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Title: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on November 16, 2016, 11:04:50 am
This resource is under construction.
One of the most enduring questions in Area of Study: What's a good related text?
If you aren't quite sure what constitutes a great related text, then check out our guide to picking a related text here - we've answered a lot of frequently asked questions, too!

So below we've compiled a list of over 50 related texts that have been tried and tested. All of these related texts have been brought forward by students - except for a few that I have viewed/read myself and thought it would be perfect for discovery. Where possible, we've attached a brief synopsis so you can get an idea about whether or not you'll like the text. We've also attached some helpful links from the web to help you get on your way to studying the text. Just click on the tabs below to open up the resources. We've organised them into media type, in case you have a preference!

If you have a related text that you'd like to add to the list, we'd love for you to comment the name, what you thought of it, and even any helpful links. We want to create this resource in a way that makes it uber helpful to current and future students, and student input is the best way we can achieve that.

Short Stories:
Spoiler
Tim Winton’s Distant lands
Where can it be found?
You can pick up Distant Lands in Tim Winton's anthology of short stories, Minimum of Two. I got it for about $15 at my local book store, and it's available on iBooks and probably at most local or school libraries. Tim Winton is a well known Australian author, so it's usually not too hard to track down his work.
Brief synopsis
in Distant Lands, a girl named Fat Maz works in her parent's news-agency in what appears to be a dull and non-stimulating country environment. Her days are bland, her father is a racist, her mother is a bore. They go home in the lunch hour, but Fat Maz stays to watch the shop. A Pakistani man enters the shop in that lunch hour to read a book called Distant Lands. He never buys it, but puts it back after the hour and leaves before Fat Maz's parents return. They never talk. *Spoiler alert* Until the end, when he gives her a $50 note (that has more significance back then than what it does now). The money is symbolic of new perspectives, and the book "Distant Lands" is a motif as well.
Ideas explored
-Discovering new perspectives
-Discovering new worlds
-A change in environment being a catalyst for discovery
-Emotional, intellectual and physical discoveries.
-Transformative discoveries.
-Many more
Resources
You can read my band 6 essay for AOS using Distant Lands here.

Tim Winton’s Neighbours
Where can you find it?
This TIm Winton short story can be found in the short story anthology called Scission. Most book stores sell this for about $15, and it is available on iBooks. Most libraries will have Tim Winton's work. Here's a copy I found on the web.
Synopsis
A young married couple move into a street that has a high population of Europeans (Italians, Maltese, Polish etc). The couple are hesitant at first and appear to be complete outsiders. In time, they realise how helpful and kind these people are, and they realise that they are all just humans. The cultures melt together in a really beautiful way.
Ideas explored
-Discovering new perspectives
-Outlooks and perspectives being challenged
-Discovering intellectually, and emotionally.
-Renewed perceptions leading to new outlooks.
-Transformative nature of discovery
-+more
Resources
Here's a summary I found online that might give you some helpful language. By the same author, here's a character analysis!

Kate Chopin’s The Story of an Hour
Where can I find it?
Riiiiiiight here!
Synopsis
This story was originally published in Vogue in the 1894. It is about a sickly wife with a heart condition. She's told that her husband has died, causing her to grieve heavily and then imagine an entire new life of freedom for herself. With acknowledgement to the sadness her husband's death brings, she's caught up in the positive ramifications this could have. *Spoiler alert* She comes to terms with this very new positive life very quickly, although she loved her husband, she loved the prospect of freedom. She leaves her bedroom after grieving, and goes downstairs to realise her husband is still alive. She gets such a shock that she dies.
Ideas explored
-Discovery that is emotional, creative, physical, spiritual and intellectual.
-Discovering new perspectives.
-Tragedy as a prompt for discovery
-Transformative nature of discovery
-Unplanned/planned nature of discovery
Resources
There are some wonderful resources out there on this short story, starting with Schmoop. Schmoop is always a great place to start because they take you from summary to analysis. SparkNotes does something similar here as well! Here's another more random resource that's worth checking out! Here's a link to a location with a bunch of essays on this short story.

The Necklace by Guy de Maupassant
Where can it be found?
The full text can be found here!
Synopsis
This is not the shortest of short stories, but it's a goodie. Basically, a woman is dissatisfied with her lowly economic status, which is comfortable but nothing extravagant. She's been married into a middle income situation and she's so dissatisfied. Her husband brings home an invitation one day to a fancy event, but she says to decline because she doesn't have a nice dress. So the husband arranges for her to have a lovely dress at the cost of 400 francs. Then, she finds that she is still dissatisfied because she doesn't have jewels. The husband tries to convince her to wear flowers, but she insists on jewels. So she borrows some from a wealthy Madame. She goes to the ball, she's intoxicated by the attention she received for being the most beautiful woman in the room. As she walks home, she realises she's lost the necklace. Her husband retraces the steps through the night but finds nothing. So they work extremely hard to find $36,000 to pay for a new diamond necklace. They mortgage the rest of their lives out, and live in poverty and dismay. Years onwards, the wife meets Madame in the street; Madame doesn't recognise her. The wife explains how she's lived a life in debt and turmoil because of the lost necklace, and Madame tells her at the end that it was only costume jewellery. She'd thrown away her life for nothing.
Resources
As always, SparkNotes has you covered! Schmoop does too! This resource here dissects the themes in the text. This resource is excellent for dissecting situational irony and conflict. This text is not short of resources!

The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe
Where can I get a copy?
It was written in 1843, so the world wide web has it available for free viewing here!
Synopsis
I'll start by saying that I'm not a huge fan of Poe's work, but I think this piece is wonderfully mad.
Here's a summary I've taken directly from SparkNotes: "An unnamed narrator opens the story by addressing the reader and claiming that he is nervous but not mad. He says that he is going to tell a story in which he will defend his sanity yet confess to having killed an old man. His motivation was neither passion nor desire for money, but rather a fear of the man’s pale blue eye. Again, he insists that he is not crazy because his cool and measured actions, though criminal, are not those of a madman. Every night, he went to the old man’s apartment and secretly observed the man sleeping. In the morning, he would behave as if everything were normal. After a week of this activity, the narrator decides, somewhat randomly, that the time is right actually to kill the old man."
How does this work with discovery?
-The reader makes a discovery as the story unfolds
-The narrator is coming to terms with a type of discovery at the same time as the reader.
-The idea of truth, and the struggle of truth, is paramount to discovery.
Resources
Obviously, SparkNotes has some great perspective on this text. Schmoop has also got you covered. CliffsNotes also has some perspective on this. Lastly, this resource really breaks down a lot of the techniques, which is always important.

Graphic Novels/Comic Books/Picture Books
Spoiler
Peter Sis’s The Wall: Growing up Behind the Iron Curtain
Where can you get this?
Amazon has copies of this for about $12. My school library had a copy, which is how I came across it (it was actually brought to my attention as a related text for After the Bomb in Extension 1 English). Definitely check out your school or local library before buying a copy. Here's a quick google image search on what the pages of the book look like - so you know.
What's it about?
Basically, the author Peter, was growing up on in Soviet-controlled Czech in the Cold War. The graphic novel explains how his life was in that time. Colour is used mostly (everything black and white with accents of red). It's a real joy to read and it's not very long. Towards the end, influences from the West come floating over the wall...Peter hears about Coca Cola and American Music. So the pages turn to bright colour as the Berlin wall is dismantled. It's a really good book and you can definitely read it in one sitting - about 10 minutes. The most important aspect, at least in my own reading, is that Peter is an artist. He's been drawing for as long as he can remember - even in a place where it was dangerous to draw.
Discovery?
This book works for discovery on a few levels. The idea of perception is challenged as new ideas are discovered. The impact that an environment has on discoveries is potent in this book. The discoveries in the book are transformative in nature, and largely unplanned.
Resources please?
Here's a write up from the New York Times. Here is an interview with the author of the book. And here is the author explaining what is happening on some of the pages. And for what it's worth, here's the blurb from Peter's website.

Shaun Tan’s The Lost Thing (this is also a short film and a play)
Where can I get it?
Here is the direct link to the magical site of The Lost Thing. Here is the animated version.
What's it about?
The YouTube animation describes the plot like this: "A boy finds a strange creature on a beach, and decides to find a home for it in a world where everyone believes there are far more important things to pay attention to."
Discovery
This text worked well for belonging and it'll work well for discovery. The initial experience of discovery is the unplanned nature, when the boy comes across the Thing on the beach. From there, it's a pleasant unravelling of discoveries. The discovery of other people's perceptions is the one that sticks out the most to me. Also, the way that a discovery, like the physical discovery of the Thing, can prompt emotional, intellectual, spiritual and creative discoveries and changes within an individual.
Resources:
If you don't mind reading lesson plans, this resource is genuinely really good for breaking down the text for the first time. Here's another great gold mine for resources on this one! Here's an interview from the State Library of Victoria where Shaun Tan talks about the Lost Thing. There's lots and lots out there on this!

Armin Greder’s The Island

The Violin Man, by Bill Bryson and Colin Thompson

Films (including short films)
Spoiler
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (also a novel)
23 Degrees, 5 minutes (YouTube)
Slumdog Millionaire
Kim Ho’s The Language of Love
Jane Campion’s the Piano
Little Miss Sunshine - Jonathan Dayton
The Butterfly Circus - Joshua Weigel
The Book Thief - Brian Percival
Where do Lilacs Come from? By Matthew Thorne
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
Spirited Away by Hayako Miyazaki
Christopher Kezelos’ Zero
Hunt for the Wilderpeople - Film
Spoiler
Discoveries explored: Self-discovery // Physical discovery // Emotional discovery // Curiosity // Renewed perspectives on individuals and of others // Speculation of future possibilities // Unexpected nature of discovery // Wonder // Necessity // Confronting and provocative // Rediscovery of one's self

Synopsis: Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) follows two main characters, Ricky Baker and Hector. Ricky Baker is a juvenile delinquent who has been abandoned by his mother and has been in and out of foster care with a welfare service officer, Paula. Hector's wife, Bella, is his new foster mother who looks to take on a seemingly impossible task of raising him up. The plot continues to thicken when Bella suddenly dies, and Hector called the welfare service officer to pick him up again. At the same time, Ricky fakes his suicide and burns down a barn where he later runs into the forest - later found by Hector.

In this event, Hector breaks an ankle after taking a fall and they are forced to camp out in the forest. Meanwhile, a national manhunt for the two people begin after authorities believe that Hec has kidnapped Ricky. The two slowly bond as they help each other through this manhunt, which is where most of the internal discoveries take place. Throughout the manhunt, we observe their own selves starting to change and they become more alike in the sense that they are both cared by the same loving person, Bella.

The film places comedy where a lot of the serious issues arise, emphasising the theme of hope and trust as the film concludes with a well rounded version of Ricky Baker - the man he never was - with the film concluding with a scene of Hector (after he is released from prison) and Ricky Baker together.

Discuss discovery in terms of:
There are many chances for you to discuss the notion of discovery.
Self-discovery is one of the main ideas you could definitely bring into light - both, Hector and Ricky transform into a better person individually and in society as a result of their bond. Hector becomes a father figure he never once was. As an illiterate and as someone who hated people, Hector's growth as a person is clear cut - he begins to see love again, encapsulating hopefulness, gratitude, and perseverance when he's around Ricky. Ricky, on the other hand, understands Hector - their bond creates a father-son moment, and this catalyses Ricky's growth. He needed a father figure in his life, and so he begins to transform and grow as a person because of Hector. Together, they are strong - they couldn't survive without the other.

Another big discovery concept that definitely comes into play is the unexpected nature that discoveries can play. We see this very clearly through the death of Bella, the foster mother of Ricky and the wife of Hector. The sudden death of Bella becomes the starting/turning point to a chain of smaller discoveries, but it's the unexpected nature of discovery that drives Hector and Ricky to explore the consequences of their smaller discoveries. They are forced to change the way they live, and through this, they change their outlook on life. The unexpected death meant that Hector had to raise Ricky up, but he fears that the "old" Hector isn't the best role model to do so. As a result of this, he calls the welfare service officers to take Ricky back to juvenile camp. However, his outlook changes through the recurring discoveries that he encounters later on. One big change in someone's lifestyle, as a result, can bring a whole new perspective on themselves and of the world.

Works well with:
I believe that it is definitely a good related text for the Motorcycle Diaries. There are values of adventure that both texts explore, the changed positioning of the protagonist's outlook is definitely a key facet in both texts, and the metaphysical discoveries that are explored are encompassed in both texts.

Still visuals
Spoiler
Picasso - Guernica
Rene Magritte - The Treachery of Images
The Savage State by Thomas Cole

Novels/Novellas
Spoiler
Charles Dickens - Great Expectations
Where can I get it?
You can get this one free on iBooks, but it's a very long text to read from a screen. I read it in paperback.
What's it about?
This is a bildungsroman text - a text that deals with someone's formative years. Pip is a young boy of lowly status who falls into extraordinary circumstances. Pip grows to realise things aren't as they seem (I'm simplifying the story massively - it's one of those stories where everything falls together in ways you could never imagine).
What's it got to do with Discovery?
The story follows someone who actually goes to where the grass is greener, only to realise that it is in fact, not greener. It's a perfect story for discovery new perspectives, challenging old perspectives, discovery emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and creatively, as well as planned and unplanned discoveries. This text, out of all of the ones I've read myself, has the most discovery to unpack.
Some resources please!
Well, we always start with SparkNotes. And then we move to Schmoop. This book review is also pretty handy. You can't read the entire thing unless you sign in, but the preview offers a lot of good analysis on women in the text. And here is a PDF about approaching Great Expectations, as well as some analysis.

John Le Carre - The Spy who Came in from the Cold
What's it about?
The SPy Who Came in from the Cold is a Cold War Espionage novel by John Le Carre - a famous writer in this genre. This is a prescribed text for the Extension 1 English After the Bomb elective. I read it myself, and the genre wasn't my cup of tea, but I cried at the end and I definitely didn't see that coming. The text is quite meaningful and can be enjoyed for it's value on humanism - or its espionage value. Basically, a spy finds himself a pawn in a much bigger game (called the Cold War) and he is tied up with how romance, and state loyalty, can interact. At least, this is the way I see the text. A espionage aficionado would see it differently! :)
What's it got to do with Discovery?
There's a lot of discovering to do in terms of emotions...purpose...and value. There's a lot of physical discoveries too, given that it is in a spy-situation. There's a lot to unpack with this text.
Where are some resources?
There are hundreds of resources on this one, lots of reviews, lots of opinions, etc. Here's a few to get you started:
Here is a summary and guide from Bookrags.
Here's a sort-of opinion piece published to the Guardian.
If you're looking for something more complicated, here is a structuralist reading.

George Orwell’s Animal Farm
Elizabeth Gilbert’s Eat, Pray, Love
Margaret Atwood’s The Vanishing Child
Stephen Cosky’s The Perks of Being a Wallflower (also a film)
Mark Zusak’s The Messenger (2002)
William Golding’s The Lord of the Flies
The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
The Book Thief Markus Zucak

Documentaries
Spoiler
Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant’s comedy travelogue: An Idiot Abroad

Poetry
Spoiler
Percy Shelly - Ozymandias
*This was contributed to by a 2018 HSC graduate!*
What is it?This was produced in 1816. It is about discovering the ephemeral nature of life and the inevitable destruction of all civilizations regardless of their power (sudden and unexpected discovery, confronting and intensely meaningful, emotional, intellectual-some examples from the rubric, but there is more).
'Ozymandias' was consumed by his desire for power, but in the end, he is simply a broken statue in the desert.
Ozymandias explores varying notions of discovery. As we follow the narrators tale, we discover that man is mortal but that art and language remains. Although written in 1816, responders today are able to challenge and question man and his actions and his imprint on nature.
Context?Ozymandias was a Greek name for pharaoh Ramesses II, who ruled Egypt from 1279 BCE to 1213 BCE, in the 19th Dynasty of Ancient Egypt.
For anyone in advanced doing 'The Tempest' as their perscribed:PROSPERO was also consumed by power, however he also discovers the fleeting nature of life and changes his ways.
By combining this idea with the above statement regarding the poem, you could create a concept that would work for both texts equally well (leave out the changing ways bit, because 'ozymandias' does not include that).
I included this reference to the tempest because that is my AOS related text.

When looking at whether its actually RELATED, it doesn't have to be, sometimes its better to have a text that has completely different themes to your perscribed text, but that depends on the person. Also different people can find different ways that texts relate. Remember you can say it relates in any way shape or form AS LONG AS YOU BACK UP/EXPLAIN HOW IT DOES

Annotations:
*Please see below the quote box here for the annotations!*
My apologies to anyone who cannot read my annotations properly, this was done very roughly on my computer-my handwritten annotated copy was even harder to read!
Anyway...
Discovery Ideas:The rediscovery of the forgotten statue of Ozymandias is the central feature of the poem as Shelly expounds how the memory of the king's passion and emotion continues to survive, through "the sneer of cold command." Shelly compels the responder to explore the secrets of Ozymandias, by dislocating himself from the poem in the first stanza.
Whilst reading this poem, the responder is prompted to experience a revelation as an understanding that the acts of all past civilization are now worthless, is explored. Ozymandias' statue symbolizes the ephemeral nature of all individuals.

