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Title: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Joseph41 on October 06, 2020, 09:37:01 am
Hi all!

Once the GAT has finished on Wednesday, feel free to use this thread to compare answers, to ask any questions you have, and for any other post-GAT discussion. :)

Good luck, everybody!
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Joseph41 on October 07, 2020, 01:48:32 pm
How did everybody go? :)
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: blueycan on October 07, 2020, 01:49:13 pm
My first GAT is over  :o
I honestly have no estimate of how well or how poorly I did, I feel like I was cohesive within my writing tasks but also feel like I could have done better. I enjoyed some of the MCQ's, did pretty well in the english ones, but a lot of others were pretty ambiguous and I ended up guessing around 6 answers.
How did everyone do?
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: rozmaaate on October 07, 2020, 01:57:13 pm
Did everyone  get “pessimistic” for the cartoon question with the kid lifting weights?
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: ArtyDreams on October 07, 2020, 01:58:01 pm
It was okay-ish. I found the writing topics quite good and somewhat enjoyable to write about - but some of the mcq were a bit annoying. Made a complete guess on around 4 of the mcq, half guessed a few.

I was expecting more cartoons/proverbs in the english section tbh. I found it so hard to distinguish with some answers though. Maths section was okay.

Overall, not bad. Its a bit difficult to say how well I did - but not bad?? How did everyone else do?
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Sine on October 07, 2020, 02:00:23 pm
What were the essay topics?
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: lleonx2 on October 07, 2020, 02:03:49 pm
y’all wanna compare answers? I circled mine just before the gat ended but I’m sure I got at least half of them wrong

essay topics on cars and adventure
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: bamboozled on October 07, 2020, 02:10:02 pm
Quote from: rozmaaate on October 07, 2020, 01:57:13 pm
Did everyone  get “pessimistic” for the cartoon question with the kid lifting weights?

I was stuck between pessimistic and ‘self-serving’ I think it was. Ended up doing self serving because she wanted to get herself involved I guess? Probably got it wrong though.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Coolgalbornin03Lo on October 07, 2020, 02:14:59 pm
Quote from: bamboozled on October 07, 2020, 02:10:02 pm
I was stuck between pessimistic and ‘self-serving’ I think it was. Ended up doing self serving because she wanted to get herself involved I guess? Probably got it wrong though.

Oops I put the annoying/persistent option bc the kids face was annoyed and he clearly didn’t need help

Quote from: Sine on October 07, 2020, 02:00:23 pm
What were the essay topics?

They all resolved around adventure and I picked

1. Adventure doesn’t always involve risk; adventure is in everyday life (something along these lines)

There was also
2. From adventure there is learning (also not quoted 100%)
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: rozmaaate on October 07, 2020, 02:15:17 pm
Quote from: bamboozled on October 07, 2020, 02:10:02 pm
I was stuck between pessimistic and ‘self-serving’ I think it was. Ended up doing self serving because she wanted to get herself involved I guess? Probably got it wrong though.

Hmm that is fair point but pessimistic is when she always thinks the worst outcome is going to happen so that must be what she is otherwise she wouldn’t have helped the kid out
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: blueycan on October 07, 2020, 02:25:53 pm
Quote from: rozmaaate on October 07, 2020, 01:57:13 pm
Did everyone  get “pessimistic” for the cartoon question with the kid lifting weights?
I put tiresome  :o I interpreted as the mother wants to be involved in everything and tends to annoy her child a lot
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: lleonx2 on October 07, 2020, 02:26:41 pm
Quote from: rozmaaate on October 07, 2020, 02:15:17 pm
Hmm that is fair point but pessimistic is when she always thinks the worst outcome is going to happen so that must be what she is otherwise she wouldn’t have helped the kid out

I ended up putting tiresome, but it hindsight it prob wasn’t that

I’ll chuck in the rest of my answers while I’m here.
1c 2b 3D 4b 5d 6c 7d 8d 9a 10c 11a 12d 13b 14a 15b 16a 17a 18c 19c 20b 21c 22d 23d 24a 25a 26b 27c 28a 29b 30a 31b 32d 33a 34d 35d 36a 37c 38a 39d 40c 41d 42b 43d 44b 45a 46d 47b 48b 49a 50a 51c 52a 53b 54c 55b 56a 57a 58c 59a 60c 61c 62b 63a 64b 65a 66c 67b 68c 69a 70c
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Othello on October 07, 2020, 03:03:01 pm
I dunno but it just felt really weird to write a persuasive text after 2 years of not writing any
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: MoonChild1234 on October 07, 2020, 03:07:36 pm
I got self serving, because it was clear she was only helping him for her own peace of mind instead of letting him persist himself (could be wrong tho)

I thought it was alright, the writing was surprisingly enjoyable haha
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on October 07, 2020, 03:09:32 pm
Have I ever mentioned, the GAT is my favourite exam?

