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Title: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:00:19 am
   
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Come Play!
                                               
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There are only two more days until the host of the 2022 World Cup is announced. Australia is in with a magnificent fighting chance. This is our one BIG chance to bring the FIFA World Cup to the greatest country in the world, Australia! Do your bit, sign up on the website, let your voice be heard! Get interested, get others interested! There's two days left to show FIFA, and the world, that we can host this magical event.

I implore all of you to change your social media Profile Picture, until the decision is made on the fast apporaching friday morning, to this:
                                                     
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Official Bid Website: http://www.australiabid.com.au/

"Like" the facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/ComePlay

Australia's football federation (FFA) has done everything within it's power to bring this glorious event to our shores. So let's cross our fingers, toes, and hope for the best!

Australia's final presentation is going to take place Wednesday 12am (midnight). Stream it live from www.fifa.com

The decision will be broadcasted live on ONE HD, SBS and FOXTEL Friday Morning at 1.50 AM.
There will be a live site at FedSquare for the announcement if you can brave the cold http://www.fedsquare.com/index.cfm?pageID=19&viewDate=2010-12-1&eventID=2187

Note: to those who are going to derail this thread re: scandels and bribes, do your due research first.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 01, 2010, 02:07:41 am
Damn English bid is fucked :(. Honestly don't know what goes through the mind of the British media sometimes, broadcasting the Panaroma investigation 3 days before the vote. Idiots.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:14:02 am
Damn English bid is fucked :(. Honestly don't know what goes through the mind of the British media sometimes, broadcasting the Panaroma investigation 3 days before the vote. Idiots.

Agreed. Yet they're still in with a good chance for 2018 - if they can get to the third round they will be in a great position. Have you signed up to our bid?
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 01, 2010, 02:14:51 am
Damn English bid is fucked :(. Honestly don't know what goes through the mind of the British media sometimes, broadcasting the Panaroma investigation 3 days before the vote. Idiots.

Agreed. Yet they're still in with a good chance for 2018 - if they can get to the third round they will be in a great position. Have you signed up to our bid?


I joined the facebook page if that counts
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 01, 2010, 02:21:53 am
Damn English bid is fucked :(. Honestly don't know what goes through the mind of the British media sometimes, broadcasting the Panaroma investigation 3 days before the vote. Idiots.

Agreed. Yet they're still in with a good chance for 2018 - if they can get to the third round they will be in a great position. Have you signed up to our bid?


I joined the facebook page if that counts
Do you have any connection with England?
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 01, 2010, 02:22:42 am
Only lived there until I was 14 :D
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 01, 2010, 02:25:53 am
Only lived there until I was 14 :D
Where? :)

 
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 01, 2010, 02:27:04 am
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:28:22 am
I joined the facebook page if that counts

Nice. Sign up here too!

Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 01, 2010, 03:09:22 am
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
  Lot of snow up there atm. There's a bit here, might be worth a photo by midnight :D
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: menashiiii on December 01, 2010, 11:23:16 am
england will win for sure. russia is a country still troubled by many hardships and with racism being a big problem in many parts i can't see them winning. and if we lose to qatar, i will flip!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 01, 2010, 11:30:29 am
I really hope Australia gets to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

As for the 2018 FIFA World Cup, I think England will also win. They have a lot of pulling power and it is considered as the "home of football" - England is steeped in football history - from Bobby Robson to David Beckham.

Also, with Russia - going from what I've seen on UEFA Champions League football (on TV), it seems pretty cold there - like -10 degrees or something. :P
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:15:10 pm
I really hope Australia gets to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

As for the 2018 FIFA World Cup, I think England will also win. They have a lot of pulling power and it is considered as the "home of football" - England is steeped in football history - from Bobby Robson to David Beckham.

Also, with Russia - going from what I've seen on UEFA Champions League football (on TV), it seems pretty cold there - like -10 degrees or something. :P

England "being the home of football" is not really as big a factor as one may think. The 22 ExCom who are voting are trying to secure the best bid for their nation, and confederation.

Come on guys, SIGN UP! SIGN UP! SIGN UP! Link: www.australiabid.com.au

Everyone do it!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 01, 2010, 02:17:35 pm
Am nervous as shit for this guys,

we better get it...
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:21:24 pm
Am nervous as shit for this guys,

we better get it...