Analysis:
Line 5: "cold command"-alliteration-a harsh sound which echoes the kings heartless instruction. The imperative, "Tell" uttered by the king captures his arrogance and authority.
Line 10: Hyperbole-reinforces his arrogance and the notion that because he was sculpted larger than life that this would retain his story, his leadership, his monuments
Line 11: The sense of irony-the King's words remains-irony-this is the power of language and art
Line 12: Inversion-stresses the "nothing"-his life's work has come and gone-as do civilizations
Line 13: The exaggerated extended vowel "o" in "colossal" and "round" serve to highlight both the magnitude and the crumbling of his rule.
Line 14: The alliteration of "I" in "level" and "lone" emphasize the endless scope of nature-there is no boundary-nature survives,nature is ever present

Some links with some more analysis,themes etc on the poem:
eNotes.com
CliffsNotes
SparkNotes

So there you have it! Another related Text!
I hope this hopes you on your rollercoaster ride through HSC English Area of Study!
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask me!
Good luck!!  :)
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Robert Frost -The Road Not Taken
Seamus Heaney - Digging
Seamus Heaney - Mid Term Break
Sylvia Plath - Ariel
Margaret Atwood - The Moment
Margaret Atwood - Journey to the Interior
Barn Owl - Gwen Harwood
Peter Skrzynecki’s Crossing the Red Sea
Peter Skrzynecki’s Leaving Home
Darius Simpson and Scout Bostley’s spoken word poem Lost Voices (2015)
Cut - Sylvia Plath
The Good Morrow - John Donne

Biographies
Spoiler
Malala Yousafzai’s I am Malala

Multimedia
Spoiler
The Boat - SBS
Clouds over Sidra - UN
Brandon Stanton: Humans of NY
Where can I access this?
The link to the offical blog is here but you probably know that HONY is on Facebook and Instagram as well. Facebook is important. As you discuss this text, you could discuss the use of social media and interactivity as a technique for discovery in itself. If you want to be more specific, you can actually focus on a particular series that HONY has conducted, you can find the different series here.
Synopsis
I have to say, this is one of my highest recommendations for related texts. It's innovative, it's never a bore to analyse, and you can be as specific or broad as you like (meaning, you could spend ten minutes reading the text or the whole year). Each story gives a little insight into the life of someone. The series unify the experience, bringing the discovery together in a stronger way. I can't give much of a synopsis seeing as every photo is so different, but if you have a look on the blog site, you'll understand.
Discovery
Again, this is diversified. The reader almost always discovers, and usually the topic being discussed is a moment of epiphany or discovery for the individual.
Resources:
This text lacks in resources of the Schmoop kind, so to say. But, I really don't think you need them. Each individual photo has it's own devices, each speech has it's own flair. You can pick and choose what you want to talk about, there's so much variety. If you're into playing the Devil's Advocate, there's lots of criticism for HONY online. Here's an article I like though, about the way audience's are affected by HONY.


Speeches
Spoiler
Hugh Evan’s TED Talk - Global Citizenship
The Fringe Benefits of Failure and the Importance of Imagination by JK Rowling
Ronald Reagan: Challenger Speech (Recording)(Transcript)

Drama/Plays
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Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot
Oscar Wilde’s the Importance of Being Ernest

Essays
Spoiler
George Orwell’s Shooting an Elephant

English Teacher's Association Resource
Spoiler
This is a resource I found online from the ETA. It suggests some related texts, but also suggests ways to go about approaching them. It might be useful for you! If you think it might be worth it, the link is here.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on December 01, 2016, 09:52:27 am
Awesome :) I just had to go through the struggle of finding a related text for my prescribed text and I ended up with The Messenger by Markus *ZUSAK* (Might wanna fix that up buddy :P)

It'll be a huge help for those looking for texts especially if you continue on the contextual analysis you've provided for the novels so far :)

Awesome

Regards, Wales
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on December 01, 2016, 10:06:31 am
Awesome :) I just had to go through the struggle of finding a related text for my prescribed text and I ended up with The Messenger by Markus *ZUSAK* (Might wanna fix that up buddy :P)

It'll be a huge help for those looking for texts especially if you continue on the contextual analysis you've provided for the novels so far :)

Awesome

Regards, Wales

Ahh! Thanks for letting me know. I've fixed it up now. Please let me know if you come across any great resources, I'd love to get your perspective to add in here! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: armtistic on January 05, 2017, 11:07:16 am
Maybe you could add UP(2009) to the films. I'm using it as my related text and I feel like it is a good text to link to discoveries of the self (Carl's rediscovery of compassion and companionship after these ideals died with his wife's passing) and renewed perceptions of others as well ideas such as the impact of youth and loss on the process of discovery.  :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on January 05, 2017, 11:28:00 am
Maybe you could add UP(2009) to the films. I'm using it as my related text and I feel like it is a good text to link to discoveries of the self (Carl's rediscovery of compassion and companionship after these ideals died with his wife's passing) and renewed perceptions of others as well ideas such as the impact of youth and loss on the process of discovery.  :)

Hey hey! I don't want to discourage you from doing UP if it is working well for you and your teacher hasn't raised any concerns. However i'd be a bit careful about using a mainstream children's text like this. Unfortunately, even though these films can present some really good themes and techniques, a lot of the markers have an implicit bias towards Disney/Pixar texts. They sometimes see them as unsophisticated and "easy" (even though in my opinion that is absolutely not true). In my case, one of my back up related texts was Finding Nemo (been to a filmmaking lecture where we studied this so I thought I could cut some corners hahaha), and I was heavily discouraged from using this by my teacher. I thought that since I analysed it differently from most people - focusing more in the internal journey rather than the physical (I went really in depth with the psychology of Bruce the shark ngl) - that it would be fine, but it was still too big of a risk for my teacher to let me continue. Both Finding Nemo and UP are really common related texts, so you have to present a super unique argument in order to stand out.

Again, if this is working well for you right now and neither your teacher or yourself can see any glaring issues then keep doing what you're doing! The ways you have related UP to discovery are good, and I'm definitely no expert in English, just giving you my experience :) Just keep this stuff in mind. It might be beneficial to quickly learn a second related just in case.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: armtistic on January 06, 2017, 09:14:49 pm
Hey hey! I don't want to discourage you from doing UP if it is working well for you and your teacher hasn't raised any concerns. However i'd be a bit careful about using a mainstream children's text like this. Unfortunately, even though these films can present some really good themes and techniques, a lot of the markers have an implicit bias towards Disney/Pixar texts. They sometimes see them as unsophisticated and "easy" (even though in my opinion that is absolutely not true). In my case, one of my back up related texts was Finding Nemo (been to a filmmaking lecture where we studied this so I thought I could cut some corners hahaha), and I was heavily discouraged from using this by my teacher. I thought that since I analysed it differently from most people - focusing more in the internal journey rather than the physical (I went really in depth with the psychology of Bruce the shark ngl) - that it would be fine, but it was still too big of a risk for my teacher to let me continue. Both Finding Nemo and UP are really common related texts, so you have to present a super unique argument in order to stand out.

Again, if this is working well for you right now and neither your teacher or yourself can see any glaring issues then keep doing what you're doing! The ways you have related UP to discovery are good, and I'm definitely no expert in English, just giving you my experience :) Just keep this stuff in mind. It might be beneficial to quickly learn a second related just in case.


Oh dear :o thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on January 06, 2017, 09:28:45 pm

Oh dear :o thanks for the heads up.

No worries! It is very annoying how picky the markers can be :(
If you need any help finding a replacement related text though feel free to message me, or have a look around the forums :) A lot of people have posted their notes/essays with other related texts which will all work really well!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: armtistic on January 07, 2017, 03:36:22 pm
No worries! It is very annoying how picky the markers can be :(
If you need any help finding a replacement related text though feel free to message me, or have a look around the forums :) A lot of people have posted their notes/essays with other related texts which will all work really well!

So my teacher just returned from her vacation and replied with:

"Don't do an animated film because you can't really discuss technicalities like camera angle/ movement, lighting, editing and so forth because there are literally no camera or lights. It's all drawn, so discussion will sound contrived. Plus, yes, they are a little immature. "

As she is marking the essay and, as you mentioned, the HSC markers themselves are not prone to look favourably upon UP, I plan to rewrite the essay with a new related text.

To cut losses short ideally I'd like to retain my work on the prescribed text Away and stick to the question I was trying to answer:

“Experiencing beyond our horizons, deliberately or otherwise, allows us to achieve greater understandings and form renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.” To what degree do your texts support this statement?

This is what my intro looks like at the moment with a line through the stuff related to the old text:

We often find that venturing beyond our own horizons as well as experiencing the worlds of others, leads to self-realization and catalyses transformations in ourselves and those we meet. Michael Gow’s Away and Pete Docter’s UP both demonstrate that it is through the prodigious and inquisitive nature of youth that discoveries are made or precipitated but whilst Gow argues the necessity of understanding or undergoing loss and recovery in order to renew ourselves, Docter focuses on the impact of loss on our perceptions of the world and the need to move on in order to make new discoveries. Studied together, these texts demonstrate that it is delving outside our comfort zones that allow a discovery to be genuinely enriching. An appreciation of what these composers sensitively explore allows us to recognize that the desire to discover and the process of discovery are equally vital in instigating greater understandings and renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.

Basically I'm searching for a text that contains ideas like how youth can undergo or trigger discoveries and also that understanding and overcoming loss/suffering or hearing about the suffering of others allows new discoveries (in Away I discussed them in the form of like self realisations which lead to transformations, I mean, losses are often transformative right?)

Anyway, sorry about the specificity but I was wondering if you could help me find a text that would allow me to explore the ideas above?^

Thank you so much for your help  :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 08, 2017, 12:24:04 am
So my teacher just returned from her vacation and replied with:

"Don't do an animated film because you can't really discuss technicalities like camera angle/ movement, lighting, editing and so forth because there are literally no camera or lights. It's all drawn, so discussion will sound contrived. Plus, yes, they are a little immature. "

As she is marking the essay and, as you mentioned, the HSC markers themselves are not prone to look favourably upon UP, I plan to rewrite the essay with a new related text.

To cut losses short ideally I'd like to retain my work on the prescribed text Away and stick to the question I was trying to answer:

“Experiencing beyond our horizons, deliberately or otherwise, allows us to achieve greater understandings and form renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.” To what degree do your texts support this statement?

This is what my intro looks like at the moment with a line through the stuff related to the old text:

We often find that venturing beyond our own horizons as well as experiencing the worlds of others, leads to self-realization and catalyses transformations in ourselves and those we meet. Michael Gow’s Away and Pete Docter’s UP both demonstrate that it is through the prodigious and inquisitive nature of youth that discoveries are made or precipitated but whilst Gow argues the necessity of understanding or undergoing loss and recovery in order to renew ourselves, Docter focuses on the impact of loss on our perceptions of the world and the need to move on in order to make new discoveries. Studied together, these texts demonstrate that it is delving outside our comfort zones that allow a discovery to be genuinely enriching. An appreciation of what these composers sensitively explore allows us to recognize that the desire to discover and the process of discovery are equally vital in instigating greater understandings and renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.

Basically I'm searching for a text that contains ideas like how youth can undergo or trigger discoveries and also that understanding and overcoming loss/suffering or hearing about the suffering of others allows new discoveries (in Away I discussed them in the form of like self realisations which lead to transformations, I mean, losses are often transformative right?)

Anyway, sorry about the specificity but I was wondering if you could help me find a text that would allow me to explore the ideas above?^

Thank you so much for your help  :)

That explanation from your teacher is kind of funny; of course you can still discuss camera shots and frames! Like, a close up on an animated eye is still a close up right? Anyways... ;)

Yep, sounds like a good plan, especially if she is marking it, definitely roll with her opinions. I think there are definitely texts in the list above that match your conceptual ideas; read some of Elyse's synopsis and maybe look up some plot summaries on some of the films! Failing that, see if you can dig up anything from The Immigrant Chronicle by Peter Skrzynecki, it's a prescribed text (a collection of poems) from the old study design that actually works quite well with Discovery. It's about a Polish migrant child who is struggling with the dichotomy of their Polish and Australian identities; the character and themes could mesh nicely with your prescribed? Worth a look in any case :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on January 08, 2017, 02:45:20 am
So my teacher just returned from her vacation and replied with:

"Don't do an animated film because you can't really discuss technicalities like camera angle/ movement, lighting, editing and so forth because there are literally no camera or lights. It's all drawn, so discussion will sound contrived. Plus, yes, they are a little immature. "

As she is marking the essay and, as you mentioned, the HSC markers themselves are not prone to look favourably upon UP, I plan to rewrite the essay with a new related text.

To cut losses short ideally I'd like to retain my work on the prescribed text Away and stick to the question I was trying to answer:

“Experiencing beyond our horizons, deliberately or otherwise, allows us to achieve greater understandings and form renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.” To what degree do your texts support this statement?

This is what my intro looks like at the moment with a line through the stuff related to the old text:

We often find that venturing beyond our own horizons as well as experiencing the worlds of others, leads to self-realization and catalyses transformations in ourselves and those we meet. Michael Gow’s Away and Pete Docter’s UP both demonstrate that it is through the prodigious and inquisitive nature of youth that discoveries are made or precipitated but whilst Gow argues the necessity of understanding or undergoing loss and recovery in order to renew ourselves, Docter focuses on the impact of loss on our perceptions of the world and the need to move on in order to make new discoveries. Studied together, these texts demonstrate that it is delving outside our comfort zones that allow a discovery to be genuinely enriching. An appreciation of what these composers sensitively explore allows us to recognize that the desire to discover and the process of discovery are equally vital in instigating greater understandings and renewed perceptions of ourselves and others.

Basically I'm searching for a text that contains ideas like how youth can undergo or trigger discoveries and also that understanding and overcoming loss/suffering or hearing about the suffering of others allows new discoveries (in Away I discussed them in the form of like self realisations which lead to transformations, I mean, losses are often transformative right?)

Anyway, sorry about the specificity but I was wondering if you could help me find a text that would allow me to explore the ideas above?^

Thank you so much for your help  :)

Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower.

It fits sooooo well with the arguments you are describing, and pretty easy to get done, and done well, even with limited time. Perks is the related text that I studied, so I'm more than happy to have a chat with you about it to help you get started if you are interested :) My notes for it are also in the 'notes' section of ATARNotes.

As Jamon said, theres going to be tonnes on the list as well that fit that theme, but I definitely rate the Perks of Being a Wallflower (either the novel or the film).
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 08, 2017, 10:38:32 am
Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower.

It fits sooooo well with the arguments you are describing, and pretty easy to get done, and done well, even with limited time. Perks is the related text that I studied, so I'm more than happy to have a chat with you about it to help you get started if you are interested :) My notes for it are also in the 'notes' section of ATARNotes.

As Jamon said, theres going to be tonnes on the list as well that fit that theme, but I definitely rate the Perks of Being a Wallflower (either the novel or the film).

OHH I'VE READ THAT HOW DID I NOT PICK THAT UP! Yep, this is absolutely what you should look at first armtistic!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: armtistic on January 08, 2017, 11:17:18 am
Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower. Perks of Being a Wallflower.

It fits sooooo well with the arguments you are describing, and pretty easy to get done, and done well, even with limited time. Perks is the related text that I studied, so I'm more than happy to have a chat with you about it to help you get started if you are interested :) My notes for it are also in the 'notes' section of ATARNotes.

As Jamon said, theres going to be tonnes on the list as well that fit that theme, but I definitely rate the Perks of Being a Wallflower (either the novel or the film).


These sound like very enthusiastic recommendations  ;D
Normally I'd read the novel but I think I'll stick to the film to make up for time lost and just for some variety from written texts :D
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll go find the movie and read your notes and take you up on that chat if you're free tomorrow.

Thanks again!  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 08, 2017, 11:38:00 am

These sound like very enthusiastic recommendations  ;D
Normally I'd read the novel but I think I'll stick to the film to make up for time lost and just for some variety from written texts :D
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll go find the movie and read your notes and take you up on that chat if you're free tomorrow.

Thanks again!  ;D

Picking a film and using some visual techniques in contrast to the literary techniques from your prescribed will probably work a little better anyway, gives some variety! :) best of luck ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on January 08, 2017, 11:46:56 am

These sound like very enthusiastic recommendations  ;D
Normally I'd read the novel but I think I'll stick to the film to make up for time lost and just for some variety from written texts :D
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll go find the movie and read your notes and take you up on that chat if you're free tomorrow.

