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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2010, 08:49:57 pm »
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Ahh I agree!
Yeah it's pretty easy, but literally you could make up a composition and the examiners wouldn't have a clue (not that I'd be game enough to though lol). Yeah I did a religion 3/4 this year so I'm pretty top notch at bullshitting :P
Yeah that's a good idea, like an easy 1 or 2 just to get into the swing of it and then a tough one with 3 plays at the end.
It's really interpretive this subject, I was talking to another girl in my class about it today and it's just so hard to know where you stand with it?
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2010, 08:55:38 pm »
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yep. i'm ranked one for SACs (albeit out of a class of about 5) but i'm scared about this exam.. i have no idea how i'll go. somewhere between 20 and 40 would be my rough estimate for my SS! haha
it'll probably either be my 6th, or one of my best. which is so weird..
some past excerpts for section A are so strange, gawd =| i just want at least one really good jazz one and a very typical Classical one and i should be okay. the non-western ones - who knows..

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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2010, 09:01:15 pm »
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Yeah, my teacher's happy with my progress, like I've been doing really well on the sacs as well but I guess just getting into the exam. I remember doing the 06 exam and there was that really weird excerpt that was this woman making weird tounge sounds. If we get one like that I'm so screwed.
Hopefully we get a choir one - I've been in choirs since year 3 so that's pretty much my thang :P
I'm aiming for at least mid 30s for my ss but I guess it just rests on the excerpts...well, that and actually writing fast enough to finish!
I agree - non western and death will occur :P
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2010, 09:14:39 pm »
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Ahahaha! I absolutely loathe the tongue clucking and guttural vocal interpretations of vocalists. "How does the vocalist ensure interest in the song?" *shudder*
I remember an african woman in one was just doing vocal drum patterns o.O
And another consisted of a buddhist rock group that sung wailing as their lyrics.

If I don't sleep tonight, I won't have to wake up for tomorrow's exam.
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2010, 09:20:24 pm »
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Yeah, that was the one! :) The vocal drum patterns, and it was like 'Discuss rhythm and instrumentation'. Like, seriously.
Favourite though was the mongolian rock-folk group who used traditional instruments in conjunction with guitar and drum kit. Like, who thinks of that?!
I'd love to know how they pick these excerpts, like does the examiner have a kickass iTunes collection? :P

Yeah, I may just sleep early so I can wake up extra early and wait outside my teacher's office and bug him for a few hours. Just an option.
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2010, 09:35:30 pm »
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yes i've done that vocal one - so trippy. then read the examiners reports for high level responses and was like wtfff how do people hear that.. i missed heaps.

i struggled with that mongolian one! so different to anything i'd ever heard before

i emailed my teacher 3 hours ago with unheard practices and no reply so will probably have to hassle him tomorrow. god i hope i do okay..regroup here after the exam tomorrow to discuss it, after i go out celebrating the fact that i'll finally be finished woooo :D

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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2010, 09:40:12 pm »
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The mongolian one was so silly.. they just re-wrote the given information of instruments but said how they were used to score like 85% of the marks. Definitely reconvene here after the exam. How do you guys tackle Section C? I don't even fully understand what 'creative processes' means. Care to enlighten me? ::)
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2010, 09:43:15 pm »
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Hahaha. The day before the exam. You left it a little late ;)
In Chronological Order:
The Four Seasons - Antonio Vivaldi
Earth Cry - Peter Sculthorpe
So What - Miles Davis
In C - Terry Riley

Do I know anything about them? Not really.
Do I have heaps of information to regurgitate in the exam? You bet I do.

EDIT:
i'm doing mozart symphony no 40, earth cry - sculthorpe, erotomania - dream theatre & enta omri - oum kalthoum (a weird egyptian piece)
Woah, Woah, WOAH! You're doing Earth Cry too?
This is where we exchange notes. I'll start with contextual issues, you add anything that I don't  have, and hopefully I'm adding to yours. :D

1.Sculthorpe was commissioned by the ABC in 1985 to compose an Australian piece, yet the deadline was too soon for him to be able to compose a piece. This is shown by him reworking a previously unfinished piece named "Song of Talitnama", which was based off an aboriginal melody from an aboriginal poem.

