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Title: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on April 02, 2017, 02:14:28 pm
VCE HISTORY: REVOLUTIONS Q&A THREAD

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If you have general questions about the VCE History: Revolutions course or how to improve in certain areas, this is the place to ask!


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Original post.
Feel free to leave a question about the French or Hstory revolutions and it will be answered by any members of the forum. This is benificial as you can learn from other people's questions as well as strengthening your knowledge by answering them or learning them. Weather your to shy to ask all your questions in class or your teacher doesnt respond to your emails this is a perfect place to ask
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: vox nihili on April 02, 2017, 03:55:27 pm
That way it will help us more and make this forum section more active

There you go, this is now the revs question thread :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on April 02, 2017, 04:12:10 pm
There you go, this is now the revs question thread :)
Legend
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on April 02, 2017, 04:15:42 pm
In regards to the Enlightenment, if the point of the enlightenment was to critisise the ancient regime which would indirectly mean it would weaken pirvledge as it was agaisnt it, why did Nobilities participate in these discussions if it questioned their privledges and wealthy which they enjoyed and wanted to keep?

How was their a growth of the burgoisese (dont know how to spell it) when there were falling crop prices? Is it because they had business from privledged estates from them becomings tradesmans etc?
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Coffee on April 05, 2017, 09:49:14 pm
In regards to the Enlightenment, if the point of the enlightenment was to critisise the ancient regime which would indirectly mean it would weaken pirvledge as it was agaisnt it, why did Nobilities participate in these discussions if it questioned their privledges and wealthy which they enjoyed and wanted to keep?

How was their a growth of the burgoisese (dont know how to spell it) when there were falling crop prices? Is it because they had business from privledged estates from them becomings tradesmans etc?

Hey Commando!

I think the key point here is that not all nobles enjoyed and wanted to keep these privileges. There was a small minority of nobles - 'liberal nobles' - that weren't happy with the current system. These nobles looked towards England as a model of what France ought to become, i.e. a constitutional monarchy. Essentially, they learnt to challenge these traditional structures and to believe that a better society was possible.

There were actually instances of nobles 'giving up' their feudal rights and privileges. This led to the abolition of feudalism entirely on August 4th, 1789.

Quite a few historians have touched on this subject, so it's worth having a read around for anything of significance! I'll leave you with this quote from Doyle which I think explains it quite well:

Quote
"For a group which constituted such a tiny proportion of the nation, in fact, the nobility played a disproportionately large role in its cultural and intellectual life; and in so doing they helped to elaborate many of the ideas which were to inspire the revolutionaries of 1789 and the ensuring decade. In 1788, this 'liberal' minority, many of whom had their minds opened by what they had seen while serving against the British in America, viewed the collapse of the old government as an opportunity to introduce reforms and innovations that they had been talking and dreaming about for years." Origins of the French Revolution, 127.

In regards to your second question, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Could you maybe elaborate? :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on April 05, 2017, 10:33:22 pm
love you man
But why wouldnt you want thoose privledges? Was it because thoose liberal nobles were aware of the problems of the anciene regime sparked by the enlightenment ideas or was it because they wanted a constitutional monarchy. I think a good example was Lafayette who saw the American indepedency, what was it again

For the second question, there was said to be a growth in the burgeoise, meaning that more people known as the burgoise from the third estate became richer. How did this happen when the nation was starving due to sky rocketing break proces and failing crops
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on July 24, 2017, 07:09:23 pm
Just wanting to bump this for any Revs students out there who might be wanting some help or advice :D


I'm happy to help with questions about the Chinese and Russian revolutions :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: madic on July 27, 2017, 07:59:30 pm
Regarding the exam on a general level, how do you/did you chose what you would memorise historian's interpretations for?

At the UniMelb VCE Winter School a lecturer recommended 2 for each thing listed on the study design, but this just seems overwhelming. Especially since I haven't really found many sticking due to knowing the confines of both of my AOS1 SACS (e.g. for Source Analysis we were told 5 possible topics the SAC could be one, so I memorised a couple of quotes for each).

I'm doing America and China if that is of any help.

Really any help regarding memorising historians would be fantastic!!
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on July 27, 2017, 08:29:13 pm
Regarding the exam on a general level, how do you/did you chose what you would memorise historian's interpretations for?

At the UniMelb VCE Winter School a lecturer recommended 2 for each thing listed on the study design, but this just seems overwhelming. Especially since I haven't really found many sticking due to knowing the confines of both of my AOS1 SACS (e.g. for Source Analysis we were told 5 possible topics the SAC could be one, so I memorised a couple of quotes for each).

I'm doing America and China if that is of any help.

Really any help regarding memorising historians would be fantastic!!
Hi there madic! So, not sure how useful my advice will be given I did Revs with the old study design, but I'll try my best.

Can only speak for China, but the historian's interpretations/quotes I remembered were selected by my teacher, and there was generally about 3-5 quotes per block of years (i.e. for China: 1949-1953, 1954-1957, 1958-1961, 1962-1965 and 1966-1976).
My teacher's tips was to just remember a small quote that you could incorporate into your response - no need to remember a really long quote that will be hard to insert into your sentence :)

In terms of tips for memorisation - writing out the quotes a lot can help, I also put the quotes in a powerpoint (with the stem of the quote showing and me needing to press the spacebar to show the rest of the quote) and went through that heaps of times :) Associating the quote with a picture helped as well. It worked even better if the picture was a bit quirky or silly :P
You'll also find that as you write more and more practice pieces, the historian's interpretations become an automatic thing you remember. And, if all else fails, as long as you remember the general gist, that's better than nothing.

Really, there's no magic number of interpretations to remember - just make sure you know enough for you to be writing good quality responses :)

Oh, and I narrowed down the amount of interpretations I had to remember by going through all the past exams of the study design and predicting what time period the question I needed historiography (d. response of doc study for me, not sure what it's like on the new study design) for would be. Probably a bit hard with a study design that's only 2 years old though, unfortunately.

Hope that this helped! :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: patriciarose on July 27, 2017, 08:44:11 pm
Regarding the exam on a general level, how do you/did you chose what you would memorise historian's interpretations for?

At the UniMelb VCE Winter School a lecturer recommended 2 for each thing listed on the study design, but this just seems overwhelming. Especially since I haven't really found many sticking due to knowing the confines of both of my AOS1 SACS (e.g. for Source Analysis we were told 5 possible topics the SAC could be one, so I memorised a couple of quotes for each).

I'm doing America and China if that is of any help.

Really any help regarding memorising historians would be fantastic!!

you don't need historians for a + b questions, which does cut down the memorising, but you 100% do for c's, extended response questions and essays. idk if you need one for EVERY dot point (that might be super time consuming to remember), but there are some topics you just know you'll probably be writing on (stamp act, boston massacre, tea party, etc) because they're pretty important, so it'd be good to have a historian for each of those big ones. there's not necessarily a need for two historians per event if you have primary quotes + evidence as well (: you can generally tell what the 'big' events are because when you get a topic, it'll be those that come to mind initially, and they'll be relevant for a lot of questions. learn ones for the bigger events and then a few general ones (john adams' whole "revolution was in the hearts and minds of the people" thing is pretty amazing it's so versatile omg) in case you end up talking about something you don't have anything for, and you should be alright.

the way i memorise them is just using them tbh! make sure they're fairly short and put them into responses for the particular event until they come naturally when you start writing. and while you're getting used to that, having them on a stickynote on your desktop screen is kind of helpful because they pop up all the time. but some people i know use flashcards, or quizlet – seems kind of annoying to me but it's apparently pretty effective. (:
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on July 28, 2017, 08:31:38 pm
For the russian revolution (haventt studied tthe 1917 revolution) but why did the bolshevicks attack kournalov and agree to do what kerensky said if he was apart of the provisional govt
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: patriciarose on July 28, 2017, 11:08:53 pm
For the russian revolution (haventt studied tthe 1917 revolution) but why did the bolshevicks attack kournalov and agree to do what kerensky said if he was apart of the provisional govt

kornilov was basically attempting to establish martial law in russia, so dispose of the provisional government and rule it instead using the military (which would've effectively just been him ruling since he was the supreme commander at the time). though it can be argued he just misinterpreted an order from kerensky haha. it would have been counterproductive for the bolsheviks to allow the provisional government to be toppled (by anyone other than themselves, that is) because they were made much stronger by the government and military being at odds with each other. they had a better chance of overthrowing the provisional government than the whole army, basically.
also, kerensky literally offered to arm them with weapons which they later could (and did) use to overthrow him, and it wasn't a big risk for bolshevik supporters because the Soviets controlled the railways, so they could just prevent the trains from getting through. no need for fighting and losing numbers when the vast majority of kornilov's forces could be stopped at the stations haha.
aside from all the practical things, the whole affair highlights quite clearly where the real power was in petrograd: the provisional government couldn't defend the city, but the bolsheviks could. that's pretty powerful propaganda. (:

tl/dr: martial law would have been harder to overthrow than just the provisional government, the bolsheviks got a lot of weaponry out of the agreement, and also made themselves look strong af. (:

Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Help.Me. on July 31, 2017, 10:47:50 pm
Unsure about a few dot points in the study design for the Russian Revolution:
1. How did the formation of the Mensheviks and Bolsheviks contribute to the outbreak of revolution?
2. How did the dual authority contribute to the outbreak of revolution?
3. What is liberal reformism and revolutionary populsim and how did it challenge the existing order?

Any help is appreciated, thanks!  :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: patriciarose on July 31, 2017, 11:22:27 pm
Unsure about a few dot points in the study design for the Russian Revolution:
1. How did the formation of the Mensheviks and Bolsheviks contribute to the outbreak of revolution?
2. How did the dual authority contribute to the outbreak of revolution?
3. What is liberal reformism and revolutionary populsim and how did it challenge the existing order?

Any help is appreciated, thanks!  :)

1. both of them were fairly radical factions that were much more ready for a people's revolution when compared to others at the time, like the kadets, who were only angling for a constitutional monarchy. the mensheviks and bolsheviks basically offered to give the power to the people, which is a pretty compelling argument when you're a peasant or factory worker in tsarist russia with no control over your situation. so their formation gave the people a rallying point, organisation for their discomfort in regards to autocracy, and a more directed agenda (not so much in 1905, but definitely in 1917).

2 – dual authority meant that the provisional government had 'authority without power' and the petrograd soviet had 'power without authority.' because of this split, neither had enough control to enact any reform or social change, nor were they particularly ready to work together. therefore the issues plaguing society prior to the feb revolution (aka economic crisis, whole involvement in wwi situation, etc) weren't resolved, which meant that the people were still receptive to the idea of revolution: if the provisional government couldn't feed and protect them, then somebody ELSE would have to – there was no reason for the revolutionary sentiment to lessen.

3. liberal reformism is not something i really have an adequate definition/explanation for, sorry. it's basically just what it says on the tin honestly: the reformists supported modern reform in russian society, which challenged the existing society because implementing reforms within the constraints of autocracy is pretty difficult to do without undermining tsarism itself. nicholas ii was also notoriously against reforms because he liked having a little bit of control of everything, so not only did the concept challenge the autocratic system, it challenged the tsar, if that makes sense?

revolutionary populism is a weird movement to describe: the populists were pretty much solely composed of the intelligentsia and believed that revolution would have to be generated organically by the people, specifically the peasant class. (and then they went out and told the peasants that and the peasants ignored them, yup. but the populists were the people behind 'the people's will,' so they did have one big moment when they managed to assassinate tsar alexander ii! which is cool for them but also not part of our study design so nobody really cares that much tbh.) again, challenged the existing order because ... you can't have a socialist revolution and not impact the autocracy. it was challenged by the belief of these educated (that's pretty important) people that the peasants should be able to have the control that was currently resting with the tsar – there's not really any middle ground there omg. hopefully that's not super confusing? i've got much clearer definitions in my notes at school oops, so i might edit those in tomorrow (:
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Help.Me. on August 01, 2017, 08:38:44 pm
1. both of them were fairly radical factions that were much more ready for a people's revolution when compared to others at the time, like the kadets, who were only angling for a constitutional monarchy. the mensheviks and bolsheviks basically offered to give the power to the people, which is a pretty compelling argument when you're a peasant or factory worker in tsarist russia with no control over your situation. so their formation gave the people a rallying point, organisation for their discomfort in regards to autocracy, and a more directed agenda (not so much in 1905, but definitely in 1917).

