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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2007, 10:16:06 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2007, 01:02:32 am »
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Ouch, coblin. :(

I agree with you though! The VCE is a terrible system. I don't have a better idea, but I've been talking to many that do and I'm up for anything that takes place of the utter joke that is VCE and specifically, the ENTER.


Haha, that was sort not as angry as it might have looked. I expected a less painful reaction from you :) Glad you agree though, but I think you'll always want to tax, you evil Labor voter, hahaha.

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2007, 03:40:59 pm »
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enwiabe is an arrogant pretentious Labor voter. "hey guyzhs i think we shud tax everyone to fund all these massively good causes~!@~!"!!!"

You think you know what's best, what rank things go, but in reality it's up to the individual to place the rungs of the ladder on their own values chart, or difficulty chart :)

Even trying to compare maths subjects with arts subjects is pretentious by nature. It basically supports and upholds the system that is so poor and short-sighted: the VCE aggregate. How can we take subjects from all fields, standardise them into a score out of 50 (in some cases, upto 55) and then aggregate them into a one-dimensional score, which is supposed to reflect multidimensional skills.

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enwiabe.. arrogant?!?! i DONT THINK SO :wink:

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2007, 09:11:23 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2007, 11:30:01 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2007, 08:34:57 am »
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2007, 10:40:43 pm »
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enwiabe is an arrogant pretentious Labor voter. "hey guyzhs i think we shud tax everyone to fund all these massively good causes~!@~!"!!!"

You think you know what's best, what rank things go, but in reality it's up to the individual to place the rungs of the ladder on their own values chart, or difficulty chart :)

Even trying to compare maths subjects with arts subjects is pretentious by nature. It basically supports and upholds the system that is so poor and short-sighted: the VCE aggregate. How can we take subjects from all fields, standardise them into a score out of 50 (in some cases, upto 55) and then aggregate them into a one-dimensional score, which is supposed to reflect multidimensional skills.

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I agree.

Perfect example is a score in music solo performance verses maths verses say fashion.... how can they even be compared? Even with different INSTRUMENTS within music; how can you compare a violin performance with a guitar performance?

VCE is a pile of evil shit that doesn't really measure ability. I can guarantee you at least 95% of those who get 99+ are nothing more than performing monkeys, who have additionally been extremely privileged in their education.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2007, 12:37:06 am »
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I can guarantee you at least 95% of those who get 99+ are nothing more than performing monkeys, who have additionally been extremely privileged in their education.


I can guarantee you that 95% of statistics are made up on the spot to hide the fact that the claimant has made an outrageous claim without providing any substantive proof whatsoever.

I would have thought that before making a broad public allegation like that against high performing students there might be some objective and credible evidence.  Sadly however, instead of making a coherent, rational argument to make a point, you unleash a torrent of vitriol and sweeping generalisations about high performing students. You provide no objective, substantive or credible evidence to support your allegations that amount to nothing more than outrageous emotional rhetoric.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2007, 12:38:28 am »
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Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with high performing people getting high scores, I just think that the "national aggregate" is silly because it doesn't produce the most efficient match for universities since degrees vary in requirements and skills.

High performing "monkeys" should get the high scores. 95% of people getting ENTERs of 99+ actually indicates the system works. The only point that I see you're making is an emotional appeal against high performers who are as mindless as "monkeys" and you're arguing that high ENTERs should be given to people who aren't "monkeys."

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2007, 12:41:31 am »
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I agree that we've evolved from monkeys. /irrelevant

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2007, 10:47:50 am »
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Well, duh, hasn't anyone picked up on the fact that she's bitter that she won't be a "high-performing monkey"? Anyone at all? I mean, that's obviously where all this bitterness and hatred of us performing monkeys is coming from. :)

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2007, 11:04:04 am »
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Well, duh, hasn't anyone picked up on the fact that she's bitter that she won't be a "high-performing monkey"? Anyone at all? I mean, that's obviously where all this bitterness and hatred of us performing monkeys is coming from. :)


Yeah, but let's not read into it and convert it into an attack on the man, and instead look at the demerits of the argument: it's implying that "monkeys" shouldn't get high ENTERs. Perhaps the system should be modified so that people "with a life" will get high ENTER scores. Sounds good: maximum MySpace activity = high ENTER. I think we'll see universities going for people with low ENTERs, or totally abandoning the national system.

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 02:51:00 am »
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IT DEPENDS WHAT MATHS YOU DO!
For example, my maths is piss easy because it's based around stuff I need for MY course.
In first year, it's ONLY computer science subjects, hence I have maths directly related to Computer Science. It is piss easy.
However, this may differ with business degrees etc.
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 09:01:52 pm »
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IT DEPENDS WHAT MATHS YOU DO!
For example, my maths is piss easy because it's based around stuff I need for MY course.
In first year, it's ONLY computer science subjects, hence I have maths directly related to Computer Science. It is piss easy.
However, this may differ with business degrees etc.
this makes it the best necromancy so far experienced:

6 months, 4 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes, 56 seconds

congratulations.

what makes it better is, this is also the second necromancy committed in this thread

and what makes it even better is, this post is not even on topic! [the thing is about enhancement maths (or in other words, a first year mathematical science subject), not about math subjects at uni or math subjects in general, so lol]

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2008, 09:44:21 pm »
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 I'm glad of it, I got to see the mini-lulz from the previous few posts, which I'd been unaware of