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Title: Public transport discussion
Post by: Bri MT on November 28, 2019, 09:19:35 pm
I've noticed that there tends to be a bit of conversation around public transport so here's a dedicated thread. Whether you use your phone, a plastic card, a paper ticket or some other method to navigate public transport feel free to join in with your experiences and thoughts about the marvel that is public transport.


Btw: trains>trams>buses
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: beatroot on November 28, 2019, 09:27:54 pm
I only need to take the bus to most places I go to so bus>trains (very biased). I live in an area where buses come every 5-10 minutes to all the places you can think of so buses are very handy.

Huge fan of the double decker trains in Sydney though. Can't wait for the damn light rail to finish so I can actually use it. Not sure if it will be quicker than buses though.

Always use my wonderful Opal card when using public transport. Always been curious to use my actual debit card because they've implemented that thing this year. I feel like I would get charged the adult rate (since your card obvs doesn't specify if you're a concession or not) so I always have my Opal card to get the concession rates.

Edit: The 'NextThere' app is a godsend (although is useless when the real time data doesn't load- which happens rarely. But nevertheless still a good app)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: DrDusk on November 28, 2019, 09:31:58 pm
I just wanna say Australian Public transport sucks. Now I don't know if this is just Sydney but here we have literally a breakdown/failure every week! Right now the standard one every week is signal failure.

It's not even funny anymore. Even the buses, 4 times the uni express bus broke down midway while I was on it...
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: fun_jirachi on November 28, 2019, 09:33:18 pm
I've been using buses and trains for the last six years, and while they have their boons, I can say without a doubt that walking is the best mode of transport. Public transport is like that team that comes runners-up every season; you hype it up when there's no delays/accidents for about a week, and then it inevitably lets you down in the endgame. It's just a bit a shame there are no proper contingency plans in place for when a train does break down, since they happen all too often; when trains are stopped and planned, they just move to buses (traffic :( ), when they aren't planned, the whole system goes into meltdown. Anything that's walking distance - just walk :)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on November 28, 2019, 11:03:23 pm
I can see myself posting here everyday for the foreseeable future 😅

My tram out of an event is on time, which means I'll be on the second last train home; this smoothness is making me weary bc it's too smooth and something wrong is going to happen- I feel it in my bones 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: owidjaja on November 29, 2019, 12:06:15 am
Was on my way home from uni yesterday when my dad called me that there were massive delays because of a fire near the train station before the station I got off. The train I caught didn't mention anything about delays or route changes so I was kinda confused about all this until we passed the station and there were 4 fire trucks right next to the train tracks and a bunch of firefighters still hosing down the already-burnt grass/trees.

It was such a bizarre moment for me.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Poet on November 29, 2019, 08:54:46 am
I always use PT to get to work and back - and it's always a surprise when they're on time! My bus is on time perhaps 40% of the time and its lateness ranges from 2-10 minutes. Living in an area where the bus cycle is 40 minutes long, the PTV app's ETA function is the best. Especially when I think I've missed the bus but it's just 10 minutes late haha

Trains are the same. I live along the Hurstbridge line so it's not as bad as, for example, Pakenham or Werribee lines, but there is always a delay by at least a couple of minutes and I don't think the train has been on time to my station in at least a month lol.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Bri MT on November 29, 2019, 09:07:37 am
> gets to bus stop just in time to watch bus leave
> as a result, gets to train station a few minutes after the train I wanted left

To be fair,  this was on me.  The bus left exactly when it was scheduled to. 
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on November 29, 2019, 12:07:02 pm
Since when were the vline vlocity (for folk not from Vic- Vline's what we call our intercity or regional trains, vlocity is a train type :D ) train seats covered in the purple pizza shapes and orange chicken crimpy shapes patterns?

First time on one that doesn't have the standard plain blue seats 😂
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: katie,rinos on November 29, 2019, 04:11:06 pm
Have to get to the con early tomorrow for my AMEB exam. Of course, there's track work on my line :(
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sarangiya on November 29, 2019, 05:19:09 pm
In my hometown, buses are once hourly, and the trains to Melbourne are also one in an hour. I didn't find it that inconvenient really but I suppose when you have to catch two buses for an hour-long journey vs. driving for 15 minutes, it's obvious why country folk don't use public transport.