2 – dual authority meant that the provisional government had 'authority without power' and the petrograd soviet had 'power without authority.' because of this split, neither had enough control to enact any reform or social change, nor were they particularly ready to work together. therefore the issues plaguing society prior to the feb revolution (aka economic crisis, whole involvement in wwi situation, etc) weren't resolved, which meant that the people were still receptive to the idea of revolution: if the provisional government couldn't feed and protect them, then somebody ELSE would have to – there was no reason for the revolutionary sentiment to lessen.

3. liberal reformism is not something i really have an adequate definition/explanation for, sorry. it's basically just what it says on the tin honestly: the reformists supported modern reform in russian society, which challenged the existing society because implementing reforms within the constraints of autocracy is pretty difficult to do without undermining tsarism itself. nicholas ii was also notoriously against reforms because he liked having a little bit of control of everything, so not only did the concept challenge the autocratic system, it challenged the tsar, if that makes sense?

revolutionary populism is a weird movement to describe: the populists were pretty much solely composed of the intelligentsia and believed that revolution would have to be generated organically by the people, specifically the peasant class. (and then they went out and told the peasants that and the peasants ignored them, yup. but the populists were the people behind 'the people's will,' so they did have one big moment when they managed to assassinate tsar alexander ii! which is cool for them but also not part of our study design so nobody really cares that much tbh.) again, challenged the existing order because ... you can't have a socialist revolution and not impact the autocracy. it was challenged by the belief of these educated (that's pretty important) people that the peasants should be able to have the control that was currently resting with the tsar – there's not really any middle ground there omg. hopefully that's not super confusing? i've got much clearer definitions in my notes at school oops, so i might edit those in tomorrow (:
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: mmikh99 on August 10, 2017, 07:05:29 pm
is it helpful to look at past exams and try to guess the topic or at least eliminate what won't be on the coming exam? For example, last year there was a question on the Cheka for Russia, so it mostly likely won't be on the exam this year.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: patriciarose on August 10, 2017, 07:36:52 pm
there's only one past exam for the current study design, so there's no guarantee the questions won't be similar to the ones they asked prior to 2016, when the old study design was still in use. so i don't think you physically can guess the topic haha, and in terms of eliminating, i don't think that really works because even if the specific question doesn't mention the cheka, you can still discuss them in your answer if it's relevant (and it probably will be). since a lot of the questions kind of leave it up to you to figure out what you want to talk about, there's no point not learning about the cheka because the exam asked about it last year so it won't explicitly ask for them this year; you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by excluding them because they tied into so many events in russia AOS2.

the only thing you might be able to work out is if the questions will be narrow or wide – for example, the essay prompt might have been focused on a particular event or person last year, which suggests it'll probably be more general this year. but idk whether that's worth bothering about unless it makes you feel better to have a general idea of something which may or may not come true haha.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on August 11, 2017, 11:11:32 pm
is it helpful to look at past exams and try to guess the topic or at least eliminate what won't be on the coming exam? For example, last year there was a question on the Cheka for Russia, so it mostly likely won't be on the exam this year.
My two cents:

This worked for me, with the past study design, because I had years of past exams to go off. I correctly guessed the timeframes for the 3 or 4 pointer questions and doc study for China, which was super helpful. But it's really hard to do with new study designs, and as patriciarose said, even if the question doesn't specifically mention the Cheka, you could likely still end up writing about them. You're better off making sure you know everything well, but perhaps if time gets tight with revision, it'll give you something you might not have to revise as closely.
The key with predicting questions for Revs (if you're gonna do it) to me, is to pick the timeframe, not the specific question. I don't know how you study it in your class, but we studied things in timeframes/groups of years that fit together (one example being say, 1949-1953, 1953-1957, and so on for China).

One key point though - VCAA like to stick things in that have historically been done poorly. So make sure you read over the examiner's report, as you might find that they'll incorporate some stuff that was done poorly last year in this year's exam (will likely not be overt, though). :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on August 12, 2017, 10:20:55 am
it would have been counterproductive for the bolsheviks to allow the provisional government to be toppled (by anyone other than themselves, that is) because they were made much stronger by the government and military being at odds with each other. they had a better chance of overthrowing the provisional government than the whole army, basically.

Thanks! sorry for the late reply but also,
If they were made much stronger by the government and millitary being at odds with one another it doesnt make sense that they will effectively attempt to kill of the army either way to act in a major counter revolutionary manner

how i think about it now was that Kornilov as well was a threat to the Soviets as he was a version of the old who he absolutely despised the bolshevicks and soviets and was a counter revolutionary threat due to his radical ideas and his position and ability
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on September 08, 2017, 04:40:11 pm
'The Bolshevik alternative was to vest both managerial and control powers in the state'
So this was the bolsheviks response to factory commitee leaders attempting to impose their syndical model (where workers union control the means of production). My question is does this mean lenin instead wanted to the industries and factories to be controlled by the government instead of the workers which angered left wing people in his party
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 11, 2017, 04:18:11 pm
'The Bolshevik alternative was to vest both managerial and control powers in the state'
So this was the bolsheviks response to factory commitee leaders attempting to impose their syndical model (where workers union control the means of production). My question is does this mean lenin instead wanted to the industries and factories to be controlled by the government instead of the workers which angered left wing people in his party
Yep, so during this time, the Bolsheviks were establishing and running State Capitalism. They'd inherited a country that was essentially in financial ruin - it was crippled. They were fighting a very costly war (like, there were still a million or so soldiers on the Eastern Front at the end of 1917), the industrial sector was basically non-functioning because of strikes, the train/transport network sucked big time, and they were struggling to feed people in the cities.
So, State Capitalism was a bit of a bridging thing between the Bolshevik takeover and implementation of socialist policies. It was designed to turn the economy around and give the Bolsheviks something to work with. As a part of State Capitalism, the Bolsheviks would have control over the major sectors of the economy - heavy industry, mining, finance, factories, that sort of thing.
As an aside, this was a return to Marxist policy by Lenin - as Marx had argued that capitalism had to be developed before socialism can occur.

So, this angered the syndicalists - whose movement had sprung up under the time of the Provisional Government. But the key thing is, Lenin said that syndicalism needed to wait for a later time - what he needed to immediately establish was a strong and stable economy, in order to allow Russia to survive. Unfortunately though, this alienated both the syndicalists and the left-wing of his party - the latter particularly because they saw this as a move away from proper socialism, and believed that Lenin and the Bolsheviks were compromising their vision, etc.

So, in a nutshell/tl;dr:
- The Bolsheviks inherited a Russia that was unstable, and basically in complete financial ruin. They needed to stabilise the economy if they had any hope of saving the country and their power
- Bolshevik control of the factories/industry was a key part of State Capitalism (which Lenin saw as a transitional phase between them taking power and them moving onto proper socialism, as well as allowing him to stabilise the economy)
- This angered the left wing of his party, because they believed Lenin was compromising socialist values

Want to emphasise how important it is to understand State Capitalism here :)
Hope this helped! Please let me know if you need any clarification.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Mapleflame on September 14, 2017, 06:55:07 pm

Does anyone have/know where to find a list of practice essay questions?
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 14, 2017, 07:06:09 pm
Does anyone have/know where to find a list of practice essay questions?

Best to ask your teacher, as they should have some resources available to them, or should be able to see if the school can purchase these resources for you.
I believe http://alphahistory.com/ also has some essay questions available, unsure whether they fit the style of the exam essay questions. I think also depending on the textbook you have, the textbook should have some practice questions in it :)

Would really recommend asking your teacher though, because they can also always make up essay questions for you - I got my teacher to do this for me when I did Revs.

All the best! :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: oJL8A99A on September 25, 2017, 09:57:44 pm
I'm just wondering, for Section A questions 2 and 3 (the 10 markers) do we need to include historians in our responses?

I've heard mixed answers from my teachers, lecturers, and other students and I don't know whether to be safe and include them or save myself time memorising other pieces of evidence.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 25, 2017, 10:34:57 pm
I'm just wondering, for Section A questions 2 and 3 (the 10 markers) do we need to include historians in our responses?

I've heard mixed answers from my teachers, lecturers, and other students and I don't know whether to be safe and include them or save myself time memorising other pieces of evidence.

Thanks  :)
Hi there!
So, these questions are basically the new equivalent of the 3 or 4 pointers from the old study design (when I did Revs)- didn't need historians interpretations in those ones.
However, I just read over the exam report from last year:
Quote from: VCAA
These questions began with the command word ‘explain’ and students should have focused on using primary sources and historical interpretations as evidence to support an argument about the consequences of the Revolution. The highest-scoring answers presented an array of detailed and precise evidence from primary sources and historical interpretations. Answers should always include dates for named legislation or events, and many students placed this in brackets. Some responses included evidence from historical interpretations, but this often disrupted the flow of a tightly controlled argument. The highest-scoring answers began with a one-sentence contention or outline. This helped to focus the response and keep the supporting details focused on the question. High-scoring answers also tended to either use paragraphs or signpost phrases to announce the start of each point and organise the steps in an argument.

Even VCAA are giving mixed signals! The example of the high scoring response has some historian viewpoints in there, though. So to me, it seems that including the historians, as long as you're at the point of comfortably writing high scoring responses/know how to integrate the viewpoint(s), can really be helpful.
VCAA's quote about the example:
Quote from: VCAA
Its strength is also the presentation of detailed evidence from primary sources and historical interpretations that is weighed carefully in the construction of the argument.
So - if you can do it well, from this, I'd say put it in! Why not maximise your marks? Imo, seems like you could still score a high mark with a well written piece (making sure you're focusing on answering the question, not just explaining events) without a historian viewpoint, but I'd argue that as long as you can fit it in well, it'd enrich your piece. The thing about Revs is that it's so important to nail how you answer questions, so I guess you need to ask yourself whether including the historians is gonna make your answers of better quality, or whether it won't.
I mean like, in the end, it doesn't overtly say you have to include historian viewpoints in there - so, probably repeating myself, but I'd argue that you can score well either way. It's not like it says you have to reference other views (unlike in your c. response in question 1).

What does your teacher say? Is there something said specifically in the study design?
Maybe ask your teacher if they can get in contact with a VCAA marker/the head examiner? My teacher regularly liaised with VCAA History people to make sure my class was doing things the best possible way - and I seriously credit that and his general efforts as the main reason I did well :) HTAV might also be worth contacting.

If anyone else has any opinions or a more clear-cut answer, would be glad to hear it!

I'm gonna go have a look over the study design and resources on the VCAA website to see if I can find out anything further :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: patriciarose on September 28, 2017, 09:16:37 pm
I'm just wondering, for Section A questions 2 and 3 (the 10 markers) do we need to include historians in our responses?

I've heard mixed answers from my teachers, lecturers, and other students and I don't know whether to be safe and include them or save myself time memorising other pieces of evidence.

Thanks  :)

adding on to the last part of what K888, some people scored high 40s in revs at my school last year, so first year of this study design, and basically we've been taught that you don't need historians for Qs 2&3 but you can use them providing they don't override your primary quotes. the main thing seems to be not letting historians make your argument for you, or drown out your evidence (: but it's definitely possible to get all the marks without it! it's not like a C question where you need a historian for every point (:
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: fish99 on October 18, 2017, 04:43:30 pm
Does anyone have some punchy Enlightenment quotes for American Revolution?
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: madic on October 29, 2017, 06:36:12 pm
With America AOS2, would you count the key knowledge regarding 'economic development' as the actions of Robert Morris (e.g. organising loans from international banks and banning Congress' paper notes)?
Or the ability of Congress to tax under the Constitution (replacing their powers w/ the Articles of Confederation) and states being unable to coin money?

