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General Discussion => Sport => General Discussion Boards => Cricket => Topic started by: Joseph41 on January 24, 2019, 02:30:38 pm
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Any predictions for this series?
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Sri Lanka didn't look too great against NZ so there's a good chance we can win 2-0. It will be interesting to see how we go with even more changes but Richardson looked pretty good in the ODIs and Patterson showed a lot of promise in the tour match. Players like Khawaja and Starc would want to step up after being quite disappointing against India.
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Sri Lanka didn't look too great against NZ so there's a good chance we can win 2-0. It will be interesting to see how we go with even more changes but Richardson looked pretty good in the ODIs and Patterson showed a lot of promise in the tour match. Players like Khawaja and Starc would want to step up after being quite disappointing against India.
Pretty good start! Sri Lanka 3/58 at lunch.
How unlucky has Paine been at the toss? Haha.
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Look, I know everyone said Aus did terribly against India, but I think that the scoreline doesn't really do an adequate job of showing how that series went. Aus won one, and were never entirely ruled out in 2 others. The scoreline could have easily been 3-0 to Aus instead of 2-1 against. Besides which, they lost key tosses, and players like Cummins showed their true value. Because of this, I'd say that Australia could/should easily win this series. Cummins and Richardson are both looking great, awesome show on debut by Jhye. Not convinced by Labuschagne over Pucovski, but we'll have to see as the series goes on. It's just possible that Aus won't really need their batting much... :P
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Richardson has a lot of potential, although I have a feeling the selectors will annoyingly favour Starc and Hazlewood for the Ashes, even though Starc should go back to Shield to work on his game. It’s great to see a bowler who bowls a little slower but creates more swing.
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Pretty good start! Sri Lanka 3/58 at lunch.
How unlucky has Paine been at the toss? Haha.
I think I read that Paine is 1/8 for the toss
It's now 7/102, I didn't think they'd fall away this quickly
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Going to be a quick 3 day match, this one!
Australia been made to look good by Sri Lanka :D
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Look, I know everyone said Aus did terribly against India, but I think that the scoreline doesn't really do an adequate job of showing how that series went. Aus won one, and were never entirely ruled out in 2 others. The scoreline could have easily been 3-0 to Aus instead of 2-1 against. Besides which, they lost key tosses, and players like Cummins showed their true value. Because of this, I'd say that Australia could/should easily win this series. Cummins and Richardson are both looking great, awesome show on debut by Jhye. Not convinced by Labuschagne over Pucovski, but we'll have to see as the series goes on. It's just possible that Aus won't really need their batting much... :P
Even with the tosses, Australia certainly should have won that 2-1. That first Test in Adelaide, our batsmen just collapsed. Had any two batsmen scored an extra 20 runs in each innings, we'd have won, and we had plenty that were dismissed for cheap change.
Seriously, Patterson is sort of expected to hit hundreds now, and part of me reckons our openers should be capable of putting on a partnership worth more than SL's current total, given SL's performance in the tour match.
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Sounds like Burns and Head are recovering pretty well.
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Looking a really good match at the moment, nice to see an Aussie batsman finally ton up. Any thoughts on who goes when Smith is fit? I lean towards Khawaja, as I really can't see anyone else to drop, whereas I don't see Warner fitting into the team at the moment, with Harris and Burns both looking good. Don't expect Head or Labuschagne to be dropped after their recent form, so I guess that leaves Khawaja, who hasn't been looking good lately. Any thoughts on whether Paine stays or not? I think he should, particularly after winning another toss :o Anyway, nice to see Aus dominating once again, though I'm not sure that it's entirely a good thing, covering up for the issues that are still there.
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Looking a really good match at the moment, nice to see an Aussie batsman finally ton up. Any thoughts on who goes when Smith is fit? I lean towards Khawaja, as I really can't see anyone else to drop, whereas I don't see Warner fitting into the team at the moment, with Harris and Burns both looking good. Don't expect Head or Labuschagne to be dropped after their recent form, so I guess that leaves Khawaja, who hasn't been looking good lately. Any thoughts on whether Paine stays or not? I think he should, particularly after winning another toss :o Anyway, nice to see Aus dominating once again, though I'm not sure that it's entirely a good thing, covering up for the issues that are still there.
I'd pick Khawaja over Labuschagne every day of the week.
