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 *a study in the Uni of California claimed to show that each execution prevented 8 deaths from occurring
     someone told me 43 people died in the UK one year with because of double parking

       but the qs are hypothetical

 
         
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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 03:17:03 pm »
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While sometimes you read about those criminals 'caught in the act' of disgusting and horrific crimes and wish someone would kill them, the thought of innocent people being executed (which there have been already) is too awful to imagine. No to capital punishment, let the guility rot in jail (with taxpayers money :/)

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 03:32:34 pm »
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 If I "wished" someone would die, that wouldn't be a good reason support it. What might sway me would saving the 8 innocent lives. 8 >1,
  so I would have to decide:  1) In which [theoretical] circumstances I take the deontological [absolute morality] view                               
                                        2) How valuable is the "slippery slope" argument?

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 03:36:15 pm »
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I said no because I have always been against capital punishment:

1) two wrongs don't make a right
2) letting them rot in jail is a worse punishment then putting them out of their misery
3) how far should we go? can someone say to me that I should be executed because I'm a terrible driver and will probably one day kill someone with said terrible driving?
(is this the 'slippery slope' argument?)
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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 03:46:21 pm »
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I said no because I have always been against capital punishment:

1) two wrongs don't make a right
2) letting them rot in jail is a worse punishment then putting them out of their misery
3) how far should we go? can someone say to me that I should be executed because I'm a terrible driver and will probably one day kill someone with said terrible driving?
(is this the 'slippery slope' argument?)

 3) Yes if you're driving downhill at a gradient steeper than 1/20 and there's oil on the road....
 
     no, it's that the level of govt control would become inexorably more and more undesirable, possibly for everyone except the govt as in a couple of quite famous books.
     
   you didn't acknowledge the 8 people who's lives would be spared; I've been steadfastly against CP but in these scenarios, [which might be real in some places] I'm not sure. As I say, I'd need a convincing and relevant rendition of the slippery slope argument to return me to my original stance.
     

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 01:30:45 pm »
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Just chuck them on a desert island and let them fend for themselves, I say. We don't kill them, and we don't have to pay for them.

(somewhat sarcastic, but we shouldn't be paying for them)

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 02:53:18 pm »
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Can someone just explain how executing someone saves 8 lives? :S

Oh I'm confused.

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 03:06:58 pm »
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Can someone just explain how executing someone saves 8 lives? :S

Oh I'm confused.

Some 'scientific' study, I guess.
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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 03:26:53 pm »
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Can someone just explain how executing someone saves 8 lives? :S

Oh I'm confused.

 the q in the poll is hypothetical
 
 However, if the study [which I read about in The Armchair Economist] is correct, each exectution served as a severe deterrent to potential murderers commiting the act, even in potential cases of hot-blooded murder. 
 

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 03:30:45 pm »
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Oh ok, I get it.
Interesting.

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 04:07:21 pm »
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Personally I think instead of killing them, let them work and do something good for the community. A dead body is no use to anyone.

I also read somewhere that two murderers were sentenced to community service instead of execution, and ended up teaching disabled kids and eventually opened their own school for the disadvantaged.

Two sides of a coin I guess.

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 04:17:00 pm »
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When you claim the life of another, you forfeit your right to live freely with others.

You should never, however, forfeit your right to life.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and pretty soon the whole world is blind and toothless.

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 04:53:38 pm »
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A large proportion of criminals who have committed heinous offenses have neurological/psychiatric conditions.

We need to improve our mental health facilities and services to prevent these crimes from occurring in the first place, by ensuring these individuals are identified, tracked and treated.

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 05:01:36 pm »
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When you claim the life of another, you forfeit your right to live freely with others.

You should never, however, forfeit your right to life.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and pretty soon the whole world is blind and toothless.

 answer *my* question fgs

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Re: Should capital punishment be in force in the following circustances?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 05:20:37 pm »
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Your question is incoherent. I seriously don't understand what you're trying to ask. Make it make sense plz.