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Title: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: caffinatedloz on November 08, 2021, 06:33:44 pm
How did everyone go?
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: kailesh on November 08, 2021, 06:47:19 pm
I found it extremely hard too. :'( :'(
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Post by: MATHSMETHODS_298 on November 08, 2021, 06:49:44 pm
I will be suprised if I get a raw study score of above 30. Extremely dissapointed that I couldnt answer a huge chunk of questions due to the time constraints.  :'(
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: stressed as hell on November 08, 2021, 06:54:56 pm
usually a high achiever but couldn't do half of that exam(started panicking and stuffed up with time). please tell me I am not the only one!
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: amyzzwq on November 08, 2021, 06:57:56 pm
I dont even know how to study for chem now, I just guessed for half of the mcq questions, have a feeling i would get raw 10 now lmao
went in confident and came out depressed as hell
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: nottmhieu on November 08, 2021, 07:34:25 pm
usually a high achiever but couldn't do half of that exam(started panicking and stuffed up with time). please tell me I am not the only one!

hey this is exactly my case. i think i barely did half of the exam (or i hope i did). anyway i still have chem and physics to go so can't get sidetracked.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: nottmhieu on November 08, 2021, 07:36:13 pm
I dont even know how to study for chem now, I just guessed for half of the mcq questions, have a feeling i would get raw 10 now lmao
went in confident and came out depressed as hell
i think i am depressed w/out even knowing it.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: stressed as hell on November 08, 2021, 07:38:38 pm
I dont even know how to study for chem now, I just guessed for half of the mcq questions, have a feeling i would get raw 10 now lmao
went in confident and came out depressed as hell
yeah i feel so demotivated for chem now :(
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: cgeorge on November 08, 2021, 07:53:36 pm
Yeah I felt super confident with the content but those questions really were insane, never seen anything like it on a spesh exam. Good to know everyone's in the same boat, but yeah they were straight up sadistic this year :(
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: Victor1195473 on November 08, 2021, 09:27:36 pm
I think the best mindset for going into tmr's chem exam is to think that every did bad as well. I stuffed up so many questions. I even read N as Newton (unit) instead of Normal force. RIP.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: miyukiaura on November 08, 2021, 09:54:13 pm
in reading time i thought it was doable but then ended up spending way too much time on some questions and skipped the last part of each SA. guessed all MC
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Post by: Thunder8621 on November 08, 2021, 10:33:06 pm
Anyone have a blank copy of Spesh 2 paper? Or at lease the solutions?
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Post by: keshais on November 08, 2021, 10:44:08 pm
lol used my cas during reading time
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: 1729 on November 09, 2021, 07:15:36 am
If anybody is curious, attached is the 2021 Specialist Exam 2.
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Post by: tianaj2010 on November 09, 2021, 10:15:02 am
I honestly don't understand what need they have to make an exam that overly difficult.
Of course, every exam should aim to spread out the cohort and include some more unpredictable questions, but when you have an exam like this the problem is that while the higher students may be more spread out, the rest of the cohort won't be at all.
Surely VCAA would know how to write exams consistently by now ???
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: SS1314 on November 09, 2021, 03:47:44 pm
Anyone got any idea what the A+ cut off will be this year? 2019 A+ cutoff was 65/80 so im guessing its gonna be at least less than that.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: Orb on November 09, 2021, 09:15:25 pm
Anyone got any idea what the A+ cut off will be this year? 2019 A+ cutoff was 65/80 so im guessing its gonna be at least less than that.

I think in every year students tend to think their exam was the hardest year - often they don't end up being the case.

My personal hypothesis is that the graded distribution will be similar to 2019 - in terms of actual difficulty I don't think this year is any harder than 2019, i'd actually say it's reasonably easier from an exam difficulty perspective, than 2019.

The caveat is twofold:
1) 2021 SM students have had 2 years of COVID which will undoubtedly have impacted learning - resulting in comprehension and capability levels likely lower than those students in 2019 (on average) - not a reflection of overall student capability but rather that most students have had a very difficult two years which means that given the same exam, 2021 students likely to perform lower than 2019 students (hence leading to a lower graded distribution curve), and
2) Timing of this exam is much tighter than most years - which means that students would lose marks due to insufficient time relative to other years.

My prediction is 37-38/40 needed for an A+ in Exam 1 (decently easy) and a 64-66/80 needed for A+ in Exam 2, so roughly you'd need around a 102-104/120 for a 40 this year.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: Professor Polonsky on November 10, 2021, 02:00:50 am
I think in every year students tend to think their exam was the hardest year - often they don't end up being the case.
Very much this. I've been looking at VCE maths exams since 2012, and after almost every single exam you hear a chorus of "this exam was the hardest one yet", irrespective of its actual difficulty. The only time you don't hear it is if the exam was really easy.

The upside is that this barely matters. Except for extremely easy or difficult exams, the difficulty shouldn't affect your score. Take comfort from that, move on to the next exam, and keep working hard - you're almost at the finish line.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: jazzycab on November 12, 2021, 08:25:14 am
I think in every year students tend to think their exam was the hardest year - often they don't end up being the case.

My personal hypothesis is that the graded distribution will be similar to 2019 - in terms of actual difficulty I don't think this year is any harder than 2019, i'd actually say it's reasonably easier from an exam difficulty perspective, than 2019.

As someone who taught Spec for 9 years (no longer in teaching), I agree with the sentiment that it wasn't necessarily harder than some exams from previous years.
Having said that, my initial thoughts were that it would have been incredibly challenging to complete within the prescribed time frame under exam conditions.
In order to nail it, I think you would have had to have found the most efficient solution to each question straight away.
In the comfort of my own home (with the distractions of children), within two hours of writing time, I managed to answer all of the extended response (with the exception of a few parts I'd asterisked to come back to - mostly due to working errors on my behalf), but only half of the MCQ. It took probably another hour to go back and fix my earlier mistakes and finish the remaining multiple choice.
Admittedly, I didn't answer everything super efficiently, but in the heat of the exam, I don't know how students are supposed to do o either.
Title: Re: VCE Specialist Maths Exam Discussion
Post by: PolySquared on November 12, 2021, 12:10:13 pm
What do you all think of these answers?

https://youtu.be/QlQabtUkcbA