In Melbourne, I love the trams even though they are a bit loose on time. I find that in the day they are frequent enough for it not to be a big deal, but in the evening it can be pretty inconvenient. As for buses I only ever habitually took the 401/402 between North Melbourne, the RMH and Melbourne Uni. It was always on time, roared through the streets like noone's business and never failed me. I love you 401. The metros between Southern Cross, North Melbourne and Footscray were also pretty reliable albeit with some delays. Pretty good.
V-Line is horrible... don't even get me started ... I loved having to sit down in the middle of the aisle next to the bin because they could only have 3 carriages instead of 6 for the peak 6 o'clock service. I also missed work because they couldn't connect the carriages properly as well lol. disGusting.

Huge fan of the double decker trains in Sydney though. Can't wait for the damn light rail to finish so I can actually use it. Not sure if it will be quicker than buses though.
Big feels. I'm always amused when I catch a train in Sydney. Will it sit upstairs or downstairs? So mAnY OpTioNs lmao
I live so close to one of the light rail stops it's not funny. I can't wait to use it but I'm praying it's quicker than the bus. If it's not I'm going to be very hurt and disappointed.
In saying this, I literally hate buses. A train, a team, a ferry, anything is better. In my experience so far, Sydney has good buses but they're still buses and I still hate them. So despite Sydney's superior double-deckers, Opal app (oh, the days before Google Pay for Myki...) and bus frequency, Melbourne has trams and lots of train stations and that's where it's at.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Calebark on November 29, 2019, 05:21:12 pm
train bad
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on November 29, 2019, 05:48:40 pm
train bad
what'd said train do now? 😂
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Poet on November 30, 2019, 10:12:14 am
I have been
On PT
For 2 and a half hours
And I'm not even at my destination yet
Someone pls help
They didn't announce these bus replacements
And I get buS siCk
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: brothanathan on November 30, 2019, 10:36:16 am
What's everyone's opinions on high speed rail? As in if it was fully-fledged in Straya?
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sarangiya on November 30, 2019, 11:47:39 pm
What's everyone's opinions on high speed rail? As in if it was fully-fledged in Straya?
Big want
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 01, 2019, 08:44:02 am
I wish there was better transport frequency on a Sunday morning (before 10), if my bus doesn't show up, the train that takes me halfway won't be here for another 40 mins, making me late for my shift
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: annabeljxde on December 01, 2019, 12:42:54 pm
imo there's just way too many people using the trains now, especially if you want to ride the T1 line from Central around peak hour. It gets soooo crazy and I would always end up standing. One time a tradie came on from one of the stops and literally told the nearest seated person to get up from their seat so he could sit down. People can be really unfriendly and I just wish that the government would do something about delays and breakdowns.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: caffinatedloz on December 01, 2019, 07:16:00 pm
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Hurstbridge line (Vic)? I had the exact same problem this weekend. I spent more than seven hours commuting across two days. :o (replacement busses are the literal worst)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Coolmate on December 01, 2019, 08:37:17 pm
That moment when you are on public transport and the person next to you falls asleep and you are on the window side and need to get off the train/ bus :D
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: caffinatedloz on December 02, 2019, 07:58:53 pm
cancelled trains add an extra twenty minute wait to my two hour morning commute >:(
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 05, 2019, 01:00:31 pm
-got off shift at 12:30
-cleared my messages
-went to the bathroom
-missed a bus
-is now standing in wind for 30 mins until the next one comes 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: PhoenixxFire on December 17, 2019, 03:45:14 pm
So my myki was at -$0.20, I put $5 on it, went on a few busses and now we’re at -$0.70. Now my math might not be great, but I think it’s good enough to know that it shouldn’t have costed me more than $5 for my $4.40 daily fare....
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: beatroot on December 17, 2019, 04:10:20 pm
The new Sydney light rail is incredibly slow! Much quicker to take the bus. Hopefully, they’ll improve this in the future :)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: RuiAce on December 17, 2019, 04:23:56 pm
The new Sydney light rail is incredibly slow! Much quicker to take the bus. Hopefully, they’ll improve this in the future :)
It's horrible if you're in a rush lol. I just love the no motionsickness.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: yourfriendlyneighbourhoodghost on December 19, 2019, 01:27:40 pm
I absolutely love public transport for some reason, not so much trams but trains and buses are nice, I'm afraid it's some of the people who make me not like it as much as I could. ):
It's always so scary at night as well, I hate that.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: AngelWings on December 19, 2019, 07:20:12 pm
Umm, did anyone else see that the myki fares will increase from January 1.
I’m glad I paid for a yearly myki pass in May now.

I seem to remember when a daily Zone 1 + 2 concession ticket in Melbourne cost like $6-something like 5-10 years ago? Am I remembering things wrong?
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 19, 2019, 07:33:02 pm
Umm, did anyone else see that the myki fares will increase from January 1.
This often happens yearly.

