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National Education => Admissions tests => Selective Schools Admissions Tests => Topic started by: minimaple on October 01, 2010, 07:51:09 pm
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Hi everyone :)
My older brother is sitting the MHS exam next year, but he is quite stressed about his chances of getting in.
Just wondering, how competitive is it to get into MHS? for example, out of 100 people who participated in the exam, how many will get in?
Thanks heaps in advance :)
have a good evening !~
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tell him to not just try for melb. high but fr private schools which i pesonally think are better,
but for your question, its quite competitive, they accept the top 3% of the people writing it from each school. So if your brother goes to a bad school he would have a better opportunity. I think there are other schools on offer, like Nossal and JOhn monash, which don't seem as prestigious, but you can always go there if you don't get in.
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According to wiki, 26% of applicants are successful but no more than 5% from a single school are allowed.
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Umm, depends what year he is trying out for.
For year 10, from personal experience.. There was about 350 people taking the exam with a spot of about 30.
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"Entry to MHS Year 10 involves a test as well, but not for senior years."
What do they do for seniors?
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Go to a shit school before taking the exam.
Also, try for other schools as well, MHS isn't that good. The only reason it does well is because it's filled with over-achieving asians.
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not as hard as it used to be
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Go to a shit school before taking the exam.
Also, try for other schools as well, MHS isn't that good. The only reason it does well is because it's filled with over-achieving asians.
i went to uni high accelerated program and i got in. plus, the 'over-acheiving asians' are going to be the ones employing u in the future, so give them some respect. Lastly, MHS is a great school for everything except physics.
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Go to a shit school before taking the exam.
Also, try for other schools as well, MHS isn't that good. The only reason it does well is because it's filled with over-achieving asians.
i went to uni high accelerated program and i got in. plus, the 'over-acheiving asians' are going to be the ones employing u in the future, so give them some respect. Lastly, MHS is a great school for everything except physics.
I concur. The Physics faculty is mediocre at best and heavily influenced my [and Shinny's :P ] decision to not undertake Physics at a VCE level.
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Go to a shit school before taking the exam.
MHS is a great school
Je ne comprends pas :(
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Top 3% of your school gets excepted into MHS/MR.
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Out of about 1500 boys doing the exam, 340 are accepted. Also, only 3% from your school are accepted straight in, thats Macrob/MHS combined. If you rank above the general cut-off from everyone taking the test, but miss out because of the 3% rule, you go into the principal's discretionary category, where they look at your report and achievements, and youre questioned about your motivation. Meaning you can still make it if youre not top 3% of your school.
And MHS is a great school... :)
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To be honest, I wasn't an incredible student in year 8. I can't remember my scores, but I did not have the straight 100%s in math etc that much of my cohort does. If he worked fairly hard for the exam, he should be able to get in. Also keep in mind that there are 2nd round offers etc. One of my mates got a letter about a month later telling him he had a spot. Quite a few of the private school kids who apply do reject so tell him not to stress out too much about the numbers. @ Hutchoo, did you get accepted?
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Ha, nope =/.
I did pretty good for no study though (bet my friends with superior in English (analytical/Creative) and vocab).. Really regretting it now :P I SHOULD OF STUIDED/QUIT DOTA!!
I would of gotten accepted at JMSS though- easily.. But I didn't even know it existed until this year.
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Caspar, that's because you are a hipster
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Best believe.
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Go to a shit school before taking the exam.
Also, try for other schools as well, MHS isn't that good. The only reason it does well is because it's filled with over-achieving asians.
i went to uni high accelerated program and i got in. plus, the 'over-acheiving asians' are going to be the ones employing u in the future, so give them some respect. Lastly, MHS is a great school for everything except physics.
Thank you for your insightful advice. I can see the accelerated program helped a lot with your grammar. Keep it up, I'm sure you're doing great.
The term 'respect' has been significantly hijacked by the liberal lefts. I don't know how you do it, but I really don't enjoy whoring out respect like some latino gang banger. Respect is something I give to someone 1) who has qualities I aspire to possess or 2) has greatly influenced my thought. Hence, the amount of people I actually do respect, I can count with my left hand. Now, why should I respect a kid who has proved nothing to me but rote-learned answers? MHS is a great school mainly because it has a screening process which separates the wheat from the chaff.
wow! thats pretty tough, just trying to defend my school-mates... did u ever go to MHS, if so, u would probably know a bit more about its 'screening process', aka. entrance exam. plenty of people who are not academically high get in (your 'chaff'), but are made academically high due to the good competition and overall teaching (hence, a 'great school' -able to make the good, the best). in addition, you would also know that there is a difference between Kumon and MHS if u went here, we are not 'rote-learned', that is why we have one of the highest GAT scores in the state (u cannot wrote learn the GAT).
btw, i would give someone respect if they had the power to sack me and deem me unemployed, its just food for thought though... (and my grammar is much betterer than yours... lol... its a forum!)
