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Geometry help!
« on: August 26, 2008, 01:17:02 pm »
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Ok not sure if this is in the right section, but anyway.

I'm having trouble with this question

Find the distance from the point P(-1,2-1) from the line whose parametric equations are;



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Re: Help with distance from a point to a line.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 01:31:42 pm »
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I have answered in picture format because I fail at words:


If it doesnt make sense get someone else to clarify because I'm leaving pretty soon for work and won't be on FSN for probably 24 hours :P

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Re: Help with distance from a point to a line.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 01:34:22 pm »
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I can do it with Pythag.. but I'm having trouble finding the normal vector to project it onto.

Thanks anyway:)

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Re: Help with distance from a point to a line.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 02:51:26 pm »
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ahh nvm.. figured it out.. turns out I was using an equation wrong! it was doing my head in, haha.

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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 06:07:30 pm »
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I really can't seem to get my head around geometry, I don't know why.

a) Find the vector equation of the plane through the points (2,-1,0) and (-5,-3,1) that is parallel to the line joining the points (3,5,-1) and (0,3,-2)

b) Find the parametric equations of the straight line through the origin that is perpendicular to this plane, and find where it intersects the plane.

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but I am not sure by what it means 'vector equation'...

any help would be greatly appreciated,
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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 08:07:18 pm »
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by vector equation, i hope they meant:


as for b), basically you need to find a point on that plane which perpendicularly projects a line through the origin. The line would follow the general vector equation . Since it is perpendicular to the plane, its "velocity" must be the normal vector, and since it goes through the origin, r(0)=(0,0,0). Hence, if we let the line be L,


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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 08:10:36 pm »
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ah yep..any ideas on how to approach this?

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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 08:48:23 pm »
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so we know that the normal vector is <4,-10,8> (i hope), hence

hence, the cartesian equation for the plane is



subbing in any of those points would yield c=9

now, we also know that the equation for the line is

hence, subbing in the above vector for x,y,z:





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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 06:21:46 pm »
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(2,-1,0) and (-5,-3.1) that is parallel to the line joining the points (3,5,-1) and (0,3,-2)

shit, just realised a typo should be (-5,-3,1).

and thanks a lot Mao.

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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 06:28:57 pm »
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I was wondering, by vector equation.. could they also mean (x,y,z)+t(a,b,c)+s(d,e,f) ?

and if that was the case, then could use the vector joining (2,-1,0) and (-5,-3,1) and the vector joining (3,5,-1) and (0,3,-2).

To get

(2,-1,0) + t(-7,-2,1) + s(-3,2,1)

sorry if this is a dumb question, I just don't get this stuff and it's been a loooong day/

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Re: Geometry help!
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2008, 06:51:02 pm »
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mmm it could

but i'm a little skeptical on using two parameters =P
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