Thanks again!  ;D

Definitely free tomorrow to discuss :) I agree with Jamon the film is probably the best way to go. My notes are for the novel, but the film and the novel are so close that they will still work fine, just need to add a few film techniques into the mix  ;)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: samuels1999 on January 28, 2017, 09:38:04 pm
Hi Elyse or Jason,

I just wanted to know if doing a related text that is not necessarily in english (but the subtitles are) is ok.
The text I am referring to is:"Unsung Hero" (Official HD) : TVC Thai Life Insurance

The youtube link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaWA2GbcnJU

Thanks,
Samuel
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 29, 2017, 01:05:14 am
Hi Elyse or Jason,

I just wanted to know if doing a related text that is not necessarily in english (but the subtitles are) is ok.
The text I am referring to is:"Unsung Hero" (Official HD) : TVC Thai Life Insurance

The youtube link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaWA2GbcnJU

Thanks,
Samuel

Hey Samuel! That's definitely 100% fine; you are still able to analyse the use of techniques in non-english films (and I know this film, it's gorgeous, great choice!) ;D

PS - I deleted your additional post (no worries about spelling my name wrong, I get it all the time ;) ), you can edit your posts by clicking 'Modify' to the top right of your post though! ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on February 16, 2017, 11:15:04 pm
Hey Elyse, was was wonder if this short film is suitable? >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjqiU5FgsYc
I'm planning on writing how the boy discovers his potential to find happiness even with his condition. The film shows a contrast between the boy's attitudes towards his condition and the puppy's that leads to a more meaningful impact when he discovers his self worth.
Am i over analysing a simple film to try making it fit into discovery?
Thank you :)  :D

Hey, I just watched this and it's so cute. It's beautifully animated and I really want that dog. So looking at discovery, we have a change in environment being a catalyst, we have renewed perceptions and perspectives, and it's quite symbolic the way he moves outside. I think it could work. It's not by any means a complicated text, but neither was my own related text. I think simple can really work to complement your prescribed text. I think you could definitely work with this. It's nice and short as well, which is good for your studying! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on February 16, 2017, 11:18:15 pm
Hey Elyse or Jamon , I was was wondering if this short film is suitable? >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjqiU5FgsYc
I'm planning on writing how the boy discovers his potential to find happiness even with his condition. The film shows a contrast between the boy's attitudes towards his condition and the puppy's that leads to a more meaningful impact when he discovers his self worth.
Am i over analysing a simple film to try making it fit into discovery?
Thank you :)  :D

Oh I love this film, saw it for the first time a while ago and it is wonderful ;D I think your analysis is really powerful and this film DEFINITELY works really well conceptually! ;D the final step for you will be - Can you identify techniques which communicate these ideas you want to explore? If you can do that, you've got a related text ;D

Edit: Ditto with Elyse ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: strawberriesarekewl on February 22, 2017, 10:50:23 am
Hi

how should i analyse orts? I know you have to look at the discovery rubric, and link them to your prescribed text and such but I am having a somewhat frustrating time analysing ORT's (god I hate orts)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on February 22, 2017, 11:30:08 am
Hi

how should i analyse orts? I know you have to look at the discovery rubric, and link them to your prescribed text and such but I am having a somewhat frustrating time analysing ORT's (god I hate orts)

Hey! What is it specifically you are having trouble with? Selecting a good ORT? Finding techniques in the ORT? Finding links to Discovery and/or the prescribed text? Give us a feel of what stage you are at and we can try and give you some more specific help, because it sounds like you have the idea! ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: strawberriesarekewl on February 22, 2017, 11:40:39 am
Hey! What is it specifically you are having trouble with? Selecting a good ORT? Finding techniques in the ORT? Finding links to Discovery and/or the prescribed text? Give us a feel of what stage you are at and we can try and give you some more specific help, because it sounds like you have the idea! ;D

I've already selected an ORT and I am quite confused in deconstructing it (my english teacher doesnt want to spoonfeed me). It's a poem and I am not really having a clear idea of how to deconstruct it (mainly in terms of it's context) and linking it to my prescibed
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on February 22, 2017, 11:54:27 am
I've already selected an ORT and I am quite confused in deconstructing it (my english teacher doesnt want to spoonfeed me). It's a poem and I am not really having a clear idea of how to deconstruct it (mainly in terms of it's context) and linking it to my prescibed

Great, so I'd suggest you do a few sweeps of the poem to detect techniques first:

1st Sweep: Jot down the main themes of the poem
2nd Sweep: Sound devices, easy to find (alliteration, assonance)
3rd Sweep: Imagery
4th Sweep: Figurative Language (metaphors, similes, personification)
5th Sweep: Tone
6th Sweep: Syntax and language features

Then more as required - This will make sure you get all the techniques and themes. Then, start thinking about WHAT the composer is saying, and further, WHY they are saying it. What does that metaphor do, what does it say, and why do you think the composer wants to say that (given their context). Does the composer have a personal history of mental health issues? Then it would make sense that they use vivid imagery to describe a mental health issue in the poem, for example. That's the sort of link you are looking for :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: diesxel on February 24, 2017, 06:12:27 pm
Hello I was just wondering if there were any recommended ORT's to that would fit well with the prescribed text The Tempest by Shakespeare?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: biancajuru on February 24, 2017, 06:48:48 pm

Hello I was just wondering if there were any recommended ORT's to that would fit well with the prescribed text The Tempest by Shakespeare?

Thanks!!

Hey good relateds include:
- The Pearl by Steinbeck (novella)
- Big World by Winton (short story)
- The Great Beauty (foreign film)
- The National Picture by Geoff Parr (recontextualisation of Benjamin Dutterau͛s The Conciliation- artwork)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kiwiberry on February 24, 2017, 06:57:22 pm
Hello I was just wondering if there were any recommended ORT's to that would fit well with the prescribed text The Tempest by Shakespeare?

Thanks!!

I used the short story The Story of an Hour by Kate Chopin and I think it worked quite well! I know some others used the poem Father and Child by Gwen Harwood too :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on February 24, 2017, 07:12:26 pm
Hello I was just wondering if there were any recommended ORT's to that would fit well with the prescribed text The Tempest by Shakespeare?

Thanks!!
Some great suggestions by both Bianca and kiwiberry! I'd also recommend having a look at the Perks of Being a Wallflower and An Idiot Abroad :) Both of these texts worked perfectly for me, you can find my Tempest essay with these related here, along with notes on the respective texts here and here! Hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: h_blair on March 01, 2017, 08:52:20 pm
We're studying 'Motorcycle Diaries' and thinking of possibly doing Mary Harron' 'American Psycho' film as a related, any thoughts or ideas on this?? Also thinking of possibly Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Raven', however, I can't find much info on it, does this mean it's a bad choice?

Thanks
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on March 02, 2017, 04:56:25 am
We're studying 'Motorcycle Diaries' and thinking of possibly doing Mary Harron' 'American Psycho' film as a related, any thoughts or ideas on this?? Also thinking of possibly Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Raven', however, I can't find much info on it, does this mean it's a bad choice?

Thanks

Hey h_blair, choosing a text without much information about it online has its benefits but also drawbacks. Not being able to analyse the text through someone else's reading prompts you to bring forward a unique, personal analysis of the text. I only used my own analysis for my discovery and Mod C related text, because there was hardly anything on the internet to help me. But, this worked in my favour because I could actively search for links to my prescribed text during my initial readings, making the linking process a lot easier. In saying that, I know that you can get to a dead end when analysing a text and want to bounce off the idea's of others. If there's not much online, and your teacher and peers haven't read the text, it can be tricky to gauge other ideas. So, that's the drawback. The availability of online resources doesn't dictate the quality of the text in relation to your study, though! So you could be sitting right on a gold mine with your choices and you don't even know it yet :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mary_a on March 04, 2017, 06:31:30 pm
Hey everyone,

I was just wondering how many related test you recommend learning for AOS?

I'm thinking of: John Keats' On First Looking Into Chapman's Homer. Peter Weir's: Dead Poet's Society and William Golding's: Lord Of The Flies.

Thanks so much,

Mary
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 04, 2017, 06:38:07 pm
Hey everyone,

I was just wondering how many related test you recommend learning for AOS?

I'm thinking of: John Keats' On First Looking Into Chapman's Homer. Peter Weir's: Dead Poet's Society and William Golding's: Lord Of The Flies.

Thanks so much,

Mary

Hey Mary! Personally, I only prepared one Related Text. The fact is, it is highly unlikely they'd ask for any more than that. On the super slim chance they did, then you could just use one of your unseen texts from Section 1!

The likelihood of needing 2 ORT's is really slim, so it's probably not worth it to study two, and it is definitely not worth it to study 3 ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: bowiemily on March 05, 2017, 07:57:00 am
Hey everyone,

I was just wondering how many related test you recommend learning for AOS?

I'm thinking of: John Keats' On First Looking Into Chapman's Homer. Peter Weir's: Dead Poet's Society and William Golding's: Lord Of The Flies.

Thanks so much,

Mary

Mary,
If you're doing Romanticism for Ext 1, I would highly recommend Keats AND NOT WEIR. This way, you can use Keats as an ORT in both Extension 1 and Advanced. I have been told by many Ext 1 Markers that Dead Poets is a big no no as an ORT for extension, mainly as it is written outside of the period. A fantastic text, one of my favourite movies, but perhaps not the best for the HSC
I always tried to look for where my ORTs could overlap. Keep in mind that your discovery ORT could also work as your Module C text
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mary_a on March 08, 2017, 07:18:09 pm
Mary,
If you're doing Romanticism for Ext 1, I would highly recommend Keats AND NOT WEIR. This way, you can use Keats as an ORT in both Extension 1 and Advanced. I have been told by many Ext 1 Markers that Dead Poets is a big no no as an ORT for extension, mainly as it is written outside of the period. A fantastic text, one of my favourite movies, but perhaps not the best for the HSC
I always tried to look for where my ORTs could overlap. Keep in mind that your discovery ORT could also work as your Module C text

Thank you so much for your advice, I really appreciate it! I didn't think to use related texts as overlapping with modules and different courses-how efficient!

Thanks again,

Mary
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kaseyv on March 14, 2017, 09:08:17 pm
Would Alice's Adventures In Wonderland by Lewis Carrol be a good related text for The Tempest?
There are some pretty deep themes and motifs that are similar to The Tempest, e.g. emotional discovery, self discovery, imagined discovery, discovery of new worlds etc
I've completed an essay on it already and received a pretty good mark, but I was just wondering how it would be perceived by HSC markers.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on March 15, 2017, 09:02:36 am
Would Alice's Adventures In Wonderland by Lewis Carrol be a good related text for The Tempest?
There are some pretty deep themes and motifs that are similar to The Tempest, e.g. emotional discovery, self discovery, imagined discovery, discovery of new worlds etc
I've completed an essay on it already and received a pretty good mark, but I was just wondering how it would be perceived by HSC markers.

Thanks :)

That's great! Congratulations on your wonderful mark :)

I cannot see any reason that a marker would have prejudice against this text (conscious or subconscious). Lewis Carrol is well received, and perhaps this is his most famous work! I think if you chose the animated film adaption, some people would suggest to avoid that (although, I personally don't like to speak as though I know what markers do/don't like if I haven't heard an actual marker say it directly!), there are lots of perspectives people have on that. But, you're making a safe bet with the original text, and I'd certainly be excited to see the way you've fused the two texts together - both such significant texts, from completely different times, who would have thought? :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Thebarman on March 17, 2017, 12:39:39 am
Hey guys, any suggestions for a related text that has a focus on the environment, namely the impact of human carelessness in preserving it?
Ideally I would link it to Robert Gray's poems Flames and Dangling Wire as well as The Meatworks.

Also, if analysing 2 poems and 1 ORT, would it be acceptable to analyse the two poems in one body paragraph and the related + 1 poem in another, or would the ORT need to be analysed in both paragraphs? Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: CaitlinSavins on March 19, 2017, 04:57:11 pm
I was considering using Hamilton as a related text for the Motorcycle Diaries, only a particular selection of sequential songs: We Know, Hurricane, The Reynolds Pamphlet. Could anyone familiar with Hamilton advise whether it's better to analyse them as parts of a play or songs? Because I was just thinking analysing them as songs would really be analysing the Broadway album, rather than the actual words and lines...
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 19, 2017, 08:44:47 pm
Hey guys, any suggestions for a related text that has a focus on the environment, namely the impact of human carelessness in preserving it?
Ideally I would link it to Robert Gray's poems Flames and Dangling Wire as well as The Meatworks.

Also, if analysing 2 poems and 1 ORT, would it be acceptable to analyse the two poems in one body paragraph and the related + 1 poem in another, or would the ORT need to be analysed in both paragraphs? Thanks!

Hey barman! Unfortunately I can't recommend a related text for you, but with regard to your second question, it would make the most sense to do one of these:

- If 2 paragraphs, do the two poems in one and the ORT in the other
- If 3 paragraphs, do poem, poem and ORT

Your other option is to discuss both poems and your ORT in every paragraph, grouping instead by themes! That's an integrated response ;D ultimately it is your preference!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on March 19, 2017, 09:06:01 pm
Hey guys, any suggestions for a related text that has a focus on the environment, namely the impact of human carelessness in preserving it?
Ideally I would link it to Robert Gray's poems Flames and Dangling Wire as well as The Meatworks.

Also, if analysing 2 poems and 1 ORT, would it be acceptable to analyse the two poems in one body paragraph and the related + 1 poem in another, or would the ORT need to be analysed in both paragraphs? Thanks!

Hey! When you talk about the environment, Seamus Heaney's poetry comes to mind. His poems, from what I've studied, are more about him drawing inspiration from the environment (Digging and Personal Helicon spring to mind). Perhaps you could twist these to work in your favour? Potentially he has other poems about the destroying of the environment...I'm not sure!
A short story came up on my Facebook once but I didn't read it, but it was about the environment being destroyed. It was called The Toxic Donut. It might be worth tracking down :)

Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: annieeeee on March 20, 2017, 10:40:20 am
Hi,
I was wondering if The Outsiders was a good related text for The Motorcycle Diaries. I've read sources online and say that there is a self - discovery, but it seems that its the only discovery within the novel... Would it be a good related text?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Thebarman on March 20, 2017, 08:10:33 pm
Hey barman! Unfortunately I can't recommend a related text for you, but with regard to your second question, it would make the most sense to do one of these:

- If 2 paragraphs, do the two poems in one and the ORT in the other
- If 3 paragraphs, do poem, poem and ORT

Your other option is to discuss both poems and your ORT in every paragraph, grouping instead by themes! That's an integrated response ;D ultimately it is your preference!
Thanks for the ideas! I'm more inclined to write 2 paragraphs, so I think I'll go for the 2 poems + ORT structure. In that case, I would compare the ORT to one of the poems from the first paragraph, right?

Hey! When you talk about the environment, Seamus Heaney's poetry comes to mind. His poems, from what I've studied, are more about him drawing inspiration from the environment (Digging and Personal Helicon spring to mind). Perhaps you could twist these to work in your favour? Potentially he has other poems about the destroying of the environment...I'm not sure!
A short story came up on my Facebook once but I didn't read it, but it was about the environment being destroyed. It was called The Toxic Donut. It might be worth tracking down :)
Ahh, I remember his poems. I briefly looked at Digging and another one at the start of prelim standard before moving to advance. I'll dig them up again (pardon the pun) and review them.
Oddly enough, I can find study material for the Toxic Donut, but not the story itself. I'll look further into that one after the half yearlies.

I think I found a related text that goes with my original thought. Tim Winton's Time and Tide. I'll compare it to Elyse's ideas and decide which one works best in my favour. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on March 20, 2017, 08:29:36 pm
Thanks for the ideas! I'm more inclined to write 2 paragraphs, so I think I'll go for the 2 poems + ORT structure. In that case, I would compare the ORT to one of the poems from the first paragraph, right?

You could be drawing some links every now and again for sure (if this is a comparative essay, it should be a focus) - But on the whole if you go with the 1 paragraph poems, 1 paragraph ORT structure, the second paragraph should focus primarily on the ORT! :) the comparison isn't SUPER necessary beyond the occasional mention unless you are doing a comparative ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: issaustin on April 05, 2017, 12:18:04 am
Songs related to AOS DIscovery?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on April 05, 2017, 12:23:27 am
Songs related to AOS DIscovery?

Hi Austin,

I haven't yet seen anyone use a song for AOS. The Guardian has written a list of songs about discovery but it isn't HSC-specific. It might give you some ideas though! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on April 05, 2017, 12:48:43 am
Songs related to AOS DIscovery?