What's the prices like next year? 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Snow Leopard on December 19, 2019, 07:36:50 pm
This often happens yearly.

What's the prices like next year? 😅
I think up by 20 - 40 cents depending on which Public Transport you're using. Doesn't sound like a lot, but over a period of time I feel like it would make a bit of a difference.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 21, 2019, 05:08:53 pm
>has shift
>finishes at 5
>last bus was at 4:30
>next is at 5:30

Chances it'll be late? 75%
Chances it'll mean I miss a connecting bus to go to a family dinner: 100% if late 😅

Point Cook buses suck 😂
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: caffinatedloz on January 15, 2020, 02:12:35 pm
Travelling across the city today and I've decided that rather going in and back out on trains I'm going to do it on two busses. It's meant to take less time so fingers crossed. I'm taking a backpack, duffel bag and pillow with me, so I REALLY hope that the bus isn't too crowded. Luckily I'm getting picked up at the other end so I won't have to carry it all far in the heat.

I love the independence public transport gives me, but I always feel awkward trying to carry lots of stuff. Like when my friends and I tried to take a massive esky to Brighton beach and back on the train. Coming home in rush hour was quite a difficulty. Or bringing my bike home when people are coming home from work. At least those two were on trains.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on January 15, 2020, 02:16:17 pm
Travelling across the city today and I've decided that rather going in and back out on trains I'm going to do it on two busses. It's meant to take less time so fingers crossed. I'm taking a backpack, duffel bag and pillow with me, so I REALLY hope that the bus isn't too crowded. Luckily I'm getting picked up at the other end so I won't have to carry it all far in the heat.

I love the independence public transport gives me, but I always feel awkward trying to carry lots of stuff. Like when my friends and I tried to take a massive esky to Brighton beach and back on the train. Coming home in rush hour was quite a difficulty. Or bringing my bike home when people are coming home from work. At least those two were on trains.
Hopefully it isn't too crowded for you!

Carrying bulky stuff on PT is always a pain- there's been times I've had to wheel a suitcase into uni right through the city and it isn't ideal aha!
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on February 19, 2020, 09:44:52 am
Station annoucement: "the next train departing platform 2 will be the 9:31 Werribee, stopping all stations to Werribee"

Time: 9:43

Metro site: "good service"

I'm confused 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: JR_StudyEd on February 26, 2020, 11:54:35 am
I've only finished my second official day of university and I already feel like Melbourne's public transport system will become one of the very few things I genuinely hate. Also, am I the only person who just sits on the train on the way to uni looking out the window? It's kind of hard to fit in a slice of productivity when you're on a moving vehicle.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Joseph41 on February 26, 2020, 11:57:02 am
I've only finished my second official day of university and I already feel like Melbourne's public transport system will become one of the very few things I genuinely hate. Also, am I the only person who just sits on the train on the way to uni looking out the window? It's kind of hard to fit in a slice of productivity when you're on a moving vehicle.

Yeah I've never studied or anything on public transport. I tend to just listen to podcasts and watch the world.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on February 26, 2020, 12:21:54 pm
I've only finished my second official day of university and I already feel like Melbourne's public transport system will become one of the very few things I genuinely hate.
Welcome to the club lol (I hate PT and yet here I am, still using it to get to uni haha)

(I can be productive on trains and trams, but don't ask me about buses and being productive- I get too motionsick on those!)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: kjistsehrtot on March 10, 2020, 06:57:24 pm
damn, i'm late but last year sunbury line kept getting trains cancelled, i laughed at their misery, and watched as craigieburn got suspended for four hours and was forced to go on a tiny mernda train. lesson is to never be too cynical on ptv :((
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: SanchaTheSeeker on April 18, 2020, 06:01:58 pm
I've been waiting a while to be able to think of a decent reply to this thread, so here I am now.

Those who know me know that I'm OBSESSED with trains. Before COVID-19 I was on a train 7 days a week. Usually really cramped so I didn't do much on my commute besides listen to music and hope that I'd be able to get off my train without pushing and shoving my way through.

Melbourne's PTV is sort of decent I guess, I don't like the crap frequencies for regional trains and the earliest bus for me on a Sunday is around 9am or something.

