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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2017, 07:17:08 pm »
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Another one gone...



Fiona Nash is telling the senate right now she's a British citizen. She's a minister (can't for the life of me remember what for, probs irrelevant now anyway because lol bye, and a nationals member).


EDIT: lol she's Barnaby Joyce's deputy.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2017, 11:07:54 am »
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Another update


Xenophon now referring himself to High Court re possible British citizenship. He was automatically a Greek citizen by descent, but unlike his colleagues actually renounced before entering parliament. He's made jokes this week about not being a Greek or Cypriot citizen and was even so bold as to give a quote suggesting he was just to rile people up.

His father is a Cypriot which at the time of his birth was British territory. This could make Xenophon a British citizen by descent.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2017, 11:10:23 am »
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What do you expect to come out of all of this?

I expect another election in a year or two as too many people have left and there will be too much conflict within parliament.

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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2017, 01:16:10 pm »
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What do you expect to come out of all of this?

I expect another election in a year or two as too many people have left and there will be too much conflict within parliament.

Really unpredictable. A lot depends on the High Court's interpretation of s44.

Losing the senators wouldn't be a huge loss (though Xenophon would for his own party, given it's named after him).

Losing Barnaby Joyce or Ann Sudmalis could be a problem. They would both go to by-elections. If they lost either of those elections, they would be in trouble. On current polls, Ann Sudmalis' seat could be expected to swing to Labor, seeing the government lose their majority.
Likewise, Barnaby could be in trouble. He won with a very healthy majority, but one wonders what this latest kerfuffle would do to his popularity. No one could really say. If he had Tony Windsor run again (particularly if Barnaby decided not to stand...which could happen?), then he might be in trouble.

In that case, government would fall pretty quickly. It would be a minority government with a cross bench that doesn't like it, effectively.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 08:03:19 pm »
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One month ago it was quite comic that all those politicians were turning out to be dual citizens, now it's just bizarre. The fact that a foreign government got dragged into it makes it even worse. It's almost like getting up every morning thinking "whose day is it today?"
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2017, 11:12:46 am »
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Heads up friends, the High Court will decide on the citizenship issue TODAY.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2017, 02:36:10 pm »
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Could we see Labour in power from this?
Still going into the election, I don't see the Liberals getting another term after this debacle.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2017, 02:41:15 pm »
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Barnaby Joyce and four senators ruled ineligible in shock High Court Ruling
So, if Joyce has lost his seat, it goes to a by-election, and he can just re-win his seat because he's renounced his NZ citizenship? So in effect, nothing will have changed?

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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2017, 02:54:07 pm »
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I am most interested in Matt Canavan amongst all of this. Why has he been ruled eligible?

Edit: Most interested in him because I thought his whole "my mum signed me up for citizenship" debacle was amusing.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2017, 03:01:47 pm »
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Labor in power: no. Cathy McGowan has already agreed to support the government, so they have a majority.

Barnaby: pretty much, Kate. There’s a slight chance that he could lose the by-election, particularly if Tony Windsor tan again. You might remember him as the previous member of New England, who supported
 Julia Gillard’s government. He resigned in 2013. He recontested the election last year and got smashed by Barnaby.

Canavan: he changed his story about his mum. Basically he just likes to everyone because why not? In the end, he was allowed off because his citizenship was conferred to him by having an ancestor who was Italian. The high court ruled that this was a bit silly (in effect) and that he probably didn’t really have citizenship.
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2017, 03:03:02 pm »
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Love reading your posts on this thread, vox nihili.

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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2017, 09:06:34 pm »
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Alrighty fellas, since this is the general Australian politics thread, why don't we discuss some important issues facing Australia today!
Here are some topics:
-Mass Immigration
-Foreign Investment
-Safe Schools program
-Euthanasia
-How screwed our economy is

If anyone has any other topics I'd be happy to discuss them

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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2017, 09:41:41 pm »
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Alrighty fellas, since this is the general Australian politics thread, why don't we discuss some important issues facing Australia today!
Here are some topics:
-Mass Immigration
-Foreign Investment
-Safe Schools program
-Euthanasia
-How screwed our economy is

If anyone has any other topics I'd be happy to discuss them

Interesting you raise euthanasia, actually. For those not from Victoria, you might not know that we've just recently just seen a bill to legalise euthanasia pass our lower house. It's going to the upper house this week, where the government hopes it will pass and euthanasia will become law.

The bill itself provides for a fairly conservative approach to euthanasia, where the patient would have to jump through a number of hurdles. The critical requirement—and perhaps a source of contention among euthanasia advocates—is that the patient must have a prognosis limited to 12 months or less, which is fairly restrictive.

Love reading your posts on this thread, vox nihili.

Thanks mate :D
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Re: General Australian Politics Discussion
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2017, 04:30:55 pm »
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Senate President Stephen Parry is British and resigns......wow
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