It will be a big coup! We know we have the best technical bid, but it wont be easy, we are up against some SMART nations (see: qatar donating stadia to 3rd world countries).

What have you done to spruik our bid, MBBS? Have you changed your Facebook Profile Pic, have you updated your status to something Bid relating? 
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 02:34:55 pm
Our final  30min presentation is tonight, 11.50pm. It will be aired live on the hearldsun website. Do yourselves a favour and watch it!

Link: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/2022-world-cup-bid
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 01, 2010, 02:42:08 pm
Don'y have Facebook mate, I get emails from Ben Buckley all the time, I've signed up to heaps of crap supporting our bid.

I've supported the game since I was 6 years old sitting on the grandstand watching NSL games. There is no one who wants this more than me...
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 01, 2010, 02:46:39 pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/setback-for-australia-as-oceania-not-expected-to-vote-on-2022-world-cup/story-fn75ie93-1225963667263

gg
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 01, 2010, 03:06:05 pm
Don'y have Facebook mate, I get emails from Ben Buckley all the time, I've signed up to heaps of crap supporting our bid.

I've supported the game since I was 6 years old sitting on the grandstand watching NSL games. There is no one who wants this more than me...

If only all Australian's were like us! Getting quite nervous now!

Oh how I hope we dont screw up our final presentation tonight. Where are you watching it?
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: pi on December 01, 2010, 03:07:32 pm
Our final  30min presentation is tonight, 11.50pm. It will be aired live on the hearldsun website. Do yourselves a favour and watch it!

Link: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/2022-world-cup-bid

Nice, will watch for sure. Hope we win!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: uhmmaybe on December 01, 2010, 03:28:38 pm
Signed up!
Hopefully we get it :D 2022 is way too long a wait though.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 01, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
^^ It's well worth the wait mate.

Will be the biggest event in this country's history!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: uhmmaybe on December 01, 2010, 05:46:00 pm
^^ It's well worth the wait mate.

Will be the biggest event in this country's history!
Bigger than Sydney 2000!

Hoping to go to Brazil in 2014
And hopefully 2018 will be in Spain/Portugal :)
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 01, 2010, 05:46:50 pm
Far bigger,

I went Germany 06, hopefully Brazil 2014
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 01, 2010, 06:57:14 pm
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A cumulative total of 26 billion people, an average of approximately 400 million viewers watched per match. FIFA estimated that around 700 million viewers watched the World Cup final.

Seeing the amount of revenue and attention South Africa got for holding this year's World Cup, it would do wonders for Australia's economy and tourism. IMO if we were to get the rights to hold the FIFA 2022 World Cup, it would be the biggest event we've ever held in this country.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 02, 2010, 05:41:49 am
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
What kind of accent do you have? :)
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 02, 2010, 03:33:39 pm
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
What kind of accent do you have? :)

Lol it's mostly a Manc one, albeit not very strong. I guess it's been a little affected London and Ausralia, but not as much as you'd expect.

How're you enjoying the snow back home then?
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: doboman on December 02, 2010, 03:50:12 pm
What did you guys think of the video? The kangaroo etc?

Also, not long now. Sign up people!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: menashiiii on December 02, 2010, 08:56:02 pm
ehhhh it was okay. considering lowy has been in australia for 50 years, it wasnt a great speech.
lets hope we have moved ahead of the US thanks to morgan freemans gaffe;
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3255904/Star-Morgan-Freeman-is-lost-for-words-at-USA-World-Cup-2022-bid.html
and lets hope the exco voters havent been bribed much by moneybags qatar! :D
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 02, 2010, 09:00:05 pm
I think it is between us and Qatar.  Don't think the others will get it.