I love V/Lines, just dislike their off-peak frequencies. Missed a Ballarat line V/Line by 10-15 minutes and had to wait 45 minutes at Southern Cross because going anywhere else wouldn't be worth it. Also.... why don't they depart from the same platform at SoCro every time grr

Grr and when are the HCMTs gonna be a thing on my line grr. They said mid-2019, now mid-2020

BTW Siemens > XTraps > Comengs
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on April 18, 2020, 09:07:40 pm
BTW Siemens > XTraps > Comengs
This is contentious :P

For me: XTraps > Siemens > rust buckets
(That being said, XTraps were introduced on my line in late 2016 from memory, and are still a novelty to me so -shrugs- haha)

I miss the sardine trains in the morning </3
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: SanchaTheSeeker on April 19, 2020, 09:06:40 pm
This is contentious :P

For me: XTraps > Siemens > rust buckets
(That being said, XTraps were introduced on my line in late 2016 from memory, and are still a novelty to me so -shrugs- haha)

I miss the sardine trains in the morning </3

They're too rocky. Can't count how many times I toppled over on an X-Trap from Richmond to Willison. There are no X-Traps on my line (Dandy line) so I'm glad that I won't be falling over people during rush hour
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on June 04, 2020, 07:26:52 am
Second day in a row I've caught a 'peak' train between 7:20 and 7:50 on the Werribee line. There's nearly noone on the train and honestly doesn't feel like peak 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: SanchaTheSeeker on June 20, 2020, 06:55:30 pm
Second day in a row I've caught a 'peak' train between 7:20 and 7:50 on the Werribee line. There's nearly noone on the train and honestly doesn't feel like peak 😅

Same bro, but I doubt they'll change peak times because they'll have to rechange it, but there are technically more people during these times than any other time, even now.
I actually get a seat, and the 601 bus usually runs empty or 3 people on it before school
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on June 21, 2020, 02:33:50 pm
Metro have decided to make Melbourne Central one way traffic as a trial this week (as in exit via the Elizabeth St exit, enter via Swanston St exit). Looks good on paper in theory, but in all honestly I think it's a pretty stupid idea for those connecting with trams at either exit, and not to mention that the "exit" way doesn't have the station lifts- so there goes any accesibility for those who need it.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: SanchaTheSeeker on June 21, 2020, 08:48:21 pm
Metro have decided to make Melbourne Central one way traffic as a trial this week (as in exit via the Elizabeth St exit, enter via Swanston St exit). Looks good on paper in theory, but in all honestly I think it's a pretty stupid idea for those connecting with trams at either exit, and not to mention that the "exit" way doesn't have the station lifts- so there goes any accesibility for those who need it.

Wait what - that's no - noooo
Can't wait to walk all the way around to go to Coles or TuteSmart if it does end up becoming a thing
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Bri MT on June 22, 2020, 10:48:43 am
Same bro, but I doubt they'll change peak times because they'll have to rechange it, but there are technically more people during these times than any other time, even now.
I actually get a seat, and the 601 bus usually runs empty or 3 people on it before school

I'm thinking about sitting one of my Monash online exams on campus so this is good news
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: SanchaTheSeeker on June 26, 2020, 02:40:51 am
I'm thinking about sitting one of my Monash online exams on campus so this is good news

Just avoid the ones after JMSS school hours unless you don't mind a bit of crampiness and loud chatter, you may even get to take one of those snazzy bendy buses! Before school is fine for me, but I get to school so early that we have to wait for someone to unlock the door
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on June 26, 2020, 10:35:45 am
Saw on the socials this morning that a cleaner at Flinders Street Station got diagnosed with the virus. 😬 apparently metro staff aren't happy 😅
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on July 17, 2020, 09:36:55 am
I've purposely taken to getting to uni shortly before 10 so that I can catch the only express train in the morning that goes from North Melbourne straight through to Royal Park. It takes a minute off my trip, but the thrill of skipping two stations makes it seem faster 😂
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: chemistrykind on July 17, 2020, 11:19:37 am
on a scale of 1-10, how safe do we feel abt taking pt rn gang?

(i gotta get down to the city later today and idk if i should ride or not)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on July 17, 2020, 11:30:58 am
on a scale of 1-10, how safe do we feel abt taking pt rn gang?

(i gotta get down to the city later today and idk if i should ride or not)
I found it pretty empty, and about 75-80% people are wearing masks (from my experience throughout the week) if that helps? :)
I'd say 8, provided you wash your hands and stuff?
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: beatroot on July 17, 2020, 06:34:38 pm
Took the bus for the first time in four months. It was such a weird experience.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Bri MT on July 17, 2020, 07:31:48 pm
Took the bus for the first time in four months. It was such a weird experience.