I feel like a lot of The Beatles songs would work :) Maybe one of these?
- Let it Be
- Strawberry Fields Forever
- Because
- I'm only sleeping
- God (okay so this is actually by John Lennon not The Beatles but whatevs - same with 'Imagine')

I'm not 100% sure how much analysis you'd be able to draw out of them, but idk maybe they could work :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: issaustin on April 05, 2017, 02:03:25 am
I feel like a lot of The Beatles songs would work :) Maybe one of these?
- Let it Be
- Strawberry Fields Forever
- Because
- I'm only sleeping
- God (okay so this is actually by John Lennon not The Beatles but whatevs - same with 'Imagine')

I'm not 100% sure how much analysis you'd be able to draw out of them, but idk maybe they could work :)

thanks
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: issaustin on April 05, 2017, 03:52:08 am
Hi Austin,

I haven't yet seen anyone use a song for AOS. The Guardian has written a list of songs about discovery but it isn't HSC-specific. It might give you some ideas though! :)
oh okay, thanks anyway
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: marcusgrahamm on May 23, 2017, 08:24:49 pm
A few good one I can think of:

1. The Heart Of Darkness.
2. Invictus.
3. The island.
4. Atwood Essays.

You want a sophisticated ORT that really shows that you can discuss a classic in depth.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Shadowfox42 on May 30, 2017, 10:52:40 pm
Hey guys,

I was thinking of doing the Novel "All the Light We Cannot See" by Anthony Doerr as my Discovery related text and was wondering:
a) Whether it has enough discovery to be considered a viable option as a related text?
b) Due to it winning a Pulitzer Prize and becoming somewhat well known, will it be chosen by many other students around the state?

Thanks,
Bailey
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on May 31, 2017, 02:06:56 am
Hey guys,

I was thinking of doing the Novel "All the Light We Cannot See" by Anthony Doerr as my Discovery related text and was wondering:
a) Whether it has enough discovery to be considered a viable option as a related text?
b) Due to it winning a Pulitzer Prize and becoming somewhat well known, will it be chosen by many other students around the state?

Thanks,
Bailey

Hey there! Unfortunately, I haven't read the text so I can't comment a whole lot on its contents. BUT, I haven't heard anyone else discuss the text on the forums or offline, and usually being a Pullitzer Prize winner won't guarantee students flock to it (even though it does make the text really cool!). So, you should be safe in that regard :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: samsclaire on June 01, 2017, 08:22:11 pm
hi! i have my first related text ('Moon Landing' by W. H. Auden), but i'm a little stuck on my second. i'm considering 'Your Paris' by Ted Hughes. is that one that people commonly do? do you think it suits discovery?

(the tempest is my prescribed text, if that matters)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 02, 2017, 06:14:18 pm
For my Discovery topic I was prescribed Frank Hurley: The Man Who Made History and I chose The Messenger as a related. I scored 10/20 for my speech.

Should I try fix it up or search for a new creative? I felt like The Messenger was a rather relatable text, maybe my execution was just bad?

Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 02, 2017, 07:06:55 pm
hi! i have my first related text ('Moon Landing' by W. H. Auden), but i'm a little stuck on my second. i'm considering 'Your Paris' by Ted Hughes. is that one that people commonly do? do you think it suits discovery?

(the tempest is my prescribed text, if that matters)

Hey! It is definitely not a commonly chosen text, but don't let that dissuade you! Do you think it works? ;D

For my Discovery topic I was prescribed Frank Hurley: The Man Who Made History and I chose The Messenger as a related. I scored 10/20 for my speech.

Should I try fix it up or search for a new creative? I felt like The Messenger was a rather relatable text, maybe my execution was just bad?

What were the comments you received Wales? Like, can you attribute the mark losses to the ORT? :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 02, 2017, 09:42:27 pm
Hey! It is definitely not a commonly chosen text, but don't let that dissuade you! Do you think it works? ;D

What were the comments you received Wales? Like, can you attribute the mark losses to the ORT? :)


Untraditonal but I studied the text in Year 10 and had HappyPhysicsLand's essay to model off so I was quite confident.

As for feedback...well that's where I'm a bit upset. I had 2 comments on my script I handed in, one of which was a spelling error. It was very poor feedback so I've asked my english teacher to give me more feedback. I'll post back with that later :) Upset though, it's really made my english rank tank :( Task 1 - 19 Task 2 - 3 and overall 17. Hopefully I can bring it back.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: shrezz23 on June 05, 2017, 08:53:00 pm
what are your thoughts on a related text which isnt english?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 05, 2017, 08:54:15 pm
what are your thoughts on a related text which isnt english?

Welcome to the forums!! ;D very interesting question, I suppose my question would be, how will you provide evidence from the text? Will you give the translated version or? :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: marcusgrahamm on June 12, 2017, 07:59:40 pm
What is probably the most sophisticated film I could do as an ORT for the Tempest??

I did an essay on The Heart Of Darkness I'm juts not feeling it but I want a challenging film ORT!

ANY SUGGESTIONS???
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sudodds on June 12, 2017, 08:05:19 pm
What is probably the most sophisticated film I could do as an ORT for the Tempest??

I did an essay on The Heart Of Darkness I'm juts not feeling it but I want a challenging film ORT!

ANY SUGGESTIONS???
My friend used 'Juno' and it worked really well for her (pretty sure she got 18/20 for Trials?) :) I feel like '100 days of Summer' or 'Little Miss Sunshine' could also work quite well!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: tay.j on June 13, 2017, 09:44:03 am
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but where could I find help for Year 11 Journey Related Texts?
Prescribed text is Macbeth...I'm just really struggling to understand what to look for in a related text...
Thanks for any help :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 13, 2017, 11:38:51 am
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but where could I find help for Year 11 Journey Related Texts?
Prescribed text is Macbeth...I'm just really struggling to understand what to look for in a related text...
Thanks for any help :)

You can try ask your teacher for suggestions. Think back to a text you've studied previously.

I used Messenger for Discovery Yr 12 and I studied Messenger in Yr 10.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: marcusgrahamm on June 13, 2017, 06:55:42 pm
Thanks for that I didn't even think of Juno but I'm seeing a lot of great connections ill give it a go!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 13, 2017, 09:37:37 pm
Thanks for that I didn't even think of Juno but I'm seeing a lot of great connections ill give it a go!!

Most texts should work, you just pick out the related parts. Obviously be sensible but choosing a related is a flexible area.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: yattmoani on June 21, 2017, 08:26:49 pm
Hey! what are your thoughts on using a short film as a discovery related? One of the films i was thinking of doing is called Paperman, a short clip that i found on youtube that seemed like it expresses discovery well. However, im not too sure about how ideas and themes are conveyed and through what techniques.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 21, 2017, 09:17:48 pm
Hey! what are your thoughts on using a short film as a discovery related? One of the films i was thinking of doing is called Paperman, a short clip that i found on youtube that seemed like it expresses discovery well. However, im not too sure about how ideas and themes are conveyed and through what techniques.

You can definitely use a short film. I recall people in my class using Paperman as a related.

Plenty of techniques and works well with Discovery
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: yattmoani on June 21, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Thanks for the confirmation! Would you recommend using a short story instead? As i feel like it is easier to draw upon key concepts from a short story rather than a short film.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Wales on June 21, 2017, 09:57:54 pm
Thanks for the confirmation! Would you recommend using a short story instead? As i feel like it is easier to draw upon key concepts from a short story rather than a short film.

It really depends from story to story. I personally used The Messenger as my related because I liked it and it works well. Ask your teacher about it but there are loads of texts out there :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on June 22, 2017, 05:52:23 pm
Thanks for the confirmation! Would you recommend using a short story instead? As i feel like it is easier to draw upon key concepts from a short story rather than a short film.

If you find short stories easier I'd go for that! Much to your preference - The other thing to consider is breadth. If you are doing a novel as your prescribed text, doing a film would give you a broader range of techniques, just as an example ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: socialexperiment on July 14, 2017, 09:25:56 am
HEY!
I'm really struggling to find a suitable related text for Go back to where you came from. I have a brief idea as to what I'm going to be talking about but I just can't find a great ORT. My thesis is "Discoveries are transformative, however ultimately it is the individual’s willingness to discourse on the multi-facetted nature of discovery, which permeates renewed perception of their surroundings." Any help would be amazing!
Thankyou! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: studybuddy7777 on July 14, 2017, 02:03:35 pm
EDIT: I did not realise what I was quoting was 3 weeks old, it is only the message before mine that was posted recently. I understand if you don't take it on board or realise and sorry for any inconvenience caused :D

Thanks for the confirmation! Would you recommend using a short story instead? As i feel like it is easier to draw upon key concepts from a short story rather than a short film.

Picture books were my favourite in the HSC as they had minimal but powerful text/quotes to remember and a great combination of literary and visual devices to help aid my response. At the end of the day though, it comes down to personal preference. Where do your strengths lie? Visual or literal techniques? Personally I was one for literary techniques rather than visual but it is what you think is better.

The HSC is a game. You just have to know how to play it and the way to play it is to use your strengths. 

Hey! what are your thoughts on using a short film as a discovery related? One of the films i was thinking of doing is called Paperman, a short clip that i found on youtube that seemed like it expresses discovery well. However, im not too sure about how ideas and themes are conveyed and through what techniques.

Paperman is a great related text, if not a tad overused. I didn't use this but know lots that did; they found ideas/themes/techniques/meaning of life when they watched it quite easily.

If you are into picture books - The Rabbits by John Marsden and Shaun Tan is awesome and overflowing with juicy discovery goodness ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on July 14, 2017, 03:23:33 pm
HEY!
I'm really struggling to find a suitable related text for Go back to where you came from. I have a brief idea as to what I'm going to be talking about but I just can't find a great ORT. My thesis is "Discoveries are transformative, however ultimately it is the individual’s willingness to discourse on the multi-facetted nature of discovery, which permeates renewed perception of their surroundings." Any help would be amazing!
Thankyou! :)

hey there! I studied this prescribed text and I chose Tim Winton's Distant Lands in his anthology Minimum of Two. Another short story that would work is Neighbours by Tim Winton, in his anthology Scission. My AOS essay is available for free download in the "notes" tab, so you can see how I analysed it :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: olr1999 on July 14, 2017, 04:23:50 pm
Hi!
How many related texts would you recommend we prepare for discovery?
I have one novel as a related so far (yet it applies to every part of the rubric) called 'The Book of Seculation' by Erika Swyler.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on July 14, 2017, 04:26:27 pm
Hi!
How many related texts would you recommend we prepare for discovery?
I have one novel as a related so far (yet it applies to every part of the rubric) called 'The Book of Seculation' by Erika Swyler.
Thanks!

Hey there :) I only prepared one. I felt confident that I would be able to adapt it to various sections of the rubric. Also, studying just one meant that I could commit to realllllly learning this one in detail, instead of spreading my study time across texts. If you think your current related text isn't going to be strong enough, that's when I'd pick up another one (that probably isn't as long as a novel) in order to give yourself the best chances of success in the exam! But I would be a hypocrite if I told you to study more than one!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: DonQ on July 19, 2017, 09:49:03 pm
If they do happen to ask for two related in discovery, and you use one from the unseen text, what kind of depth would you need to go into?
For example, could you use similar analysis and quotes to the unseen section
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on July 20, 2017, 11:34:58 am
If they do happen to ask for two related in discovery, and you use one from the unseen text, what kind of depth would you need to go into?
For example, could you use similar analysis and quotes to the unseen section
The person who marks your unseen texts will not be the same person who marks your essay - so reusing analysis is completely fine! If they were to ask for two related texts and you only had one prepared, and you were relying on an unseen text to pull you through, I think it's completely fine to spend about 20% of your analysis, to 25%, on the unseen text. Because if your prescribed text makes 50%, then your two related will make up the other 50% together. Obviously this can change, to perhaps 40% prescribed, then 30% for each related...it depends on what you feel most comfortable with in the exam and looking specifically at your essay question :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mymy409 on July 27, 2017, 09:21:17 pm
Hi! Would you advise against using a 'common' related text such as Lord of the Flies? I know it's in the list and all, but I've heard that related texts that are well known and commonly studied in English should NOT be used because a lot of people use them and teachers get bored of reading the same thing over and over.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on July 27, 2017, 10:02:14 pm
Hi! Would you advise against using a 'common' related text such as Lord of the Flies? I know it's in the list and all, but I've heard that related texts that are well known and commonly studied in English should NOT be used because a lot of people use them and teachers get bored of reading the same thing over and over.

Hey! This is a common misconception - Using a 'common' related text puts you at no immediate disadvantage, just avoid picking it purely because it is common, it has to be something you can analyse and that works with your text! While markers might get sick of the same text done poorly, there is no issue if you do it well!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mymy409 on July 28, 2017, 08:37:17 am
Hey! This is a common misconception - Using a 'common' related text puts you at no immediate disadvantage, just avoid picking it purely because it is common, it has to be something you can analyse and that works with your text! While markers might get sick of the same text done poorly, there is no issue if you do it well!

Thanks, Jamon!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: ca052267 on July 30, 2017, 01:10:37 am
Hey,
I know this thread is for discovery orts, but i was wondering if you could give me advice on this too...

I was just wondering if it is ok for me to use The Lorax by DR Seuss as my ORT for Mod C - People and Landscapes and possible even discovery?
 I thought about all the conservation ideologies and protecting the environment from exploitation which  would match well with the selected poems from Judith Wright (prescribed)

I was originally going to use The black book of Colour a picture book by Menina Cottin as my first ORT to talk about the impact of blindness on one's connection with the landscape. Then I thought of the Lorax ( my all-time favourite Dr Seuss book)

Thanks
 
Charbella :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: sirecg02 on July 30, 2017, 11:48:31 am
Hey I am hoping to use "The Glass Jar" - Poem by Gwen Harwood - I was wondering if I could have your opinion on whether it is suitable for discovery. My prescribed is "Away" by Michael Gow. :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: akunbebas on July 30, 2017, 01:20:33 pm
Hi! I was wondering which related text should I choose.right now my class is doing film Stephen Daldry, Billy Elliot and prose fiction Allan Baillie, The China Coin. if anyone have some suggestions feel free to tell me.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: brokenboxes on July 30, 2017, 11:10:29 pm
Just putting it out there, if anyone still can't decide on what to use as a discovery related I strongly recommend using "The Messenger" by Markus Zusak, it is a text that has really strong links to the rubric.

Also it is a great novel and is definitely a MUST read (... well anything Markus Zusak is a must read) :) You won't regret it
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: good_stuff on August 11, 2017, 11:25:22 pm
Hi everyone,

Please help!!
I have trials coming up next week and I've stupidly left it till last minute- my teacher said today that using picture books can be a disadvantage because they require artistic frames and really specific analysis, which I don't feel confident doing- and I've only prepared a graphic novel; The Arrival by Shaun Tan.
My prescribed AOS is Robert Gray's poetry. Are there any quick life saving texts out there? Otherwise, any tips for analysing my graphic novel? :((

Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 12, 2017, 12:11:42 am
Hi everyone,

Please help!!
I have trials coming up next week and I've stupidly left it till last minute- my teacher said today that using picture books can be a disadvantage because they require artistic frames and really specific analysis, which I don't feel confident doing- and I've only prepared a graphic novel; The Arrival by Shaun Tan.
My prescribed AOS is Robert Gray's poetry. Are there any quick life saving texts out there? Otherwise, any tips for analysing my graphic novel? :((

Hey! With Trials so close, I honestly think sticking with The Arrival is your best bet! Like, if you can link it to Discovery and you've got quotes/techniques, that's all you actually need! Do you think you've checked those boxes to an extent you are happy with? :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: good_stuff on August 12, 2017, 01:59:09 pm
Hey! With Trials so close, I honestly think sticking with The Arrival is your best bet! Like, if you can link it to Discovery and you've got quotes/techniques, that's all you actually need! Do you think you've checked those boxes to an extent you are happy with? :)

Hi Jamon,
The Arrival doesn't have any words in it, apart from some weird drawn in words- apart from colour (the whole thing is in sepia), so I am a bit worried about the markers inherently thinking my analysis is shallow  but a I can analyse and link symbols to my prescribed, even if i have to stretch it a bit. :\\
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: bowiemily on August 12, 2017, 03:03:47 pm
Hi Jamon,
The Arrival doesn't have any words in it, apart from some weird drawn in words- apart from colour (the whole thing is in sepia), so I am a bit worried about the markers inherently thinking my analysis is shallow  but a I can analyse and link symbols to my prescribed, even if i have to stretch it a bit. :\\


Though I think the Arrival is still a great text, and I too would suggest sticking with what you've prepared this late in the game, perhaps a short story would be worthwhile. Maybe Lamb to the Slaughter by Roald Dahl, or any of Tim Winton's short stories.
I can vouch for picture books working well though. This is because many people are encouraged to use paintings for Extension One English in order to heighten the sophistication of their response. Surely this wouldn't be suggested if analysis of a visual was thought to be superficial? Also, even if you are worried about stretching your links, as long as they have grounding in the discovery syllabus, they should be fine. Just make sure you explicitly state the rubric dot point you are trying to prove
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: good_stuff on August 14, 2017, 06:20:31 pm
Though I think the Arrival is still a great text, and I too would suggest sticking with what you've prepared this late in the game, perhaps a short story would be worthwhile. Maybe Lamb to the Slaughter by Roald Dahl, or any of Tim Winton's short stories.
I can vouch for picture books working well though. This is because many people are encouraged to use paintings for Extension One English in order to heighten the sophistication of their response. Surely this wouldn't be suggested if analysis of a visual was thought to be superficial? Also, even if you are worried about stretching your links, as long as they have grounding in the discovery syllabus, they should be fine. Just make sure you explicitly state the rubric dot point you are trying to prove

Hey Emily!
haha I don't know if you remember but I very awkwardly said thank you after your HSC lecture last holidays. I did my test today, and ended up just sticking to my previous text. Hopefully everything will end up fine :) Just got paper II now!!
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Post by: bowiemily on August 16, 2017, 11:16:25 am
Hey Emily!
haha I don't know if you remember but I very awkwardly said thank you after your HSC lecture last holidays. I did my test today, and ended up just sticking to my previous text. Hopefully everything will end up fine :) Just got paper II now!!

