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Do you support the legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?

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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 05:39:48 am »
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I fail to see many potential downside from legalising cannabis. It is likely to lead to the formation of a powerful industry. We already have big tobacco, big alcohol, big gambling and big sugar. On the other hand, its lesser relative addictivity and overall harm means I’m less concerned about it. The benefits have been canvassed in other posts.

The argument for criminalisation is that it reduces supply. While it’s likely that the product will be somewhat cheaper post-legalisation (based on overseas experience, perhaps even half-price), cannabis is sufficiently cheap already that I doubt there are very many people who want to get high but can not afford to. I doubt that legalisation would at all lead to significantly heightened usage rates.

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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2018, 10:36:46 pm »
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2018, 10:48:46 pm »
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Okay well, cannabis=marijuanilla and I've heard many stories about it using legitimately for medical use and actually WORKING so if it's helping people, then why the heck would you criminalise it??
illicit drug or not, if its helping people with medical conditions then it should be perfectly legal!
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2018, 11:03:52 pm »
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I'm faulty certain it causes Schizophrenia or is a trigger at least if a dvolomg brain uses it.

I'm all for criminalising it more tbh.
I’ve heard smoking causes lung cancer.

I’ve heard sugar causes diabetes.

Okay well, cannabis=marijuanilla and I've heard many stories about it using legitimately for medical use and actually WORKING so if it's helping people, then why the heck would you criminalise it??
illicit drug or not, if its helping people with medical conditions then it should be perfectly legal!

Medical marijuana is slightly different. I don’t remember how exactly, i think recreational marijuana has more THC (the chemical that causes the high) and medical marijuana has more CBD.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2018, 01:20:37 am »
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Okay well, cannabis=marijuanilla and I've heard many stories about it using legitimately for medical use and actually WORKING so if it's helping people, then why the heck would you criminalise it??
illicit drug or not, if its helping people with medical conditions then it should be perfectly legal!

Big difference from using it when it's needed as a medicine and recreational use.

I don't know why people don't make that distinction, you need a prescription for many types of medication don't you?

Anyway anything smoked isn't healthy for the lungs marijuana or otherwise.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2018, 01:35:15 am »
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I'm faulty certain it causes Schizophrenia or is a trigger at least if a dvolomg brain uses it.

I'm all for criminalising it more tbh.
Entitled to your opinion, but I'm sure you could come up with a better reason than that.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2018, 01:36:44 am »
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Entitled to your opinion, but I'm sure you could come up with a better reason than that.

You need a bigger reason than that? It's not exactly a small mental disorder

Epidemiological studies have found a strong correlation between cannabis use and the risk of psychosis, and found the risk is higher with strains higher in THC
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2018, 02:38:49 pm »
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You need a bigger reason than that? It's not exactly a small mental disorder

Epidemiological studies have found a strong correlation between cannabis use and the risk of psychosis, and found the risk is higher with strains higher in THC

Studies regarding the possible link between marijuana use and schizophrenia have actually presented conflicting and uncertain results.

However, even if there is a correlation, studies have shown that it is very small. For example, the research of Radhakrishnan et al. suggests that only heavy marijuana users are slightly more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia.

It's also important to note that contrary to what governments may say, there is no convincing evidence that marijuana actually causes brain damage; e.g. Hall & Degenhardt (2014). In fact, some studies have even found that marijuana may have neuroprotective effects - e.g. Nguyen and colleagues (2014).
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2018, 02:45:22 pm »
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I find this an extremely difficult topic to choose a side on.

Personally, I would not support it for recreational use. No matter how people try and justify it, cannabis/marijuana is still a potentially harmful substance. Especially if studies are conflicting, who's to say which side is correct in their assumptions? Even if it does not kill people, there is still the potential of damage being done. No matter how minor the risks, there are still people out there who could be affected negatively, or become addicted, even if there is a low chance. Increased risk of lung cancer? What about pregnant women?
I believe it would be better to support the medical use, and I would probably decriminalise it because that inhibits the actions of drug dealers and the black market, but I would not be inclined to encourage its distribution to the wider population as a recreational substance.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2018, 03:05:24 pm »
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If you don't support support legalisation but think that cigarettes, fast food and alcohol are ok, then you are a hypocrite.

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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2018, 03:12:49 pm »
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If you don't support support legalisation but think that cigarettes, fast food and alcohol are ok, then you are a hypocrite.
Hi dankfrank420,
Who was this message directed to? Why do you think this? What about these things you have listed makes a person a hypocrite for not agreeing with the use of cannabis? If you make a statement, please make sure that you have arguments that can back it up and will contribute to the discussion. Thanks. :)
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2018, 03:22:25 pm »
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Hi dankfrank420,
Who was this message directed to? Why do you think this? What about these things you have listed makes a person a hypocrite for not agreeing with the use of cannabis? If you make a statement, please make sure that you have arguments that can back it up and will contribute to the discussion. Thanks. :)
I believe they're probably referring to the fact that cigarettes are known to cause lung cancer and many other health issues and alcohol causes the largest amount of deaths out of all legal and illegal drugs - I would imagine they're saying that these substances are legal yet have been shown to cause harm (not only to the user, but to the community too) whilst the recreational use of marijuana is illegal.

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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2018, 03:25:48 pm »
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If you don't support support legalisation but think that cigarettes, fast food and alcohol are ok, then you are a hypocrite.
No, no no. I've heard that stance before. Are you really going to compare fast food and alcohol to hard drugs?

Cigarettes,  fast food  and alcohol... they take years off your life, but no... they don't have that sort of instant impact. Drugs are another class of substances which will screw you over in many ways... worse than alcohol and the others.

Drugs are a different sort of beast ^^.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2018, 03:29:28 pm »
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If you legalise cannabis, then impressionable young people will begin to think that drugs are OK because they are legal. They are not OK. They can be severely damaging, and should be cracked down on even more than they are, imo. Similarly I think we should ban cigarettes, and phase out alcohol, but many will disagree with me. I don't have a problem with fast food though, but in moderation.
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Re: Legalisation of Cannabis for recreational use?
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2018, 03:35:17 pm »
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If you legalise cannabis, then impressionable young people will begin to think that drugs are OK because they are legal. They are not OK. They can be severely  Damaging

This has been proven wrong =). In fact the opposite is shown to be true. The more you ban it, the more people will try to get their hands on it (as it is THAT mysterious).

Studies in the US (some states), Europe and other parts of the world show that legalisation of Cannabis and other drugs actually results in lower amounts of usage and deaths.  Refer to this post (and the embedded links) :D
https://atarnotes.com/forum/index.php?topic=176254.msg1015035#msg1015035

- Far fewer arrests for minor drug offenses occur.
- The country has 3 overdose deaths per million citizens, compared to the EU average of 17.3
- Lighter enforcement did not lead to more drug use. About 25.7 percent of Dutch citizens reported having used marijuana at least once, which is on par with the European average. In the comparatively strict United Kingdom, the rate is 30.2 percent and in the United States it is a whopping 41.9 percent.
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