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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 12:33:48 pm »
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Look, I'll return them when I feel like it ok!!!! geez


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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 02:14:30 pm »
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CALL THE COPS AND BUST DOWN HIS FRONT DOOR AND GET YOUR NOTES BACK!!!!

btw.... i'm being sarcastic here.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 03:59:20 pm »
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You really can't trust anyone(including friends) in year 12, if it has anything to do with their studies and getting ahead. >:(  From my experience anyway.

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 04:54:03 pm »
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i say fuck the notes and make new ones if you really love the subject or go buy books on the subject; afterall they're only notes... and it's only VCE. Life goes on. Feel the fresh air as is swoops past your hair.

But i must say that they are your notes and if you REALLY feel that passionate about them then try get them back.



It her notes, she has every right to have them back when she wants. Are you trying to justify theft?

although i don't really advocate what you're saying here excal. I mean it's not really theft if caramel gave them to that person without actually knowing where they live or who they are, I say that's a stupid thing to do. If you knew that they don't even know were you live, you wouldn't give out "special" notes.

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 05:31:39 pm »
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I can't imagine why this is such a huge deal.

Like, yes of course caramel should get the right to retain her notes, but they are just notes for a subject that she no longer does and hasn't done for a year- is it really that essential to get them back right now? All involved (on both sides) don't seem to be handling the matter with a whole lot of tact or maturity. Yes, the borrower should give them back when caramel requests them to be given back- but why does she need them now? Unless variables such as a sibling/best friend/etc etc needing these notes come into play I just dont understand the urgency and thus need for name dropping. The rant was perfectly warranted, but name dropping is so immature and primary school.

This all seems a bit about forum politics more than anything else.


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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2008, 05:35:06 pm »
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I can't imagine why this is such a huge deal.

Like, yes of course caramel should get the right to retain her notes, but they are just notes for a subject that she no longer does and hasn't done for a year- is it really that essential to get them back right now? All involved (on both sides) don't seem to be handling the matter with a whole lot of tact or maturity. Yes, the borrower should give them back when caramel requests them to be given back- but why does she need them now? Unless variables such as a sibling/best friend/etc etc needing these notes come into play I just dont understand the urgency and thus need for name dropping. The rant was perfectly warranted, but name dropping is so immature and primary school.

This all seems a bit about forum politics more than anything else.


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I think the first post has already outlined hostile behaviour from the borrower, which validates her concerns.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2008, 05:39:26 pm »
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I lol'd

here's a few things that have been conveniently left out

- I have promised [on several occasions] that I will return them, except I am currently in my exams period, and I leave for china pretty much AS SOON AS exams finish, so it'll be an unnecessary burden on me to have to rush around to return the notes
- I have been accused of being a thief, a bastard, a dipshit, and a cunt. It is my understanding that when you want someone else to do something, a little respect is given?
- This is AFTER the events of last night [or was it the night before] when I explained to her that I intended to return things to her ASAP, and had she not been a haggering nagging <expletive>, i would have been more than happy to go out of my way to return it to her
- This is AFTER about a month of no contact, immediately afterwards I was accused of not returning it [and withholding without intention of returning it...? see first point] when I had no prior knowledge of her wanting her notes back immediately, which I easily could have done when MUEP classes were still on
- The PMs immediately prior to the one which I was quoted in [earlier in the thread, and without permission, mind you... code of conduct?] received by me was abrupt and included calling me a "dipshit"... I believe any sensible person would choose to not reveal address to those kind of messages

to clarify a few more things:
- caramel is in first year uni, and afaik she no longer undertake any linguistic studies
- the notebook was lent originally with "take as long as you like", and at that point I have promised "I'll return after exams" [which I still am intending to]
- the reason this conflict is in place is because I have not given a set date by which the book will be returned. the closest post office takes me at least an hour to get to [one way], car transport is also out of the option.

so guilt-trip me all you like, I am doing what I am capable of in light of higher priorities. So really, what's all the fretting about?

oh, and, yes, it is perfectly within her rights to ask for it back, and for the nth time, i will return it.
but when i get harrassed about it every day, i tend to ignore it and not respond, and I'm sure that's understandable.

oops, said too much.
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Re: rant - trusting people is shit
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2008, 05:43:12 pm »
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I can't imagine why this is such a huge deal.

Like, yes of course caramel should get the right to retain her notes, but they are just notes for a subject that she no longer does and hasn't done for a year- is it really that essential to get them back right now? All involved (on both sides) don't seem to be handling the matter with a whole lot of tact or maturity. Yes, the borrower should give them back when caramel requests them to be given back- but why does she need them now? Unless variables such as a sibling/best friend/etc etc needing these notes come into play I just dont understand the urgency and thus need for name dropping. The rant was perfectly warranted, but name dropping is so immature and primary school.

This all seems a bit about forum politics more than anything else.