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Looking a really good match at the moment, nice to see an Aussie batsman finally ton up. Any thoughts on who goes when Smith is fit? I lean towards Khawaja, as I really can't see anyone else to drop, whereas I don't see Warner fitting into the team at the moment, with Harris and Burns both looking good. Don't expect Head or Labuschagne to be dropped after their recent form, so I guess that leaves Khawaja, who hasn't been looking good lately. Any thoughts on whether Paine stays or not? I think he should, particularly after winning another toss :o Anyway, nice to see Aus dominating once again, though I'm not sure that it's entirely a good thing, covering up for the issues that are still there.
Khawaja would probably be first choice for the top 6 (not counting warner/smith) with Labuschagne and Burns also making the team as they look to have good temperaments. I don't think Harris or Head should be playing though - on flat decks they are fine but in England they wouldn't be able to cope. Smith will probably return but not as captain. Also mathew wade deserves a chance to play as a specialist bat at 6.
Paine, as much as I like him he isn't ideal to test cricket for batting - his keeping is fine though. His FC average is <30. However, i do still think its important to keep him as captain, can't really think of anyone else (maybe cummins)
For bowlers Lyon and Cummins are locks and Hazlewood should return so will be a toss up between Richardson/Starc. Richardson is better right now but they will probably choose Starc for the variety of having a left-armer + his connections.
Look, I know everyone said Aus did terribly against India, but I think that the scoreline doesn't really do an adequate job of showing how that series went. Aus won one, and were never entirely ruled out in 2 others. The scoreline could have easily been 3-0 to Aus instead of 2-1 against.
Sadly, I thought it was closer to 3-1 for India tbh and losing 2-1 was a very good scoreline given the way they played. Without rain Aus would've lost the last test comfortably by an innings (they would've easily been all out before 320 if they batted on day 4/5 at the SCG).
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I'd pick Khawaja over Labuschagne every day of the week.
Me too, but he played a key role in the last test, while Khawaja has been out of form. Hence there is quite a possibility that Khawaja could be the drop. Personally I would like to try Wade out again instead of Paine, maybe try Glenn Maxwell in place of either Labuschagne or Head, adding that spinning option as well as a very good batsman, don't forget that ton in India. Another interesting question is who leads Australia in the World Cup? With Warner returning Finch could get the axe, Paine isn't in the team and Smith is banned from captaincy for another year. People have suggested Maxwell, and I must say his BBL captaincy has been really good for the Stars, including helping them improbably defend 134. Any thoughts on this?
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^Sure, he played a key role in the last Test. But his scores so far: 0, 13, 25, 43, 38, 81, 6. Not a bad start by any means, but he has a First Class average of 33, and IMO Khawaja is one of our best bats, even if out of form.
Wade - not opposed to him batting at 6, but not at the expense of Paine.
Honestly, I'd go something like:
(1) Burns
(2) Harris
(3) Warner
(4) Khawaja
(5) Smith
(6) Head
(7) Paine (c) +
(8.) Cummins
(9) Richardson
(10) Lyon
(11) Hazlewood
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Something similar to J41 (somewhat)
(1) Burns
(2) Warner
(3) Smith
(4) Khawaja
(5) Labuschagne
(6) Wade
(7) Paine (c) +
(8.) Cummins
(9) Richardson
(10) Lyon
(11) Hazlewood
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Something similar to J41 (somewhat)
(1) Burns
(2) Warner
(3) Smith
(4) Khawaja
(5) Labuschagne
(6) Wade
(7) Paine (c) +
(8.) Cummins
(9) Richardson
(10) Lyon
(11) Hazlewood
You're going to drop our arguably best performed batsman in the India series and someone who scored 160 in a triple century partnership from when we were 3/28?
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You're going to drop our arguably best performed batsman in the India series and someone who scored 160 in a triple century partnership from when we were 3/28?
who was the best performed batsman? If you're talking about Harris he only averaged 38 and whilst stats aren't everything he doesn't have the technique to survive in conditions (especially as an opener) which he will face in Eng - unless he decides to start playing straight and not throwing his bat at everything wide. Maybe only play cut shots once he has batted for an hour.
and Head today basically playing SL's C team so not gonna take too much out of it. Gotta remember that there ~6 months till the first test against England so shouldn't just picking on who has a small bit of form.
