Post by: elysepopplewell on August 02, 2017, 12:34:29 pm
We had a few people trying to predict questions in advance - do you think this paid off?
How did you go with your time management? In which order did you do the paper?
Importantly, do you think you'd change your study methods prior to the exam for HSC or were you really happy with how you prepared for this one?
Papers were required to be held until today (Thursday 17th) so we can now chat about the questions and the approaches we took. However, please do not share copies of the exam or anything similar!
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 12:48:09 pm
Post by: georgiia on August 02, 2017, 12:50:01 pm
The paper wasn't too bad honestly. I just think the short answer questions might have been a little iffy, especially since the 7 marker kind of benefit people who did a certain contemporary issue
Yeah I agree about the 7marker, but otherwise it was pretty ok
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 02, 2017, 01:00:59 pm
Did you all think you prepared well?
Post by: JD99 on August 02, 2017, 01:01:56 pm
Did anyone else struggle with a couple of the MC questions?? I went thru at the end and changed a couple of my answers...i hope it pays off coz usually when I change they end up being wrong anyways.... :(
Post by: JD99 on August 02, 2017, 01:02:58 pm
In my opinion, the Crime question was a blessing, but I would have had to think carefully about the short answers!
Did you all think you prepared well?
Yes it was!!
No.....i felt like most of the things i had prepared for weren't in there... :(
Hopefully they are in the HSC :)
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 01:17:15 pm
Post by: fantasticbeasts3 on August 02, 2017, 01:18:40 pm
Post by: oliviamarie on August 02, 2017, 01:29:42 pm
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 02, 2017, 01:30:38 pm
I owe my life to these forums for correctly predicting the crime and family option essay qs. Did a practice essay on them yesterday.
I'm so glad :')
Post by: maria1999 on August 02, 2017, 02:34:18 pm
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 03:24:06 pm
Yeah I agree about the 7marker, but otherwise it was pretty ok
The seven marker was iffy. I didn't discuss the seven marker in relation to a contemporary issue, did we have to? I think I might've misread.
I knew going on that multiple choice was my weakest area. For past papers, it'd always be an area where I struggled and as the exam came, i would simply do past papers for the multiple choice.
I walked out and I know a got a couple wrong already but I do rush the multiple choice and don't put enough thought into it so, D: Besides that, and the seven marker, everything else went fairly well. I could've done better but oh well.
Essays went pretty well for me. Hopefully I maintain rank :S Glad it's over though.
Post by: lucyjayne on August 02, 2017, 04:15:25 pm
Post by: ~BK~ on August 02, 2017, 04:32:05 pm
there was so many i didn't know and a lot were really specific... :-[
overall, it was a bit of a struggle.... ???
Post by: Primallis on August 02, 2017, 04:53:28 pm
The seven marker was iffy. I didn't discuss the seven marker in relation to a contemporary issue, did we have to? I think I might've misread.
No it just said with reference to the above extract and provide examples. It didn't explicitly state a contemporary issue so you would be fine to do so without the address of a contemporary issue. In the past HSC questions (2013 for example) there was a generic question like that.
Post by: Primallis on August 02, 2017, 04:57:33 pm
The only major problem was the Multiple Choice. I felt like it went from 1 to 100 really quickly. It got very specific in some cases but then again broad in the other. I felt it wasn't overall bad but there was some that were a bit of a problem that you just had to pick.
Post by: mitchello on August 02, 2017, 06:23:59 pm
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 06:42:11 pm
Ahhh I better not say anything, just to follow the guidelines. Was your paper today?
If your short answers had a 3, 5 and 7 marker, then chances are you did the CSSA paper
Post by: georgiia on August 02, 2017, 06:55:33 pm
In regards to the exam, I found the Short Answer was quite good if you knew the content. The 1st question would've stumped a lot of people if they didn't know and the 7 marker you had to think more broadly about Australia's HR as a whole. Crime question was awesome, loved it. The second World Order question was useless in my opinion but the first was quite good!Lol I was stuck doing the 2nd world order one because I didn't have enough knowledge to do the first
The only major problem was the Multiple Choice. I felt like it went from 1 to 100 really quickly. It got very specific in some cases but then again broad in the other. I felt it wasn't overall bad but there was some that were a bit of a problem that you just had to pick.
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 08:12:18 pm
When can we start talking openly about the exam? I'd like to send in my response, which i've typed up as closely as possible to how I did in the exam
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 08:13:42 pm
I'm seriously starting to doubt whether or not it was a good decision to mention my contemporary issue in that 7 marker... Just to clarify, I didn't explicitly say 'human trafficking and slavery', but I did say that their ratification of international treaties allow for them to uphold human rights.
When can we start talking openly about the exam? I'd like to send in my response, which i've typed up as closely as possible to how I did in the exam
I misinterpreted that question hard. Max I can get is four, and that's a stretch.
I feel bummed out.
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 08:15:19 pm
I misinterpreted that question hard. Max I can get is four, and that's a stretch.
I feel bummed out.
What do you think you did wrong? I honestly don't think what I did was right either, mainly because I seem to be the only person who answered it that way...
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 08:20:32 pm
What do you think you did wrong? I honestly don't think what I did was right either, mainly because I seem to be the only person who answered it that way...
Firstly, I only talked about Australian law as a hindrance and I didn't mention any contemporary issue. I thought it was in reference to refugees only, so I talked about Australia breaking the humanitarian trend the EU has created by their acceptance of refugees on the premise of 'right to seek asylum' but is within their rights due to state sovereignty, which is also expressed throughout the United Nations.