Is there more that I am forgetting?
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 03, 2017, 12:59:15 pm
With America AOS2, would you count the key knowledge regarding 'economic development' as the actions of Robert Morris (e.g. organising loans from international banks and banning Congress' paper notes)?
Or the ability of Congress to tax under the Constitution (replacing their powers w/ the Articles of Confederation) and states being unable to coin money?

Is there more that I am forgetting?
I have very limited knowledge of the American revolution, so hopefully someone can answer specifically! But, from the principles of revs that I know, these seem fine. As long as you have something to write, and you think that you can back yourself up (particularly relating it to the consequences of revolution), then you're all good. :)
If you're stuck, Alpha History provide some pretty good info, and there might be something helpful in the notes section of AN.


Just a general reminder (to anyone reading) that AOS2 is all about the consequences of revolution - the challenges that were faced, etc. These are the key questions to ask for AOS2 (taken from the study design):
- How did the consequences of revolution shape the new order?
- How did the new regime consolidate its power?
- How did the revolution affect the experiences of those who lived through it?
- To what extent was society changed and revolutionary ideas achieved?

I think a big thing to focus on is how revolutionary ideologies are often compromised after the revolution due to the consequences of challenges.
If you can analyse the challenges the new regimes faced, and assess the success of the new regime in addressing the challenges and evaluate the extent to which there was wide-reaching/dramatic change (whether this be progress or decline), you'll be sweet. :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on November 04, 2017, 11:31:18 am
Hey i was just wondering for the russian revolution, how did the provisional government have a middlclass parlimentary democracy and why do utalk about think when answering the question 'how did the formation of the provisional government in Feb 1917 contribute to the developmentt of the russian revolution'?
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: oJL8A99A on November 04, 2017, 01:12:16 pm
Can someone explain Witte and Stolypin's roles in creating revolutionary tensions for AOS1 Russia please?  :) :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on November 04, 2017, 03:29:08 pm
Can someone explain Witte and Stolypin's roles in creating revolutionary tensions for AOS1 Russia please?  :) :)
Witte was the minister of finance up until 1903. His task was to ensure Russia modernised in the most efficient and quickest ways possible. One of the ways he did this was through setting up factories in the cities and his trans siberian railway (21 july 1904). Witte attempted to modernise Russia through incentivising capital inflow from allied nations or foreign nations, this was achived by the low wages and long hours worked from the people. His modernisation created a growth in workers moving into the capital with the hope of improving their lives, the growth outmatched the cities ability to provide homes for the workers meaning the firms provided housing for the workers. This resulted in firms taking advantage of workers. A 1904 survey found that there were on average 16 people per aparetment with 6 people per room. Likewise the factory managers made workers work long days and week (12 hour days) in unsafe and unhygeninc conditions where people often got injured. This would hgrow a proletariat class suspectible to revolutionary ideas as their lives was a misery and they thoughtber  their lives would improve but it only got worse

Stolypin was the finance minister who replaced Witte. He helped regain the tsar's power. The october manifesto (26 october 1905) saw the tsar agree to create a duma which would represent the nation as deputies within the duma would be elected by the people and no laws could be pass until approved by the duma. Along with Nicholas Stolypin was able to regain the tsars power by implenting the electoral laws (it was him not the tsar who created this law right??). What the electoral laws did was recude the ability of the  ordianry poor like peasants and proleteriants to vote as they would obviously vote for the radcial deputies who challenged the tsars authority. (As was the case with the first duma who were dismissed bbecause of this)  it now took 230 landowners' vote to elect one deputy where as it took 125000 industrial workers votes to elect one deputy
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 04, 2017, 05:42:12 pm
Hey i was just wondering for the russian revolution, how did the provisional government have a middlclass parlimentary democracy and why do utalk about think when answering the question 'how did the formation of the provisional government in Feb 1917 contribute to the developmentt of the russian revolution'?
Alrighty, so, to answer the middle class stuff - all you have to do is look at the make-up of the PG. The core was drawn from a provisional committee of Duma deputies. It first had 12 ministers - seven Kadets (one of these being Miliukov), the first prime minister was Lvov (a wealthy landowner and also minor royal, I believe), and the only true socialist was Kerensky (an SR).
Now, compare this to the make-up of Russian society. The majority of people were not middle class - I think from here, you can probably explain yourself why this difference was an issue. :) Imagine being a Russian peasant, and hearing that the Tsar has been overthrown, only to hear that he's been replaced by people who are, to you, effectively the same.

Moving on to the second part of your question - I think, with the info I've given you, you can probably answer why the middle class make-up of the PG was important in creating a revolutionary situation. They didn't really represent the Russian people - leading to disenchantment, etc. and so on and so forth. :)

There was other stuff like the rise of the Petrograd Soviet, the fact that the Provisional Government was exactly that - provisional - so it didn't have a mandate, wasn't elected by the people and it was a temporary government (so their decrees weren't necessarily respected). Plus, the Bolsheviks outright objected to the PG.
Additionally, they had the issue of what to do with WWI - keep their promises to the Allies, or withdraw? Remember the economic situation in Russia at the time. But either way, Miliukov's telegram that committed Russia to the war was essentially a monumental fuck up.


I hope this has given you the info to go and have a crack at the question yourself. Just let me know if you need any further clarification :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: mindy.mcewen on November 07, 2017, 03:17:44 pm
This is in the Study Design for AOS2...

 How did the new regime consolidate its power?

I was wondering how you would answer this for the French Rev? Like through the Terror, Committees of Public Safety/General Security? That kind of thing or?  ???
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 07, 2017, 04:05:43 pm
This is in the Study Design for AOS2...

 How did the new regime consolidate its power?

I was wondering how you would answer this for the French Rev? Like through the Terror, Committees of Public Safety/General Security? That kind of thing or?  ???
Hey, I didn't do France, but I hope I can give some help regardless :)

Basically when you're answering that question, you need to think of the different ways the regime could consolidate its power, which generally falls into the categories of: political, social and military. I guess economic could also make its own category. I don't know the other revolutions, but there seems to the be theme that the new regime often resorted to violence, completely eliminating opposition and the like to consolidate power.

Ask yourself: how did they eliminate or address political opposition? How did they gain the support of the people - what social reforms were made to help them consolidate power? What other reforms did they make - did economic reforms help them stay in power? Did they violently suppress opposition, and if they did, how so?

From the limited knowledge I have of France (and from a quick google), what you've said seems to be pretty good :) Just think of the challenges that the regime faced, and how it addressed those challenges to stay in power.

To provide an example answer, in Russia - the Bolsheviks consolidated their power through Sovnarkom decrees that were to lead to social reform (gaining the support of the people), they eliminated political opposition by shutting down the Constituent Assembly, they instigated the Red Terror, and they used the Cheka.

All the best for the exam tomorrow! What other revolution are you doing? :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: madic on November 07, 2017, 04:22:49 pm
Can someone explain the social and economic inequalities for China AOS1 as a cause of the Revolution?
I have very little on this and have stupidly ignored it because I assumed I'd have to incorporate the Qing (obviously outside of the Study Design) in it :(
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: mindy.mcewen on November 07, 2017, 04:27:43 pm
Thanks for that!  :D..makes heaps more sense now..! :D

I am also doing the American Revolution....
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 07, 2017, 05:42:53 pm
Can someone explain the social and economic inequalities for China AOS1 as a cause of the Revolution?
I have very little on this and have stupidly ignored it because I assumed I'd have to incorporate the Qing (obviously outside of the Study Design) in it :(
So, I admittedly don't know how things have changed with the new study design, but I reckon that whilst it's important to know this, it'd be pretty stiff if you got a question specifically on the inequalities.
VCAA have historically had a strong focus on ideas, leaders, movements and events (with events and ideas being particularly important) - which, y'know, is stated in the study design, because these 4 components are the foundation of any revolution. :)

Whilst the Qing dynasty is out of the study design now (which, imo, sucks, as it, or rather, the knock on effects it had, play an important part in AOS1), I'd hope that you could talk about the lasting effects from it that occurred within the study design. Whilst the Qing was gone, change didn't happen overnight, and a lot of inequality still existed during the time of the republic - don't forget, the republic failed pretty miserably at addressing China's problems (in the way that people wanted them to be addressed).

- Consider the 21 Demands, and the economic impacts that had on China, and the dissatisfaction created within the Chinese people as a result.
- Think about how the inequalities led to the New Culture Movement, which rebuked traditional Chinese culture and not only promoted nationalist ideas, but also promoted Marxism (and was a contributor to the development of the CCP).
- What about Yuan Shikai and everything he did? His abdication, and the subsequent Warlord Era? How would that have impacted the Chinese people?
- There was also the death of Sun Yat-sen - his Three Principles of the People were a unifying ideology (what are the consequences of this?), and without him, there was a split in the GMD, Chiang Kai-shek rose to power (think of all the ramifications of this), etc.
- The Nationalist Decade - Chiang developed the city, but left the countryside to stagnate --> this led to both social and economic inequality for those living in the countryside (which was most of China - in 1930, Chiang's government only controlled ~25% of the population!)
- The persecution of the Communists - the Shanghai Massacre, the Encirclement Campaigns (and the subsequent Long March)
- Also consider how inequalities led people to support the CCP - the CCP gained some pretty significant peasant support as a result of their promises to improve life for the peasants and others. Think about the social reforms that the CCP instigated at Jiangxi, and how the CCP killed the exploitative warlords to gain peasant support.

In the end, I think it's just really important to think about what economic and social inequalities led to - it wasn't just like, for example, "the peasants were mistreated, and the revolution happened" - there was a flow on effect - the inequalities that the peasants faced, led them to do this that and the other, which helped the CCP gain support/led to dissatisfaction with the nationalists/etc. which contributed to a revolutionary situation.

I hope this made some sense and that it's clarified things for you. :) All the best for tomorrow!
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheCommando on November 07, 2017, 07:59:59 pm
Hey Commando!

I think the key point here is that not all nobles enjoyed and wanted to keep these privileges. There was a small minority of nobles - 'liberal nobles' - that weren't happy with the current system. These nobles looked towards England as a model of what France ought to become, i.e. a constitutional monarchy. Essentially, they learnt to challenge these traditional structures and to believe that a better society was possible.

There were actually instances of nobles 'giving up' their feudal rights and privileges. This led to the abolition of feudalism entirely on August 4th, 1789.

Quite a few historians have touched on this subject, so it's worth having a read around for anything of significance! I'll leave you with this quote from Doyle which I think explains it quite well:

In regards to your second question, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Could you maybe elaborate? :)
Just reading it now and just thought i'd add onto this. Not all feudaliism was abolished since some feudalist things, the landowner or noble had to be first compensated before the feudal due was removed
Also it got removed later, where all feudal dues were removed witghout compensation. (Cant remeber when will look)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: mindy.mcewen on November 07, 2017, 09:05:56 pm
The other one I am stuck on is "how did the consequences of rev shape new society" for America?

Is this referring to particular events/individuals/ideals that had an impact on revolution or?  ???

Thanks in advance...!  :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: madic on November 07, 2017, 09:40:17 pm
The other one I am stuck on is "how did the consequences of rev shape new society" for America?

Is this referring to particular events/individuals/ideals that had an impact on revolution or?  ???

Thanks in advance...!  :)


Hey! I'm completing Revs myself (just reading thru America AOS2 right now!) so I apologise if this isn't the best information.
But I do believe that is all inclusive of events/individuals/ideas. It's a pretty big idea that kind of stems across all of the key knowledge.
It's really just considering how events in AOS2 led to changes in the new society

For example:
- How no longer being apart of the British Crown caused need for some sort of political framework - which then led to the Articles of Confederation and, when this failed, the Constitution. An example of how the new society was shaped politically.