Ah yes I remember! Nice to see you on the forums :) I think you made the best decision there. Best of luck for Paper 2!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Caleb Campion on October 14, 2017, 03:37:48 pm
Hey! I was wondering if anyone knows of any discovery related texts (novels) that are uncommonly used by schools and most people, but would still be able to find at a library etc? I really wanted to use 'An Open Swimmer' by Tim Winton but it wasn't at my library! Does anyone know of any good Tim Winton novels that have deep discovery themes? Any answers asap would be appreciated :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on October 14, 2017, 03:43:23 pm
Hey! I was wondering if anyone knows of any discovery related texts (novels) that are uncommonly used by schools and most people, but would still be able to find at a library etc? I really wanted to use 'An Open Swimmer' by Tim Winton but it wasn't at my library! Does anyone know of any good Tim Winton novels that have deep discovery themes? Any answers asap would be appreciated :)

Cloudstreet does (I'm reading it at the moment but I'm not too far in yet) but I've noticed this in Cloudstreet. If you're willing to move away from Tim Winton and don't mind a challenge, Charles Dickens' Great Expectations has soooo many levels of discovery!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Potatohater on October 14, 2017, 04:16:52 pm
Another good one to add for the plays section is Ruby Moon by Matt Cameron - it provides an interesting contrast to my prescribed and most likley others too since it explores the concequences of excessive rediscovery and resistance to discovery. There are other discoveries in there too but I think the above points are the most interesting to explore.   ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Caleb Campion on October 14, 2017, 04:33:39 pm
I've managed to get a hold of an eBook of 'The Messenger' by Markus Zusak. Is it good to do? Or are the ideas of discovery too simple? Also, how 'teen-fiction' is it? My teacher didn't want us doing 'teen fiction like the hunger games'. I'm looking for a text with deep and advanced analysis that works well, but I'm not a big reader, so less than 400 pages would be good?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on October 23, 2017, 04:59:48 pm
If i might make a suggestion to the related texts, one that i found that was quite interesting is Ronald Regens seech regarding the NASA space shuttle "challenger" in 1986. It was his speech addressing the nation following the shuttles explosion 73 seconds after take off. He sits there, lamenting the great quest the astronauts undertook and talks about how it is a human instinct to discover and push the boundaries of what we know which make it not a bad related text for discovery. It has some good themes like bravery in face of the unknown as well.
I don't know if it it'll actually be of any use to anyone, but feel free to add it. If it helps just one person then i'll be happy! I found it pretty good because its only 4 minutes long which is really good if you have an exam coming up soon and you still don't have a related text.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 23, 2017, 11:21:57 pm
If i might make a suggestion to the related texts, one that i found that was quite interesting is Ronald Regens seech regarding the NASA space shuttle "challenger" in 1986. It was his speech addressing the nation following the shuttles explosion 73 seconds after take off. He sits there, lamenting the great quest the astronauts undertook and talks about how it is a human instinct to discover and push the boundaries of what we know which make it not a bad related text for discovery. It has some good themes like bravery in face of the unknown as well.
I don't know if it it'll actually be of any use to anyone, but feel free to add it. If it helps just one person then i'll be happy! I found it pretty good because its only 4 minutes long which is really good if you have an exam coming up soon and you still don't have a related text.


Welcome to the forums! Sounds like an awesome suggestion - Do you have a particular recording you accessed on YouTube or a transcript you used? Would love to add it to the list ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on October 24, 2017, 04:01:40 pm
Welcome to the forums! Sounds like an awesome suggestion - Do you have a particular recording you accessed on YouTube or a transcript you used? Would love to add it to the list ;D

Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa7icmqgsow
I also accessed a copy of the transcipt: http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/speech-on-the-challenger-disaster/
This transcript also included a copy of Ronald Regens speech that he made three days later at the memorial service for the seven astronaughts. I also found this helped
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Annie657 on October 24, 2017, 06:12:24 pm
If i might make a suggestion to the related texts, one that i found that was quite interesting is Ronald Regens seech regarding the NASA space shuttle "challenger" in 1986. It was his speech addressing the nation following the shuttles explosion 73 seconds after take off. He sits there, lamenting the great quest the astronauts undertook and talks about how it is a human instinct to discover and push the boundaries of what we know which make it not a bad related text for discovery. It has some good themes like bravery in face of the unknown as well.
I don't know if it it'll actually be of any use to anyone, but feel free to add it. If it helps just one person then i'll be happy! I found it pretty good because its only 4 minutes long which is really good if you have an exam coming up soon and you still don't have a related text.


Omg I used this in my hsc last week! So easy to use :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on October 24, 2017, 06:27:34 pm
Omg I used this in my hsc last week! So easy to use :)
Do you reckon you could send me a copy of your notes regarding it?? Just for me to use to compare to my own
Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 24, 2017, 07:11:40 pm
Omg I used this in my hsc last week! So easy to use :)

Or better yet, click the link in my signature and pop them into the Notes section for everyone to benefit from! ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on October 30, 2017, 09:28:36 am
Helloo
I was directed here the other day from the std english thread but i couldn't see any non-fiction texts here?? Can anyone make some suggestions?
It's for a folio task and I just need help choosing the right ones...

Thanks heaps!!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 30, 2017, 09:30:18 am
Helloo
I was directed here the other day from the std english thread but i couldn't see any non-fiction texts here?? Can anyone make some suggestions?
It's for a folio task and I just need help choosing the right ones...

Thanks heaps!!!

You've got some documentaries, biographies, essays and such in the list up there, those are non-fiction! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on October 30, 2017, 09:48:21 am
True- duh!!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on October 30, 2017, 03:57:59 pm
Do you reckon you could send me a copy of your notes regarding it?? Just for me to use to compare to my own
Thanks!
Or better yet, click the link in my signature and pop them into the Notes section for everyone to benefit from! ;D
I was wondering where i could access these notes??
Not just these ones specifically, but all the study notes on offer for everything
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 30, 2017, 05:14:57 pm
I was wondering where i could access these notes??
Not just these ones specifically, but all the study notes on offer for everything

You can search the database by clicking on the Notes tab, top left if you are looking at the site on the website ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: rtmukheibir18 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:21 am
Hi!
I'm currently in the process of choosing ORTs for Module 1, with an forum style assessment coming up soon.
My prescribed text is The Tempest, and these are my ideas for ORTS:
o   Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (novel)
o   The Messenger (novel)
o   Her (film)
o   Juno (film)
o   Jasper Jones (novel)
•   Infinitely Polar Bear (film)

I'm just very unsure which would link best with the prescribed text. I had settled on Extremely Loud and Incredibly close but I'm a little concerned about how much it contains, and if it's relatable at all to the prescribed?
I also really like Her, but am unsure if that's a good idea for a ORT.

Thanks!

(Sidenote: I'm also doing Ext. 1. for English, and my module for that is After the Bomb, so having a text which covers both of those might be a big help!)



Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 01, 2017, 04:09:39 pm
Hi!
I'm currently in the process of choosing ORTs for Module 1, with an forum style assessment coming up soon.
My prescribed text is The Tempest, and these are my ideas for ORTS:
o   Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (novel)
o   The Messenger (novel)
o   Her (film)
o   Juno (film)
o   Jasper Jones (novel)
•   Infinitely Polar Bear (film)

I'm just very unsure which would link best with the prescribed text. I had settled on Extremely Loud and Incredibly close but I'm a little concerned about how much it contains, and if it's relatable at all to the prescribed?
I also really like Her, but am unsure if that's a good idea for a ORT.

Thanks!

(Sidenote: I'm also doing Ext. 1. for English, and my module for that is After the Bomb, so having a text which covers both of those might be a big help!)
Look, im not going to be able to tell you which one is the best to use. But my advice is to choose something that you will enjoy studying and reading/watching multiple times. Doing something you don't like will ultimately impact your ability to write a good response
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on November 01, 2017, 05:49:48 pm
Hi!
I'm currently in the process of choosing ORTs for Module 1, with an forum style assessment coming up soon.
My prescribed text is The Tempest, and these are my ideas for ORTS:
o   Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (novel)
o   The Messenger (novel)
o   Her (film)
o   Juno (film)
o   Jasper Jones (novel)
•   Infinitely Polar Bear (film)

I'm just very unsure which would link best with the prescribed text. I had settled on Extremely Loud and Incredibly close but I'm a little concerned about how much it contains, and if it's relatable at all to the prescribed?
I also really like Her, but am unsure if that's a good idea for a ORT.

Thanks!

(Sidenote: I'm also doing Ext. 1. for English, and my module for that is After the Bomb, so having a text which covers both of those might be a big help!)

Welcome to the forums! Some great advice above - This guide might be helpful to help you choose! ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: rtmukheibir18 on November 01, 2017, 06:01:20 pm
Look, im not going to be able to tell you which one is the best to use. But my advice is to choose something that you will enjoy studying and reading/watching multiple times. Doing something you don't like will ultimately impact your ability to write a good response

Thanks so much!
Welcome to the forums! Some great advice above - This guide might be helpful to help you choose! ;D

this looks really good! thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: CyberScopes on November 04, 2017, 03:25:54 am
If I were to suggest a related text - and what I used for my HSC throughout the year - I would suggest the short film Shelter. I think the fact is that the moral of the short film resonated well with me and I had a firm grasp of what the short film was trying to convey. In fact, Ive watched the short film so many times and liked it so much that by the time I went into my exam I didn't need to recall specifically preset techniques or quotes, since I could just pick whatever scene and analyse it on the spot.

I dont think its ever been used before, but i think its quite a nice choice especially if your aiming to go for a sense of discovery through emotions and emotional interactions.

PS If anyone needs some analysis of a few quotes for that short film, I can write them up, just let me know
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 05, 2017, 09:45:07 pm
If I were to suggest a related text - and what I used for my HSC throughout the year - I would suggest the short film Shelter. I think the fact is that the moral of the short film resonated well with me and I had a firm grasp of what the short film was trying to convey. In fact, Ive watched the short film so many times and liked it so much that by the time I went into my exam I didn't need to recall specifically preset techniques or quotes, since I could just pick whatever scene and analyse it on the spot.

I dont think its ever been used before, but i think its quite a nice choice especially if your aiming to go for a sense of discovery through emotions and emotional interactions.

PS If anyone needs some analysis of a few quotes for that short film, I can write them up, just let me know

You could pop it over on the related text suggestions thread for other people to check out.
I'll check out this film soon. Can i just google "shelter" and it'll come up or what?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: CyberScopes on November 06, 2017, 10:06:32 am
You could pop it over on the related text suggestions thread for other people to check out.
I'll check out this film soon. Can i just google "shelter" and it'll come up or what?

Yeah, youtube
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on November 06, 2017, 05:26:31 pm
If I were to suggest a related text - and what I used for my HSC throughout the year - I would suggest the short film Shelter. I think the fact is that the moral of the short film resonated well with me and I had a firm grasp of what the short film was trying to convey. In fact, Ive watched the short film so many times and liked it so much that by the time I went into my exam I didn't need to recall specifically preset techniques or quotes, since I could just pick whatever scene and analyse it on the spot.

I dont think its ever been used before, but i think its quite a nice choice especially if your aiming to go for a sense of discovery through emotions and emotional interactions.

PS If anyone needs some analysis of a few quotes for that short film, I can write them up, just let me know

Hey there! Thanks SO much for your suggestion. I'm sure students of the coming cohort will see this and find it very useful!
If you have any notes or essays on this, we'd love for you to upload them to the "Notes" tab at the very top there for students of the coming cohort to use :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on November 07, 2017, 11:41:12 am
Hey! Just wondering if anyone on here has used a speech of Barak Obama's?
I was thinking particularly of the his Inaugural speech, but if anyone has any other ideas on speeches- can u let me know???

Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 07, 2017, 05:32:50 pm
Hey! Just wondering if anyone on here has used a speech of Barak Obama's?
I was thinking particularly of the his Inaugural speech, but if anyone has any other ideas on speeches- can u let me know???

Thanks ;D
I don't know about any of barack obama's speeches, but i found a speech by Ronald Regen regarding the challenger disaster which i reckon would be a solid related text!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on November 07, 2017, 09:01:44 pm
Ok, great! I will check that out now.
Thanks heaps for your help!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: theyam on November 10, 2017, 09:26:35 am
hey guys,

Does anyone know some good related texts that can be paired with Robery Gray of poetry?

From theyam
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on November 10, 2017, 11:56:09 am
Hey :)
Just wondering what robert frost poem would directly relate to the Speech on the Disaster Challenge?
I was thinking of maybe doing the 'Tuft of Flowers' but I wasn't sure if it was a very good choice...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on November 10, 2017, 12:40:01 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the Speech on the Disaster Challenge?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on November 10, 2017, 03:37:14 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the Speech on the Disaster Challenge?

I believe it is this speech (also linked in the OP) ;D

Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 10, 2017, 06:21:03 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the Speech on the Disaster Challenge?
It was a speech by American President, Ronald Regen regarding the NASA shuttle challenger, which exploded 90 seconds after being launched. He made the speech during a national address regarding the disaster.
Jamon posted a link to the actual speech above ^^^^
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: LDDTRB on November 10, 2017, 09:14:42 pm
I'm trying to find a song for discovery. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 16, 2017, 09:24:54 pm
Okay, so im trying to find a related text for "wheather a discovery is unexpected or emerges from careful planning it can still reveal suprising consequences" Can anyone help??
Elyse-can you recconmend a good one from the list?
Im also looking for a text that has this in it, but also has other types of discoveries (something well rounded) to use throughout my hsc
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: ilovemycat on November 16, 2017, 10:34:40 pm
Okay, so im trying to find a related text for "wheather a discovery is unexpected or emerges from careful planning it can still reveal suprising consequences" Can anyone help??
Elyse-can you recconmend a good one from the list?
Im also looking for a text that has this in it, but also has other types of discoveries (something well rounded) to use throughout my hsc

Hi there :)

I'm doing Bill Brysons 'A short history of nearly everything,' that is basically a novel about various scientific discoveries and their impact on society. i think it could work well for your question, as it critiques the objectivity of science and instead champions that discovery is a much more organic and haphazard process. It does this by giving us the personal and more human side of famous scientists and their discoveries - like newtons 'discovery' of gravity and some other guys discovery of a tpe of bacteria in our gut - suggesting that discoveries are not at all predictable or measureable, as the nature of science is, but rather more spontaneous. Its a great text to compare the two types of disovery - planned and unplanned.

Hope this helps in some way  :)

Mish
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 17, 2017, 05:02:32 pm
Hi there :)

I'm doing Bill Brysons 'A short history of nearly everything,' that is basically a novel about various scientific discoveries and their impact on society. i think it could work well for your question, as it critiques the objectivity of science and instead champions that discovery is a much more organic and haphazard process. It does this by giving us the personal and more human side of famous scientists and their discoveries - like newtons 'discovery' of gravity and some other guys discovery of a tpe of bacteria in our gut - suggesting that discoveries are not at all predictable or measureable, as the nature of science is, but rather more spontaneous. Its a great text to compare the two types of disovery - planned and unplanned.

Hope this helps in some way  :)

Mish
Thanks, i'll check it out!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: bundahboy on November 17, 2017, 05:12:32 pm
Hi there :)

I'm doing Bill Brysons 'A short history of nearly everything,' that is basically a novel about various scientific discoveries and their impact on society. i think it could work well for your question, as it critiques the objectivity of science and instead champions that discovery is a much more organic and haphazard process. It does this by giving us the personal and more human side of famous scientists and their discoveries - like newtons 'discovery' of gravity and some other guys discovery of a tpe of bacteria in our gut - suggesting that discoveries are not at all predictable or measureable, as the nature of science is, but rather more spontaneous. Its a great text to compare the two types of disovery - planned and unplanned.

Hope this helps in some way  :)

Mish

As A Short History of Nearly Everything is a prescribed text, some say that using it as a related (if you're doing a different AoS prescribed) would be frowned upon by markers. The verdict isn't conclusive on this, though it is something you should be aware of.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on November 17, 2017, 06:10:42 pm
As A Short History of Nearly Everything is a prescribed text, some say that using it as a related (if you're doing a different AoS prescribed) would be frowned upon by markers. The verdict isn't conclusive on this, though it is something you should be aware of.
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Why the hell is it frowned upon?????
I think its a really smart idea because there's already tones of resources on it because its been studied lots of times before!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: CyberScopes on November 17, 2017, 10:31:02 pm
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Why the hell is it frowned upon?????
I think its a really smart idea because there's already tones of resources on it because its been studied lots of times before!!