EDIT: head would probably be the standby bat though because I still do think he will be good in the future
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Something similar to J41 (somewhat)
(1) Burns
(2) Warner
(3) Smith
(4) Khawaja
(5) Labuschagne
(6) Wade
(7) Paine (c) +
(8.) Cummins
(9) Richardson
(10) Lyon
(11) Hazlewood
^Sure, he played a key role in the last Test. But his scores so far: 0, 13, 25, 43, 38, 81, 6. Not a bad start by any means, but he has a First Class average of 33, and IMO Khawaja is one of our best bats, even if out of form.
Wade - not opposed to him batting at 6, but not at the expense of Paine.
Honestly, I'd go something like:
(1) Burns
(2) Harris
(3) Warner
(4) Khawaja
(5) Smith
(6) Head
(7) Paine (c) +
(8.) Cummins
(9) Richardson
(10) Lyon
(11) Hazlewood
Can't see Khawaja batting at 4...
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Can't see Khawaja batting at 4...
Why's that?
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I think most of those mentioned will be in the squad, and that there is still a fair amount of uncertainty which of them will make it into a starting team. I've been saying we should include Burns for a while, so was glad to see him perform today (hoping for a double tomorrow...). I'm inclined to think both Smith and Warner will be in the starting XI unless they are injured or do badly in the World Cup.
But there's also a lot of uncertainty because there's a lot of cricket in the leadup to the Ashes. There's the second half of Sheffield Shield, World Cup form could influence the squad makeup (though I'm not a fan of picking people for red ball based on white ball form), and so could performance in the Australia A tour around that time or performance in county cricket by anyone participating in that (I think Maxi, maybe Renshaw?). It's just that there's a lot of uncertainty because no-one has performed quite enough, and it's not clear that (hopefully) a couple of good Tests against a weak team like current Sri Lanka should dominate selection decisions against a stronger team in very different conditions.
And I don't see any reason for Paine to stop being captain and keeper. He's been a decent keeper and was one of our more reliable batsmen last year (though he didn't make many big scores).
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who was the best performed batsman? If you're talking about Harris he only averaged 38 and whilst stats aren't everything he doesn't have the technique to survive in conditions (especially as an opener) which he will face in Eng - unless he decides to start playing straight and not throwing his bat at everything wide. Maybe only play cut shots once he has batted for an hour.
and Head today basically playing SL's C team so not gonna take too much out of it. Gotta remember that there ~6 months till the first test against England so shouldn't just picking on who has a small bit of form.
EDIT: head would probably be the standby bat though because I still do think he will be good in the future
Head did fairly well in the India series. Didn't he score a couple of half centuries? Not many in the team could say the same.
I agree, beating a domestic-level attack is nothing to be proud of. But you need discipline regardless to stay in for that long, and look at what happened to our top order.
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Khawaja is clearly not in good form right now. This was pretty well summed up by his atrocious dismissal yesterday. Unless he performs very well in the lead up to the Ashes, I would consider putting Burns at number 3, since I feel like Warner and Harris should be opening. At this stage, Smith is very likely to be number 4 and Head definitely deserves the number 5 position. Of course this depends on how shield/county/Australia A/World Cup goes, but at this point it’ll probably be our strongest top order.
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Head did fairly well in the India series. Didn't he score a couple of half centuries? Not many in the team could say the same.
I agree, beating a domestic-level attack is nothing to be proud of. But you need discipline regardless to stay in for that long, and look at what happened to our top order.
Yeah having the concentration to bat long periods of time is good. With regards to the top order - the first 10 overs was quite difficult but since maybe the 12th-14th the pitch has been completely flat with no movement.
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I'm beginning to think the current Test has been specifically organised to disrupt the received wisdom around Ashes squad selection :)
(though of course with the disclaimer that they are playing a much weaker team than India).
Harris had been considered the best of the openers and was probably intended to open with Warner, and yet this Test Burns performed and Harris didn't.
Labuschagne's spin was under question, and he took a wicket (we still shouldn't pick him for his spinning abilities, though, and I'm not convinced he's in the best 6 batsmen).
Starc's place was being questioned, and he took a 5-for.
Khawaja was starting to get questions (though I still thought he'd make the Ashes squad), and he made a century.
No Australian had made a century in the first five Tests of the summer, and 4 batsmen made centuries.
Anything else I missed? :)