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Uni Stuff => Faculties => Arts => Topic started by: Mr. Study on November 07, 2012, 09:08:15 pm

Title: Languages
Post by: Mr. Study on November 07, 2012, 09:08:15 pm
Hey guys!

Just weighing up my options for next year and I would really love to do a language.

Would anyone be able to tell me how languages are taught at university? Would you say rote learning is necessary?

If you have done a VCE - LOTE, Would you be able to tell me the differences between VCE and University?

Someone told me that languages at university are amazing but I just would like some other opinions.

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: RTandon on November 07, 2012, 09:25:08 pm
I would also like to know this.
I'm thinking of doing French, or maybe Chinese. I'm leaning more towards French, but let's see.
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: pyro-53 on November 07, 2012, 09:37:00 pm
Also what happen if you're starting as a beginner? Will it add more to your uni's workload?
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: aabattery on November 07, 2012, 09:53:53 pm
Languages at uni IS amazing (for me at least!) :)

I can only tell from my experience at Monash - not sure how Melbourne works, but I'm sure it is similar.

Uni languages start at different levels. If you haven't learnt the language at all, you start as a beginner (Level 1). If you have done a lang at VCE level, you would start at a higher level (they give you a very short assessment test at the beginning of the year to check your level) - either Level 3 or Level 5.
If you do a language in an Arts degree, it is just like completeing any Arts major. If you are not studying Arts, you can pick up a diploma of languages - in that language: this adds to your workload - ie you would have to overload (do 5 subjects instead of 4 in a semester). You need approval from your managing faculty to do a diploma as well.



Title: Re: Languages
Post by: saheh on November 07, 2012, 10:11:30 pm
This is something I'd love to do too...do you know if it's possible to do your course at one Uni, and then pick up a diploma of language outside, like at another Uni or course provider?
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: Fyrefly on November 08, 2012, 01:00:05 am
ie you would have to overload (do 5 subjects instead of 4 in a semester).

This is incorrect. Standard approach is that you study a normal load of 4 units a semester, but it takes you an extra year to graduate. Non-Arts students generally also have a few electives to play with, which offers an alternative way to fit in some language study without having to do a full-blown diploma.
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: brenden on November 08, 2012, 01:04:24 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 08, 2012, 01:28:31 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

I'm actually considering that one!
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: brenden on November 08, 2012, 01:31:22 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

I'm actually considering that one!
I thought it was only for beginners?
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 08, 2012, 01:45:06 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

I'm actually considering that one!
I thought it was only for beginners?

I am a beginner :p (I've done the first half of that course at ANU, but I cbf'd out of completing it, lol)
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: brenden on November 08, 2012, 01:49:33 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

I'm actually considering that one!
I thought it was only for beginners?

I am a beginner :p (I've done the first half of that course at ANU, but I cbf'd out of completing it, lol)
Ooooh cool, yeah do it! Then we can go talk in #latin and I can feed off of your knowledge.
Title: Re: Re: Languages
Post by: sodapop on November 08, 2012, 07:59:03 am
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

That sounds awesome! How would you apply as a year 12 graduate (who might not be going to UniMelb)?
Title: Re: Re: Languages
Post by: brenden on November 08, 2012, 09:47:27 pm
There's also a really awesome intensive Latin course for 7 weeks before the semester at Melb, worth 12 Monash points. (Totally doing it) if anyone was interested in that.

That sounds awesome! How would you apply as a year 12 graduate (who might not be going to UniMelb)?
I haven't got that far yet :P
I was going to call them or something.
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: aabattery on November 09, 2012, 01:21:43 pm
ie you would have to overload (do 5 subjects instead of 4 in a semester).

This is incorrect. Standard approach is that you study a normal load of 4 units a semester, but it takes you an extra year to graduate. Non-Arts students generally also have a few electives to play with, which offers an alternative way to fit in some language study without having to do a full-blown diploma.

Apologies. Didn't know that that was the standard approach! The few students I know doing languages are all overloading or its part of their degree - Arts or otherwise due to electives as mentioned.
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: saheh on November 10, 2012, 11:07:04 pm
I'm so interested in doing this. Except how do you go abut doing it when your uni doesn't offer it??
What are some good places that offer it online/outside normal school hours or something??
I'd love to do French or some European language
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: ninwa on November 11, 2012, 12:17:42 pm
What uni are you looking at that doesn't offer French?!
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: saheh on November 11, 2012, 12:40:12 pm
I'm going to VU, and they don't do language,
I've had a quick look at online courses, and rmit is like Italian and indo, deakin is similar, and others places have a partial on campus component, I dunno how it works for monash, but places like UNE, has some trimesters in campus :/ and then other places like Melbourne only offer it to kids studying there...
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: ninwa on November 11, 2012, 12:55:43 pm
Well, you can take a Monash Diploma in Languages with approval from your faculty. But if you're going to VU it's going to be a lot of commuting...
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: saheh on November 11, 2012, 01:12:21 pm
Yeah that's what I'm not liking... So I'm trying to find a fully online class..
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: ninwa on November 11, 2012, 11:22:59 pm
You probably won't, because a significant aspect of studying a language is oral communication, and you can't really get that online...
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: binders on November 13, 2012, 12:24:44 am
there's already been a FAQ thread on languages....
Languages at Monash FAQ
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: ninwa on November 13, 2012, 08:33:53 am
Very funny :P
Title: Re: Languages
Post by: binders on November 13, 2012, 01:04:23 pm
Actually, if you look past your understandable frustrated venting on the first page of that thread, it's actually got some useful information about languages at uni in it.