Had a teacher as senior marker who also discouraged using prescribed texts as related (in fact we werent allowed). Still dont know why really, I guess cause theres already too many detailed resources for it anyway (maybe..?)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on November 18, 2017, 12:45:24 am
NESA themselves say this is fine, and I think Elyse has even chatted to them about it over the phone. It is 100% fine and 100% not frowned upon.

I think why it could be discouraged by teachers is that it might not be as good as a decision as picking something else. Like, going straight to a prescribed is ignoring lots of other great options, some of which might work better for you. You shouldn't pick a prescribed purely to make your life easier, you should pick it because it works well with what you are studying ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: LegalEagle24/7 on November 18, 2017, 08:37:49 am
This resource is under construction.
One of the most enduring questions in Area of Study: What's a good related text?
If you aren't quite sure what constitutes a great related text, then check out our guide to picking a related text here - we've answered a lot of frequently asked questions, too!

So below we've compiled a list of over 50 related texts that have been tried and tested. All of these related texts have been brought forward by students - except for a few that I have viewed/read myself and thought it would be perfect for discovery. Where possible, we've attached a brief synopsis so you can get an idea about whether or not you'll like the text. We've also attached some helpful links from the web to help you get on your way to studying the text. Just click on the tabs below to open up the resources. We've organised them into media type, in case you have a preference!

If you have a related text that you'd like to add to the list, we'd love for you to comment the name, what you thought of it, and even any helpful links. We want to create this resource in a way that makes it uber helpful to current and future students, and student input is the best way we can achieve that.

Short Stories:
Spoiler
Tim Winton’s Distant lands
Where can it be found?
You can pick up Distant Lands in Tim Winton's anthology of short stories, Minimum of Two. I got it for about $15 at my local book store, and it's available on iBooks and probably at most local or school libraries. Tim Winton is a well known Australian author, so it's usually not too hard to track down his work.
Brief synopsis
in Distant Lands, a girl named Fat Maz works in her parent's news-agency in what appears to be a dull and non-stimulating country environment. Her days are bland, her father is a racist, her mother is a bore. They go home in the lunch hour, but Fat Maz stays to watch the shop. A Pakistani man enters the shop in that lunch hour to read a book called Distant Lands. He never buys it, but puts it back after the hour and leaves before Fat Maz's parents return. They never talk. *Spoiler alert* Until the end, when he gives her a $50 note (that has more significance back then than what it does now). The money is symbolic of new perspectives, and the book "Distant Lands" is a motif as well.
Ideas explored
-Discovering new perspectives
-Discovering new worlds
-A change in environment being a catalyst for discovery
-Emotional, intellectual and physical discoveries.
-Transformative discoveries.
-Many more
Resources
You can read my band 6 essay for AOS using Distant Lands here.

Tim Winton’s Neighbours
Where can you find it?
This TIm Winton short story can be found in the short story anthology called Scission. Most book stores sell this for about $15, and it is available on iBooks. Most libraries will have Tim Winton's work. Here's a copy I found on the web.
Synopsis
A young married couple move into a street that has a high population of Europeans (Italians, Maltese, Polish etc). The couple are hesitant at first and appear to be complete outsiders. In time, they realise how helpful and kind these people are, and they realise that they are all just humans. The cultures melt together in a really beautiful way.
Ideas explored
-Discovering new perspectives
-Outlooks and perspectives being challenged
-Discovering intellectually, and emotionally.
-Renewed perceptions leading to new outlooks.
-Transformative nature of discovery
-+more
Resources
Here's a summary I found online that might give you some helpful language. By the same author, here's a character analysis!

Kate Chopin’s The Story of an Hour
Where can I find it?
Riiiiiiight here!
Synopsis
This story was originally published in Vogue in the 1894. It is about a sickly wife with a heart condition. She's told that her husband has died, causing her to grieve heavily and then imagine an entire new life of freedom for herself. With acknowledgement to the sadness her husband's death brings, she's caught up in the positive ramifications this could have. *Spoiler alert* She comes to terms with this very new positive life very quickly, although she loved her husband, she loved the prospect of freedom. She leaves her bedroom after grieving, and goes downstairs to realise her husband is still alive. She gets such a shock that she dies.
Ideas explored
-Discovery that is emotional, creative, physical, spiritual and intellectual.
-Discovering new perspectives.
-Tragedy as a prompt for discovery
-Transformative nature of discovery
-Unplanned/planned nature of discovery
Resources
There are some wonderful resources out there on this short story, starting with Schmoop. Schmoop is always a great place to start because they take you from summary to analysis. SparkNotes does something similar here as well! Here's another more random resource that's worth checking out! Here's a link to a location with a bunch of essays on this short story.

The Necklace by Guy de Maupassant
Where can it be found?
The full text can be found here!
Synopsis
This is not the shortest of short stories, but it's a goodie. Basically, a woman is dissatisfied with her lowly economic status, which is comfortable but nothing extravagant. She's been married into a middle income situation and she's so dissatisfied. Her husband brings home an invitation one day to a fancy event, but she says to decline because she doesn't have a nice dress. So the husband arranges for her to have a lovely dress at the cost of 400 francs. Then, she finds that she is still dissatisfied because she doesn't have jewels. The husband tries to convince her to wear flowers, but she insists on jewels. So she borrows some from a wealthy Madame. She goes to the ball, she's intoxicated by the attention she received for being the most beautiful woman in the room. As she walks home, she realises she's lost the necklace. Her husband retraces the steps through the night but finds nothing. So they work extremely hard to find $36,000 to pay for a new diamond necklace. They mortgage the rest of their lives out, and live in poverty and dismay. Years onwards, the wife meets Madame in the street; Madame doesn't recognise her. The wife explains how she's lived a life in debt and turmoil because of the lost necklace, and Madame tells her at the end that it was only costume jewellery. She'd thrown away her life for nothing.
Resources
As always, SparkNotes has you covered! Schmoop does too! This resource here dissects the themes in the text. This resource is excellent for dissecting situational irony and conflict. This text is not short of resources!

The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe
Where can I get a copy?
It was written in 1843, so the world wide web has it available for free viewing here!
Synopsis
I'll start by saying that I'm not a huge fan of Poe's work, but I think this piece is wonderfully mad.
Here's a summary I've taken directly from SparkNotes: "An unnamed narrator opens the story by addressing the reader and claiming that he is nervous but not mad. He says that he is going to tell a story in which he will defend his sanity yet confess to having killed an old man. His motivation was neither passion nor desire for money, but rather a fear of the man’s pale blue eye. Again, he insists that he is not crazy because his cool and measured actions, though criminal, are not those of a madman. Every night, he went to the old man’s apartment and secretly observed the man sleeping. In the morning, he would behave as if everything were normal. After a week of this activity, the narrator decides, somewhat randomly, that the time is right actually to kill the old man."
How does this work with discovery?
-The reader makes a discovery as the story unfolds
-The narrator is coming to terms with a type of discovery at the same time as the reader.
-The idea of truth, and the struggle of truth, is paramount to discovery.
Resources
Obviously, SparkNotes has some great perspective on this text. Schmoop has also got you covered. CliffsNotes also has some perspective on this. Lastly, this resource really breaks down a lot of the techniques, which is always important.

Graphic Novels/Comic Books/Picture Books
Spoiler
Peter Sis’s The Wall: Growing up Behind the Iron Curtain
Where can you get this?
Amazon has copies of this for about $12. My school library had a copy, which is how I came across it (it was actually brought to my attention as a related text for After the Bomb in Extension 1 English). Definitely check out your school or local library before buying a copy. Here's a quick google image search on what the pages of the book look like - so you know.
What's it about?
Basically, the author Peter, was growing up on in Soviet-controlled Czech in the Cold War. The graphic novel explains how his life was in that time. Colour is used mostly (everything black and white with accents of red). It's a real joy to read and it's not very long. Towards the end, influences from the West come floating over the wall...Peter hears about Coca Cola and American Music. So the pages turn to bright colour as the Berlin wall is dismantled. It's a really good book and you can definitely read it in one sitting - about 10 minutes. The most important aspect, at least in my own reading, is that Peter is an artist. He's been drawing for as long as he can remember - even in a place where it was dangerous to draw.
Discovery?
This book works for discovery on a few levels. The idea of perception is challenged as new ideas are discovered. The impact that an environment has on discoveries is potent in this book. The discoveries in the book are transformative in nature, and largely unplanned.
Resources please?
Here's a write up from the New York Times. Here is an interview with the author of the book. And here is the author explaining what is happening on some of the pages. And for what it's worth, here's the blurb from Peter's website.

Shaun Tan’s The Lost Thing (this is also a short film and a play)
Where can I get it?
Here is the direct link to the magical site of The Lost Thing. Here is the animated version.
What's it about?
The YouTube animation describes the plot like this: "A boy finds a strange creature on a beach, and decides to find a home for it in a world where everyone believes there are far more important things to pay attention to."
Discovery
This text worked well for belonging and it'll work well for discovery. The initial experience of discovery is the unplanned nature, when the boy comes across the Thing on the beach. From there, it's a pleasant unravelling of discoveries. The discovery of other people's perceptions is the one that sticks out the most to me. Also, the way that a discovery, like the physical discovery of the Thing, can prompt emotional, intellectual, spiritual and creative discoveries and changes within an individual.
Resources:
If you don't mind reading lesson plans, this resource is genuinely really good for breaking down the text for the first time. Here's another great gold mine for resources on this one! Here's an interview from the State Library of Victoria where Shaun Tan talks about the Lost Thing. There's lots and lots out there on this!

Armin Greder’s The Island

The Violin Man, by Bill Bryson and Colin Thompson

Films (including short films)
Spoiler
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (also a novel)
23 Degrees, 5 minutes (YouTube)
Slumdog Millionaire
Kim Ho’s The Language of Love
Jane Campion’s the Piano
Little Miss Sunshine - Jonathan Dayton
The Butterfly Circus - Joshua Weigel
The Book Thief - Brian Percival
Where do Lilacs Come from? By Matthew Thorne
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
Spirited Away by Hayako Miyazaki
Christopher Kezelos’ Zero

Still visuals
Spoiler
Picasso - Guernica
Rene Magritte - The Treachery of Images
The Savage State by Thomas Cole

Novels/Novellas
Spoiler
Charles Dickens - Great Expectations
Where can I get it?
You can get this one free on iBooks, but it's a very long text to read from a screen. I read it in paperback.
What's it about?
This is a bildungsroman text - a text that deals with someone's formative years. Pip is a young boy of lowly status who falls into extraordinary circumstances. Pip grows to realise things aren't as they seem (I'm simplifying the story massively - it's one of those stories where everything falls together in ways you could never imagine).
What's it got to do with Discovery?
The story follows someone who actually goes to where the grass is greener, only to realise that it is in fact, not greener. It's a perfect story for discovery new perspectives, challenging old perspectives, discovery emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and creatively, as well as planned and unplanned discoveries. This text, out of all of the ones I've read myself, has the most discovery to unpack.
Some resources please!
Well, we always start with SparkNotes. And then we move to Schmoop. This book review is also pretty handy. You can't read the entire thing unless you sign in, but the preview offers a lot of good analysis on women in the text. And here is a PDF about approaching Great Expectations, as well as some analysis.

John Le Carre - The Spy who Came in from the Cold
What's it about?
The SPy Who Came in from the Cold is a Cold War Espionage novel by John Le Carre - a famous writer in this genre. This is a prescribed text for the Extension 1 English After the Bomb elective. I read it myself, and the genre wasn't my cup of tea, but I cried at the end and I definitely didn't see that coming. The text is quite meaningful and can be enjoyed for it's value on humanism - or its espionage value. Basically, a spy finds himself a pawn in a much bigger game (called the Cold War) and he is tied up with how romance, and state loyalty, can interact. At least, this is the way I see the text. A espionage aficionado would see it differently! :)
What's it got to do with Discovery?
There's a lot of discovering to do in terms of emotions...purpose...and value. There's a lot of physical discoveries too, given that it is in a spy-situation. There's a lot to unpack with this text.
Where are some resources?
There are hundreds of resources on this one, lots of reviews, lots of opinions, etc. Here's a few to get you started:
Here is a summary and guide from Bookrags.
Here's a sort-of opinion piece published to the Guardian.
If you're looking for something more complicated, here is a structuralist reading.

George Orwell’s Animal Farm
Elizabeth Gilbert’s Eat, Pray, Love
Margaret Atwood’s The Vanishing Child
Stephen Cosky’s The Perks of Being a Wallflower (also a film)
Mark Zusak’s The Messenger (2002)
William Golding’s The Lord of the Flies
The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
The Book Thief Markus Zucak

Documentaries
Spoiler
Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant’s comedy travelogue: An Idiot Abroad

Poetry
Spoiler
Robert Frost -The Road Not Taken
Seamus Heaney - Digging
Seamus Heaney - Mid Term Break
Sylvia Plath - Ariel
Margaret Atwood - The Moment
Margaret Atwood - Journey to the Interior
Barn Owl - Gwen Harwood
Peter Skrzynecki’s Crossing the Red Sea
Peter Skrzynecki’s Leaving Home
Darius Simpson and Scout Bostley’s spoken word poem Lost Voices (2015)
Cut - Sylvia Plath
The Good Morrow - John Donne

Biographies
Spoiler
Malala Yousafzai’s I am Malala

Multimedia
Spoiler
The Boat - SBS
Clouds over Sidra - UN
Brandon Stanton: Humans of NY
Where can I access this?
The link to the offical blog is here but you probably know that HONY is on Facebook and Instagram as well. Facebook is important. As you discuss this text, you could discuss the use of social media and interactivity as a technique for discovery in itself. If you want to be more specific, you can actually focus on a particular series that HONY has conducted, you can find the different series here.
Synopsis
I have to say, this is one of my highest recommendations for related texts. It's innovative, it's never a bore to analyse, and you can be as specific or broad as you like (meaning, you could spend ten minutes reading the text or the whole year). Each story gives a little insight into the life of someone. The series unify the experience, bringing the discovery together in a stronger way. I can't give much of a synopsis seeing as every photo is so different, but if you have a look on the blog site, you'll understand.
Discovery
Again, this is diversified. The reader almost always discovers, and usually the topic being discussed is a moment of epiphany or discovery for the individual.
Resources:
This text lacks in resources of the Schmoop kind, so to say. But, I really don't think you need them. Each individual photo has it's own devices, each speech has it's own flair. You can pick and choose what you want to talk about, there's so much variety. If you're into playing the Devil's Advocate, there's lots of criticism for HONY online. Here's an article I like though, about the way audience's are affected by HONY.


Speeches
Spoiler
Hugh Evan’s TED Talk - Global Citizenship
The Fringe Benefits of Failure and the Importance of Imagination by JK Rowling
Ronald Reagan: Challenger Speech (Recording)(Transcript)

Drama/Plays
Spoiler
Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot
Oscar Wilde’s the Importance of Being Ernest

Essays
Spoiler
George Orwell’s Shooting an Elephant

English Teacher's Association Resource
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This is a resource I found online from the ETA. It suggests some related texts, but also suggests ways to go about approaching them. It might be useful for you! If you think it might be worth it, the link is here.

Hi  :D
thanks so much for this resource; it's a major help! However, I would have liked to view the Teacher's Association Resource but the link no longer works. :(
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Natasha.97 on November 18, 2017, 10:02:08 am
Hi  :D
thanks so much for this resource; it's a major help! However, I would have liked to view the Teacher's Association Resource but the link no longer works. :(

Hi!

I think it is either this or this :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: LegalEagle24/7 on November 18, 2017, 11:06:41 am
Hi!

I think it is either this or this :)

Hi!
thanks  :D Finally I can get started  :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Breanna C on November 18, 2017, 08:31:44 pm
Hi,
I have decided to use The English Patient as my related text for discovery. I was wondering if anyone had an analysis on it as I do have some but I feel as though I am missing bit or parts of the novel that could further be explored.
Thank you for the help,
Breanna
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: 31chuntinn on December 10, 2017, 05:26:48 pm
My prescribed text for AOS discovery is Frank Hurley, the man who made history. My teacher has suggested Kafka’s Metamorphosis as the related text.

I was told I should write something on what make us human. Can anybody give me some ideas on Frank Hurley which relate to the theme of what make us human?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: bowiemily on December 31, 2017, 03:36:34 pm
NESA themselves say this is fine, and I think Elyse has even chatted to them about it over the phone. It is 100% fine and 100% not frowned upon.

