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Title: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Joseph41 on October 11, 2020, 11:21:02 am
Alright.

I have an ongoing disagreement with a colleague about this.

How do you use emoji? Do things like ":P" and the like sort of function in a way that replaces punctuation, or are they simply in addition?

Discuss.
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: PhoenixxFire on October 11, 2020, 11:38:31 am
If it's at the end of a message and it's just a smiley it can go after punctuation, otherwise it replaces it.
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: angewina_naguen on October 11, 2020, 11:40:21 am
Alright.

I have an ongoing disagreement with a colleague about this.

How do you use emoji? Do things like ":P" and the like sort of function in a way that replaces punctuation, or are they simply in addition?

Discuss.

I use it to replace punctuation. Whenever I send out emails or I'm giving my students feedback for their responses and I don't want it to come off as being too serious or for the tone to be misread, I use exclamation marks to show I'm happy or enthusiastic about something. When those exclamation marks become excessive, I replace some of them with smiley emojis. I feel that having the punctuation mark AND the emoji is redundant. I really am interested in hearing the other side of the argument though  :)
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Bri MT on October 11, 2020, 11:42:58 am
Alright.

I have an ongoing disagreement with a colleague about this.

How do you use emoji? Do things like ":P" and the like sort of function in a way that replaces punctuation, or are they simply in addition?

Discuss.

I think this is where I stand:
- can go after punctuation at the end of a paragraph
- in a stand alone sentence replaces punctuation
- otherwise goes before punctuation
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Coolmate on October 11, 2020, 12:50:02 pm
I use it to replace punctuation. Whenever I send out emails or I'm giving my students feedback for their responses and I don't want it to come off as being too serious or for the tone to be misread, I use exclamation marks to show I'm happy or enthusiastic about something. When those exclamation marks become excessive, I replace some of them with smiley emojis. I feel that having the punctuation mark AND the emoji is redundant. I really am interested in hearing the other side of the argument though  :)

I 100% agree with this; I do the same thing with messages so it doesn't come across too serious etc. But I do sometimes put the emoji after the full stop on the forums, which I had never noticed until now ;D
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: homeworkisapotato on October 11, 2020, 01:49:17 pm
I use it to replace punctuation. Whenever I send out emails or I'm giving my students feedback for their responses and I don't want it to come off as being too serious or for the tone to be misread, I use exclamation marks to show I'm happy or enthusiastic about something. When those exclamation marks become excessive, I replace some of them with smiley emojis. I feel that having the punctuation mark AND the emoji is redundant. I really am interested in hearing the other side of the argument though  :)
I do this as well as I feel putting it before punctuation makes it look weird and putting it after punctuation kind of stops the flow and looks passive aggressive  ;D
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Aaron on October 11, 2020, 02:50:26 pm
I usually either use to replace or after punctuation (so answer to this is.. mixed).

I also see the use & frequency of emojis as important - spamming emojis in any sort of text can often be perceived as quite annoying and diminishes any positive effect it is intended to have.

I think a good comparison is word documents and the use (or overuse) of different colours, fonts, etc.

Just my opinion on it anyway.
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: sweetiepi on October 11, 2020, 02:52:16 pm
I use it in place of punctuation if trying to be friendly :D

After punctuation if I'm trying to seem passive-aggresive aha.
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Sine on October 11, 2020, 03:17:18 pm
I use it in place of punctuation  ;D

I think with texts/messages most people don't put a full stop even without an emoji. On the forums, users are a bit more formal with punctuation and for the most part users will not have a full stop before/after an emoji
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Calebark on October 11, 2020, 05:26:59 pm
🐢 bold of you to assume i ever use punctuation in the first place
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: heids on October 11, 2020, 06:15:50 pm
I most often use it as a replacement for punctuation :)  It's friendlier than full stops, which can be pretty harsh sometimes, and breaks up an over-the-top string of exclamation marks, which is my other way of being friendly!

Situations where I use it after punctuation:

a) When trying to remain fairly formal, but still friendly. More likely a workplace situation. :)
b) When I'm really excited about something and an exclamation mark just doesn't cut it! ;D
c) When I'm talking with those wonderful people who put the emoji before punctuation. (: *

Situations it can come before punctuation:

a) Never >:(.

* That was a rather lame attempt at passive-aggression that really didn't work out how it sounded in my head. :)
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Bri MT on October 11, 2020, 06:32:21 pm
I think this is where I stand:
- can go after punctuation at the end of a paragraph
- in a stand alone sentence replaces punctuation
- otherwise goes before punctuation

c) When I'm talking with those wonderful people who put the emoji before punctuation. (: *

Situations it can come before punctuation:

a) Never >:(.

* That was a rather lame attempt at passive-aggression that really didn't work out how it sounded in my head. :)

:o

You were so nice when I met you, we can still be friends right? right??
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: heids on October 11, 2020, 07:15:49 pm
:o

You were so nice when I met you, we can still be friends right? right??


Yeah, sure. (:
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Bri MT on October 11, 2020, 07:19:08 pm
Yeah, sure. (:

Great :D !



that was hard to write
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on October 11, 2020, 09:10:45 pm
I most often use it as a replacement for punctuation :)  It's friendlier than full stops, which can be pretty harsh sometimes, and breaks up an over-the-top string of exclamation marks, which is my other way of being friendly!

Situations where I use it after punctuation:

a) When trying to remain fairly formal, but still friendly. More likely a workplace situation. :)
b) When I'm really excited about something and an exclamation mark just doesn't cut it! ;D
c) When I'm talking with those wonderful people who put the emoji before punctuation. (: *

Situations it can come before punctuation:

a) Never >:(.

* That was a rather lame attempt at passive-aggression that really didn't work out how it sounded in my head. :)
Great :D !



that was hard to write
But now you can't! :P

Personally I would go with closer to, ignore the rules of punctuation if using emoticons. In general, just don't use them on actual things where punctuation matters. :)
I use a full stop before emoticons. :)
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Joseph41 on October 12, 2020, 08:42:11 am
Results have me shook. I only ever use emoji after punctuation. :o
Title: Re: Where does the emoji go?
Post by: Bri MT on October 12, 2020, 02:25:39 pm
But now you can't! :P

:P

Personally I would go with closer to, ignore the rules of punctuation if using emoticons. In general, just don't use them on actual things where punctuation matters. :)

I like being able to use emojis in semi-formal writing like emails because they're convenient as succinct tone and formality modifiers. That being said, I certainly wouldn't include them in highly formal writing.