- The power of George Washington at war - how this shaped the morale of the Continental Army and thus the new society (especially how this leadership shaped him as a model of the republic, leading to his presidency). A social and political example.

- How the economic challenges (war debt, being unable to pay soldiers' salaries, Congress' lack of power over taxes and trade under the AoC) shaped the new society - (again, the change from the AoC to the Constitution is a big one here. Then you can consider how the Constitution further shaped society as it showed, through the ratification debates, the lack of unification that existed in the new society)

- How the revolutionary ideas were actually upheld by the new society - e.g. how 'liberty' did not extend to all (women, Native Americans, slaves being the primary examples)

Hope this somewhat helps! :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: mindy.mcewen on November 07, 2017, 10:12:44 pm
hey...thats awesome! Thanks heaps...!!
& gud luck with your exam tomorrow...!!  :) :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 07, 2017, 10:23:58 pm
Just wanted to say good luck for tomorrow guys, you'll all smash it!
Send through any last minute questions if you have them tonight, but I won't be able to answer any questions tomorrow until a bit after midday as I have an exam myself :)

Please come back and discuss the exam afterwards, btw :) There should be a thread for it.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Cactus Jack x Huncho on November 07, 2017, 10:49:30 pm
Just wanted to say good luck for tomorrow guys, you'll all smash it!
Send through any last minute questions if you have them tonight, but I won't be able to answer any questions tomorrow until a bit after midday as I have an exam myself :)

Please come back and discuss the exam afterwards, btw :) There should be a thread for it.

appreciate your commitment and kindness man! We shall all kill the exam tomorrow!
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 07, 2017, 10:59:44 pm
appreciate your commitment and kindness man! We shall all kill the exam tomorrow!
Not a single issue, always happy to help the revs fam :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Cactus Jack x Huncho on November 07, 2017, 11:16:26 pm
Not a single issue, always happy to help the revs fam :)

anyway, while youre at it - could you give me some main events or points that feed straight into the cult of mao? thanks, man.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on November 08, 2017, 01:19:10 pm
anyway, while youre at it - could you give me some main events or points that feed straight into the cult of mao? thanks, man.
Sorry about getting to this late :)

A lot of the cult of Mao stuff is from AOS2, but as early as AOS1 he was working at creating it.
I mean, the great majority of the CCP's actions in some way worked to develop the cult of Mao, but here are some specifics (I won't necessarily explain, as I think you can probably reason why each of these events contributed to the cult of Mao yourself):

AOS1 (probably not the main focus):
- The Futian Purges - by eliminating opposition, who he claimed were counter-revolutionaries/supporters of Li Lishan/members of the GMD anti-Bolshevik League, Mao was able to solidify his status and leader, etc.
- The Long March - made for excellent propaganda
- The establishment of Yan'an

AOS2:
- The review of Hai Rui Dismissed From Office
- The whole Cultural Revolution - particularly the May 16 Circular, the emergence of the Red Guards, Mao's good swim, the 11th Plenum and 16 Points, the expulsion of Liu Shaoqi from the CCP and mass CCP purge

In AOS2 there's also stuff like the Hundred Flowers Campaign and Anti-Rightist Campaign, the Socialist Education Movement, the Gao Gang Affair, Thought Reform, Speak Bitterness, etc.

Hope this gives you something :) Really, the main thing is the Cultural Revolution - its purpose was to install Maoist thought as the main ideology in China, which, if you think about it - is just a way of saying re-establishing Mao's power and creating a cult of personality around him.

Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on February 10, 2018, 02:40:54 pm
Just wanting to bump this for any Revs students out there who might be wanting some help or advice :D


I'm happy to help with questions about the Chinese and Russian revolutions :)

Hey, so i’m studying Russian Revolution right now. I have my first sac this friday. I need help with knowing what and how many as well as who for the historian quotes to memorise. Also, if you have any memorisation techniques, that would be great.

Thank! Appreciate your help in advance.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Ceeramist on February 11, 2018, 12:05:04 pm
Hey, so i’m studying Russian Revolution right now. I have my first sac this friday. I need help with knowing what and how many as well as who for the historian quotes to memorise. Also, if you have any memorisation techniques, that would be great.

Thank! Appreciate your help in advance.
Revise generic views of a historian over quotes. Quotes can get dicey and hard to recall under pressure, so only use the ones that just STICk very easily, for others its easier to say 'Figes contends that x' or 'Acton poses y'
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on February 20, 2018, 10:31:12 pm
There you go, this is now the revs question thread :)

HI there!

I'm doing Revs as a 3/4 in year 11. I was wondering, in reference to study notes for sacs, what details or subheadings should I put my information under? How should I balance out the information, and how much notes should I wrote? Should I heavily explain concepts or add in a lot of evidence? What sort of information should I study most.

All help appreciated! :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: ellellen on February 20, 2018, 11:31:44 pm
HI there!

I'm doing Revs as a 3/4 in year 11. I was wondering, in reference to study notes for sacs, what details or subheadings should I put my information under? How should I balance out the information, and how much notes should I wrote? Should I heavily explain concepts or add in a lot of evidence? What sort of information should I study most.

All help appreciated! :)

I organised my notes under four headings:

1. People
2. Movements
3. Events
4. Ideas

If you look in the study guide, it specifically states what you need to know about for each of these headings! Eg for Russia under "People" you need to know people like Nicholas II, Lenin, Trotsky, Tsarina Alexandra, Rasputin, Stolypin, etc. These become your subheadings, and for each of these, write a few dot points about: who they are, what they did, and how their actions contributed to causing a revolutionary situation. Also include any quotes made by them or about them.

It's really up to you on how much you should write under each heading! Write enough so that you understand the role each person/movement/idea/event played in leading up to the revolution, or how it was a consequence of the revolution/ a challenge to the revolution. Write enough so that next semester when you look at your notes, they help you to remember what you learnt /this/ semester!!!

Other stuff to ensure you include is lots of relevant historian quotes and statistics. Historian quotes are great to include in some of your SACs, but they also serve the second purpose of helping you to work out what your own opinion is on an issue! Read loTS written by historians and you'll start to think to yourself "wow I really agree with what Orlando Figes thinks!" or "wow I disagree with Richard Pipes' opinion on this issue!!!!" This is useful for exam questions when you need your own perspective to shine through. If you've spent time during the semester already consolidating your own opinions and working out what you think about certain issues, it becomes 100000x easier when you get to doing practice exams!!!!

Feel free to ask any more questions :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Special One on February 21, 2018, 02:59:27 am
Ah Revs the subject I found the hardest personally, basically two subjects rolled into one.

The study design had just changed so I went into the dark with the exam due to the new layout.

Practice doing history exams as soon as possible even if you can't answer all questions yet. You'll need to get used to writing fast I jexam conditions for Revs as so many people run out of time.

Other than that I'll happily stick around here and answer questions people may have about the French and American Revolution.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on February 21, 2018, 07:02:08 pm
I organised my notes under four headings:

1. People
2. Movements
3. Events
4. Ideas

[...]

Feel free to ask any more questions :)

Hey!

Thanks for this. Really apprieciate it.

I was wondering if you could elaborate on what exactly you put in those four subheadings, and what exactly does 'ideas' subheading mean?

This is an example of one of my notes that I formulated for my first sac:

Bloody Sunday
When: 9 Jan 1905
What:
      o Follow St. Petersburg workers strikes (120,000 ppl – 3-8 jan)
      o Father Gapon led workers to present peaceful petition to tsar for:
              Income tax
              Trade union rights
              Eight hour working days
Result: troops attacked mobs
      o 200 killed
      o 400 injured
Consequence: tsar blamed + not trust
Historian quote: “The Monarchy’s fate hung by a thread” – Robert Service

Do you have any suggestions on what to exclude/include? Also, is there any relevant tips on studying revs that you can offer? In my case, I can understand the content, but knowing how much and what specifically to know is what I'm confused about.

(BTW:  I'm doing the Russian and American revo)

Thanks! Much appreciated.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: ellellen on February 22, 2018, 12:10:06 am
Hey!

Thanks for this. Really apprieciate it.

I was wondering if you could elaborate on what exactly you put in those four subheadings, and what exactly does 'ideas' subheading mean?

This is an example of one of my notes that I formulated for my first sac:

Bloody Sunday
When: 9 Jan 1905
What:
      o Follow St. Petersburg workers strikes (120,000 ppl – 3-8 jan)
      o Father Gapon led workers to present peaceful petition to tsar for:
              Income tax
              Trade union rights
              Eight hour working days
Result: troops attacked mobs
      o 200 killed
      o 400 injured
Consequence: tsar blamed + not trust
Historian quote: “The Monarchy’s fate hung by a thread” – Robert Service

Do you have any suggestions on what to exclude/include? Also, is there any relevant tips on studying revs that you can offer? In my case, I can understand the content, but knowing how much and what specifically to know is what I'm confused about.

(BTW:  I'm doing the Russian and American revo)

Thanks! Much appreciated.

Okay so these four headings are taken straight from the study design
(http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/history/HistorySD-2016.pdf)

On p. 62, it says you need to be able to answer:
•    What were the significant causes of revolution?
•    How did the actions of popular movements and particular individuals contribute to triggering a revolution?
•    To what extent did social tensions and ideological conflicts contribute to the outbreak of revolution?


These are the big questions you need to be able to answer about the first area of study. The study design then goes on to outline the specific knowledge you need to know, and groups it under the four categories of individuals, events, movements, and ideas.

So like it says in the study design, the "ideas" about Outcome 1 of the American revolution it wants you to focus on include "the Enlightenment, Natural Rights, Taxation without representation, Representative Government, Republicanism, and Liberty" and for Russia Outcome 1 "Nationalism, Liberal reformism, Revolutionary Populism, Marxism and Marxist-Leninism". So essentially asking, how did the proliferation of these specific ideas help cause the revolution?

For the other headings; look at what is specifically mentioned in the study design. For everything in the study design, this is what you should devote most of your notes to - these notes should be the most in depth and have the most historian quotes. For things that aren't listed in the study design, your notes don't need to be as completely in depth.

The example you have of Bloody Sunday is very good for just a brief summary of the event, and will definitely be helpful when you need to refresh your memory about what happened on Bloody Sunday when you revise your notes next semester. But, Bloody Sunday was a BIG event in Russia area of study 1. Therefore I think you need some more detail about what its significance was in contributing to the revolution.

Eg. adding info like:
- Although Nicholas II wasn’t present, he was ultimately held responsible for the massacre, greatly damaging the image of the tsar as “little father” guardian of the Russian people, becoming “Bloody Nicholas/ Nicholas the Bloody”
- Although protests prior to Bloody Sunday had been moderate and largely confined to urban workers, news of the massacre motivated political upheaval from all sectors of society.
- The outraged reaction to Bloody Sunday spread through universities around the country. Students went on strike in large numbers, turning campuses into “centres of political agitation”; in Moscow alone over 3000 students staged a rally, burning a portrait of the Tsar and hanging red flags from the building. On March 18th, the authorities ordered all institutions of higher learning closed for the remainder of the academic year.

Also, for big events like Bloody Sunday, you need to know multiple historical perspectives. The Robert Service quote you currently have is really good, but try and find more historical quotes from different perspectives!

The statistics you have about how many were petitioning, and how many were killed/ injured are really good, and you should try and include similar stats for all your events!


Other general study tips for revs are:
- Since history is SO content heavy, you need to frequently reread your old notes, so you don't forget things. This is so easy and just means that like once a month, you just read through all your notes again, just to get a quick refresher. This was one thing I didn't do enough. I did Russia semester 1 and France semester 2. When I finished my final sac for France and went back to start revising Russia, I couldn't believe how much I had forgotten. Even if you are in semester 2 and really busy studying your second revolution, ALWAYS make a tiny bit of time to revise your first revolution!

