Electrical or Civil Engineering? Personal experience would be great

[LOLs99]

There is but I have no idea what their links are, Im not part of their group lol. Search on facebook or ask your friends. I know they are definitely there.

Alright thanks. Just some quick question to ask you. I looked at the workshop material and they said u should be familiar with concepts and terminology from ELEN30009 ENAD, and I dont think 'bank loan system' is mentioned in the SS lecture notes...

Also, is Project Management a difficult subject? That 40% for essay 

[huaxiadragon]

Alright thanks. Just some quick question to ask you. I looked at the workshop material and they said u should be familiar with concepts and terminology from ELEN30009 ENAD, and I dont think 'bank loan system' is mentioned in the SS lecture notes...

Also, is Project Management a difficult subject? That 40% for essay 

Having done it, I can tell you ENAD and Signals and Systems are widely different subjects. You can pretty much learn them independently of each other. So I don't think it matter.

Project Management is super easy, compared to your core subjects like signals and systems you will be laughing when you are doing the course. Though be careful of the group work though, make sure you do most of it lol. I've found that the standard of work done my engineers just seem to be higher for those, especially since for that subject you will use Microsoft project, which is more easy to learn for engineers.

Yeah I got an easy H1 for that subject.

[LOLs99]

Having done it, I can tell you ENAD and Signals and Systems are widely different subjects. You can pretty much learn them independently of each other. So I don't think it matter.

Project Management is super easy, compared to your core subjects like signals and systems you will be laughing when you are doing the course. Though be careful of the group work though, make sure you do most of it lol. I've found that the standard of work done my engineers just seem to be higher for those, especially since for that subject you will use Microsoft project, which is more easy to learn for engineers.

Yeah I got an easy H1 for that subject.

Okay, I am just a bit worried whether I can cope with SS haha.
Is the matlab stuff in SS really hard?

For the Project Management essay assessment, is it easy to get >95%? Sadly, I am not really good with writing essays though.
As for the exam assessment, is it also writing essays?

[huaxiadragon]

Okay, I am just a bit worried whether I can cope with SS haha.
Is the matlab stuff in SS really hard?

For the Project Management essay assessment, is it easy to get >95%? Sadly, I am not really good with writing essays though.
As for the exam assessment, is it also writing essays?

Matlab stuff in SS is time consuming but not hard.

As for the essay in project management, Greater than 95% is not easy lol. But yeah the exam is essentially short answer questions.

[LOLs99]

Matlab stuff in SS is time consuming but not hard.

As for the essay in project management, Greater than 95% is not easy lol. But yeah the exam is essentially short answer questions.

Hmhhh..so what do you actually write for essays? composed of short answer questions ??
I realized you mentioned about group work essay but the handbook only stated individual essay worth 40% ?

[huaxiadragon]

Hmhhh..so what do you actually write for essays? composed of short answer questions ??
I realized you mentioned about group work essay but the handbook only stated individual essay worth 40% ?

For that you come up with a complete professional project plan for a imaginary project in a group. There's not as much writing, but a lot more use of Microsoft Project Software.

At least that's what happened when I did it 2 years ago. Not sure whether that's been changed

[LOLs99]

For that you come up with a complete professional project plan for a imaginary project in a group. There's not as much writing, but a lot more use of Microsoft Project Software.

At least that's what happened when I did it 2 years ago. Not sure whether that's been changed

So i am guessing they have changed the assessment part and perhaps completing a project plan yourself

[huaxiadragon]

So i am guessing they have changed the assessment part and perhaps completing a project plan yourself

Lol no idea, I suppose you will have fun finding out lol

[LOLs99]

Lol no idea, I suppose you will have fun finding out lol

Hmhh, do you actually mind sending me some of the content to have a look?
I am not sure how interesting is that project management subject but I am planning to replace corporate finance
with an easier breadth next year.

[huaxiadragon]

Hmhh, do you actually mind sending me some of the content to have a look?
I am not sure how interesting is that project management subject but I am planning to replace corporate finance
with an easier breadth next year.

Don't have it anymore lol, I did project management more than 2 years ago. And I'm pretty sure I've thrown out the stuff.

And yeah I found project management much easier than corporate finance having done both.

[LOLs99]

Don't have it anymore lol, I did project management more than 2 years ago. And I'm pretty sure I've thrown out the stuff.

And yeah I found project management much easier than corporate finance having done both.

haha it is okay. Thanks for the advice !!

[duhherro]

any tips in finding some suitable extra-curricular or experience for civil ? I've tried looking up at EWB but there isn't enough support/funding to host their more technical projects

[huaxiadragon]

any tips in finding some suitable extra-curricular or experience for civil ? I've tried looking up at EWB but there isn't enough support/funding to host their more technical projects

Contact your local council mate, there's usually a lot of work there. Just cold email them and ask, moreover you can always just randomly email nearby civil engineering companies which you found on yellowpage.

Other than that, try applying for some of the advertised positions on seek, chances are slim but at least you get some practice

[duhherro]

Contact your local council mate, there's usually a lot of work there. Just cold email them and ask, moreover you can always just randomly email nearby civil engineering companies which you found on yellowpage.

Other than that, try applying for some of the advertised positions on seek, chances are slim but at least you get some practice

Yep, I emailed a few asking if there are any vacancies! Do you have experience with council roles? If so, how was teh application process and was it difficult?

[huaxiadragon]

Hey Huaxidragon,
Do you think that doing an Engineering 'with business' degree will mean that I'll miss out on electives that could potentially open up employment opportunities in engineering sectors or do the electives not have much of a significance?
Thanks

Hi mate

From my experience of more than 40-50 job applications and multiple job offers, I would say not doing the electives may very slightly affect your chances. With only a few companies do they actually care about the exact electives you've done.

Generally the actual engineering you learn in University is very different to the engineering you'll be doing in the workplace. At Uni yo might learn subjects across a wide range of area, such as Power, Control, Communications, Signals Processing, Electronics etc. But they only give you a basic grasp of each area, in the industry you will typically spend years working on ONE of those particular areas and acquire an EXTREMELY deep understanding.

From Employer's point of view, as long as you have a basic understanding on the area, and have proven yourself to be a strong learner with excellent soft skills and able to fit in the company, they don't care if you've done a few more subjects. What you learnt will most likely not be applied anyway.

So yeah, that's my two cents, there's a slight affect on your employment opportunities. Though having said that, I always stress that

Engineering Experience > Extracurricular Experience > Subjects you learnt. When employers assess you it's typically 1/3 academic result and specialization, 1/3 extracurricular and 1/3 engineering experience.

So Academic Result only gets you a foot in the door, it's the other stuff that are more important.