Were there many people?
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: K888 on July 17, 2020, 07:41:16 pm
Took the bus for the first time in four months. It was such a weird experience.
I don't think I've been on PT all year. Maybe caught the train once in Jan? When I eventually do go on PT again it'll feel so weird!
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: The Cat In The Hat on July 17, 2020, 09:21:57 pm
Feels odd to wear a mask on the train because maybe not enough physical distancing...
Spoiler
Then there are hardly any people on the train. I mean, myself the sole occupant type.
on a scale of 1-10, how safe do we feel abt taking pt rn gang?

(i gotta get down to the city later today and idk if i should ride or not)
I'd say probably around 7. Nevertheless, seriously wondering if I shouldn't.
75-80% people are wearing masks (from my experience throughout the week)
Where are you going on?? Round where I am, it's around maybe 20-30% using it, including me (real pest because how on earth are you meant to breathe?). Then you cough and get death glares from every corner.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on July 17, 2020, 09:47:21 pm
Feels odd to wear a mask on the train because maybe not enough physical distancing...
Spoiler
Then there are hardly any people on the train. I mean, myself the sole occupant type.
I'd say probably around 7. Nevertheless, seriously wondering if I shouldn't.Where are you going on?? Round where I am, it's around maybe 20-30% using it, including me (real pest because how on earth are you meant to breathe?). Then you cough and get death glares from every corner.
Out in western suburbs and then also inner city. You'd be surprised, but then again you just have to pick your times.

Masks aren't comfortable, but they're necessary to slow the spread, and I've been fine wearing one throughout the week. I won't comment further on this here so I don't derail :)
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: beatroot on July 17, 2020, 10:49:14 pm
Were there many people?

Not much. To be fair, I did use the bus after lunch on a weekday so I expected there to be little people on the bus (there was around 9 of us I think)

I do love the little green ‘sit here!’ stickers on Sydney buses. Love the fact that people can’t sit next to you on the bus anymore. Reduces the anxiety of having to let the person next to you you’re getting off the bus when you’re sitting in the window seat aha!

I don't think I've been on PT all year. Maybe caught the train once in Jan? When I eventually do go on PT again it'll feel so weird!

It'll definitely feel so weird within the first few minutes! I've been used to driving myself to places. I remember sitting in the bus today and being like "I can actually go to places without driving and having the pay attention to the road. All I have to do is sit back"

I was also surprised to see that I still had money left in my Opal card lmao
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: beatroot on December 26, 2020, 09:54:15 pm
Bump!

Holy heck I just remembered that my concession Opal card will be expiring very soon since I'm no longer a student. My bank account and I need to mentally prepare to pay the full adult fares on Sydney buses and trains :(
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 26, 2020, 10:33:06 pm
Bump!

Holy heck I just remembered that my concession Opal card will be expiring very soon since I'm no longer a student. My bank account and I need to mentally prepare to pay the full adult fares on Sydney buses and trains :(
Same here for Melbourne :(

I also took a 2h trip (one way) to grandpa's today and holy heck I forgot how wiping going basically across the city can be 🙈
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: Bri MT on December 27, 2020, 08:37:07 am
Bump!

Holy heck I just remembered that my concession Opal card will be expiring very soon since I'm no longer a student. My bank account and I need to mentally prepare to pay the full adult fares on Sydney buses and trains :(

This is reminding me I need to buy a new ptv tertiary student id since they expire every year (I think in Feb or March?). Just checked WES (Monash puts our form to print for it there) & we can't get new ones until Jan so I guess it'll have to wait
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: lm21074 on December 27, 2020, 09:58:23 am
When the Suburban Rail Loop would likely reduce your commute to uni by at least half an hour to an hour but you won't even be in uni by the time it's done :(

Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetcheeks on December 27, 2020, 01:06:40 pm
When the Suburban Rail Loop would likely reduce your commute to uni by at least half an hour to an hour but you won't even be in uni by the time it's done :(



Same with the Metro Tunnel. I'm alright as I live close to uni now, but it would have given me more options on where I could live. However, I'll be long gone from university, with two degrees, before its finished.

Also excited to see that the High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT's) are now in service as of today.
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on December 27, 2020, 05:44:38 pm
Same with the Metro Tunnel. I'm alright as I live close to uni now, but it would have given me more options on where I could live. However, I'll be long gone from university, with two degrees, before its finished.

Also excited to see that the High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT's) are now in service as of today.
I saw this on twitter - I follow all the rail fans on there haha
Title: Re: Public transport discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on March 07, 2021, 02:04:33 pm
I have such bad luck with trains

- missed one
- caught next one
- gets to next stop
- overheadpowerfault
- buses to anywhere at that stop: non-existent
- me: dammit 🤣