I may have done something unwise; thoughts? In writing task 2 I used a quote from 'Ransom' (one of my English novels) because it fitted so well, and then I also used and somewhat analysed a quote from 'The Last Battle' (CS Lewis) about adventure. Was this the wrong thing to do??

RE the cartoon q - I think I put tiresome. It felt kinda unclear.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: MoonChild1234 on October 07, 2020, 03:12:11 pm
I think it's fine to use quotes, I've seen some high scoring samples use random quoted that fit :)
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: schoolstudent115 on October 07, 2020, 03:14:55 pm
Quote from: Coolgalbornin03Lo on October 07, 2020, 02:14:59 pm
1. Adventure doesn’t always involve risk; adventure is in everyday life (something along these lines)

There was also
2. From adventure there is learning (also not quoted 100%)

I did the exact same.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: MoonChild1234 on October 07, 2020, 03:15:45 pm
I kinda just used all 4 in a way... Idk if this was allowed lol
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on October 07, 2020, 03:25:05 pm
Quote from: MoonChild1234 on October 07, 2020, 03:15:45 pm
I kinda just used all 4 in a way... Idk if this was allowed lol
Yep, it's allowed, FYI.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: bamboozled on October 07, 2020, 03:34:10 pm
Am I the only one that really struggled with sam cooking grain?? I’m decent at maths yet it took me almost 20 minutes to understand what was going on. In the end I gave up and took an educated guess  :(
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: eloisegrace on October 07, 2020, 04:30:31 pm
Quote from: bamboozled on October 07, 2020, 03:34:10 pm
Am I the only one that really struggled with sam cooking grain?? I’m decent at maths yet it took me almost 20 minutes to understand what was going on. In the end I gave up and took an educated guess  :(
It took me a solid 20 minutes too, don't worry. I think I figured it out, but I've just realised I did that questions working on my actual GAT not the question paper :( I might re-do it to see if I can try and help other people :)

EDIT: I have the working for the first questions, attached in spoiler (no promises they are right)
GAT Q24, 25, 26
Question 24
U=A(mL)/R(mL)

90g of R = 125mL (using 180g of R = 250mL)

150g of A (240-90=150)

How many mL of A do we have?

Trial II: 2.4=A(mL)/125
Therefore A=300mL
In this trial, there are 300g of A so it can be determined that 1g of A = 1mL of A

U=150/125
U=1.2
B

Question 25
7/3=A(g)/90
Therefore A(g)=210
250-210=40mL
A

*now looking at my working I am not sure if I am right but feel free to correct me :)

Question 26
360g of R = 500mL
Fluffy Texture = 1.44 = A(mL)/R(mL)
1.44=A(mL)/500
A(mL)= 720mL = 720g
C
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: lm21074 on October 07, 2020, 05:04:44 pm
Very grateful for the memes :) Lots about Framboise and her "curious bewilderment" (I put this option but don't think it was correct) about her mother's "album" containing mysterious language.

This was my first GAT and my initial thought after it was - what were the people at VCAA even thinking when they wrote these questions?! ???

P.S. For the people who did the GAT today, this emoticon (???) is called "huh"
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: MoonChild1234 on October 07, 2020, 05:15:15 pm
I got all the same as you for those eloisegrace!! :D
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Massimo1 on October 07, 2020, 06:00:58 pm
I feel like I messed up on the second writing task. Like I couldn't think of a whole essay worth of points for any prompt so I ended up like writing about one prompt per body paragraph lmao.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: ddevan on October 07, 2020, 06:04:57 pm
Anyone else find the "intentionally literal" speaker 2 guy so funny? Gave me a good chuckle as I was reading it.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Unknown-111 on October 07, 2020, 06:30:08 pm
What did you guys write about for the first writing task?
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Jevontae on October 07, 2020, 06:48:53 pm
Ok, Idk if it's just me but question number 64 was like the easiest question I've ever seen. Who else agrees lmao.
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: nottoohappy on October 07, 2020, 07:10:02 pm
The English part of the GAT is a joke every question goes like this

Time is not always, but sometimes, never not unreliable and in essence, most scholars eschew objucation; imperceptibly predisposed to the ireffutable pretence of defenestration¹. Ahem yes! Although a cacophony in hindsight, his earlier frameworks serve to provocate castration or the often frivolous enigma of the observable universe; but not always.
                                      -Mahatma Gandhi
Defenestration¹: the act of being thrown out of a window.

From the passage, it is most likely:
A: Gertrude has transcended realities.
B: Existence is tentative.
C: Gertrude is self-serving.
D: Modernisation does not always improve India’s living standards.


Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on October 07, 2020, 07:25:36 pm
Anyone else loved that Mark Twain quote? I practically grew up on it*, nearly started laughing outright during the exam.
*Maybe slight exaggeration  ??? :P
Title: Re: GAT Discussion + Analysis: Wednesday 7 October 2020
Post by: Unknown-111 on October 07, 2020, 07:33:37 pm
Dude a lot of questions on there was a joke. I remember guessing most of them because there is no sure way to work out the answer.