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I think the first post has already outlined hostile behaviour from the borrower, which validates her concerns.

yes coblin. I am indeed hostile [to the max]

please smite me with your rationality and higher intelligence. I beg it.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2008, 05:46:16 pm »
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- I have promised [on several occasions] that I will return them, except I am currently in my exams period, and I leave for china pretty much AS SOON AS exams finish, so it'll be an unnecessary burden on me to have to rush around to return the notes

Oh, so it's all about you is it?

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- I have been accused of being a thief, a bastard, a dipshit, and a cunt. It is my understanding that when you want someone else to do something, a little respect is given?

Oh please, nobody would have called you that until you resisted to giving the book back.

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- This is AFTER the events of last night [or was it the night before] when I explained to her that I intended to return things to her ASAP, and had she not been a haggering nagging <expletive>, i would have been more than happy to go out of my way to return it to her

ASAP is not after you go on a holiday to China. You're on IRC a lot of the time, you're writing exam solutions for people, and you're still too busy? How self-righteous.

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- caramel is in first year uni, and afaik she no longer undertake any linguistic studies

Irrelevant. It's none of your business what she wishes to do with her own property.

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so guilt-trip me all you like, I am doing what I am capable of in light of higher priorities. So really, what's all the fretting about?

Higher priorities, being ones that serve yourself mainly, and disregarding other people's property rights.

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oh, and, yes, it is perfectly within her rights to ask for it back, and for the nth time, i will return it.
but when i get harrassed about it every day, i tend to ignore it and not respond, and I'm sure that's understandable.

I guess, but I wouldn't really call 'shit all you can do about it' as ignoring. That's hostile mate, to answer your latest post.
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2008, 06:03:26 pm »
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- I have promised [on several occasions] that I will return them, except I am currently in my exams period, and I leave for china pretty much AS SOON AS exams finish, so it'll be an unnecessary burden on me to have to rush around to return the notes

Oh, so it's all about you is it?

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- I have been accused of being a thief, a bastard, a dipshit, and a cunt. It is my understanding that when you want someone else to do something, a little respect is given?

Oh please, nobody would have called you that until you resisted to giving the book back.

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- This is AFTER the events of last night [or was it the night before] when I explained to her that I intended to return things to her ASAP, and had she not been a haggering nagging <expletive>, i would have been more than happy to go out of my way to return it to her

ASAP is not after you go on a holiday to China. You're on IRC a lot of the time, you're writing exam solutions for people, and you're still too busy? How self-righteous.

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- caramel is in first year uni, and afaik she no longer undertake any linguistic studies

Irrelevant. It's none of your business what she wishes to do with her own property.

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so guilt-trip me all you like, I am doing what I am capable of in light of higher priorities. So really, what's all the fretting about?

Higher priorities, being ones that serve yourself mainly, and disregarding other people's property rights.

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oh, and, yes, it is perfectly within her rights to ask for it back, and for the nth time, i will return it.
but when i get harrassed about it every day, i tend to ignore it and not respond, and I'm sure that's understandable.

I guess, but I wouldn't really call 'shit all you can do about it' as ignoring. That's hostile mate, to answer your latest post.

Exactly Collin. In my view, if it's Mel's property, she has the right to have it back when ever she wants. She produced it, and thus holds the rights to it. It's not your business if she's in 1st year uni or last year uni.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2008, 06:04:18 pm »
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because of higher priorities, I will only address the last point. [the answer to previous points can be found in previous posts, if you are objective enough to see them]

that "shit all you can do about it" reference is the funniest thing about the whole issue, and was completely blown out of nature as I'd assume it would be. the convenience to you guys is that the previous line was completely ignored, which was "if I really wanted to keep it"
when clearly, i have already promised many times [and again] that I will return it.
I thought saying that would at least bring some reality into her and keep her quiet a little bit so I can say what I needed to say, but apparently that invited nothing but "reaction to seeming hostility". Next time I will seek better ways to knock sense into people.
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2008, 06:11:31 pm »
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judge judy desperately needed itt.

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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2008, 06:12:33 pm »
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Is it that inconvinient to go to the post office and send it off in the mail?

This whole thing is stupud.

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2008, 06:12:43 pm »
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because of higher priorities, I will only address the last point. [the answer to previous points can be found in previous posts, if you are objective enough to see them]

that "shit all you can do about it" reference is the funniest thing about the whole issue, and was completely blown out of nature as I'd assume it would be. the convenience to you guys is that the previous line was completely ignored, which was "if I really wanted to keep it"
when clearly, i have already promised many times [and again] that I will return it.
I thought saying that would at least bring some reality into her and keep her quiet a little bit so I can say what I needed to say, but apparently that invited nothing but "reaction to seeming hostility". Next time I will seek better ways to knock sense into people.

clearly you're the one who needs some sense knocked into you. how wud that make her quiet a little bit?
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- caramel is in first year uni, and afaik she no longer undertake any linguistic studies

Irrelevant. It's none of your business what she wishes to do with her own property.

For example: She might be looking at tutoring the subject next year and thus in need of her notes.
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