How is do-gooding best accomplished?

[Collin Li]

Here are my thoughts:

You don't only do good for the world by donating and asking others to donate. Bill Gates arguably did more for the world by creating Microsoft, and generating millions of jobs, rather than through philanthropy.

However, people underestimate the insight of Adam Smith, who argued that individuals are guided by an invisible hand to promote the interests of others by merely concerning themselves with their own interests. This is because, in countries with law and order, and a lack of theft and corruption, the only way you can further your own well-being is through cooperation and trade with others, which in turn benefits others.

(In response to a debate about whether Bono's deeds or Bill Gates' charity is more valuable for the world.)

[SoLe!]

Depends on what the company is achieving...would you say that the Burj Dubai is benefiting society in some way? No, its merely a monumental building that rich people will buy apartments in. The workforce behind this behemoth is being played on slave wages (something like $80 a month, 8-7 each day). I guess this isnt really answering your question, but its mah roundabout way of saying i disagree. Also those facts are probably wrong, but the real ones are very similar. The article was in either the sunday or saturday age.

[brendan]

By first restricting the amount of do-badding.

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do-gooding is achieved through giving back more than what is taken.

[Collin Li]

do-gooding is achieved through giving back more than what is taken.

What if you didn't take anything? You created it, instead, for example...

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do-gooding is achieved through giving back more than what is taken.

What if you didn't take anything? You created it, instead, for example...

Same principle applies; give back more than what you have created. Example, build a play house with two blocks of wood. Instead plant two trees to recover the losses.

But the main element of being a do-gooder in my opinion is to use the power that is given to benefit society as a whole in a positive manner. This, as noted before, could be seen with bill gates. He has lot's of power and enormous amount of money but he does commit to philanthropy and other such services. Someone who can use any power that they have to benefit everyone, in my opinion, is someone who is a do-gooder.

[Collin Li]

But don't you believe that someone who got so rich (legitimately) deserves his or her wealth, and should be entitled to do whatever they like with it?

To get to where they are, they needed to benefit people to get there anyway. They had to sell goods, services and employ people via mutually beneficial trades. They got there by helping people all along the way. So why would they need to do anymore good? Couldn't you say such an entrepreneur is already a do-gooder for getting that far?

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But don't you believe that someone who got so rich (legitimately) deserves his or her wealth, and should be entitled to do whatever they like with it?

To get to where they are, they needed to benefit people to get there anyway. They had to sell goods, services and employ people via mutually beneficial trades. They got there by helping people all along the way. So why would they need to do anymore good? Couldn't you say such an entrepreneur is already a do-gooder for getting that far?

yes and no.

If you earn something legitmatiely then yes you're entitled to it. But what good does that serve. That's not do-gooding, i don't believe that's necerally fair either. If you take something and give nothing back of more value than were's the good there?

And that is true also. in order to get there they need to benefit from someone. but then again, others should benefit from them also in turn even more so with the same principle applying. You should be of use within society in a riotous way.

Also no, an entrepreneur who got that far is not a do-gooder but rather a successful individual. It does not make them bad or good. However in order to do good the entrepreneur must give and return all the recourses he/she used to get that far so another can do the same.

[Collin Li]

But by becoming rich, you don't only take from others. You engage in voluntary transactions where the other party gains too. So you've given and taken simultaneously on your path there.

[brendan]

give back more than what you have created.

Why say "give back" rather than just "give"? "Give back" implies you've taken something.

[bubble sunglasses]

 creating something which people are enriched by

[brendan]

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