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Title: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Joseph41 on November 10, 2020, 10:05:32 am
When the exam has finished, use this thread to chat all things English.

How did you go? Was it better/worse than expected? Any other thoughts? :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: joe444 on November 10, 2020, 10:51:59 am
... and, as in previous years, if anyone wishes to upload a scan, that would be greatly appreciated.  I should be able to upload something tonight if not.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on November 10, 2020, 01:11:36 pm
Section A - I did Pride and Prejudice, question i (or whatever was the first impressions one). Let me just say, I prepared for so many hard questions. Not for the EASIEST QUESTION EVER. I loved it. :D :D
Section B - Ransom/The Queen, I did question i I think (or whatever the grief one was). We'd actually prepared for both of those questions in class. 'Nuff said.
Section C - I was worried about getting a second thing we had to analyse. I was happy, overall.

Overall rating: a very solid 9.5/10. The only thing that stops it being 10/10 is my lingering feeling that if I think I did well, I generally don't do as well.


Overall: I think I've fallen in love with an exam... :P
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Joseph41 on November 10, 2020, 01:12:42 pm
Section A - I did Pride and Prejudice, question i (or whatever was the first impressions one). Let me just say, I prepared for so many hard questions. Not for the EASIEST QUESTION EVER. I loved it. :D :D
Section B - Ransom/The Queen, I did question i I think (or whatever the grief one was). We'd actually prepared for both of those questions in class. 'Nuff said.
Section C - I was worried about getting a second thing we had to analyse. I was happy, overall.

Overall rating: a very solid 9.5/10. The only thing that stops it being 10/10 is my lingering feeling that if I think I did well, I generally don't do as well.


Overall: I think I've fallen in love with an exam... :P

Nice work!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: drops on November 10, 2020, 01:14:25 pm
Overall good paper
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: nirgun.kaur on November 10, 2020, 01:26:42 pm
Really, really good paper, but I can help but think that I didn't do as well as I had expected - but I guess that that's a usual concern after the exams :((
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on November 10, 2020, 01:27:30 pm
Really, really good paper, but I can help but think that I didn't do as well as I had expected - but I guess that that's a usual concern after the exams :((
What texts did you do?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Genshai on November 10, 2020, 01:56:16 pm
I'm a little disappointed in myself, to be honest. I just didn't vibe with this exam (idk how to explain it haha). The questions were fine (not my favourite, but not bad at all!); I did Station Eleven for A and Dressmaker/Crucible for B, and I was quite surprised to find only one thing to analyse for section C. I think I'm set for... 50-60% ??

I'm hoping these negative feelings are just my general self-deprecating thoughts, but I guess we'll have to wait haha!

I hope everyone's happy so far!! Good luck for all your future exams!!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Coolgalbornin03Lo on November 10, 2020, 02:04:30 pm
Just wanted to ask if anyone knows.
For section a, I did Rear window (prompt was the one about companionship and belonging) but I forgot to discuss cinematic techniques  :'(. Does anyone know if that will significantly reduce my mark?

I usually put on in every paragraph- my teacher said at least one but who knows maybe that’s just her preference shes who picky!!

You did amazing regardless so maybe just relax and take your mind off this :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Coolgalbornin03Lo on November 10, 2020, 02:07:46 pm
7/10

It was an easy prompt for Rear Window- my dreaded text response. I was lucky the only essay I wrote nicely was on this. I was careful NOT to regurgitate as ever since my failed rear window sac missing the prompt scares me.

Section C was so dry😭😭 didn’t vibe with it. Like sometimes there’s good stuff but this was just baddddd. I think I got 6/7 out of 10 not that 8.

Section B my favourite, the prompts threw me a little bit I think I demonstrated “conceptual complexity“ I guess? Who knows. Let’s hope.