2. He was fascinated by the Australian landscape, this is reflected by the doubling of instruments playing the melody to present broadness and structured the piece in ternary form to give the feeling of going in a circle. He believes that when you travel in Australia, where you end up looks similar to where you started and as such feels as though travelling in a circle. The tonal nature of the song is also due to his love of the Australian land. In an interview Sculthorpe stated "we need to listen to the cry of the earth, because if we don't, then death." His music mirrors this as it is based around the notes D, Db and A. Where D is "death", Db is the "Earth" and A is "Australia".

3. Due to interests in non-western music, Sculthorpe was heavily influenced by Balinese Gamelan and Japanese Koto music. The Balinese Gamelan is prevalent in his horn figurations, while the Japanese Koto music through the cellos imitating the horns.
Section A uses a Japanese Hirajoshi scale (apparently)
And the Balinese Gamelan influence is also seen in his use of polyrhythms in the winds at figure 4
A lot of this is due to his belief in the importance of a connection between Australia and the rest of the Pacific

The Aboriginal influence of the chants of the Arrernte people can be heard through the repetitive rhythms, extending phrases etc etc of section B

Your point 2 is really awesome, never heard most of that before! Wow :D

Ummm.... Sculthorpe believed in the importance of the "true breath of our culture" and believed we are lacking a "true national identity." Blah blah blah he was trying to counteract the stereotyped view of Australia such as that promoted by figures such as Paul Hogan (there's just a bit of a weird context one)


For creative processes, say (I think!) how it affected how you composed. Say if it was "how did the restrictions placed by your teacher affect your creative processes in terms of structure/melody" you could say something like "our teacher instructed us to write in a Classical style, so I decided to use Sonata form" etc etc

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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2010, 09:44:06 pm »
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I know, it's freakin weird. If we get one tomorrow I will honestly stab myself with a pen.
I quite liked the piece itself, just so hard to analyseeee.
My teacher does that :P I did like 3 exams worth of excerpt yesterday, saw him this morning and he didn't mark them, so I don't think I'll get them in time for the exam...
Sounds like a plan! Chilling with class, then going for icecream, come back and chill before hitting the club to analyse some club music (of course lol)

How do you guys tackle Section C? I don't even fully understand what 'creative processes' means. Care to enlighten me? ::)

I just talk about how I use Sibelius... my teacher gave us the task of creating a 3 - 5 minute film score, so I usually refer to how I had the storyline of the movie and then trying to express that through the style and melody of music.
I think it's just your thought processes while creating the composition, well that's what I've been interpreting it as anyway...  :-\
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2010, 09:48:05 pm »
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Yeah that's what I do for any questions related to 'preservation of the work' and such
which sometimes they ask the creative processes in terms of that, sometimes other things
stuff about how sibelius you can use 'trial and error' and playback what you've composed to hear if it works
but how no live recording means some expressive elements cannot be notated accurately
utter bullcrap really hahaha

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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2010, 09:51:46 pm »
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hahah no I completely agree, but essentially yes. and the fact that I didn't have much/any real theory experience also assisted with the trial and error things. and also the software was really hard to get the hang of in the beginning, plus my computer crashed half way through which was fun!
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2010, 09:56:20 pm »
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hahahahaha
yeah i was gonna talk about how in mine i had an illegal copy of sibelius but then it stopped working and coz i didn't wanna pay for it i can't save my scores which made for difficulties! but i figured i shouldn't write that :)
well good luck guys!
i'm going to look over some section B stuff now coz i keep forgetting important details which is a good start
freedom in about 16 hours wooooooo! doing well at this exam could get me high enough for music/arts at monash fingers crossed..so time to do some last minute revision :)

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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2010, 10:01:03 pm »
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hahaha nice work :P
you too! yeah I'm gonna go look over assessment reports etc to try and psych myself into feeling good about this exam lol. i'm so excited about finishing, in exactly 16 hours we will be totally freeeee
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2010, 10:38:19 pm »
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Good Luck guys! Thanks heaps for clearing up the definition.

I now feel as prepared as I'd ever bother being for this subject. ^^
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Re: What are you guys doing for your compositions?
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2010, 10:46:28 pm »
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No worries - good luck guys!
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