- Make timelines!!!!!!!!!!!! This is sosososo helpful. I found timelines made it easier to kind of visualise how one event lead on to another. I made my timelines as a table with 3 columns.
1st column: Date of event
2nd column: Name of event
3rd column: Significance of this event - in this column i wrote 3 or 4 dot points about why this event was so instrumental in leading up to a revolution (in area of study one), OR why this event was significant as a consequence of the revolution (area of study two).

- Alphahistory is your friend http://alphahistory.com/russianrevolution/ they have very comprehensive summaries of events which are very useful, mindmaps, historian quotes, images and documents that are great for practising doc studies. Basically, alphahistory is an amazing resource that i highly recommend

- Read. Read widely and read often. Read a large variety of historian opinions. Watch documentaries. The more you immerse yourself in learning your revolutions, the easier it will be to think of things to write about in sacs and exams. this is advice that i wish i had taken when I did revs, and that I have only truly learnt from studying history at university.

I hope this is a little helpful! :)

Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on February 22, 2018, 01:51:22 am
Just to add a different viewpoint, you don't have to make an encyclopaedia full of notes. I got a raw 45 and maybe wrote 2 pages worth of notes in my exercise book across the whole year?

My alternative was using mnemonics to memorise stuff and also using PowerPoint as a sort of Quizlet thing that I could flick through with the important stuff I needed to remember. Made the easier than memorising whole chunks of text :) then, complementing this was answering heaps of practice questions so I got my answering technique down pat and knew how to structure responses.

I'd also recommend giving Anki a shot to help you remember stuff. :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on February 26, 2018, 07:20:40 pm

Hi there again.

Do you know where I can find resources such as extra readings or documentaries that would help me expand my knowledge on the revolutions (without having to pay for books)?

Thanks! I really appreciate your help.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Special One on February 26, 2018, 09:09:18 pm
Hi there again.

Do you know where I can find resources such as extra readings or documentaries that would help me expand my knowledge on the revolutions (without having to pay for books)?

Thanks! I really appreciate your help.

I'm not OP so I'm sure they'll add something too  but teachers really like Alpha Histeoy as a resource as it has accurate information and it's really detailed too.

It really helped me when I did Revs it may be a site which  what you're looking for.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on February 26, 2018, 09:22:04 pm
Hi there again.

Do you know where I can find resources such as extra readings or documentaries that would help me expand my knowledge on the revolutions (without having to pay for books)?

Thanks! I really appreciate your help.
Like TSO said, alphahistory is a great resource :) Apart from that, I'd ask your teacher for recommendations! They'll probably have a heap of extra stuff they can give you.

I think there's also a list of suggested resources on the study design for Revs, so you could explore those.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: i_spy_sarcasm on February 28, 2018, 09:38:02 pm
Hey everyone, was just wondering if anyone had any good historical interpretations or dates regarding The Enlightenment and the Divine Monarchy for the French Revs? I'm trying to find some that aren't too big, but all I keep getting are historical quotes, not interpretations.
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: deb0005 on March 01, 2018, 03:09:53 pm
Hello!
Just wondering if you have any tips for answering sac/exam questions?
Thank you :)
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 03, 2018, 10:08:28 pm
Just wanting to bump this for any Revs students out there who might be wanting some help or advice :D

Hi there!

I was wondering if you'd know if there was anywhere I could get a practise essay I wrote checked over or read?

Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Dictionnaire de la Marche on March 16, 2018, 11:03:33 am
Hey fellow Revver's!!

Is anyone else out there doing the American Revolution??
Seems to be a lot on russia and france (which I don't do till later in the year), but nothing on America!
Our teacher is really good so she gives us tonnes of quotes, plus she has also set up a collaboration where the whole class can share anything they find with each other, however, my main problem is remembering them all!!
How did everyone go in their first SAC's??

Just wondering if you have any tips for answering sac/exam questions?
In terms of answering such questions, I have always found that the best way is to be both concise and analytical, and give detail on how events lead to certain reactions, and how that lead to an overall effect of whatever, rather than just giving a narrative of the original event. It is also hugely important to develop a clear contention from the very beginning and incorporate a range of historians views and primary evidence. Also, I think it was mentioned previously as well, but if you check out the examiners reports etc on the VCAA website, the average mark for 10 mark questions is only 4 out of 10! This means that if you nail the structure and can get even 6-7 out of 10, you already have a huge advantage over the rest of the state!

Good luck everyone in their historical pursuits!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 20, 2018, 12:17:04 am
Is anyone else out there doing the American Revolution??

Hi there! i'm actually doing American revo next semester. This sem i'm doing Russian. I didn't go too well on my first sac. it was a source analysis out of 20 marks and I got 75%, but my next sac is coming up and its an essay which I can hopefully do better in. Source analysis always stuffs me up.

I didn't know the average marks for a 10 mark question was 4. I got 8/10 on my last sac for the last source analysis question.

I'm trying not to do that thing where I stress over the study score and just focus on my marks but its haunting me haha. I really wanna do well in revs. I'm not even sure what grades I should be getting to get a high SS.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Dictionnaire de la Marche on March 20, 2018, 09:55:53 am
Hey Hala119,

I didn't go too well on my first sac. it was a source analysis out of 20 marks and I got 75%, but my next sac is coming up and its an essay which I can hopefully do better in. Source analysis always stuffs me up.

With a mark like 75%, I don't think you did bad at all for your first SAC!! We have already done two SAC's, one a extendented answer and the other an essay. I did some last minute cramming (I am such a bad procrastinator!!)  and think I did alright, but we haven't got our marks back yet.

I didn't know the average marks for a 10 mark question was 4. I got 8/10 on my last sac for the last source analysis question.

I'm trying not to do that thing where I stress over the study score and just focus on my marks but its haunting me haha. I really wanna do well in revs. I'm not even sure what grades I should be getting to get a high SS.

I didn't know that the average marks were that low either, until my teacher showed us on the website! I was pretty shocked because my lowest mark ever for a 10 mark question was 6 out of 10, so it was quite reassuring! Like you, I'm also trying not to stress over study scores !! I want to do really well too, but I have found from past experience, that the less I stress and try to overthink things, the better I tend to do!

Glad to find someone else who will be doing the American Revolution! Did you get to choose what revolutions you wanted to do or did the school choose for you?
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 20, 2018, 04:28:08 pm
With a mark like 75%, I don't think you did bad at all for your first SAC!! We have already done two SAC's, one a extendented answer and the other an essay. I did some last minute cramming (I am such a bad procrastinator!!)  and think I did alright, but we haven't got our marks back yet.

For me, I did worse than I hoped i'd go. What's reassuring me is that the class average was a 55% and the highest mark was 80%, as well as the fact that I have other sacs in the future that I can make up for it, as well as the exam!! Good luck on your future sacs. I have my essay sac this monday. Honestly because i'm doing the 3/4 in year 11 my brain is just like 'discard all the other subjects and do history.' I still have so much to memorise, but i'm spreading it out over the course of the remaining time I have (and making myself have one day of revison as well as to write one more practise). Procrastination is the worst but I still manage to do it haha.

Glad to find someone else who will be doing the American Revolution! Did you get to choose what revolutions you wanted to do or did the school choose for you?

The school actually chose for me. They decided on Russia and America because theres less units to study and its more straight forward, i'm pretty sure.

Hows revs going for you? It was a pretty big jump from year 11 to 12. Theres so much content to know, and the fact that extra reading is essential is a new thing for me, but I'm easing into it, I think. I think I finally got down how best I study.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Dictionnaire de la Marche on March 20, 2018, 08:48:52 pm
Honestly because i'm doing the 3/4 in year 11 my brain is just like 'discard all the other subjects and do history.'

Wow! Instant respect for doing a subject as hard as history revs in year 11! I am finding it tough enough doing it in year 12!  I also did a units 3/4 subject in year 11, and found that it was quite rewarding. I managed to get over 40, and now it kinda motivates me through my current studies because it reminds me what I'm capable of.

The school actually chose for me. They decided on Russia and America because theres less units to study and its more straight forward, i'm pretty sure.

Hows revs going for you? It was a pretty big jump from year 11 to 12. There's so much content to know, and the fact that extra reading is essential is a new thing for me, but I'm easing into it, I think. I think I finally got down how best I study.

The school chose for me too, and my teacher says that they chose American and French because the one of the causes of the French rev is actually the American Rev, so there is a bit of an overlap which makes it easier!
I also found it a bit of a jump, but have settled into the routine and am feeling more confident. I too have realized that I actually have to read my textbook, and have worked out what works best for me in the way of studying (right now my bedroom walls are covered with historians quotes and massive timelines!!).
All the best in your studies, and another congrats for doing 3/4 in year 11!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 20, 2018, 10:10:19 pm
Wow! Instant respect for doing a subject as hard as history revs in year 11! I am finding it tough enough doing it in year 12! 

I'm honestly questioning my decision today, but I've always enjoyed history, so I don't regret it. It'll be worthwhile and I feel like doing it in year 11 will be better because I have more time to focus on it. Being the only year 11 in my class (a couple of people have questioned my decision too lmaoo), it's kinda confronting, but I know a couple of the kids from last years class. I'm honestly still not really sure of how much doing a 6th subject contributed towards my atar but I know that its beneficial. I feel like my teacher from last year believes I can do well and I hope so too. I don't want to disappoint both the teachers and myself lol.


I also did a units 3/4 subject in year 11, and found that it was quite rewarding. I managed to get over 40, and now it kinda motivates me through my current studies because it reminds me what I'm capable of.

Oh, what did you do? Congrats for getting over 40! That's a really admirable achievement. I really want to aim for that in history but am not really confident I can get it, but i'm doing my best, so thats that. Thats great that it motivates you.

All the best in your studies, and another congrats for doing 3/4 in year 11!

Thanks! Good luck to you, too. What subjects are you taking this year? Kinda curious if history students take similar subjects. Another question, what kind of resources is your teacher giving you? My teacher is always like 'you guys are kind of at a disadvantage because you're competing against a lot of the private schools and they may have things you don't like tutors (because I got to a public)' lIke, thanks sir, great way to motivate. Kinda pushes me to work harder, though. 
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on March 20, 2018, 10:28:45 pm
Hey guys, hate to be a buzzkill but it'd be great if you could keep discussion on topic as this is a question thread :) Feel free to continue chatting away over PM or in a more general thread such as the Class of 2018 discussion thread.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 20, 2018, 10:54:50 pm
Hey guys, hate to be a buzzkill but it'd be great if you could keep discussion on topic as this is a question thread :) Feel free to continue chatting away over PM or in a more general thread such as the Class of 2018 discussion thread.

No problem!
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on March 22, 2018, 08:52:26 pm
There you go, this is now the revs question thread :)

Hi there.

I'd just like to ask if anyone has any tips on essay writing.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: MathsQuestIsBad on March 28, 2018, 10:06:15 pm
Hey guys, hate to be a buzzkill but it'd be great if you could keep discussion on topic as this is a question thread :) Feel free to continue chatting away over PM or in a more general thread such as the Class of 2018 discussion thread.

Hey,

So I got my SA back today and I got a 9/10 for QC but I really struggled with QA in trying to extrapolate from a source. I just didn't know how far we were supposed to go in using prior knowledge because I was told to infer, but I accept full responsibility haha (2/5). Anyway, yeah I just wanted to know how you answered QAs in trying to infer from a source, I for some reason struggled to do that in the SAC.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: natothegreat on April 23, 2018, 08:24:04 pm
Hi there.

