Medicine FAQ / So You Want To Be A Doctor

[jmosh002]

Ahk, so most students would just do Undergrad at Clayton and then stop there?
(so Deakin undergrad is at geelong? or gippsland?)

Deakin uni doesn't have undergrad med.
Postgrad deakin is in geelong.
Postgrad monash is in gippsland.
This is why monash (clayton) is so popular, because it is the only uni that has undergrad med in victoria.

[Russ]

I think you're slightly confused about this.

Monash Undergrad: Clayton
Monash postgrad: Gippsland
Deakin postgrad: Geelong

You don't go from Clayton -> Gippsland, you only do one. They're completely separate courses.

[paulsterio]

This also isn't true, you can study whatever degree you want, you just need the three prerequisite subjects

Is it actually possible to study, say, Commerce and fit in the prerequisite subjects? I always thought it couldn't be done because you have to take a certain number of Commerce subjects and the ones that are left aren't enough to fit in the three and their pre-requisites as well.

Ahk, so most students would just do Undergrad at Clayton and then stop there?
(so Deakin undergrad is at geelong? or gippsland?)

You essentially have two paths:

- VCE -> MBBS at Monash Clayton -> Internship
- VCE -> BSc/BBioMed/Whatever -> MD at UoM OR MBBS at Monash Gippsland OR BMBS at Deakin Geelong -> Internship

Graduate entry and undergraduate entry courses are completely separate courses.

[Russ]

It wouldn't be as easy as doing science and doing it that way, but yeah it's definitely possible. I have an actuary major in my CSL group and one of my mates is a lawyer who's come back to uni to study medicine. So it's definitely not just science and biomed grads.

[pi]

Monash is at monash university isn't it D:

Someone's done their research about the course they want to get into 



(btw, yes, it's at the Clayton campus for the preclinical years)

[WhoTookMyUsername]

lol i thought i was 99.99999% sure it was at clayton before paul said it was at gippsland (didn't know he was referring to postgrad)

[paulsterio]

Graduate med, not Postgraduate

Calling it postgrad causes confusion

[Russ]

Eh, the difference is semantics

[jmosh002]

Graduate med, not Postgraduate

Calling it postgrad causes confusion

Why would it cause confusion?

[charmanderp]

Eh, the difference is semantics

Potato, potatoe.

[paulsterio]

Why would it cause confusion?

We had a massive discussion about it earlier this year, and this is what Shinny had to say - I don't know if he's wrong or right but it makes sense to me. So I've tried to be clearer so others don't get confused.

Seems like there's some major terminology confusion going on in this thread. I'm pretty sure undergrad=Monash and equivalent, graduate=UoM MD etc, and post-graduate=specialisation. Look at the university websites - they're almost always referred to as graduate degrees; not post-grad. Many say post-grad (even me too admittedly) instead of graduate, but I was made aware of this error not long ago. But yeh, Ngage0 has never referred to it as a post-grad degree - he's simply been asking about 'training', as Russ has needlessly corrected him on. I think he knows what he's talking about, and despite the naivety of his overall views concerning overseas training, needlessly correcting technicalities has deviated this thread a bit I think.

But yes, overseas equals bad. I've had several registrars who have been fully qualified specialists overseas, yet have come here and have required to be fully re-trained quite tediously despite their clear competency. Not quite as bad if you decide to come back immediately after your undergrad training, but still, I have a suspicion that they'll throw you into rural places and such initially.

[acinod]

How stressful/busy will this 'doctor' journey be?

Does it get harder and more busier or do you reach a certain point where it gets more chill and you have some more free-time?

[shinny]

How stressful/busy will this 'doctor' journey be?

Does it get harder and more busier or do you reach a certain point where it gets more chill and you have some more free-time?

It's quite up and down. First year is alright, second year is quite significantly harder, third year gets easier, fourth year's quite a bitch, fifth year's fairly chill. Once you graduate, your first couple of years (internship/residency) are bitchy in the sense that you have long hours and stressful work in general, but if you can cope with that, well least you don't need to worry about studying and whatnot. Once you become a specialist-in-training (registrar), you've basically got a hell of a lot more responsibility on your hands, not to mention that you'll need to start studying to make sure you pass your specialist exams. Only after you become a specialist does it really get consistently more chill.

[paulsterio]

How stressful/busy will this 'doctor' journey be?

Does it get harder and more busier or do you reach a certain point where it gets more chill and you have some more free-time?

Well at the moment, I find it pretty chill but my 2nd year friends tell me to enjoy it while I can

[acinod]

Ahahah yea the Monash med kids I know should have it harder than the Melbourne kids right? Since it's 5 years instead of 7. So Melbourne should be more chill or is it same thing?