Overall it was 20 minutes into the exam where I threw away my hopes for a 40 study score. I think 37 is more accurate now- but who knows! Maybe they’ll love my mediocre pieces  :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: 99.95_goal on November 10, 2020, 02:27:57 pm
That was surprisingly good - the topics are all ones that I have pondered during revision so that worked out nicely. My only worry tho is that since the topics are so straightforward it'll be harder to get a decent grade so fingers crossed the examiner vibes with my paper
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: 55232Jeremy on November 10, 2020, 02:48:12 pm
Surprisingly easy, considering i didn't put as much effort into English as much as I wanted to ahah.

Section A and B were pretty straight forward as VCAA gave pretty sexy prompts. However, I feel like I went overboard with the inclusion of symbols/literary/film techniques. Can never be a bad thing though, right? 

Section C was kind of dreadful and surprised they only included one text to analyse!, went into too much detail at the end and ended up wasting 15 minutes of my time which I planned to dedicate to section A, thus I had to rush it afterwards >:(

However, I give this exam a solid 7/10. Hoping for at least two 7's to pave my way to a potential 35 study score.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: ATAR_SLAYER on November 10, 2020, 05:19:56 pm
9/10 overall.

Felt as though Section A and Section B went very well. The choice of only one text for Section C was a bit of a surprise, and kind of threw me off though.

Also, just wondering, what sort of study score I would be looking at after today's exam:
- Ranked top 10 in strong cohort (30% of students usually get above a 40), with an average SAC score of 96%
- Around a 54/60 on the exam
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: steenasonson21 on November 10, 2020, 06:02:18 pm
How picky are the examiners about visuals...I might have forgotten to analyze one of them but I had a reasonably strong analysis. Would I be having false hope for a 8 out of 10?  :-[
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Genshai on November 10, 2020, 06:07:15 pm
How picky are the examiners about visuals...I might have forgotten to analyze one of them but I had a reasonably strong analysis. Would I be having false hope for a 8 out of 10?  :-[

from what i've heard from past examiners, you only have to examine one. so you should be fine?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: steenasonson21 on November 10, 2020, 06:15:58 pm
from what i've heard from past examiners, you only have to examine one. so you should be fine?

Really?! Where did you hear that from? Are you sure because I'm pretty sure they would put both of them there for a reason righhhtt?  :o
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Coolgalbornin03Lo on November 10, 2020, 06:30:41 pm
How picky are the examiners about visuals...I might have forgotten to analyze one of them but I had a reasonably strong analysis. Would I be having false hope for a 8 out of 10?  :-[

My teacher says if there’s multiple only pick 2 but if there’s 2 engage with both, I did this but the second one was to a lesser extent whilst the first was it’s own paragraph supporting an argument.

I don’t think it matter though- an 8 is definitely still possible (at least I think so).
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: 02hi on November 10, 2020, 07:02:36 pm
i think for my comparative i repeated my self for two bodies. Like i had a topic sentence in the first one and then i had the 3rd one that is basically talking about the same thing. Is this horrible and did i completely flop???
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Genshai on November 10, 2020, 07:22:34 pm
Really?! Where did you hear that from? Are you sure because I'm pretty sure they would put both of them there for a reason righhhtt?  :o

on the vate lectures, the teacher said that only one was necessary (and she was a past examiner). however, with this exam having only one article it may be different? If you check the examiners report (maybe 2019?) they might have something.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: nirgun.kaur on November 10, 2020, 07:23:01 pm
What texts did you do?

Section A: The Women of Troy
Section B: The Dressmaker and The Crucible
:)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: brenden on November 10, 2020, 07:58:52 pm
It's not crucial to analyse a second image to score in the higher range (7-10) - though it's helpful the higher in the range that you go, I think. The criteria point is concerned with your ability to analyse written and visual language, and so long as you address one of the images - then you're demonstrating competency in analysing visual language.

Doing it again obviously demonstrates it again, which could be useful. But you aren't an automatic 6/10 for forgetting an image.

Put it aside and move on to the next exams! Well done everyone :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on November 11, 2020, 09:48:36 am
It's not crucial to analyse a second image to score in the higher range (7-10) - though it's helpful the higher in the range that you go, I think. The criteria point is concerned with your ability to analyse written and visual language, and so long as you address one of the images - then you're demonstrating competency in analysing visual language.