I'd just like to ask if anyone has any tips on essay writing.
Use lot's of Historian quotes and make sure they link in well with your assertions. Also use as much knowledge such as dates, people and places in your paragraphs. Not only will it increase your word count but it will get you lot's of marks. In my first SAC I got 41/50 and my quotes were pretty meh but I used a ton of knowledge in mine.

Good luck.
Title: Re: History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on May 11, 2018, 08:53:36 pm
Use lot's of Historian quotes and make sure they link in well with your assertions. Also use as much knowledge such as dates, people and places in your paragraphs. Not only will it increase your word count but it will get you lot's of marks. In my first SAC I got 41/50 and my quotes were pretty meh but I used a ton of knowledge in mine.

Good luck.

Hey, thanks for this. I read it too late, oops, but I managed to get a 17/20 on the essay. It wasn't extremely impressive but I understand where I went a bit wrong and hopefully will improve by the exam. My next upcoming sac (extended responses) is on monday and hopefully I wont botch it.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Elsa//768 on August 10, 2018, 09:20:12 pm
Hey guys,
I'm a yr11 student doing revolutions this year. I scored 100% for both of my Unit 3 Outcomes (my class average is around 80%), HOWEVER, I stuffed up my first unit 4 Outcome...
So I'm just wondering, is it still possible for me to get a study score of 40?
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on August 12, 2018, 10:41:11 pm
Hey guys,
I'm a yr11 student doing revolutions this year. I scored 100% for both of my Unit 3 Outcomes (my class average is around 80%), HOWEVER, I stuffed up my first unit 4 Outcome...
So I'm just wondering, is it still possible for me to get a study score of 40?
Thanks!
Absolutely! :)

Been a few years since I did revs but I was in a very similar (almost identical) situation to you after my first unit 4 SAC and I got a study score of 45. If you're highly ranked in the class by the end of the year, and do well in your exam, you're all set! Don't worry too much about this SAC, just use it as a learning experience and motivating factor to drive you through the remainder of the year.

All the best!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Elsa//768 on August 13, 2018, 06:32:52 pm
Absolutely! :)

Been a few years since I did revs but I was in a very similar (almost identical) situation to you after my first unit 4 SAC and I got a study score of 45. If you're highly ranked in the class by the end of the year, and do well in your exam, you're all set! Don't worry too much about this SAC, just use it as a learning experience and motivating factor to drive you through the remainder of the year.

All the best!

I see... Thank you!! I feel so much better now ;D
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: IlyaGlinin on August 13, 2018, 07:09:58 pm
Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone has any resources or access to practise exams for Revs (speficically China and Russia) since the new study design has only been out for 2 years- and other than the 2016, 2017 exam and the 2018 trial exam on the VCE Revs site, there are no other practise exams which you can do! (Also checked online but only ones I found are regarding the old study design.)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on August 14, 2018, 05:45:15 pm
Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone has any resources or access to practise exams for Revs (speficically China and Russia) since the new study design has only been out for 2 years- and other than the 2016, 2017 exam and the 2018 trial exam on the VCE Revs site, there are no other practise exams which you can do! (Also checked online but only ones I found are regarding the old study design.)
Hey there. I think the best person to ask is your teacher! They'll probably have a stack of practice questions they've written hidden away somewhere and they also probably have access to a fair amount of resources. People are limited with what they can supply on ATAR Notes - company practice exams can't be distributed as it breaches their copyright. Might be worth having a gander at the Notes section of AN (you'll find this up the top of the page!) to see if someone has uploaded self-made questions/resources :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on September 20, 2018, 07:20:24 pm
Hey there!
Exam is coming up so I was wondering if there were any tips on studying for it. How in depth should you know about the content?

Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: alrightally on September 23, 2018, 06:31:01 pm
Hi,

There are so many sub points for each AOS that even if I get a quote for each that's like 100 quotes to memorise. I'm willing to do this to cover all grounds, but of course whatever topic the exam selects for a question you may need more than 1 quote to support. I don't know how to approach it so that I have enough quotes for the likely topics and not waste my time with other topics. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but can someone offer advice on how I should select what quotes to memorise (+amount)?

Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 24, 2018, 02:21:30 pm
Hi,

There are so many sub points for each AOS that even if I get a quote for each that's like 100 quotes to memorise. I'm willing to do this to cover all grounds, but of course whatever topic the exam selects for a question you may need more than 1 quote to support. I don't know how to approach it so that I have enough quotes for the likely topics and not waste my time with other topics. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but can someone offer advice on how I should select what quotes to memorise (+amount)?

Thanks!
Hey there - I did revs a few years back now but the way my teacher approached it with us was to have a number of quotes that could be applied broadly to a timeframe, rather than a quote applied to each event. Rather than focusing on a historian's specific viewpoint on a particular event, see if you have quotes that are a bit more broad and comment on the overall state of things, because then you can elaborate on that as you're writing. Saves yourself a lot of memorising :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: charlotte1120 on September 24, 2018, 03:57:38 pm
How do you actually answer the History exam... In Section A you chose 1 revolution, and you answer every question on it? And for B you chose another and do the same?
I know this is a stupid question, but our teacher never explained how to answer and doesn't reply to emails. The exam looks so terrifying...
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 24, 2018, 05:21:02 pm
How do you actually answer the History exam... In Section A you chose 1 revolution, and you answer every question on it? And for B you chose another and do the same?
I know this is a stupid question, but our teacher never explained how to answer and doesn't reply to emails. The exam looks so terrifying...
Hey! So you've got the nuts and bolts of it. Did you discuss in class which revolution you'd do for which part?
For example, when I did revs my teacher taught us so that we'd do the Chinese revolution for Section A and the Russian revolution for Section B. The exam looks daunting at first, but just ignore the revolutions you haven't studied and take some time to familiarise yourself with the exam structure before the actual exam :)

Here's the link to the sample exam: https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/history/hist-rev-samp-w.pdf and I'd really recommend just taking the time to break it down and work through it slowly.



Hey there!
Exam is coming up so I was wondering if there were any tips on studying for it. How in depth should you know about the content?

Thanks!
Hi :) Honestly my biggest tip is practicing answering exam questions. Use past VCAA exams and ask your teacher if they have any questions that they've created or have access to. Make sure you're good with the timing of the exam, so start off answering the questions without time pressure, then add in the time limit.
You need to know the content, but it doesn't have to be *super* in depth. Like, enough that you know the consequences of events and that you can provide a bit of detail, but you don't have to be able to write an essay about every single event.

Hope this helps a bit!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on September 25, 2018, 11:50:33 am
Hey!

Thanks for the tips!

In reference to practise exams, I was wondering something. The exams have a copyright restriction, so I am unsure of how to go about handling, for example, this:

(added as attachment)


Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on September 25, 2018, 12:10:29 pm
Hey!

Thanks for the tips!

In reference to practise exams, I was wondering something. The exams have a copyright restriction, so I am unsure of how to go about handling, for example, this:

(added as attachment)
I'd have a chat to your teacher. They should have access (or be able to get it) to the non-restricted versions of the exams :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on October 01, 2018, 03:28:01 pm
Hello again. xD.

I was worried about the timing of the exam. Because theres limited amount of time to write each piece, I was wondering how to fit the amount of information I need to get across my points to get a high mark without being able to write a lot and not leaving out detail. Im worried I wont be able to finish in time or to a satisfactory level to do well/get a high mark.

Does anyone have any tips on how to handle this?
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on October 01, 2018, 05:40:29 pm
Hello again. xD.

I was worried about the timing of the exam. Because theres limited amount of time to write each piece, I was wondering how to fit the amount of information I need to get across my points to get a high mark without being able to write a lot and not leaving out detail. Im worried I wont be able to finish in time or to a satisfactory level to do well/get a high mark.

Does anyone have any tips on how to handle this?
My biggest tip is just to practice, practice and do more practice! Also try cutting down your words - I found early in Revs that I took a bit of time to get to the point. It requires a bit of a different writing style to English. The examiners are going to reward you for the points you get across, not the flowery nature of your language. If you've used a whole sentence to say something (or sometimes as I found, not much!), maybe see if you can cut down some of it and even see if you can get more functional words in there (i.e. words that provide a point/info).

When I did Revs, I also set out a specific amount of time to do each question. That way I made sure I answered everything, and didn't devote an unfair amount of time to one aspect of the exam at the expense of other sections. Have a chat to your teacher and see if they have any ideas for a time break down!

I did Revs with the old study design (I think the only different term is 3 or 4 pointers, and maybe the structure of questions has changed?), and my structure looked something like this:
Section A:
- 3 or 4 pointer (x2) - 15 mins each
- Doc study - 30 mins (split up into separate time allowances for each aspect)

Section B:
- Doc study - 30 mins (as above)
- Essay - 20-25 mins

Gave me time for proof-reading at the end, and also gave me a few minutes leeway in case I got writers block.

That being said, having a specific structure might stress some people out, so it really depends what works for you. I worked best when I had a strict schedule to stick to and found it kept me on task, but you might have a different way of doing exams :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Elccco on October 23, 2018, 08:18:06 am
Hi all,

I know we are nearing the end game with only 15 days until the Revs exam, but I was wondering if anyone has any specifics on Felix Dzerzhinsky in regards to the Russian revolution outside of his involvement in the CHEKA and Red Terror.

Thanks heaps
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Elsa//768 on October 23, 2018, 03:14:19 pm
Hey Hey,
I have a weird question here. Is it possible to ask for an additional answer booklet during reading time? Also, if I do use an additional booklet, do I write my answers in the 'extra space' section or do I write them in the original section?
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: sammmarc on October 29, 2018, 07:16:49 pm
Hello, with reference to the time constraints of the exam, just wondering if their is anyone who suffers the same "problem" of messy handwriting when writing pieces in the time limit?
My teacher has said examiners aren't a fans of quick, messy handwriting which can distract them from the quality of your ideas, but part of me fails to see how people can write with immaculate handwriting under such time constraints.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on October 30, 2018, 03:35:22 pm
Hello, with reference to the time constraints of the exam, just wondering if their is anyone who suffers the same "problem" of messy handwriting when writing pieces in the time limit?
My teacher has said examiners aren't a fans of quick, messy handwriting which can distract them from the quality of your ideas, but part of me fails to see how people can write with immaculate handwriting under such time constraints.
My writing was super messy because of how fast I wrote and I remember talking to my teacher about it because I was so worried - you won't get marked down for it. If the examiner can't read your writing, the exam just gets passed to another person who can read it.

Don't worry too much - exam markers have a lot of experience and are probably masters at reading handwriting.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on October 30, 2018, 06:22:42 pm
Hello!

I've done a lot of practise exam questions and timed myself under conditions and such, but i'm unsure how to continue studying and revise for the exam. I don't want to overstudy so not to burn myself out but i'm not sure what to do now.

Does anyone have any tips?
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Elsa//768 on November 05, 2018, 03:18:22 pm
Hey Hey :)
Quick question, when talking about the role of nationalism during the Russian Revolution, should we talk about it in the same way as patriotism, or should we discuss the role of national minorities?
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: TheIllusion on February 23, 2019, 12:13:18 am
Hello AN,
I just encounted some trouble understanding the "Memoir of the Princes of the Blood".
I had trouble understanding this exerprt;

Such is the unhappy progress of this agitation that opinions which a short time ago might have seemed reprehensible, today appear to be reasonable and fair; and that which good people are indignant about today will in a short time perhaps pass as regular and legitimate. Who can say where the recklessness of opinions will stop? The rights of the throne have been called into question; the rights of the two orders of the State divide opinions; soon property rights will be attacked; the inequality of fortunes will be presented as an object for reform; the suppression of feudal rights has already been proposed, as the abolition of a system of oppression, the remains of barbarism . . . .

May the Third Estate therefore cease to attack the rights of the first two orders; rights which, no less ancient than the monarchy, must be as unchanging as its constitution; that it limit itself to seeking the reduction in taxes with which it might be burdened; the first two orders, recognising in the third citizens who are dear to them, will, by the generosity of their sentiments, be able to renounce those prerogatives which have a financial dimension, and consent to bear public charges in the most perfect equality.