I think why it could be discouraged by teachers is that it might not be as good as a decision as picking something else. Like, going straight to a prescribed is ignoring lots of other great options, some of which might work better for you. You shouldn't pick a prescribed purely to make your life easier, you should pick it because it works well with what you are studying ;D

Hey! I realise that this is replying to something posted a while ago, but I just wanted to weigh in.
Ultimately, the people marking your hsc will be teachers. Though NESA says that they're fine with it, I'd wager that most HSC teachers would not be okay with using a prescribed text as an ORT. This is because the whole point of an ORT is to differentiate your argument from other essays. If you use a prescribed text (and likely, the same line of analysis that is used by a lot of people studying it), your essay is not going to stand out. It is likely to give your marker a bad impression, and unless you've written an absolutely out of this world astonishing essay, I think it would effect your marks.
In saying that though, you can use texts from composers that have been prescribed. For example, I used Personal Helicon by Seamus Heaney - a prescribed poet. This particular poem, however, was not prescribed. In the same way, you may use Animal Farm by Orwell, but not 1984 (Module A Prescribed).
All in all, I would always, always advise against using a prescribed text. Losing a single mark could be the difference between a band five and a band six - that doesn't seem worth the convenience of studying a prescribed to me.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on January 08, 2018, 02:10:05 pm
Hello  :) just wondering if anyone could help me on what Frost poem would link best with the short story 'The Story of an Hour'?? I tend to think that Home Burial links in some ways but I just need a second opinion...
Thanks heaps!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Christine2468 on January 12, 2018, 08:37:41 pm
Hi, sorry, I was wondering if a good related text for Discovery could be: Adichie’s 2009 short story, The thing around your neck?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 12, 2018, 09:16:32 pm
Hi, sorry, I was wondering if a good related text for Discovery could be: Adichie’s 2009 short story, The thing around your neck?

Thanks,
Seems like a good idea.
Remember, that most texts can be used as a related texts, if you know where to look for references to discovery and thats especially easy if you enjoy the story! Just do a bit of research around it, and make some notes about it, then run them by your english teacher to get their opinion
I found this essay that includes your text by just typing it into google and adding "discovery" to it

Good luck!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Christine2468 on January 12, 2018, 10:27:19 pm
Oh ok, thankyou! Also I've written an essay based on a particular question, my core text and my first related text, Boy in the Striped Pajamas. And I was wondering whether you believe that I should write a general essay on my core text and my second related text, The thing around your neck? Thanks, 
Seems like a good idea.
Remember, that most texts can be used as a related texts, if you know where to look for references to discovery and thats especially easy if you enjoy the story! Just do a bit of research around it, and make some notes about it, then run them by your english teacher to get their opinion
I found this essay that includes your text by just typing it into google and adding "discovery" to it

Good luck!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 12, 2018, 11:32:59 pm
Oh ok, thankyou! Also I've written an essay based on a particular question, my core text and my first related text, Boy in the Striped Pajamas. And I was wondering whether you believe that I should write a general essay on my core text and my second related text, The thing around your neck? Thanks,
You definitely should! Then get people to compare them, and decide on whichever one is better, and that you enjoy talking about!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Christine2468 on January 13, 2018, 07:46:06 pm
Oh ok, thanks also sorry, I was wondering if it was possible to message or PM a marker my first, Boy in the Striped Pajamas essay, as I don't necessarily feel comfortable posting my essay on a forum? Thanks,
You definitely should! Then get people to compare them, and decide on whichever one is better, and that you enjoy talking about!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: emilyygeorgexx on January 13, 2018, 08:49:53 pm
Hey!

So I am currently in the process of writing my AOS Essay and have found the related text I want to do. It's J.K. Rowling's Speech "The Fringe Benefits of Failure and the Importance of Imagination".

Recently I discovered it is on the Standard English Module C prescribed text list and I understand we can't use prescribed texts as our ORT (well at least at my school we aren't). However, it is a prescribed text for the new HSC English Syllabus not the current one we are studying.

Do you think I can still use it because technically that syllabus isn't implemented for our year?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 13, 2018, 08:50:32 pm
Oh ok, thanks also sorry, I was wondering if I could message or PM you or another marker my first, Boy in the Striped Pajamas essay, as I don't necessarily feel comfortable posting my essay on a forum? Thanks,
Sure! don't know when i'll get the chance to look at it though, but you certainly can. i also am not the best with marking english essays, but i'll try my best!
Some other people i can recconmend PMing it too are elysepopplewell and opengangs both of them i cannot recconmend highly enough for marking!  :)
Be sure to send it to them to. Also, when you do, make sure you mention that i directed you to them and you have an essay you'd like marked.
Can i also ask, why do you not feel comfortable posting your essay on the forum, if you don't mind me asking? :)


Hey!

So I am currently in the process of writing my AOS Essay and have found the related text I want to do. It's J.K. Rowling's Speech "The Fringe Benefits of Failure and the Importance of Imagination".

Recently I discovered it is on the Standard English Module C prescribed text list and I understand we can't use prescribed texts as our ORT. However, it is a prescribed text for the new HSC English Syllabus not the current one we are studying.

Do you think I can still use it because technically that syllabus isn't implemented for our year?

Thanks!!
Don't quote me word for word on this but, im guessing most of the hsc markers will already know this is a perscribed text in the new syllabus.
Also, there's no rule that says you cannot use texts perscribed from other modules as related texts, just thats its not highly recconmended.
this link may also help to answer your question!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Christine2468 on January 13, 2018, 08:58:34 pm
Oh ok and sure, thankyou!! Also, its mainly due to plagarism, in terms of being asked whether I plagarised and another student using the particular essay.
 Thanks,
Sure! don't know when i'll get the chance to look at it though, but you certainly can. i also am not the best with marking english essays, but i'll try my best!
Some other people i can recconmend PMing it too are elysepopplewell and opengangs both of them i cannot recconmend highly enough for marking!  :)
Be sure to send it to them to. Also, when you do, make sure you mention that i directed you to them and you have an essay you'd like marked.
Can i also ask, why do you not feel comfortable posting your essay on the forum, if you don't mind me asking? :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: emilyygeorgexx on January 13, 2018, 09:03:25 pm

Don't quote me word for word on this but, im guessing most of the hsc markers will already know this is a perscribed text in the new syllabus.
Also, there's no rule that says you cannot use texts perscribed from other modules as related texts, just thats its not highly recconmended.
this link may also help to answer your question!

Ah thanks! I just don't want to spend my time writing an essay if I know I can't use it as a related text. My school has a strict policy against using any related texts from the prescribed list for any module. I've seen a few others use the same RT on here as me so maybe it might be okay???

I might wait for some other opinions and see what people say :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 13, 2018, 11:27:18 pm
Hey!

So I am currently in the process of writing my AOS Essay and have found the related text I want to do. It's J.K. Rowling's Speech "The Fringe Benefits of Failure and the Importance of Imagination".

Recently I discovered it is on the Standard English Module C prescribed text list and I understand we can't use prescribed texts as our ORT (well at least at my school we aren't). However, it is a prescribed text for the new HSC English Syllabus not the current one we are studying.

Do you think I can still use it because technically that syllabus isn't implemented for our year?

Thanks!!

You can definitely 100% use this text, and the fact that it will be prescribed in the future would suggest that it is a good choice! ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on January 15, 2018, 10:01:42 am
Hello  :) just wondering if anyone could help me on what Frost poem would link best with the short story 'The Story of an Hour'?? I tend to think that Home Burial links in some ways but I just need a second opinion...
Thanks heaps!
Does anyone have any ideas on this?
Thanks...
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: cnimm2000 on January 20, 2018, 11:35:42 pm
Hey guys,
For my related text i keep going back and forth. There is one text that i was thinking about using which is the novel To kill a Mockingbird. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts about this text and any recommendations
thanks :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 21, 2018, 08:46:31 am
Hey guys,
For my related text i keep going back and forth. There is one text that i was thinking about using which is the novel To kill a Mockingbird. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts about this text and any recommendations
thanks :)
Personally, i've never read "to kill a mockingbird". But choosing a related text is definitely a very personal choice. Ask yourself: Do you thoroughly enjoy this book? Do you think you will enjoy studying it in depth? Will studying it too much bore you and cause you to loose intrest?
If you answered yes to the first two, and no to the last one, then this is probably a good text to use.
Also consider your perscribed. Is it a story? If it is then doing a story for a related isn't the best way to go. It is usually best to do two different contrasting text types (E.g my perscribed was the tempest, a play so i did a short story as a related).
If you're still stuck for ideas, then the list at the beginning of this thread would be a good place to start. You can find that Here

Hope this helps!  :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 21, 2018, 04:22:22 pm
Hi...

Is it acceptable to have a TV show episode as a related text? I have a gut feeling that it is either not allowed/not a good idea, but there are so many TV shows I can think of that would link in really well with discovery... :-\
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Opengangs on January 21, 2018, 04:25:22 pm
Hi...

Is it acceptable to have a TV show episode as a related text? I have a gut feeling that it is either not allowed/not a good idea, but there are so many TV shows I can think of that would link in really well with discovery... :-\
Hey,
Yep! Any medium can be used as a related text. Fun fact: I used a video game as my final related text.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 21, 2018, 04:30:52 pm
Hey,
Yep! Any medium can be used as a related text. Fun fact: I used a video game as my final related text.

Hi...
Sweet, thanks!
That's so cool about using a video game. What game was it?

And also, if I am going to do a TV show, should I stick to one episode, or one season, or something else?
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Opengangs on January 21, 2018, 04:36:27 pm
Hi...
Sweet, thanks!
That's so cool about using a video game. What game was it?

And also, if I am going to do a TV show, should I stick to one episode, or one season, or something else?
Hey, yeah! It's very difficult to talk about a video game though which is why not many decide to use them haha. I used To the Moon, which is an exploration game about a final man's wish. It's beautiful!

Hm, I've never really thought about using a TV show but if the discovery theme is evident throughout the season, I'd choose to do a season's worth. You have more to explore as well!
Good luck with it though, would be interested to see how you structure your essay around a TV show! :D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: cnimm2000 on January 21, 2018, 05:52:40 pm
Personally, i've never read "to kill a mockingbird". But choosing a related text is definitely a very personal choice. Ask yourself: Do you thoroughly enjoy this book? Do you think you will enjoy studying it in depth? Will studying it too much bore you and cause you to loose intrest?
If you answered yes to the first two, and no to the last one, then this is probably a good text to use.
Also consider your perscribed. Is it a story? If it is then doing a story for a related isn't the best way to go. It is usually best to do two different contrasting text types (E.g my perscribed was the tempest, a play so i did a short story as a related).
If you're still stuck for ideas, then the list at the beginning of this thread would be a good place to start. You can find that Here

Hope this helps!  :)

Thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on January 21, 2018, 06:46:54 pm
Thanks for the help :)
If you are still looking for information - I would definitely recommend TKAMB for a related text. Heaps of different discoveries on a few different levels, and is quite an easy read.
But do agree with what has already been said - if you are doing a novel for your prescribed, try to contrast it a bit.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: cnimm2000 on January 22, 2018, 09:20:06 am
If you are still looking for information - I would definitely recommend TKAMB for a related text. Heaps of different discoveries on a few different levels, and is quite an easy read.
But do agree with what has already been said - if you are doing a novel for your prescribed, try to contrast it a bit.

Hi
Yes my prescribed texts are poems therefore i was planning to do a novel.
I think i have finally decided to do TKAM as my related text as i feel more comfortable relating this book to discovery.
Thanks for the advice :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on January 22, 2018, 12:02:02 pm
Hi
Yes my prescribed texts are poems therefore i was planning to do a novel.
I think i have finally decided to do TKAM as my related text as i feel more comfortable relating this book to discovery.
Thanks for the advice :)
Sounds good  ;) There are tons of resources online to help with analysing TKAMB too, and I'm sure there are others on here that will be more than willing to help with any of your questions.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 25, 2018, 01:06:34 pm
Hi...
Does anyone have any particular advice when choosing a short story (as a second AOS related)? I'm finding it hard to pick one as I don't exactly know what I should be looking for... Can the discovery be completely different to the other texts? I've also been looking more at older stories - written in 1900s as the quality of analysis has tended to be a bit better with them...
Any help appreciated... Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 25, 2018, 01:39:33 pm
Hi...
Does anyone have any particular advice when choosing a short story (as a second AOS related)? I'm finding it hard to pick one as I don't exactly know what I should be looking for... Can the discovery be completely different to the other texts? I've also been looking more at older stories - written in 1900s as the quality of analysis has tended to be a bit better with them...
Any help appreciated... Thanks!
Its good to have a completely different discovery, as this opens up new pathways to argue. I'd recconmend having a look at Tim Wintons work as well. He's a well known australian author who has many short stories that are good for discovery.
Also, what is your perscribed? If it is a story, then you should be looking at text types for a related text other than stories to contrast with your prescribed

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 25, 2018, 02:42:15 pm
Its good to have a completely different discovery, as this opens up new pathways to argue. I'd recconmend having a look at Tim Wintons work as well. He's a well known australian author who has many short stories that are good for discovery.
Also, what is your perscribed? If it is a story, then you should be looking at text types for a related text other than stories to contrast with your prescribed

Hope this helps!

Hi...
My teacher changed our mod B prescribed Tim Winton (Cloud Street) to something else because she didn't think our class would like it haha.

Glad you back using a contrasting discovery - that's a lot easier to find.

My prescribed is Robert Gray poetry, so I have a film as my main related, so that's why I am looking for a short story as my 2nd related....

Thanks for all your help!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: theyam on January 26, 2018, 09:07:03 pm
Hi...
My teacher changed our mod B prescribed Tim Winton (Cloud Street) to something else because she didn't think our class would like it haha.

Glad you back using a contrasting discovery - that's a lot easier to find.

My prescribed is Robert Gray poetry, so I have a film as my main related, so that's why I am looking for a short story as my 2nd related....

Thanks for all your help!

Just wanted to say I'm also doing Robert Gray for the AOS and Tim Winton 'Cloudstreet' for Mod B.  I did not know we needed two related texts for AOS ._.  Have you read Cloudstreet yet? If so what are your thoughts?

From theyam :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: dancing phalanges on January 26, 2018, 09:20:01 pm
Hi...
My teacher changed our mod B prescribed Tim Winton (Cloud Street) to something else because she didn't think our class would like it haha.

Glad you back using a contrasting discovery - that's a lot easier to find.

My prescribed is Robert Gray poetry, so I have a film as my main related, so that's why I am looking for a short story as my 2nd related....

Thanks for all your help!

Hey Kauac!
Just wanted to give my two cents. For Robert Gray AOS, the ORT I chose was Christopher Koch's The Boys in the Island, a text I read in my prep for Ext 2 Eng. In terms of comparing the texts, I will use the examples of Journey, the North Coast and Late Ferry as these are the two poems I chose for my HSC paper. The Boys in the Island (TBITI) is similar to JTNC as it involves the rediscovery of one's childhood. TBITI is also similar to Late Ferry as both involve a discovery of the importance of withdrawing from the business of city life (in TBITI, the central character travels from the simplicity of his life in Tasmania to the alluring lights of Melbourne, as does Gray in Late Ferry. In both instances, the narrator uncovers the falsity of these lights and realises they are corrupt/detrimental to the human experience.

In regards to contrasts, you can definitely pick texts that have different types of discoveries. I probably need an example from you to see where you would be going but you can definitely link two completely different ideas through the nature of the discoveries. For instance, a text about a lonely child struggling going to school for the first time vs. a text about someone learning they have cancer for the first time - very different plots but linked for example by the fact that they are both confronting discoveries.

Hope that helped! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: melodamn on January 27, 2018, 01:08:17 am
helloooo everyone!

I made a post i know realise maybe should have been condensed and placed on this thread.
But yeah!!! I'm struggling lots with related text, so if anyone could check out my post "another pls-help-me related text thread" and forward some input?

Thanks tons!!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 27, 2018, 09:41:14 pm
Hi...

Just wanted to say I'm also doing Robert Gray for the AOS and Tim Winton 'Cloudstreet' for Mod B.  I did not know we needed two related texts for AOS ._.  Have you read Cloudstreet yet? If so what are your thoughts?

From theyam :)
I'm not actually doing Cloud Street anymore  :-\ (I probably worded the last post a bit weirdly, because my mod B prescribed changed from Cloudstreet to an assortment of speeches). I did read the first few chapters before we changed texts, and despite it not being anywhere near the kind of books I read for leisure, I found it quite intriguing... A bit of a dramatic interpretation of Australian bogan life haha!

It's cool that you are doing Robert Gray though... I haven't heard of anyone else studying him this year yet!  ;D

Also, as for the two related AOS texts, they don't always ask for two in the exam essay. It's probably a good idea to have one main related text thoroughly analysed to the most minute details, and a second 'back-up' one that you are reasonably familiar with and could easily insert into the essay. That's just from what I know, so it might be good to ask a teacher/ someone who has already done the HSC...