If I had to tip i'd say QATAR2022, just.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 02, 2010, 09:19:06 pm
Honestly Lowy has billions from his Westfield fortune. I sincerely hope each of the Exco members have received a few $1 million gift vouchers to Westfield outlets... Lowy has like 5 years till statistics say he's dead, surely a dollar or two can go missing. Btw, Morgan Freeman's gaffe will not cost USA anything, doubt they even noticed. FUCK QATAR, they poach all these mega-celebrities for their bid with their huge $$$$$$. Zizou, oh Zizous, why are you helping them ? :(

*Zidane is my fave player ever.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 03, 2010, 01:36:42 am
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
What kind of accent do you have? :)

Lol it's mostly a Manc one, albeit not very strong. I guess it's been a little affected London and Ausralia, but not as much as you'd expect.

How're you enjoying the snow back home then?
   Mine is normally standard home counties, but if I try to loosen my vowels, it comes out as an odd hybrid of English and Australian, or so people tell me.

 Snow is off and on atm, there was a nice cover of it last night though, reflected by the streetlights. And there's always the risk of only a few snowflakes stultifying the public transport systems.

 Where do your tribal footballing allegiances lie then?

    only hours (if that) to Judgement Day for 2018...
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 03, 2010, 01:45:05 am
well, time is now.  this is probably going to be disappointing.

hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 03, 2010, 01:48:59 am
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
What kind of accent do you have? :)

Lol it's mostly a Manc one, albeit not very strong. I guess it's been a little affected London and Ausralia, but not as much as you'd expect.

How're you enjoying the snow back home then?
   Mine is normally standard home counties, but if I try to loosen my vowels, it comes out as an odd hybrid of English and Australian, or so people tell me.

 Snow is off and on atm, there was a nice cover of it last night though, reflected by the streetlights. And there's always the risk of only a few snowflakes stultifying the public transport systems.

 Where do your tribal footballing allegiances lie then?

    only hours (if that) to Judgement Day for 2018...

Domestically I support Man United (gotta be the only one on VN who's not a glory supporter), internationally England (and Israel)
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 03, 2010, 01:52:05 am

 
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London
What kind of accent do you have? :)

Lol it's mostly a Manc one, albeit not very strong. I guess it's been a little affected London and Ausralia, but not as much as you'd expect.

How're you enjoying the snow back home then?
   Mine is normally standard home counties, but if I try to loosen my vowels, it comes out as an odd hybrid of English and Australian, or so people tell me.

 Snow is off and on atm, there was a nice cover of it last night though, reflected by the streetlights. And there's always the risk of only a few snowflakes stultifying the public transport systems.

 Where do your tribal footballing allegiances lie then?

    only hours (if that) to Judgement Day for 2018...

Domestically I support Man United (gotta be the only one on VN who's not a glory supporter), internationally England (and Israel)

 OK, I exonerate you, seeing as you lived in Manc for 12 years
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 03, 2010, 02:01:54 am
Unconfirmed report: Al Jazeera has revealed that Qatar will be announced host for 2022 World Cup.

Edit:  Also, official FIFA announcements have been delayed.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 03, 2010, 02:10:45 am
Rumor:  FIFA delegates sighted hugging Qatari officials at a hotel.

If this shit is true, FIFA is the most corrupt piece of shit organisation.

But hey, it wouldn't be the first time they screwed us (think back to 06 WC dive penalty)
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Gloamglozer on December 03, 2010, 02:12:26 am
Unconfirmed report: Al Jazeera has revealed that Qatar will be announced host for 2022 World Cup.

Edit:  Also, official FIFA announcements have been delayed.

Yeah, delayed because they haven't received the bribe "final confirmation" yet.  :P  Jokes.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 03, 2010, 02:37:41 am
Official:  Russia to host 2018 World Cup.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 03, 2010, 02:39:55 am
Russia FUCK.

Absolutely no way their bid was superior to England.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 03, 2010, 02:44:15 am
Official:  Qatar to host 2022 World Cup.

The World Cup will never come here it seems, well at least not any time soon. :(
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 03, 2010, 02:58:24 am

  Abramovich = oil billions
  Qatar          =       "
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 03, 2010, 03:10:05 am
LOL interview with Andy Harper on FoxSportsNews:

 "What won it for Qatar, don't say cash".
Harper: "...................."
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 03, 2010, 07:32:11 am
Oh Fuck you Qatar. Joke of a world cup. Never want to watch the WC again now...
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Russ on December 03, 2010, 07:59:27 am
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But hey, it wouldn't be the first time they screwed us (think back to 06 WC dive penalty)

That was a legit penalty *folds arms*

Holding the WC in a freezing climate and then a desert is an...interesting decision
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 03, 2010, 03:52:19 pm
Manchester until I was 12, then a couple of years in London



 What kind of accent do you have? :)

Lol it's mostly a Manc one, albeit not very strong. I guess it's been a little affected London and Ausralia, but not as much as you'd expect.

