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What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« on: July 09, 2015, 09:23:50 pm »
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Re: What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 09:32:53 pm »
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I didn't do music performance, but at 8th grade piano (practical) I was told it wasn't enough.  From memory, another guy round here had done his L.Mus in piano and only got a 42.  Competition is crazy.

Sure, it'd be a fun subject (would've loved it), but I also gather it takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time and effort - like 4 hrs practice a day.  5th grade probably wouldn't cut it.  Pick Further.
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Re: What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 09:38:18 pm »
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There's not really any correlation between VCE and AMEB - 5th grade practical means you should be able to play a bunch of the pieces, and 3rd grade theory should mean you'll be fine with most of the theory (don't remember what AMEB theory includes, but VCE performance theory is pretty not hard, so at the very least you'll pick it up reallll quick with that background.) VCE only requires one instrument - if you do group performance, you can choose to play multiple, though. Group also has a larger emphasis on performance as opposed to solo, wherein solo there is also technical considerations to your performing.

The real problem lies in that VCE assesses different things - in terms of your practical, AMEB is a lot more technical than VCE, whereas VCE places a lot more emphasis on performace and sounding good. (I know of singers who have gotten perfect marks in the performance exam without knowing what a scale is) Also, some of the theory in VCE is more about musicology than practical music theory - to memory, its about 1/3 aural work (identifying rhythms, melodies, scales, chords, progressions, etc.), 1/3 written (writing scales, chords, etc. in your chosen key signature) and 1/3 describing (in terms of things such as rhythm, texture, tone colour, etc.) Also, some instruments are a lot more competitive than others, as bangali has mentioned (piano and guitar being the two most competitive instruments)

I will ask, though - have you considered investigation? Investigation defs doesn't require having done VCE before, you get a much broader selection of songs you can perform, and IMHO is just a lot more fun.

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Re: What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2015, 05:25:36 am »
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Hi C.A.T., it's good to know that someone else on here is interested in taking VCE music performance (I'm currently taking Units 3&4).

To be fair, I don't really think AMEB grades are all that important. On my instrument (trombone), the VCE list of works for performance features a large variety of works to suit the technical capacities of a large variety of students; it includes a few very easy works (AMEB Grade 4-5) to some more difficult ones (AMEB LMus+).

Honestly, if you are willing to put the work into both the practical and the theory (yes, it's easy to neglect, but of you want the best shot at a good study score, you have to do a good job in all areas), you should find the course doable and satisfying.
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Re: What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 09:59:34 am »
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Hi C.A.T., it's good to know that someone else on here is interested in taking VCE music performance (I'm currently taking Units 3&4).

To be fair, I don't really think AMEB grades are all that important. On my instrument (trombone), the VCE list of works for performance features a large variety of works to suit the technical capacities of a large variety of students; it includes a few very easy works (AMEB Grade 4-5) to some more difficult ones (AMEB LMus+).

Honestly, if you are willing to put the work into both the practical and the theory (yes, it's easy to neglect, but of you want the best shot at a good study score, you have to do a good job in all areas), you should find the course doable and satisfying.

Speaking from a complete lack of experience, but wouldn't at the very least an AMus be required for a shot at 50?
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Re: What AMEB grade do you need to be?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 11:07:50 am »
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I was hoping to do 3&4 Music next year. I haven't done 1&2. I'll complete my 5th grade practical AMEB piano exam next year as well as my 3rd grade theory exam. Is this high enough? I'm tossing up between this and picking up further math (I'd probably be better at math, but this seems more interesting). I'm not worried about this affecting my ATAR - I'm in a specialist program so I've got enough other subjects - this is just for fun. Would it be too hard? And do you only have to only do one instrument because I also sing? (I don't have lessons in it though - tried it, and the teacher didn't work out for me)

It really depends on your aims. I think generally for piano it's expected that you'll be at least Grade 7 standard, and that's roughly the level of most repertoire on the syllabus. You should be able to make do with Grade 3 Theory - most of the theory is pretty simple, although melodic and rhythmic dictations may be slightly tricky. In Music Performance, you only really use one instrument in your exam - though I've heard of guitarists bringing in multiple guitars. But Music Performance is a fun subject! Depending on how your school structures it, you'll get time in class to basically have a jam!
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