03 am
Fingers crossed for some decent extended response questions, and a decent exegesis :P
Post by: anat0my on November 12, 2015, 12:33:24 am
Post by: Sardothienn on November 12, 2015, 06:40:16 pm
Post by: xsangan on November 12, 2015, 07:36:33 pm
The exam went well! I felt like I could have performed better due to time constraints, overall it was a fair exam! How did everyone find it ?I felt like I could have preformed better but nevertheless it's over and I managed to finish on time, the essay and exegesis was pretty good but I struggled a bit on part A, especially the commentary didn't think they would ask about political aspects in first century Judea. Unsure if I can obtain over 40SS at this point :-\
Post by: heids on November 12, 2015, 08:03:34 pm
I felt like I could have preformed better but nevertheless it's over and I managed to finish on time, the essay and exegesis was pretty good but I struggled a bit on part A, especially the commentary didn't think they would ask about political aspects in first century Judea. Unsure if I can obtain over 40SS at this point :-\
What sort of questions were there? I'm v. curious ;D and yeah, that does sound like a tricky question!
Finishing on time was definitely better than I managed, I didn't finish all my bodies in my essay (yeah, timing was my worst issue and I always felt ripped off by it Sardothienn). After that essay, I thought I'd got an SS about 3-5 lower than I actually got, so... you never know!
Post by: xsangan on November 12, 2015, 08:57:07 pm
What sort of questions were there? I'm v. curious ;D and yeah, that does sound like a tricky question!Part A -Extended Responses
Finishing on time was definitely better than I managed, I didn't finish all my bodies in my essay (yeah, timing was my worst issue and I always felt ripped off by it Sardothienn). After that essay, I thought I'd got an SS about 3-5 lower than I actually got, so... you never know!
Q1. What is the Sabbath? Two examples in the Gospel according to Lk of Jesus being accused of breaking the sabbath. Using these two examples, explain what the evangelist attempts to show about Jeus' attitude towards the Sabbath.
Q2. Who was Theophilus? Why...begin his narrative with a reference to Theophilus? What does beginning his narrative with a formal prologue tell us about the culture and purpose of the evangelist?
Q3. Briefly describe the behavour of each of the two criminals crucified with Jesus in Chap 23. What roles do the two criminals play in the crucifixion narrative? Suggest wht the evangelist presents the criminals that way.
Q4. With close reference to the passage below, write a commentary explaining the political and religious aspects of how Judea was governed during the time of Jesus. Lk 23:6-12
Part B-Essay
Q5. Rev. Bredan Bryne SJ has suggested that the I.N of the Gospels according to Lk 'raise themes and issues central to the Gospel'. Discuss the ways in which the I.N in Chp 1 + 2 of the Gospel according to Lk could be interpreted to introduce themes and issues central to the whole gospel. In your response, provide examples from across the Gospel according to Lk as a whole.
Q6. Explain how Jesus' teachings while he is at dinner in Lk 14:7-24 reflect his messages found throughout the gospel about the inclusive nature of Jesus' mission. In your response, consider how the writer of the Gosepl according to Lk uses Jesus teachings, including the Parable of the Great Dinner, to convey Jesus' message both to Jesus' hearers and to the evangelist's original audience.
Q7. 'Throughout the Gospel according to Lk, the evangelist portrays women as witnesses to Jesus' teachings and as faith puff disciples.' Discuss how the writer of the Gospel according to Lk uses women as witnesses to Jesus' teachings and to develop the theme of discipleship. In your response, refer to at least 3 examples from across the whole gospel.
Part C-Exegesis
Q8 Lk 6:27-42
Q9 Lk 9:21-36
Q10 Lk 19:28-44
Post by: dessil99 on November 12, 2015, 11:40:27 pm
I felt like I could have preformed better but nevertheless it's over and I managed to finish on time, the essay and exegesis was pretty good but I struggled a bit on part A, especially the commentary didn't think they would ask about political aspects in first century Judea. Unsure if I can obtain over 40SS at this point :-\
Agreed, that commentary was quite tricky, and I wasn't too keen on working with the crucifixion narrative. Time constraints got me too, couldn't finish my Exegesis on time, was up to Themes, and had just started meaning and significance
:-\ :-[ No hope for 40 SS for me
Sounds like everyone did alright in the end though :), fingers crossed for some results
Post by: anat0my on November 13, 2015, 04:44:43 pm
Post by: xsangan on November 13, 2015, 06:13:42 pm
For those feeling uneasy about whether they can't score 40+ SS, I'd say don't worry about it too much. As bangali_lok mentioned, you never know what outcome your going to achieve. I managed a 39 SS, after having completely bombed out on the Section B essay that was worth 30 marks due to running out of time; I don't think I even wrote a full page but it was the worst essay that was practically verbal diarrhoea haha. So if that's any indication, I'm sure you guys did well, especially if you wrote all sections to completion, unlike me. Well done either way :)Thanks for your words of wisdom :D, just felt like I didn't illustrate the amount of hard work I put in leading up to the exam on paper. With that being said, I might have not done as bad as I thought I did (well finishing everything was definitely a good thing even-though I could use more time :P). Just trying to stay optomistic and hope for the best, who knows I might achieve my goal of 42SS. These yr 11 exams just started so it can keep my mind off this subject. Thanks again, I bet your essay wasn't that bad :P and 39 is a pretty good score :)
Post by: anat0my on November 13, 2015, 11:00:21 pm
Thanks for your words of wisdom :D, just felt like I didn't illustrate the amount of hard work I put in leading up to the exam on paper. With that being said, I might have not done as bad as I thought I did (well finishing everything was definitely a good thing even-though I could use more time :P). Just trying to stay optomistic and hope for the best, who knows I might achieve my goal of 42SS. These yr 11 exams just started so it can keep my mind off this subject. Thanks again, I bet your essay wasn't that bad :P and 39 is a pretty good score :)
Totally understand the part how the exam doesn't exactly reflect all the knowledge and hard work accumulated throughout the year. But great optimism you have there! Cheers :)
Post by: rachid.kam on March 05, 2017, 12:30:38 am
I'm starting exegesis next week, but I still can't comprehend the idea of literary forms. Do you happen to have any good resources connected to literary forms? Also, do you recommend that I highlight key passages and try defining what type of literary devices are involved?
Tried to write an exegesis, but literally looked at the paper for one hour thinking "how the hell am I supposed to start this thing?!". I need tips as to what I should do before writing an exegetical response for a passage. Thanks again Heids :)
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