Post by: Anfar3 on August 02, 2017, 08:26:25 pm
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 08:27:47 pm
I pretty much only wrote about my contemp issue - asylum seekers and refugees. Am i limited in gaining 6-7 out of 7?
Nah, you seem to have got the hint.
However, other than my little blunder with the seven marker and a handful of dodgy MC, I think I did fairly well for the rest - just hoping to maintain rank or remain top five by the end of it.
Post by: Anfar3 on August 02, 2017, 08:30:53 pm
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 08:33:47 pm
Can u honestly pm me some of the mcq answers i got so many dodgy answers like wtf was q20
I don't remember what the question was. Feel free to PM and I can give you what I said and why?
I pretty much only wrote about my contemp issue - asylum seekers and refugees. Am i limited in gaining 6-7 out of 7?
Yeah i'm pretty sure the question was heavily geared towards people who studied that issue. I don't think you would be limited, as long as you linked it back to the actual question - remember it wasn't actually asking about contemporary issues
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 08:50:28 pm
Post by: Bubbly_bluey on August 02, 2017, 08:57:35 pm
I don't remember what the question was. Feel free to PM and I can give you what I said and why?Can u PM q20 i forgot what it was
Yeah i'm pretty sure the question was heavily geared towards people who studied that issue. I don't think you would be limited, as long as you linked it back to the actual question - remember it wasn't actually asking about contemporary issues
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 09:09:52 pm
Rodero, bearing in mind how I responded to it, what do you think?
In all honesty I feel like that's how we were supposed to answer the question. The only reason I used my knowledge of the contemporary issues was simply because I didn't know the content that you stated. Don't count me on this, but I'd say that you would score higher than you expect - you seem to know content that's relevant to that specific issue.
Mainly I talked about how they are denying peace rights - their right to be free from war or oppression. But then I used the Coalition part of the quote and said how Australia is not limited to merely passing laws on refugees, but they can also protect rights such as the right that 'no one shall be held in slavery or servitude' (UDHR Art 4). I then went into Australian measures to protect that right... Again, not sure if this is even correct but I interpreted the question in a broader sense, simply because I didn't actually know specific content
Post by: Wales on August 02, 2017, 09:18:08 pm
In all honesty I feel like that's how we were supposed to answer the question. The only reason I used my knowledge of the contemporary issues was simply because I didn't know the content that you stated. Don't count me on this, but I'd say that you would score higher than you expect - you seem to know content that's relevant to that specific issue.
Mainly I talked about how they are denying peace rights - their right to be free from war or oppression. But then I used the Coalition part of the quote and said how Australia is not limited to merely passing laws on refugees, but they can also protect rights such as the right that 'no one shall be held in slavery or servitude' (UDHR Art 4). I then went into Australian measures to protect that right... Again, not sure if this is even correct but I interpreted the question in a broader sense, simply because I didn't actually know specific content
I didn't even mention my contemporary issue in that. It didn't seem relevant at all. I did Child Solidiers as my contemporary issue so I suppose that's why?
Crime question was basically identical to the one I received in my term 1 exam. It was the one Jamon predicted word for word :P
Panicked a bit in Shelter and wasn't able to cite many laws properly but hopefully they won't mark me down too much for that.
Overall I think I did alright :D
Post by: abachmid on August 02, 2017, 09:19:35 pm
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 09:25:41 pm
what did everyone write in regards to the first short answer question?
I got caught completely off guard here. I couldn't think of anything here so I just wrote about Australia's ratification of the UDHR, ICESCR and ICCPR, and how Australia passes legislation to reflect the human right. In hindsight I know that the inclusion of the right to the Australian Constitution is key for this question
Post by: TheFreeMarketeer on August 02, 2017, 09:26:48 pm
I got caught completely off guard here. I couldn't think of anything here so I just wrote about Australia's ratification of the UDHR, ICESCR and ICCPR, and how Australia passes legislation to reflect the human right. In hindsight I know that the inclusion of the right to the Australian Constitution is key for this question
I mentioned the Australian Constitution but began rambling about Australia's secularism....
Note, I forgot to mention the ratification of the UDHR, ICESCR and ICCPR simply because when I saw the question I knew that secularism was one way and that our Constitution had stated that particular right explicitly.
Post by: rodero on August 02, 2017, 09:34:25 pm
I mentioned the Australian Constitution but began rambling about Australia's secularism....
Note, I forgot to mention the ratification of the UDHR, ICESCR and ICCPR simply because when I saw the question I knew that secularism was one way and that our Constitution had stated that particular right explicitly.
Looks like a bit of SOR got into your head
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 02, 2017, 10:42:07 pm
Quick note, I'm seeing a few posts here that are borderline in terms of giving questions away, please be careful! We might delete stuff and then restore it once the security period has lapsed if we see the need :)
Post by: lauracabezas on August 03, 2017, 08:43:37 pm
Post by: rodero on August 03, 2017, 09:05:16 pm
im so confused lol i dont wanna like say anything im not meant to but my 7 marker for human rights wasnt on a contemporary issue?? it was about... something else but i did the cssa paper which is weird. the paper kind of killed me :( i wasnt prepared
Okay just to clarify, the question wasn't on a contemporary issue. It's just that since I didn't know the content for the question at hand, I tried bending the question a bit to suit my needs. That is, I used evidence from my study of human trafficking and slavery to answer something that's only slightly related
Edit: On that note, some people who studied that certain contemporary issue would have benefit much more, which is kind of unfair I guess