UniMelb BSc or Monash BSc Scholar Program

[TrueLight]

"Bachelor -> Masters or Bachelor -> Honours -> PhD"

you dont go from masters> honours
it would be masters>phD

[m@tty]

I read it as:

"Bachelor -> Masters"
 or
"Bachelor -> Honours -> PhD"

[TrueLight]

ah ok if its like that then i read it the wrong way

[acinod]

...even if you are considering a masters after it?

I was talking about bachelor>honours>masters>PhD

Is really saving one years time worth skipping honours?

[TrueLight]

(im talking about my experience from monash)
from what i know the majority of people do honours (if u go down the further study pathway)
the only time people go from bachelors to masters is if u dont get the marks for honours and so there is this preliminary masters of science or part 1 biomed (which is basically exactly like honours although i think some of the assessments are slightly different and u dont get a degree at the end of that year) which you can then finish off the masters the next year and then if you want you can embark on a phd or just finish with honours

but if you can they do recommend doing honours and then phd

not sure if that answered ur question...
 

[acinod]

not sure if that answered ur question...
 

My apologies, I will remember to be more exact in my posts next time.

From what has been posted, I am advised that I only have two pathways. Bachelor with Honours into PhD or Bachelor (no Honours) into Masters.

Wouldn't it be recommended that, if I am capable, to finish a Bachelor of Science with Honours, then complete a Masters degree, followed by a PhD. Or is doing both Honours and Masters unnecessary?

[TrueLight]

if you want to go straight to phd a masters is unnecessary
but you can't really go straight into masters after finishing bachelors, you do this kinda "bridging" diploma which is very similar to honours which you can then go further and do masters or if your really good a phd.
now some people for whatever reason may choose to do an honours and then a masters and thats it. but the main pathway people will choose is an honours straight out from bachelors because you'll have to find a supervisor that will accept those people who do masters preliminary, so if you have the marks your told to do honours

[Russ]

If you want to do a phd, do honours because it's faster/easier. Masters (by thesis) is an option but it's longer/harder so there's no reason to go that pathway unless you need the degree for a particular job.

You can work all this out once you've actually started your bachelors though

[acinod]

Anyone have any idea what the 'MTH1000: Special topics in mathematics level one' (http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2011handbooks/units/MTH1000.html) is at Monash?

Apparently it is only for students in the Science Scholar Program.

I am very intrigued  

[rustic_metal]

Anyone have any idea what the 'MTH1000: Special topics in mathematics level one' (http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2011handbooks/units/MTH1000.html) is at Monash?

Apparently it is only for students in the Science Scholar Program.

I am very intrigued  

It says right there on the page:

Synopsis
A series of mathematical topics chosen from a range of areas of pure and applied mathematics and mathematical statistics, including dynamics, chaos, computing algorithm design, mathematical modelling, number theory, logic, algebra, operation research and applied linear algebra. For example, applied linear algebra topics may include several important applications of eigenanalysis, including image compression, face recognition and understanding how Google's Page Rank search algorithm works.

It looks like it's just a bunch of samples from different fields with no real direction or compounding knowledge coming from it. Like a difficult version of those year 10 master classes. Probably a complete waste of time.

[jadams]

Thought a revival of this thread may be beneficial, as I can't possibly be the only student in this position. Has the general consensus changed at all regarding UniMelb BSc vs Monash BSc Scholar Program? Is a scholarship included guaranteed with the scholar program?