How're you enjoying the snow back home then?
   Mine is normally standard home counties, but if I try to loosen my vowels, it comes out as an odd hybrid of English and Australian, or so people tell me.

 Snow is off and on atm, there was a nice cover of it last night though, reflected by the streetlights. And there's always the risk of only a few snowflakes stultifying the public transport systems.

 Where do your tribal footballing allegiances lie then?

    only hours (if that) to Judgement Day for 2018...

Domestically I support Man United (gotta be the only one on VN who's not a glory supporter), internationally England (and Israel)

I take a lot of offence to this, my grandfather has supported United from 1958 onwards. I was born being the only one in my family with of football. My grandfather therefore had a profound effect on my decision on who to support. I've supported United from birth and I don't know that your passion for United is as strong as mine.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 04, 2010, 11:11:09 pm
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But hey, it wouldn't be the first time they screwed us (think back to 06 WC dive penalty)

That was a legit penalty *folds arms*


LOL.  Don't get me started.  They (FIFA or the ref, cannot remember) even apologied for it afterwards.

I have Italian heritage and I cannot stand their football team anymore.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:16:52 pm
^^
How can you say that man? I personally think Italy is one of the best teams to watch if you can get over their diving and general cunning antics. They defend so well, attack like clockwork. It's beautiful to watch.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 04, 2010, 11:19:05 pm
^^
How can you say that man? I personally think Italy is one of the best teams to watch if you can get over their diving and general cunning antics. They defend so well, attack like clockwork. It's beautiful to watch.

It is no different to cheating in VCE, which everyone on here is strongly against.

It pisses me off in AFL too.  Players diving for free kicks.  Absolute joke.

The diving and players rolling around on the floor like idiots is one of the biggest turnoffs in world football for me.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:21:56 pm
I don't know, I get over it. I follow the English game and diving is not so common over there. Yeh it can get annoying, but I think the Italian national representation - their diving = one of the best teams to watch in the world.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: stonecold on December 04, 2010, 11:23:42 pm
I don't know, I get over it. I follow the English game and diving is not so common over there. Yeh it can get annoying, but I think the Italian national representation - their diving = one of the best teams to watch in the world.

Oh yeah, they are good.  I just find it hard to swallow.  I agree on the EPL.  That stuff is amazing.  I'd love to watch it more often, but it's always on so late.  (and my team liverpool, well....  )
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 04, 2010, 11:27:28 pm
La Liga is also decent, though Barca and Real Madrid are always miles ahead. In the EPL, it's more open and interesting - you have 4 or 5 teams that can challenge for the top while with Spanish Football, FCB and Real are nearly always either first or second.

By the way, I go for Chelsea. :P - who themselves are in a bit of a slump.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:28:45 pm
yeh, I'm a huge Man United fan, but I don't get time during VCE etc, it just stuffs my sleeping pattern too much. La Liga is beautiful to watch, yet the dominance is boring and repetitive. Bundesliga is good for some entertainment if your a hardcore football fan.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 04, 2010, 11:32:48 pm
La Liga = total shite. It's a complete non competition. Last year, the 4th placed team was closer to being relegated than it was to winning the league. Barca and Madrid are just so far ahead of the competition, it's ridiculous. No other Spanish teams do well in Europe these days, because no other Spanish team is any good.

Watching La Liga football, other than Barca and Real, is painful.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:37:54 pm
Yitzi, the games are good to watch when they are competitive (Madrid or Barca away) yet the actual competition itself is dire. Can you say the Premier League from 1993-2000 was really any different? United winning 6 titles, 1 point in 94-95 (Bloody Hammers) and 1 point in 97-98 would have seen us champions 8 years in a row.

Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 04, 2010, 11:45:46 pm
La Liga = total shite. It's a complete non competition. Last year, the 4th placed team was closer to being relegated than it was to winning the league. Barca and Madrid are just so far ahead of the competition, it's ridiculous. No other Spanish teams do well in Europe these days, because no other Spanish team is any good.

Watching La Liga football, other than Barca and Real, is painful.

I agree with that entirely. It's more evenly spread in the EPL, you have smaller teams that can beat the so-called "bigger" teams (i.e. MU, Chelsea, Arsenal etc). In La Liga, that's less likely to occur. Also with La Liga, I think FCB and Real Madrid hold/have the majority of TV rights - gaining revenue from broadcasting etc, whereas in the EPL - all clubs are given a fair share of the revenue earned.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:50:02 pm
La Liga = total shite. It's a complete non competition. Last year, the 4th placed team was closer to being relegated than it was to winning the league. Barca and Madrid are just so far ahead of the competition, it's ridiculous. No other Spanish teams do well in Europe these days, because no other Spanish team is any good.

Watching La Liga football, other than Barca and Real, is painful.

I agree with that entirely. It's more evenly spread in the EPL, you have smaller teams that can beat the so-called "bigger" teams (i.e. MU, Chelsea, Arsenal etc). In La Liga, that's less likely to occur. Also with La Liga, I think FCB and Real Madrid hold/have the majority of TV rights - gaining revenue from broadcasting etc, whereas in the EPL - all clubs are given a fair share of the revenue earned.


Not true, the Premiership has a sliding scale system, higher you finish, more money you make from TV and that kinda stuff. I saw David Gill talking about this in an interview.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 04, 2010, 11:50:54 pm
93-2000 was 10 years ago. Right now, the EPL has never been more competitive, as shown by the number of points dropped by the top teams. In addition, I find that the lower teams in the EPL, the likes of Villa, Bolton, Blackburn etc play far more exciting and attractive football than the lower teams in La Liga, whose football tends to be incredibly slow and unimaginative.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 04, 2010, 11:52:33 pm
La Liga = total shite. It's a complete non competition. Last year, the 4th placed team was closer to being relegated than it was to winning the league. Barca and Madrid are just so far ahead of the competition, it's ridiculous. No other Spanish teams do well in Europe these days, because no other Spanish team is any good.

Watching La Liga football, other than Barca and Real, is painful.

I agree with that entirely. It's more evenly spread in the EPL, you have smaller teams that can beat the so-called "bigger" teams (i.e. MU, Chelsea, Arsenal etc). In La Liga, that's less likely to occur. Also with La Liga, I think FCB and Real Madrid hold/have the majority of TV rights - gaining revenue from broadcasting etc, whereas in the EPL - all clubs are given a fair share of the revenue earned.

Not true, the Premiership has a sliding scale system, higher you finish, more money you make from TV and that kinda stuff. I saw David Gill talking about this in an interview.


It's still far more even than in La Liga or in Serie A. United could make far far more than they do if the TV rights were sold indivdually.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:54:54 pm
Yes, La Liga's teams do sell their TV rights individually, that is a huge huge difference finance-wise.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 04, 2010, 11:56:24 pm
93-2000 was 10 years ago. Right now, the EPL has never been more competitive, as shown by the number of points dropped by the top teams. In addition, I find that the lower teams in the EPL, the likes of Villa, Bolton, Blackburn etc play far more exciting and attractive football than the lower teams in La Liga, whose football tends to be incredibly slow and unimaginative.

I don't watch lower league La Liga teams so I cannot comment. I personally think we are currently seeing a very very weak 'big 4.'
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 04, 2010, 11:56:52 pm

   What's France like? I remember it was fantastically exciting and unpredictable before Lyon came to the fore.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 05, 2010, 12:00:14 am
Marseille are doing well atm from memory. Lyon were strong a few seasons ago in Europe, but they aren't so strong these days. Marseille lost in the European Cup final in 04 to Porto if I remember correctly. It's a good league! Lyon has dominated but I think it has come to an end now.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Yitzi_K on December 05, 2010, 12:07:42 am
French football has come off the boil a bit. Their league may have become more competitive recently, but there are no French teams making headlines in Europe these days. Interestingly this has cononcided with the French national team falling to pieces.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 05, 2010, 01:23:25 am
French football has come off the boil a bit. Their league may have become more competitive recently, but there are no French teams making headlines in Europe these days. Interestingly this has cononcided with the French national team falling to pieces.
I think their world cup debacle was directly attributable to a coach who combined the diplomatic skills of Idi Amin with the tactical nous of Andre Maginot. They'll be fine under Blanc.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Russ on December 05, 2010, 08:36:47 am
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But hey, it wouldn't be the first time they screwed us (think back to 06 WC dive penalty)