Hey Kauac!
Just wanted to give my two cents. For Robert Gray AOS, the ORT I chose was Christopher Koch's The Boys in the Island, a text I read in my prep for Ext 2 Eng. In terms of comparing the texts, I will use the examples of Journey, the North Coast and Late Ferry as these are the two poems I chose for my HSC paper. The Boys in the Island (TBITI) is similar to JTNC as it involves the rediscovery of one's childhood. TBITI is also similar to Late Ferry as both involve a discovery of the importance of withdrawing from the business of city life (in TBITI, the central character travels from the simplicity of his life in Tasmania to the alluring lights of Melbourne, as does Gray in Late Ferry. In both instances, the narrator uncovers the falsity of these lights and realises they are corrupt/detrimental to the human experience.

In regards to contrasts, you can definitely pick texts that have different types of discoveries. I probably need an example from you to see where you would be going but you can definitely link two completely different ideas through the nature of the discoveries. For instance, a text about a lonely child struggling going to school for the first time vs. a text about someone learning they have cancer for the first time - very different plots but linked for example by the fact that they are both confronting discoveries.

Hope that helped! :)

Thanks for the examples - they have provided a lot of clarity into knowing what to look for in the text... I'm liking the compare & contrast concept of the discoveries, and I think it will work well for making my final decision for the second related. Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: 3.14159265359 on January 30, 2018, 09:26:08 pm
hello!
(I'm not sure if this is the right thread ??? so I'm sorry if its not)


I'm doing (well I did lol) The Tempest for AOS and was tossing between these related texts, any help is appreciated. Ty!

* Gwen Harwood "Father and Child Part one: Barn Owl
* A Tropfest short film "Revive"
* Tim Winton " Neighbours"
* this short film I found on FB  https://www.facebook.com/tedtalkvideos/videos/703666509821897/


NOTE: "father and child" and "revive" are already analysed in terms of technique not in terms of discovery YET. the other two however I haven't analysed.



ALSO: my teacher did recommend "Invictus BY WILLIAM ERNEST HENLEY"
 
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 30, 2018, 09:54:19 pm
hello!
(I'm not sure if this is the right thread ??? so I'm sorry if its not)


I'm doing (well I did lol) The Tempest for AOS and was tossing between these related texts, any help is appreciated. Ty!

* Gwen Harwood "Father and Child Part one: Barn Owl
* A Tropfest short film "Revive"
* Tim Winton " Neighbours"
* this short film I found on FB  https://www.facebook.com/tedtalkvideos/videos/703666509821897/


NOTE: "father and child" and "revive" are already analysed in terms of technique not in terms of discovery YET. the other two however I haven't analysed.



ALSO: my teacher did recommend "Invictus BY WILLIAM ERNEST HENLEY"
I haven't looked at many of those texts (although that facebook video piqued my intrest) but...
I took AGES to find my related text and i finally came across tim wintons work
I would greatly recconmend him! Also check out another one of his stories "Distant Lands" as an alternative

Also, it's about personal preference, what you believe would be the best choice in your heart. If you like them all equally, then you're just going to have to pick one and roll with it!
In any case, Good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: 3.14159265359 on January 30, 2018, 10:04:39 pm
I haven't looked at many of those texts (although that facebook video piqued my intrest) but...
I took AGES to find my related text and i finally came across tim wintons work
I would greatly recconmend him! Also check out another one of his stories "Distant Lands" as an alternative

Also, it's about personal preference, what you believe would be the best choice in your heart. If you like them all equally, then you're just going to have to pick one and roll with it!
In any case, Good luck!  ;D

Thank you for your reply but I searched for distant lands but I couldn't find it anywhere. There was only an audio book available which is pre annoying :(

I know this is dumb but... even after I do chose 2 texts idk what to do after that. I don't know how to analyse it in terms of discovery. Everyone says look at the rubric but how do I use t rubric.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: kauac on January 30, 2018, 10:35:10 pm
Thank you for your reply but I searched for distant lands but I couldn't find it anywhere. There was only an audio book available which is pre annoying :(

I know this is dumb but... even after I do chose 2 texts idk what to do after that. I don't know how to analyse it in terms of discovery. Everyone says look at the rubric but how do I use t rubric.

Hi...

I was wondering about this only a few weeks ago... Thankfully I talked to my teacher, and she introduced me to a simple approach to start analysing and comparing between the prescribed and related texts. They are called TEE tables.

With these, the rubric is broken up into four aspects: process, perspectives, contextualisation and ramifications/transformations. The aim is to try and include an example, technique and effect for a few rubric points for each of the four aspects. Note: You don't need to try and 'force in' random examples from your texts to match EVERY point, as not all of them are going to be relevant for the text. E.g. You don't need a confronting and provocative discovery for Prince Charming finding that Cinderella's foot fits the glass slipper. (Sorry, it was the first thing that popped into my head  ;D).

I've attached a sample table, so feel free to check out the layout! Hope this all makes sense!  :D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on January 30, 2018, 10:44:48 pm
Thank you for your reply but I searched for distant lands but I couldn't find it anywhere. There was only an audio book available which is pre annoying :(

Your local library is worth a look! I know Distant Lands works really nicely (one of our English lecturers Elyse praises it highly) so if you can't find something else, worth a quick trip to see ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: 3.14159265359 on January 30, 2018, 10:52:10 pm
Hi...

I was wondering about this only a few weeks ago... Thankfully I talked to my teacher, and she introduced me to a simple approach to start analysing and comparing between the prescribed and related texts. They are called TEE tables.

With these, the rubric is broken up into four aspects: process, perspectives, contextualisation and ramifications/transformations. The aim is to try and include an example, technique and effect for a few rubric points for each of the four aspects. Note: You don't need to try and 'force in' random examples from your texts to match EVERY point, as not all of them are going to be relevant for the text. E.g. You don't need a confronting and provocative discovery for Prince Charming finding that Cinderella's foot fits the glass slipper. (Sorry, it was the first thing that popped into my head  ;D).

I've attached a sample table, so feel free to check out the layout! Hope this all makes sense!  :D


Thank you so much!! That really helps :)

Your local library is worth a look! I know Distant Lands works really nicely (one of our English lecturers Elyse praises it highly) so if you can't find something else, worth a quick trip to see ;D


I did go there, but they only had an audio copy :(
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Mada438 on January 30, 2018, 10:53:02 pm
Thank you for your reply but I searched for distant lands but I couldn't find it anywhere. There was only an audio book available which is pre annoying :(
Its in a book (that contains a collection of short stories by tim winton) called minimum of two.
I know how hard it is to try and find, i searched for a long time  :(
In the end, i purchased a copy of minimum of two from the google play store, so i now have an Ebook version

I know this is dumb but... even after I do chose 2 texts idk what to do after that. I don't know how to analyse it in terms of discovery. Everyone says look at the rubric but how do I use t rubric.
I agree with kauac, TEE Tables are definitely worth a look at  ;D
Try to develop some thesis' or overarching ideas regarding discovery using the rubric
Then just look for some good techniques (metaphors, alliteration, anything).
THEN (only after having found some techniques) try and find ways to link these techniques (analysis) back to your thesis'/overarching themes!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: 3.14159265359 on January 31, 2018, 09:38:36 am
Its in a book (that contains a collection of short stories by tim winton) called minimum of two.
I know how hard it is to try and find, i searched for a long time  :(
In the end, i purchased a copy of minimum of two from the google play store, so i now have an Ebook version
I agree with kauac, TEE Tables are definitely worth a look at  ;D
Try to develop some thesis' or overarching ideas regarding discovery using the rubric
Then just look for some good techniques (metaphors, alliteration, anything).
THEN (only after having found some techniques) try and find ways to link these techniques (analysis) back to your thesis'/overarching themes!


That makes sense, thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on January 31, 2018, 03:59:46 pm
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea on visuals other than the ones listed??
I'm just struggling to find good sources for it!!

Thanks...
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on January 31, 2018, 04:09:09 pm
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea on visuals other than the ones listed??
I'm just struggling to find good sources for it!!

Thanks...
Is there a certain visual text type you are more comfortable analysing? You can do photographs, cartoons, short films etc - short films are really good in that they have more to draw out than say, a photograph, but some people find it harder to analyse.
Let me know and I will be back to help you!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on February 01, 2018, 12:02:26 pm
Just something where the discovery is almost obvious, but I wouldn't get marked down for picking an easy text... does that make sense?? I'm trying to find some kind of a picture that shows either someone or something discovery new land, or looking back on their discovery...
Not sure if that explains it more or not!!!

Thanks heaps..
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on February 01, 2018, 12:33:16 pm
Just something where the discovery is almost obvious, but I wouldn't get marked down for picking an easy text... does that make sense?? I'm trying to find some kind of a picture that shows either someone or something discovery new land, or looking back on their discovery...
Not sure if that explains it more or not!!!

Thanks heaps..
Yep, sure! We'll find something that works ;). I like using Shaun Tan books - the discovery is obvious, but has so many complex layers that require analysing that it wouldn't be considered an 'easy' text in my opinion.
One of his books 'The Rabbits' is an allegory of Europeans landing and discovering Australia (rabbits representing the white Europeans), and also the journey of the numbats (representing the Aboriginal) people being slowly over run by the Europeans. It contains tons of techniques, and you could choose to do either the whole book or one page, or even a double page spread (I'd suggest doing a double page spread - you will have more time to analyse it deeper and with stronger connections)
What's your prescribed text?
Hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on February 01, 2018, 02:03:41 pm
Thanks heaps!
Ok, yes I have actually analysed that before actually....
I've just been looking at 'The Savage State' by Thomas Cole... I reckon it is actually quite good! What are your thoughts on that one??
We have to relate it to a Robert Frost poem... Once I had chosen the text i was going to pick one of his poems....
Thanks...
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: prickles on February 01, 2018, 02:27:00 pm
Thanks heaps!
Ok, yes I have actually analysed that before actually....
I've just been looking at 'The Savage State' by Thomas Cole... I reckon it is actually quite good! What are your thoughts on that one??
We have to relate it to a Robert Frost poem... Once I had chosen the text i was going to pick one of his poems....
Thanks...
It doesn't look bad actually! What kind of ideas would you pull out from it? I'm just worried that you won't have enough to sustain an essay.
But I think it can work  ;)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: gilliesb18 on February 01, 2018, 04:44:39 pm
It doesn't look bad actually! What kind of ideas would you pull out from it? I'm just worried that you won't have enough to sustain an essay.
But I think it can work  ;)
Yeh well i wasn't sure if it would or not... I was thinking of how the moving cloud is kind of uncovering the scene which the traveller is entering. Off to the side there is some kind of settlement- not sure if that would be of any help... also just the variety of colours used makes the scene look kind of mystic (if that's the right word...) not sure if these points are relevant or not but lmk your thoughts!!!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: Opengangs on February 11, 2018, 05:20:43 pm
New related text - Hunt for the Wilderpeople - Film
Discoveries explored: Self-discovery // Physical discovery // Emotional discovery // Curiosity // Renewed perspectives on individuals and of others // Speculation of future possibilities // Unexpected nature of discovery // Wonder // Necessity // Confronting and provocative // Rediscovery of one's self

Synopsis: Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) follows two main characters, Ricky Baker and Hector. Ricky Baker is a juvenile delinquent who has been abandoned by his mother and has been in and out of foster care with a welfare service officer, Paula. Hector's wife, Bella, is his new foster mother who looks to take on a seemingly impossible task of raising him up. The plot continues to thicken when Bella suddenly dies, and Hector called the welfare service officer to pick him up again. At the same time, Ricky fakes his suicide and burns down a barn where he later runs into the forest - later found by Hector.

In this event, Hector breaks an ankle after taking a fall and they are forced to camp out in the forest. Meanwhile, a national manhunt for the two people begin after authorities believe that Hec has kidnapped Ricky. The two slowly bond as they help each other through this manhunt, which is where most of the internal discoveries take place. Throughout the manhunt, we observe their own selves starting to change and they become more alike in the sense that they are both cared by the same loving person, Bella.

The film places comedy where a lot of the serious issues arise, emphasising the theme of hope and trust as the film concludes with a well rounded version of Ricky Baker - the man he never was - with the film concluding with a scene of Hector (after he is released from prison) and Ricky Baker together.

Discuss discovery in terms of:
There are many chances for you to discuss the notion of discovery.
Self-discovery is one of the main ideas you could definitely bring into light - both, Hector and Ricky transform into a better person individually and in society as a result of their bond. Hector becomes a father figure he never once was. As an illiterate and as someone who hated people, Hector's growth as a person is clear cut - he begins to see love again, encapsulating hopefulness, gratitude, and perseverance when he's around Ricky. Ricky, on the other hand, understands Hector - their bond creates a father-son moment, and this catalyses Ricky's growth. He needed a father figure in his life, and so he begins to transform and grow as a person because of Hector. Together, they are strong - they couldn't survive without the other.

Another big discovery concept that definitely comes into play is the unexpected nature that discoveries can play. We see this very clearly through the death of Bella, the foster mother of Ricky and the wife of Hector. The sudden death of Bella becomes the starting/turning point to a chain of smaller discoveries, but it's the unexpected nature of discovery that drives Hector and Ricky to explore the consequences of their smaller discoveries. They are forced to change the way they live, and through this, they change their outlook on life. The unexpected death meant that Hector had to raise Ricky up, but he fears that the "old" Hector isn't the best role model to do so. As a result of this, he calls the welfare service officers to take Ricky back to juvenile camp. However, his outlook changes through the recurring discoveries that he encounters later on. One big change in someone's lifestyle, as a result, can bring a whole new perspective on themselves and of the world.

Works well with:
I believe that it is definitely a good related text for the Motorcycle Diaries. There are values of adventure that both texts explore, the changed positioning of the protagonist's outlook is definitely a key facet in both texts, and the metaphysical discoveries that are explored are encompassed in both texts.
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: jamonwindeyer on February 11, 2018, 06:31:02 pm
New related text - Hunt for the Wilderpeople - Film

Added to the OP! :)
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
Post by: elysepopplewell on February 12, 2018, 01:40:16 pm
New related text - Hunt for the Wilderpeople - Film
Discoveries explored: Self-discovery // Physical discovery // Emotional discovery // Curiosity // Renewed perspectives on individuals and of others // Speculation of future possibilities // Unexpected nature of discovery // Wonder // Necessity // Confronting and provocative // Rediscovery of one's self

Synopsis: Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) follows two main characters, Ricky Baker and Hector. Ricky Baker is a juvenile delinquent who has been abandoned by his mother and has been in and out of foster care with a welfare service officer, Paula. Hector's wife, Bella, is his new foster mother who looks to take on a seemingly impossible task of raising him up. The plot continues to thicken when Bella suddenly dies, and Hector called the welfare service officer to pick him up again. At the same time, Ricky fakes his suicide and burns down a barn where he later runs into the forest - later found by Hector.

In this event, Hector breaks an ankle after taking a fall and they are forced to camp out in the forest. Meanwhile, a national manhunt for the two people begin after authorities believe that Hec has kidnapped Ricky. The two slowly bond as they help each other through this manhunt, which is where most of the internal discoveries take place. Throughout the manhunt, we observe their own selves starting to change and they become more alike in the sense that they are both cared by the same loving person, Bella.

The film places comedy where a lot of the serious issues arise, emphasising the theme of hope and trust as the film concludes with a well rounded version of Ricky Baker - the man he never was - with the film concluding with a scene of Hector (after he is released from prison) and Ricky Baker together.

Discuss discovery in terms of:
There are many chances for you to discuss the notion of discovery.
Self-discovery is one of the main ideas you could definitely bring into light - both, Hector and Ricky transform into a better person individually and in society as a result of their bond. Hector becomes a father figure he never once was. As an illiterate and as someone who hated people, Hector's growth as a person is clear cut - he begins to see love again, encapsulating hopefulness, gratitude, and perseverance when he's around Ricky. Ricky, on the other hand, understands Hector - their bond creates a father-son moment, and this catalyses Ricky's growth. He needed a father figure in his life, and so he begins to transform and grow as a person because of Hector. Together, they are strong - they couldn't survive without the other.

Another big discovery concept that definitely comes into play is the unexpected nature that discoveries can play. We see this very clearly through the death of Bella, the foster mother of Ricky and the wife of Hector. The sudden death of Bella becomes the starting/turning point to a chain of smaller discoveries, but it's the unexpected nature of discovery that drives Hector and Ricky to explore the consequences of their smaller discoveries. They are forced to change the way they live, and through this, they change their outlook on life. The unexpected death meant that Hector had to raise Ricky up, but he fears that the "old" Hector isn't the best role model to do so. As a result of this, he calls the welfare service officers to take Ricky back to juvenile camp. However, his outlook changes through the recurring discoveries that he encounters later on. One big change in someone's lifestyle, as a result, can bring a whole new perspective on themselves and of the world.

Works well with:
I believe that it is definitely a good related text for the Motorcycle Diaries. There are values of adventure that both texts explore, the changed positioning of the protagonist's outlook is definitely a key facet in both texts, and the metaphysical discoveries that are explored are encompassed in both texts.

Thanks for your suggestion and thorough break down opengangs! You're a legend!
Title: Re: Discovery Related Texts - Suggestions
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