From what I can infer from the source, the memoir reflected the rightist attitude of the aristocracy, defending the priveliges of the cleric and nobility, additionally enticing the Third Estate to supress their critisizm on the first two estates for the renounciation of priveliges recieved by the nobility for more "perfect equality".
Is my inference correct?
Is there anytthing else I could comment on?
Thanks.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: blubber on September 14, 2019, 07:42:38 pm
Hey fellow historians,
Does anyone know if we need to know Stalin's 'First Five Year Plan' for Russian Revolution AOS2???
Thanks in advance :P
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Hala119 on September 14, 2019, 08:48:09 pm

Hey fellow historians,
Does anyone know if we need to know Stalin's 'First Five Year Plan' for Russian Revolution AOS2???
Thanks in advance :P

Hi,

I highly doubt you need to know anything after Lenin died (1924), and even that isn't specifically important.  Stalin's five year plan was 1928.

If you look at the study design, you can see the points of discussion that you should base your exam revision around.

This is for the CONSEQUENCES of the revolution.
New Regime Challenges (in consolidating power)
•   The dissolution of the Constituent Assembly
•   Political opposition
•   The creation of the Sovnarkom
•   Land redistribution
•   The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
•   State Capitalism
•   The Civil War
•   War Communism
•   The Red Terror
•   The Polish Soviet War
•   The 1921 Famine
•   The Kronstadt Revolt
•   New Economic Policy

As you can see the last dot point is the New Economic Policy (1921), so anything after that is just additional knowledge. I did the exam last year and I didn't study anything after this policy for the consequences of the revolution, as I found, by doing a lot of practise exams, that it wasn't necessarily required.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Ninjamagics on October 07, 2019, 10:49:57 pm
So I've heard that they wont ask us about anything that has already been covered in the exam in the current study design, is this true and does it include the NHS exam aswell 
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: hawkrook on October 07, 2019, 10:52:43 pm
So I've heard that they wont ask us about anything that has already been covered in the exam in the current study design, is this true and does it include the NHS exam aswell 

I have not heard this. I doubt its true. While it is likely they will examine something that they have not yet done, it is not guaranteed
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on February 13, 2020, 08:26:31 pm
Is there anywhere a bank of good quotes on AN? Specifically for France and Russia.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on February 13, 2020, 08:44:49 pm
For France, I've heard different things about the meaning and definition of the don gratuit. What is it? My teacher and Edrolo contradicted themselves.
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on April 08, 2020, 12:00:46 pm
Please, someone, answer my questions?
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: greyhistorypodcasts on April 18, 2020, 09:32:35 pm
For France, I've heard different things about the meaning and definition of the don gratuit. What is it? My teacher and Edrolo contradicted themselves.
Thanks!

The Catholic Church was exempt from taxation. During times of financial stress, this taxation caused tension between the church and the french government. As a result, the church paid the “don gratuit” every five years. The don gratuit  (which translates to “voluntary gift”) was a gift contributed to the french treasury by the Catholic Church (essentially in return for its taxation exemption, as this gift was a fraction of the taxation the Church would have had to pay if its lands were taxed with a property tax).  In June 1788, the Assembly of the Clergy voted to give the government only 1,800,000 livres instead of the 8,000,000 the government had requested. The reduced don gratuit of 1788 indicates the widespread opposition which existed towards Brienne’s ministry at the height of the French government’s financial crisis.

If you're looking for a French Revolution podcast that is written by a former revs student and full of historiography, check out "Grey History: The French Revolution".
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on June 18, 2020, 09:57:34 am
What is/are zemstvas (Russia)? It/they appeared in the teacher's information and I don't have the teacher on hand to ask.
Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on June 18, 2020, 11:12:36 am
What is/are zemstvas (Russia)? It/they appeared in the teacher's information and I don't have the teacher on hand to ask.
Thanks!
My understanding is that zemstvos were an institution of local government set up after emancipation in 1861. Probably the equivalent of your local council or something.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on June 18, 2020, 11:19:34 am
My understanding is that zemstvos were an institution of local government set up after emancipation in 1861. Probably the equivalent of your local council or something.
Thank you! Will add to my notes.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on June 18, 2020, 12:03:52 pm
Thank you! Will add to my notes.
Unsure of their significance within the Revs study design as it's changed since I did Revs and the Russian area of study is longer now. But I imagine they would have been dissolved by the Bolsheviks as the zemstvos would have mostly consisted of the nobles/bourgeoisie. Best to ask your teacher whether they're a key thing to know or not. :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on June 21, 2020, 08:28:42 pm
Unsure of their significance within the Revs study design as it's changed since I did Revs and the Russian area of study is longer now. But I imagine they would have been dissolved by the Bolsheviks as the zemstvos would have mostly consisted of the nobles/bourgeoisie. Best to ask your teacher whether they're a key thing to know or not. :)
Seems they come up a bit, so I dunno. Just wanted to know, figured the actual Russian words would be better than 'council' or something.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: danielapapaa on July 14, 2020, 05:03:13 pm
Hi! This might be a silly question but is there any way to access the sources on the vcaa exams that are not supplied because of copyright? Thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Justin_L on July 14, 2020, 05:54:21 pm
Hi! This might be a silly question but is there any way to access the sources on the vcaa exams that are not supplied because of copyright? Thanks!

Your best bet would probably be to ask your school, your teacher likely has past exams on file and might be able to give you a photocopy
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on July 16, 2020, 06:48:17 pm
I don't know if this is the right place to ask but - I have this question and I don't know how to go about it, could someone please suggest to me what arguments I could frame?
To what extent did the Bloody Sunday massacre contributed to the Tsar’s decision to issue the October Manifesto in October 1905.
Thank you! (Also, sooner rather than later would be preferable because it's due soon)
:)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Genshai on July 17, 2020, 06:10:45 pm

To what extent did the Bloody Sunday massacre contributed to the Tsar’s decision to issue the October Manifesto in October 1905.


You could mention the people's loss of faith in their leader (hence the name 'Bloody Nicholas') or the subsequent rise of revolutionary sentiment (as it was the largest strike and resulted in strikes in solidarity). On the flip side, you could mention the Russo-Japanese War as another event that influenced the creation of the Manifesto.

Sorry, that was pretty basic, but I hoped it helped. Good luck :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on July 17, 2020, 09:08:58 pm
You could mention the people's loss of faith in their leader (hence the name 'Bloody Nicholas') or the subsequent rise of revolutionary sentiment (as it was the largest strike and resulted in strikes in solidarity). On the flip side, you could mention the Russo-Japanese War as another event that influenced the creation of the Manifesto.

Sorry, that was pretty basic, but I hoped it helped. Good luck :)
It did! Thank you!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: ms.mitchell on July 25, 2020, 05:08:07 pm
Hi folks

Not sure how this forum works, but I'm looking for advice for writing an extended response for China AOS1.

Our teacher has signalled that the timeframe of our SAC will be between 1912-1934. The teacher also alluded to the idea that the extended response will generally be surrounding Sun Yixian's three principles and their survival (or not) with regards to the Early Republic Era and the Nationalist Decade. Here's an example of the kind of question we may be asked.

'Despite the failures of leadership in the Early Republic, not all of Sun Yixian's ideals were lost.' Discuss (20 marks)

I have a plan but would appreciate any advice! Cheers.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Gabriel George on July 27, 2020, 07:38:57 pm
CHINESE REVS AOS1

Hey guys, looking for help on these two questions:

1. Analyse the role of Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai-Shek) in the defeat of the Nationalist Cause (10 marks)
2. ‘The Nationalist Decade (1927-1937) can be seen as a golden phase for China.’ To what extent do you agree with this view? (20 marks)

Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on July 27, 2020, 08:14:16 pm
Sorry, I don't do China; I can help with France or Russia (though that's obviously not what you're looking for) but at least you're not alone on the forum.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on July 27, 2020, 09:59:54 pm
Please take my advice with a grain of salt because I did Revs a few years back now lol

Hi folks

Not sure how this forum works, but I'm looking for advice for writing an extended response for China AOS1.

Our teacher has signalled that the timeframe of our SAC will be between 1912-1934. The teacher also alluded to the idea that the extended response will generally be surrounding Sun Yixian's three principles and their survival (or not) with regards to the Early Republic Era and the Nationalist Decade. Here's an example of the kind of question we may be asked.

'Despite the failures of leadership in the Early Republic, not all of Sun Yixian's ideals were lost.' Discuss (20 marks)

I have a plan but would appreciate any advice! Cheers.
I think best thing is to see what your general plan would be and we can see if we can add to it! What are your thoughts on how you'd address this?
Just to be clear, I assume you're talking about Sun Yat-sen's Three Principles of the People (sanminzhuyi) - nationalism, democracy and people's livelihood?


CHINESE REVS AOS1

Hey guys, looking for help on these two questions:

1. Analyse the role of Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai-Shek) in the defeat of the Nationalist Cause (10 marks)
2. ‘The Nationalist Decade (1927-1937) can be seen as a golden phase for China.’ To what extent do you agree with this view? (20 marks)

Any help is appreciated, thanks!
1. Not really sure of your timeframe here - are you talking about how the nationalists were defeated in the civil war, leading to CCP control?

2.
For:
- Modernised finance, industry, communications, transport, sovereignty etc (basically modernised the cities) which was a pretty big thing
- New Life Movement

Against:
- Communist uprisings - let Mao really develop his ideology (particularly military and social reforms), increase his supporter base - this was when he really moved to focusing on peasants, then there was the Long March and all that
- Japanese invasion and the mess that followed

Honestly for 2. I'd argue it wasn't really a golden phase because although it did allow China to undergo a lot of economic development, the nationalist attacks on the communists really galvanised the communists into building their forces and developing their ideology so they were a lot more organised.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on July 29, 2020, 06:11:23 pm
Who were the Cossacks? (Russia)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: miaindigo on August 27, 2020, 04:46:51 pm
Wondering if anyone has used the HTAV Study and Exam Guides, and if so would you deem them to be worth the $27? If not does anyone have other resource recommendations? I'm doing France and Russia but happy to hear feedback in general. I'd planned using the State Library for exam resources but that's obviously off the cards for this year....
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on August 27, 2020, 04:59:56 pm
Why is it called the February Revolution when the Tsar abdicated March 1? (Russia)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on August 27, 2020, 05:00:56 pm
Wondering if anyone has used the HTAV Study and Exam Guides, and if so would you deem them to be worth the $27? If not does anyone have other resource recommendations? I'm doing France and Russia but happy to hear feedback in general. I'd planned using the State Library for exam resources but that's obviously off the cards for this year....
I've not, but there's some pretty decent free notes out there (on AN) for both France and Russia. Other than that, dunno about any other resources.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: miaindigo on August 27, 2020, 05:10:03 pm
Who were the Cossacks? (Russia)

I'm slightly(very) late to this, however, the Cossacks were an eastern slavic militia of semi-independent warriors renowned for their loyalty to the tsar. They were used across the turn of the century to subdue significant unrest and enforce Russification, numbering over 300 000 upon the outbreak of WWI. Some would participate in the October Revolution and conflict subsequently broke out between the Bolsheviks and the Cossacks. During the Civil War most fought for the White Army, however, the Red Cossacks also existed as an expansion of a breakaway group. The Bolsheviks conducted a policy of Decossackisation 1917-33 viewing the Cossacks as a potential threat to the regime.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: miaindigo on August 27, 2020, 05:27:31 pm
Why is it called the February Revolution when the Tsar abdicated March 1? (Russia)