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Is "wrote" learning ironic or have some meaning that I'm not getting?
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If he worked fairly hard for the exam, he should be able to get in.
+1
:)
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Is "wrote" learning ironic or have some meaning that I'm not getting?
its actually 'rote learning' (i too made the mistake in my above post -now editted)
Rote learning is a learning technique which focuses on memorization ,eg. multiplication tables in maths, ions and solubilities in chemistry, etc. That is what is normally 'rote-learnt' by everyone.
What Cianyx was saying (or writing) was that MHS is only good in exams because teachers use 'rote-learning' to teach us. Incorrect. That is what many bad tutors do (individuals or organisations such as Kumon). If MHS was 'rote-learnt', then why would our GAT scores be so high, or why do we excel in application questions in bio or chem?
As for the irony, I am not sure... (maybe the spelling was the confusion)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rote_learning
Its 'Rote'
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just to put in my two cents: without wanting to degrade MHS in any way, i do agree with someone above who was advocating private schools. I would also tend to agree with clanyx in his (albeit very passionate) statements about rote learning. although i didn't attend MHS, i have friends that did, and the 'top 3% rule' would seem to indicate that the reason you get good results (although not the best) is largely due to your high level of selectivity.
As a result, i would argue that good results are more a result of the student cohort, rather than reflecting on the nature of the school and it's ability to teach. for example, the school i attended is not selective in any way, and yet had an incredible ENTER average of about 93... this, i feel, is indicative of a great school, rather than selectivity
that said, i would by all means encourage people to go to MHS as i'm sure it's a great learning environment in terms of competition, diligence, willingness to learn, etc.
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just to put in my two cents: without wanting to degrade MHS in any way, i do agree with someone above who was advocating private schools. I would also tend to agree with clanyx in his (albeit very passionate) statements about rote learning. although i didn't attend MHS, i have friends that did, and the 'top 3% rule' would seem to indicate that the reason you get good results (although not the best) is largely due to your high level of selectivity.
As a result, i would argue that good results are more a result of the student cohort, rather than reflecting on the nature of the school and it's ability to teach. for example, the school i attended is not selective in any way, and yet had an incredible ENTER average of about 93... this, i feel, is indicative of a great school, rather than selectivity
that said, i would by all means encourage people to go to MHS as i'm sure it's a great learning environment in terms of competition, diligence, willingness to learn, etc.
You are indeed correct. MHS has the worst physics faculty in the history of physic faculities and some teachers are just downright appalling...MHS does well due to its students who motivate each other. Take it from someone who's suffered Basu, Huysing and Wright :'(
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iNerd can i ask what MHS people think of you doing a VET, and psych as a 3/4?
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iNerd can i ask what MHS people think of you doing a VET, and psych as a 3/4?
Obviously laughter/teasing...but I easily rebut it with my 7frees in the first 2weeks and then 10 frees a fortnight from then on...not to mention the fact that VET has no exam and my score contribution will be an average of my primary 4 scaled or 2mention that VET is co-educational..or 2mention that Allied Health is actually part medicine and will be fun..[hopefully]. As for psychology 3/4? nothing there? MHS has the best psych class? 2009 got five 50's from MHS.
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re: the VET unit, just wondering what the consensus was - cheers!
just because i know some of my friends (3 of which got 99.95) were a little critical of me signing up for 3/4 PE way back at the end of year 10... but later saw the wisdom of my decision (as did i)
likewise, my sister (now studying med) got a 50 in food tech...
so i'd strongly advocate doing 'dumber' subjects rather than just the expected subjects (obviously i mean this in a wider context rather than directed at you iNerd, i was more wondering what the general opinion was at MHS)
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re: the VET unit, just wondering what the consensus was - cheers!
just because i know some of my friends (3 of which got 99.95) were a little critical of me signing up for 3/4 PE way back at the end of year 10... but later saw the wisdom of my decision (as did i)
likewise, my sister (now studying med) got a 50 in food tech...
so i'd strongly advocate doing 'dumber' subjects rather than just the expected subjects (obviously i mean this in a wider context rather than directed at you iNerd, i was more wondering what the general opinion was at MHS)
The general opinion of my friends is that VET is a risky choice, is mainly for the 'white' drop-out kids [ severe racism underlies MHS culture lol :P ] and that I would be better off taking the safe pathway of 6 VCE subjs. I was always going to take Psychology over Biology as I'm much more interested in it and I'll have plenty of time to study biology later on; for now, I shall enjoy school :)
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yeah fair enough
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its actually 'rote learning' (i too made the mistake in my above post -now editted)
I'm aware, I thought you were making some point by spelling it "wrote"
And Kumon isn't exactly rote-learning...
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maybe not exactly, but the same principle
"do a booklet of the same type of question for a whole week"
its like an army drill, keep doing it until either you get it, or you memorise it