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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2010, 10:21:46 pm »
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ummm.. 8039? LOL never called someone by number b4 hahahah
ye, was that sarcasm? because i am still kinda reconsidering doing 2 3/4s cuz im still not sure,
sorry for the people who see this and like im going off topic, i noe.. sorrryy xD
If you are set on doing 7 subjects, unless you have done any 3/4s in year 10 or before, I'd highly recommend going 2 in year 11, 5 in year 12.
1 in year 11, 6 in year 12 is also a viable option but you have to be really dedicated in year 12 and make sure you know your 1/2s in year 11 back to front so year 12 won't be too hard to manage.

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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2010, 11:15:48 pm »
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ummm.. 8039? LOL never called someone by number b4 hahahah
ye, was that sarcasm? because i am still kinda reconsidering doing 2 3/4s cuz im still not sure,
sorry for the people who see this and like im going off topic, i noe.. sorrryy xD

Nah it's possible. Especially over 2 years should be a piece of cake. Many people do 7 who aim for 99.95.

I'm doing 6 3/4s without year 11 including methods and chem and getting by. Wouldn't recommend my way tho.

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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2010, 11:31:42 pm »
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If I could do VCE again then I would do 2 3/4 subjects in year 11. Was never offered the option though :(.
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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2010, 12:05:20 am »
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7 subjects? Wut.

Some people can actually handle that. Shocking isn't it?

Its not that people can't handle it, its just a waste of time.. (generally)
Just from what I think.. I'd prefer to spend more time on 5 subjects in year 12 + year 11 3/4 than to do a load of work that won't really count for anything.

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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2010, 12:13:16 am »
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If I could do VCE again then I would do 2 3/4 subjects in year 11. Was never offered the option though :(.

+ 1.  This is like gold.  It gives you money in the bank going into year 12, taking loads of pressure off.
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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2010, 12:38:49 am »
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If I could do VCE again then I would do 2 3/4 subjects in year 11. Was never offered the option though :(.

+ 1.  This is like gold.  It gives you money in the bank going into year 12, taking loads of pressure off.

you have a 48 :( you have some pressure off too, i have zero.
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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2010, 06:37:17 pm »
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hey vexx,
i noticed on your 2011 thing at the bottom says "repeat english language"? does that mean you think it is really hard? :S
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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2010, 07:17:26 pm »
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hey vexx,
i noticed on your 2011 thing at the bottom says "repeat english language"? does that mean you think it is really hard? :S

i didn't realise unit 3 was a research-based humanities purely essay topic, and so i knew the content really well, it's not that hard really but i did bad in all my essay assessments purely because i write like a textbook haha.
but my last sac apparently was extremely good (my teacher said) and much more structured but it was a written analysis so a bit different, though i've improved just won't get the score i'm aiming for which is 38+ and so my enter will suffer. i need more time to work on essays from the beginning.. but i may not repeat, it depends how everything goes, if i cant be bothered repeating etc.
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Re: English Language vs. english !help!
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2010, 08:21:55 pm »
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omg, i never knew english language was based on research? So it isnt just remebering words and analysing them? is it like history? i never knewww! D= i thought it was a little easier because people say it is a little bit sciencey and stuff. =S
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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2010, 08:24:01 pm »
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can you do lit, english and english language simultaneously in vce?

yes but only 2 count in top four.

So, 2 must always count in your primary four if you're doing these three? Or is it that only 1 must go in the primary four but another one more can to if it's at least your fourth highest study score?

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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2010, 08:45:01 pm »
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omg, i never knew english language was based on research? So it isnt just remebering words and analysing them? is it like history? i never knewww! D= i thought it was a little easier because people say it is a little bit sciencey and stuff. =S

it's like a humanities unit 3 with some sciencey knowledge to incorporate in, and unit 4 is very technical and very much more sciencey. just unit 3 wow... ha
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English language or Mainstream English??
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2011, 05:44:47 pm »
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Which subject is easier?
Which subject is more intresting?

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Re: English language or Mainstream English??
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2011, 05:53:45 pm »
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from my experience of english (yr10) is novel and theme based whereas englang is a more analytical subject

Pros Englang
-no novels -(does not technically mean not remembering quotes)
-no speeches
-shorter exam (2 hours)
-scaled up (+1 maybe?)
-less competition


Cons Englang
-difficult to find tutors etc
-makes you think outside the box into real world applications (can be difficult)
-learn heaps grammar





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Re: English language or Mainstream English??
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2011, 06:08:03 pm »
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I heard that English Language is MORE competitive. But I could be wrong.

I do both subjects, and personally I prefer English Language, but I'm really into grammar and all that so that might just be me. I'd say that English Language is less subjective than English, as it is more 'sciencey'.

But don't choose a subject based on 'easiness', because remember if a subject is 'easy', chances are it'll be 'easy' for the rest of the state too.

Eng Lang gets scaled up by around about 1, I believe.

If you're a more sciencey person, English Language may be the way to go. If you are good at analysing texts and stuff like that, maybe choose English. But remember that one of them has to be in your top 4. Oh, and there's also Literature.
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Re: English language or Mainstream English??
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2011, 06:13:24 pm »
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English is:
-More focused on abstract ideas (although Eng Lang is not totally devoid of these)
-Allows more room for creativity and has less structure
-Probably more focused on the human condition
-Similar but not the same as what you have done in earlier years. You should be confident in many aspects of the course.

Eng Lang:
-Will turn you into a grammar-conscious freak
-Will not be as daunting because the exam is shorter
-Focuses more on the science of language
-Probably has less available resources
-Requires less detailed attention to specific texts but may require more detailed knowledge of grammar/syntax/etc.

Both (may) have:
-A requirement to analyse language
-Oral presentations
-Essays
-The need to memorise things (memorisation of quotes in English is not hard nor pivotal)
-Meaning n real life

The scaling factor is effectively canceled out, in Eng Lang there is slight upscaling (and the reverse for English) near the median. In English you are up against the majority of the state, in Eng Lang you are competing with a smaller group and this is probably a tiny bit harder.

I would have to say both are very interesting with the difference resting on what you are curious about. But having said that, I have never studied Eng Lang (though I've had many conversations about it with friends) and I am now going to make a "switch" and study linguistics at university - they are both pretty interesting. As for what's easier that again depends...
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