That was a legit penalty *folds arms*


LOL.  Don't get me started.  They (FIFA or the ref, cannot remember) even apologied for it afterwards.

I have Italian heritage and I cannot stand their football team anymore.

Blatter apologised for Australia's exit, but didn't contradict the ref. It's a pretty cut and dried free kick, Neill went to ground rather than challenge for the ball properly. Grosso probably took the fall without trying too hard to stay up but there was contact.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 05, 2010, 09:54:14 am
The French teams in the UCL rarely do well, the exception being last season where Lyon reached the Semi-final - other than that, they generally can't get past the Round of 16. The former powerhouses of French football - i.e. Bordeaux, Lyon have fallen off - lost key players and all. Marseille have always been there and there abouts. It's interesting now as Stade Rennais FC are currently top, which most people wouldn't expect to see. Bordeaux currently sit 10th. The end to Lyon dominating was bound to come - these things are cyclical.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 05, 2010, 01:08:40 pm
I'd add that with the "top 2" Spanish teams - FC Barcelona and Real Madrid, that they have several world-class players in their team alone (i.e. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Kaka, Ozil etc). The other teams like Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal don't have the "Messis" and "Ronaldos" in their team. Most of the FC Barcelona team makes up the Spanish National Football team or are part of the Spanish set-up.

Even now, Barcelona and Real Madrid are 7 and 8 points in front of 3rd-placed Villarreal and it's not even halfway into the season.
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 05, 2010, 01:15:58 pm
The French teams in the UCL rarely do well, the exception being last season where Lyon reached the Semi-final - other than that, they generally can't get past the Round of 16. The former powerhouses of French football - i.e. Bordeaux, Lyon have fallen off - lost key players and all. Marseille have always been there and there abouts. It's interesting now as Stade Rennais FC are currently top, which most people wouldn't expect to see. Bordeaux currently sit 10th. The end to Lyon dominating was bound to come - these things are cyclical.
 Teams from small towns seem to do well in French football; in England, most towns the size of Auxerre, Sedan, Rennes and Troyes don't even have professional sides
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: kamil9876 on December 07, 2010, 12:23:56 am
All three players in the Ballon D'or shortlist are Barcelona youth products! As well as Guardiola for coach! Oh man can't wait to read the comments from Real fans and EPL fanboys here http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=849672&sec=global&cc=3436  My day just keeps getting better and better!
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 07, 2010, 12:25:22 am
No Sneijder????????
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: kamil9876 on December 07, 2010, 12:29:26 am
Him and Robben are very good but unfortunately there are only three places and you can't beat the Holy Trinity these days ;)
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: Russ on December 07, 2010, 10:26:50 am
Sneijder should be there over Iniesta
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MuggedByReality on December 07, 2010, 10:37:48 am
Sneijder should be there over Iniesta
  Iniesta > Xavi
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: MBBS on December 07, 2010, 10:48:08 am
Him and Robben are very good but unfortunately there are only three places and you can't beat the Holy Trinity these days ;)


Pretty sure Sneijder and Robben did beat that so called Holy Trinity last year, going on to win the Champions league.... ;)



Law Best Charlton - The real Holy Trinity
Title: Re: Come Play!
Post by: eeps on December 07, 2010, 12:59:03 pm
Whatever happened to Ribery?.. =\

I don't know how players like Rio Ferdinand and Kaka made it on the FIFA/FIFPro World XI shortlist, when both were injured and missed large chucks of last season and to an extent this season as well.

Good to see players like Ozil, Muller and Bale make the list. I find it interesting that Goalkeepers/Defenders rarely win the Ballon D'or, it's more or less Midfielders and Strikers who win it.

Messi to win again, I believe.