It's seen as having started 23 February when the striking Putilov steel workers were joined by those protesting food rationing. Yes Nicholas didn't abdicate until March(for both calendars), however, most of the action had by that point already taken place with Nicholas only abdicating after his train was stopped by revolutionaries while returning to Petrograd. It would be fair to say good old Nicky wasn't exactly known for being easily persuaded, Rodzianko, the Chairman of the Duma, had sent him a telegram on the 26th telling him 'the capital is in a state of anarchy' and he had wrote to Alexandra saying 'this fat Rodzianko has written me lots of nonsense.' Keep in mind even if the March Revolution seems more logical to you from the perspective of when the key moment took place very few non-Soviets accounts of events were initially published and Soviet historians will always date events off of when the worker uprisings took place.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: chr0009 on September 06, 2020, 05:27:32 pm
Hey I hope this thread is still active. Just have some quick questions regarding the study design for France, I'm kinda confused over exactly what they mean for some points of the study design.
 Eg, One point of the study design is 'the abolition of absolute monarchy and privileged corporations' what does this mean? Would this be the execution of Louis or the formation of the National Convention?
Same for:
- 'the scale of reforms envisaged by the revolution' (what is this? would it be the church reformation, and all the economic/ political reformation undertaken by the Constituent Assembly?)
-  'the introduction of popular sovereignty and representative government' what do they mean?
- ' Internal divisions over the aims of the revolution' (would this be the different political clubs and the mountain vs Girondin split?)
- 'the abolition of feudalism'

I hope that made sense, normally i base my notes around the dot points of the study design so it's kind of difficult when I dont know what exactly they are talking about. Thanks!!! :) 
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on September 06, 2020, 07:33:31 pm
Hey I hope this thread is still active. Just have some quick questions regarding the study design for France, I'm kinda confused over exactly what they mean for some points of the study design.
 Eg, One point of the study design is 'the abolition of absolute monarchy and privileged corporations' what does this mean? Would this be the execution of Louis or the formation of the National Convention?
Same for:
- 'the scale of reforms envisaged by the revolution' (what is this? would it be the church reformation, and all the economic/ political reformation undertaken by the Constituent Assembly?)
-  'the introduction of popular sovereignty and representative government' what do they mean?
- ' Internal divisions over the aims of the revolution' (would this be the different political clubs and the mountain vs Girondin split?)
- 'the abolition of feudalism'

I hope that made sense, normally i base my notes around the dot points of the study design so it's kind of difficult when I dont know what exactly they are talking about. Thanks!!! :)
Hey-
I'll answer tomorrow when I'm free to do so. Just saying, this is still active. (and I do my notes by the SD too, so I've figured it out kinda)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: ye94747 on October 16, 2020, 01:59:38 am
many of these threads seem to be filled with french + china... does anyone have resources (specifically quotes / stats) for america???  :-\
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: sazabo_c on October 25, 2020, 04:09:03 pm
Hi! I've never asked a question here before but I am wholly confused about certain dot point on the French Rev study design.

FR - Consequences
1. abolition of absolute monarchy and privileged corporations
- wasn't it changed in AOS 1 with the fundamental principles (1789) of government or is this referring to the formal 1791 constitution which revised the role of the monarch? Also privileged corporations - what are these, the Church?

2. abolition of feudalism
I really have no idea with this one as I thought this was outworked through AOS 1 August decrees (1789) - is this the 1793 constitution? They got rid of feudal dues without compensation?

Thanks a million to whoever replies :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on October 25, 2020, 09:53:07 pm
Hi! I've never asked a question here before but I am wholly confused about certain dot point on the French Rev study design.

FR - Consequences
1. abolition of absolute monarchy and privileged corporations
- wasn't it changed in AOS 1 with the fundamental principles (1789) of government or is this referring to the formal 1791 constitution which revised the role of the monarch? Also privileged corporations - what are these, the Church?

2. abolition of feudalism
I really have no idea with this one as I thought this was outworked through AOS 1 August decrees (1789) - is this the 1793 constitution? They got rid of feudal dues without compensation?

Thanks a million to whoever replies :)
1. Privileged corporations - yes, the church, the feudal system, etc. And I think you're right about the 1791 constitution, not sure though.
2. The Night of Patriotic Delirium (August 4) did it but got kinda revoked by the August Decrees. I don't think it's the 1793 constitution, but I can't recall at the moment what it is.
Sorry for my incompetency... I figure any sort of help might be better than none?
Note I'm also a year 12 student and not one too sure with this stuff!
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: jkfleur on December 08, 2020, 04:46:03 pm
random query, but is there a huge difference between the HTAV 'reinventing russia' textbook (the green one) and the second edition of the same book? I bought it second hand for next year, and didn't get the 2e edition, which is also indicated nowhere on the cover of the book but only on the spine :( hope someone can help!

Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on December 08, 2020, 10:51:14 pm
random query, but is there a huge difference between the HTAV 'reinventing russia' textbook (the green one) and the second edition of the same book? I bought it second hand for next year, and didn't get the 2e edition, which is also indicated nowhere on the cover of the book but only on the spine :( hope someone can help!


Can't tell you for sure but in my experience new editions (especially for hums subjects) are usually just fixing up past errors, maybe changing some formatting, and maybe adding in or taking away a few sections. Nothing dramatic. If your book is missing a section you can always photocopy it from one of your classmates books or something. I think you'll be fine :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: jkfleur on December 09, 2020, 08:02:25 am
Can't tell you for sure but in my experience new editions (especially for hums subjects) are usually just fixing up past errors, maybe changing some formatting, and maybe adding in or taking away a few sections. Nothing dramatic. If your book is missing a section you can always photocopy it from one of your classmates books or something. I think you'll be fine :)

alright thanks! I was just worried when the France book (which is 2e) had a key individuals section and the Russia one didn’t
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on December 09, 2020, 09:16:06 am

alright thanks! I was just worried when the France book (which is 2e) had a key individuals section and the Russia one didn’t
Also note, the previous edition of the France book has a timeline which I found very useful - if someone else has it and you can maybe photocopy or something, I would recommend it (if it's legal, course).
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: RCircles on December 09, 2020, 03:33:19 pm
So I have got a big compilation of notes for Revs from past students (America), and I am having a hard time trying to digest a lot of content. Is there a way to retain this knowledge further (my teacher said that that writing would be a waste of time, as we have notes)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Justin_L on December 09, 2020, 05:43:17 pm
So I have got a big compilation of notes for Revs from past students (America), and I am having a hard time trying to digest a lot of content. Is there a way to retain this knowledge further (my teacher said that that writing would be a waste of time, as we have notes)

I would tend to disagree with your teacher, as I've found that writing notes builds muscle memory and helps me to remember content, although don't fall into the trap of rewriting textbooks/content word for word. Maybe consider turning what you're learning into practice questions and writing responses for those instead? That should help you build up your content knowledge and exam skills at the same time.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on December 09, 2020, 05:46:03 pm
So I have got a big compilation of notes for Revs from past students (America), and I am having a hard time trying to digest a lot of content. Is there a way to retain this knowledge further (my teacher said that that writing would be a waste of time, as we have notes)
I would say you should
a) reread reread reread reread reread again and again (don't underestimate it!)
b) synthesise your own notes out of it (which is what I did as well as rereading)
c) write responses and get your teacher to mark them, both open and closed book
d) do Kahoots on it (I'm being entirely serious here, for the record)
e) get classmates to test you and vice versa
f) put information up around your house to keep seeing it
and just expose yourself to the content as oft as possible.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: RCircles on February 04, 2021, 02:12:07 pm
What is the best way to right responses to SAC/Exam questions (for 5 marks)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: K888 on February 06, 2021, 06:39:03 pm
What is the best way to right responses to SAC/Exam questions (for 5 marks)
Revs has changed a bit since I did it, but I think the most important thing is to never get sucked into writing a narrative. Practice writing lots of responses so you get good at doing succinct and to the point responses that provide all the details necessary, but don't fall into the trap of just writing what happened - Revs is about understanding the significance of events and the consequences they had.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Lambe2022 on February 24, 2021, 10:56:35 pm
hello all,
just started History Revolutions unit 3&4 in year 11 and it is my only year 12 subject for year 11
i am just wondering for AOS1, are there any good notes or tips to find out how each revolutionary leader contruibuted to the American Revolution and Revolutionary War?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: heather727 on February 25, 2021, 05:44:10 pm
hello all,
just started History Revolutions unit 3&4 in year 11 and it is my only year 12 subject for year 11
i am just wondering for AOS1, are there any good notes or tips to find out how each revolutionary leader contruibuted to the American Revolution and Revolutionary War?

thanks in advance

Hi!
I did Revs early and I loved it, great to see other year 11s taking on the subject as well :).
Whilst I personally didn’t do the American Revolution, I would recommend you check out websites like Alpha History (this bit in particular: https://alphahistory.com/americanrevolution/american-revolution-whos-who/). It lists all the key individuals involved in the revolution (AOS 1 and 2), and provides a brief summary of their life and how they contributed to the revolution (for some individuals, you may need to draw your own conclusions). I found it really useful for the Russian and Chinese revolution.
In addition, your textbook will also likely have sections focused on individuals specifically, and if all else fails, ask your teacher!
Hope this helped :)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Lambe2022 on February 25, 2021, 05:52:33 pm
Hi!
I did Revs early and I loved it, great to see other year 11s taking on the subject as well :).
Whilst I personally didn’t do the American Revolution, I would recommend you check out websites like Alpha History (this bit in particular: https://alphahistory.com/americanrevolution/american-revolution-whos-who/). It lists all the key individuals involved in the revolution (AOS 1 and 2), and provides a brief summary of their life and how they contributed to the revolution (for some individuals, you may need to draw your own conclusions). I found it really useful for the Russian and Chinese revolution.
In addition, your textbook will also likely have sections focused on individuals specifically, and if all else fails, ask your teacher!
Hope this helped :)

thankyou so much!   ;D
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: RCircles on March 21, 2021, 09:13:13 pm
Is their a good method to write fluently and fast in Revs
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: agehaglow on March 21, 2021, 10:11:05 pm
With source analysises, how do you refer to a source more than once in a response? My teacher says i need to refer to the source multiple times throughout it, but i'm not quite sure how to do so.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: Justin_L on March 21, 2021, 11:28:06 pm
Is their a good method to write fluently and fast in Revs

Hey RCircles!

I don't have anything specific for revs but since this is a bit of a broad question, you might find this article on improving speed, neatness, and legibility as a good starting point.


With source analysises, how do you refer to a source more than once in a response? My teacher says i need to refer to the source multiple times throughout it, but i'm not quite sure how to do so.

Hey agehaglow!

Welcome to the forums! I don't know the specifics of VCE Revs, but referencing is usually course independent so I thought I'd chip in. If this is an exam style response, you can generally refer to sources simply as they are provided (eg. Source A, B, etc) but if this is a research task, you'll need to follow your school's referencing guide (eg. APA, Harvard, Oxford, etc).

Some keywords to lookout for are ibid, op cit, and et al, which are latin abbreviations used to reference "as above" but as always, make sure you check with your assigned referencing style to make sure you're using them correctly. For example, you may be expected to use in source citation or footnotes, which each have specific formatting rules.

Example footnotes with a source referenced multiple times
1. T, Cruz. 2017. Twitter. [Online]. Twitter. Available from: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/870651101137207298 Accessed on: 19 April 2020, n.p.
2. J, Fea. Unknown. Twitter and the Historical Profession. [Online]. The American Historian. Available from: https://tah.oah.org/content/twitter-and-the-historical-profession/ Accessed on: 19 April 2020, n.p.
3. Ibid.
4. Ibid.
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on March 22, 2021, 07:44:55 am
Is their a good method to write fluently and fast in Revs
Know your content inside out and have phrases you frequently use. It helped me, anyhow. (Still didn't do well, but that was more from an awful, awful exam than anything else.)
Title: Re: VCE History Revolutions Question Thread
Post by: FlaminGala on October 20, 2021, 07:17:39 pm
Hi there!

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me how to best structure a part c question for a source analysis? Thanks! :)