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John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
Junxvcs:
Could someone please highlight the differences between John Monash and Elizabeth Blackburn science school. I am trying to decide between the 2 and would also like the know the VCE subjects at John Monash if anyone knows. Thanks
Charles12324:
Hey, I went to JMSS so can't comment too much on EBSS. I do know a few things though:
1. JMSS starts in year 10 while EBSS starts in year 11
2. I think extended investigation is a compulsory subject at EBSS
JMSS specific
3. You are encouraged to do 2 sciences + 2 maths (methods + specialist, they only let you do further if you're really struggling with maths) + 1 English (lit, lang or mainstream) + 1 subject of your choice (they encourage a humanities subject but you can negotiate too). However, this isn't a hard and fast rule and you can negotiate with the teachers and explain why you'd like to deviate from this. I know many of my friends did that.
4. They also offer accelerated subjects for methods, physics, bio and chem.
For methods, you have to sit a readiness test towards the end of the year you've been accepted and ~50 kids are accepted into methods 1/2.
Chem and physics have their own pathways which you can find in the handbook if you're accepted
Bio has no prerequisite to do 3/4 in year 11. You can just skip right to it.
Also of note: to do 2 3/4's in year 11, you need to have around a 90% average (calculated from all your yr10 subjects) but this can be a bit lower but it'll need some persuading :p
I hope this has helped you! Take it with a grain of salt as I graduated last year so they might change some things around
Junxvcs:
--- Quote from: Charles12324 on May 27, 2022, 03:13:25 pm ---Hey, I went to JMSS so can't comment too much on EBSS. I do know a few things though:
1. JMSS starts in year 10 while EBSS starts in year 11
2. I think extended investigation is a compulsory subject at EBSS
JMSS specific
3. You are encouraged to do 2 sciences + 2 maths (methods + specialist, they only let you do further if you're really struggling with maths) + 1 English (lit, lang or mainstream) + 1 subject of your choice (they encourage a humanities subject but you can negotiate too). However, this isn't a hard and fast rule and you can negotiate with the teachers and explain why you'd like to deviate from this. I know many of my friends did that.
4. They also offer accelerated subjects for methods, physics, bio and chem.
For methods, you have to sit a readiness test towards the end of the year you've been accepted and ~50 kids are accepted into methods 1/2.
Chem and physics have their own pathways which you can find in the handbook if you're accepted
Bio has no prerequisite to do 3/4 in year 11. You can just skip right to it.
Also of note: to do 2 3/4's in year 11, you need to have around a 90% average (calculated from all your yr10 subjects) but this can be a bit lower but it'll need some persuading :p
I hope this has helped you! Take it with a grain of salt as I graduated last year so they might change some things around
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Hi, thanks. Does JMSS offer the ability to do unit 1/2 subjects in Yr10 or 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?
Charles12324:
--- Quote from: Junxvcs on June 12, 2022, 02:26:32 pm ---Hi, thanks. Does JMSS offer the ability to do unit 1/2 subjects in Yr10 or 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?
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You can do unit 1/2 methods, physics and chemistry. You can’t do 1/2 biology in yr10 but they have electives that cover the content and you can just go straight to 3/4 bio in yr11. 1/2 bio is pretty irrelevant to 3/4 anyways.
Junxvcs:
--- Quote from: Charles12324 on June 12, 2022, 08:39:33 pm ---You can do unit 1/2 methods, physics and chemistry. You can’t do 1/2 biology in yr10 but they have electives that cover the content and you can just go straight to 3/4 bio in yr11. 1/2 bio is pretty irrelevant to 3/4 anyways.
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I’m also assuming they have a strict 5 unit 3/4 subject maximum in Yr12 at JMSS and don’t allow 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?
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