Doing it again obviously demonstrates it again, which could be useful. But you aren't an automatic 6/10 for forgetting an image.

Put it aside and move on to the next exams! Well done everyone :)
If you do ~1 sentence on each one... have I just thrown away my chances of getting 18+/20 for that one?!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: uwuuu on November 11, 2020, 09:50:32 am
Hi I stuffed up my language analysis I think. I accidentally misread the speakers name's last name to be Warwick and I've addressed his first name throughout my essay. Will I lose marks for this?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: Coolgalbornin03Lo on November 11, 2020, 10:19:06 am
If you do ~1 sentence on each one... have I just thrown away my chances of getting 18+/20 for that one?!

My teacher always said to dedicate a paragraph to an image but frame it as supporting an argument
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: brenden on November 11, 2020, 10:48:08 am
If you do ~1 sentence on each one... have I just thrown away my chances of getting 18+/20 for that one?!
Probably depends how good those sentences were!

I think it would have been better to do more, but I also still think 18 is in the realm of possibility depending on the rest of the piece.
Hi I stuffed up my language analysis I think. I accidentally misread the speakers name's last name to be Warwick and I've addressed his first name throughout my essay. Will I lose marks for this?
Won't impact you at all.

My teacher always said to dedicate a paragraph to an image but frame it as supporting an argument
This is fine, but not a requirement for high marks. There are many ways to skin a cat!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: rkjthguakj on November 11, 2020, 11:35:31 am
I personally found the exam prompts easier than expected (except for perhaps Section C). I'm glad to hear that there seems to be a general consensus that this year's prompts were easier than expected.

I don't have many regrets for LA, I was just a bit caught off guard to find one article to analyse but I guess that made all my practice the more worth it. I don't think I missed out on too much, or at least it should've been enough. I only spent 45 minutes on my essay, so I'm worried it might not be up to scratch with everybody else's.

Section A for Wordsworth honestly gave us the easiest prompts they could've given us. So all that stress over analysing his use of simplistic language thank god did not appear on the exam. I feel satisfied with how I went but now I'm second-guessing if I could've engaged with the prompt better or put in more evidence.

Section B for The Crucible and The Dressmaker was ok but could've been better. The prompts were duable. I personally find this section the hardest to write and I didn't get to a conclusion. I think I definitely could've done better but given the time with my other essays, I can't complain too much.

Overall, a 9/10 experience. I hope everyone else went okay!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: uwuuu on November 11, 2020, 04:03:51 pm
Hi, I accidentlly addressed the language analysis speaker by his first name. Will I lose marks for this?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: brenden on November 11, 2020, 05:30:48 pm
Hi, I accidentlly addressed the language analysis speaker by his first name. Will I lose marks for this?
No.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: K888 on November 13, 2020, 06:30:26 pm
I've removed the copies of the exam that were attached, as VCAA exams are subject to copyright just like other exams. It's fine to discuss the prompts and exam and all that, but we've received directions from VCAA previously to not allow actual scans of the exam to be uploaded and accessed.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: oriyqais on November 14, 2020, 06:38:03 pm
Hi
does anyone know what will happen if you forget to tick the box of the selected text in the Exam?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: brenden on November 14, 2020, 09:45:55 pm
Hi
does anyone know what will happen if you forget to tick the box of the selected text in the Exam?

They'll figure it out :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam 2020 - Discussion, Questions, Potential Solutions
Post by: khaiv710 on November 15, 2020, 06:50:53 pm
i think for my comparative i repeated my self for two bodies. Like i had a topic sentence in the first one and then i had the 3rd one that is basically talking about the same thing. Is this horrible and did i completely flop???

Don't worry, they mark it based on content as opposed to structure. As long as you've shown knowledge of both texts and were able to adeptly compare them then it wouldn't make too much of a difference how you go about doing it.