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HSC Stuff => HSC Subjects + Help => HSC English Stuff => Topic started by: jamonwindeyer on August 02, 2016, 11:58:04 am
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Here is the place to discuss the evils and glories of the Paper Two Trial Paper from CSSA!
Did you like the question for your text?
What was the best module for you?
Did your hand fall off?
PLEASE don't write the exam questions here - they are under security until week 5 for illness and misadventure students.
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Here is the place to discuss the evils and glories of the Paper Two Trial Paper from CSSA!
Did you like the question for your text?
What was the best module for you?
Did your hand fall off?
PLEASE don't write the exam questions here - they are under security until week 5 for illness and misadventure students.
Want to join in the conversation? Make a totally free account by clicking here, and get involved!
How to sum up this paper (or at least for me) --> confusing wording
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How to sum up this paper (or at least for me) --> confusing wording
Lol were they curveball questions?
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Lol were they curveball questions?
I'm not sure about that, moreso that they should have been okay questions, just the wording was really strange. Referencing things (at least as far as I remember) that weren't on the syllabus, and having the central focus for the Module B essay not fit very well for all of the topics - ie. TS. Eliot.
Actually you know what I think they were a little bit of a curveball. We'll see when we get marks back, maybe it was less complicated than I thought hahaha
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I'm not sure about that, moreso that they should have been okay questions, just the wording was really strange. Referencing things (at least as far as I remember) that weren't on the syllabus, and having the central focus for the Module B essay not fit very well for all of the topics - ie. TS. Eliot.
Actually you know what I think they were a little bit of a curveball. We'll see when we get marks back, maybe it was less complicated than I thought hahaha
Last year they made us analyse Journey of the Magi for Eliot. 95% of the cohort died.
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Last year they made us analyse Journey of the Magi for Eliot. 95% of the cohort died.
Hahaha I would have been okay with that actually, Hollow Man was my fear.
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How to sum up this paper (or at least for me) --> confusing wording
Did you feel like they wanted you to write about 5 things at once?
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Did you feel like they wanted you to write about 5 things at once?
yep! hahaha, or stuff that we don't normally relate to these topics.
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Maybe if I read the question properly for module A I would have not struggled
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Module C was the weirdest (people and landscapes). They gave us a quote and then asked us this weird extraneous question without asking us tie it in. That one will be interesting...
But I found Module A, while being weirdly specific about relating 1984 to Metropolis was okay. Hamlet for Mod B was nice and simple but :)
(hope that isn't too much detail on the questions, although if schools still want their kids to do the same paper they better hope they don't have facebook)
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Module C was the weirdest (people and landscapes). They gave us a quote and then asked us this weird extraneous question without asking us tie it in. That one will be interesting...
Yeah similar issue with people, power and politics. Though in theory it shouldn't have been that difficult, you really had to stare at the question for a while to understand what was going on.
(hope that isn't too much detail on the questions, although if schools still want their kids to do the same paper they better hope they don't have facebook)
I know aye! Looking at you HSC discussion group 2016 ::)
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(hope that isn't too much detail on the questions, although if schools still want their kids to do the same paper they better hope they don't have facebook)
CSSA requires schools to use a different exam if it isn't sat on the day, so generic comments like that are fine! ;D just no specific questions or anything close to it until the security period is lifted in a couple of weeks ;D
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Last year they made us analyse Journey of the Magi for Eliot. 95% of the cohort died.
Wait what! Was this for short answer response or what?
Shouldn't paper 2 be on the modules?
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Wait what! Was this for short answer response or what?
Shouldn't paper 2 be on the modules?
T.S. Eliot is one of the options for Module B :)
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My complaints about Paper 2 ;D (Oh here we go :P)
Mod A: Richard III and LFR. What!?! I had trouble seeing where this fit into the stimulus
Mod B: Cloudstreet. Wow!! So specific (only 2 characters?) for a 4-5 page response!
Mod C: definitely easiest for Art of Travel it went well, didnt link all that well with my ort.
My opinion: Paper 1 was kinder (did he just say that? ;D)
At least i managed to get at least 4 pages out for each (with approximately 15 seconds to spare :P)
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My complaints about Paper 2 ;D (Oh here we go :P)
Mod A: Richard III and LFR. What!?! I had trouble seeing where this fit into the stimulus
Mod B: Cloudstreet. Wow!! So specific (only 2 characters?) for a 4-5 page response!
Mod C: definitely easiest for Art of Travel it went well, didnt link all that well with my ort.
My opinion: Paper 1 was kinder (did he just say that? ;D)
At least i managed to get at least 4 pages out for each (with approximately 15 seconds to spare :P)
Definitely sounds like an extremely specific Module B question. I studied poetry, and I don't know what the poetry question was. But, if it was my novel study, I would have been screweeeeed.
Just sent you a PM about Mod A.
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Definitely sounds like an extremely specific Module B question. I studied poetry, and I don't know what the poetry question was. But, if it was my novel study, I would have been screweeeeed.
Just sent you a PM about Mod A.
Replied to your PM :)
I did poetry for AoS, which suits me quite fine. I would find it hard to do a weighty text plus an ort for Paper 1. (Unless I had to do it lol)
That being said though, Mod A isnt that kind -- Shakespeare and film :(
Neither is Mod B though- normally it works well, a critical text for a critical study. Doesnt help though when the question is so specific i can only use 2 characters from the text (of many...)
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The metro-84 question was weird... :(
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The metro-84 question was weird... :(
Welcome to the forums Ahbelle!! Be sure to let me know if you need help finding anything ;D
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I didn't really understand the question for Mod A whilst i liked Mod B and mod C was decent. i don't know how i managed to remember my quotes during the exam. The main thing is that i finished my essay with 5 or so minutes to edit my work.
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I didn't really understand the question for Mod A whilst i liked Mod B and mod C was decent. i don't know how i managed to remember my quotes during the exam. The main thing is that i finished my essay with 5 or so minutes to edit my work.
Well thats lucky for you that you had time to edit your work :) I barely had time to write my student number on (the supervisor had to look over my last 2 booklets of signatures :P) So if you had 5 minutes of editing, that is great!!
I have already given my opinions on the Modules so to keep myself from doubling up i will just stop here ;D
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I actually liked Mod A and Mod B because I enjoy figuring out weird theses! (although by the last para of each essay I was making absolutely zero sense, idk why :-\) Mod C on the other hand, we had just started a week ago, I had like 10 quotes all from the first Act, and by the time I realised they were all from page 19... I had written my entire essay and it sounded like a pile of crap. But hey, it least it's over.
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I actually liked Mod A and Mod B because I enjoy figuring out weird theses! (although by the last para of each essay I was making absolutely zero sense, idk why :-\) Mod C on the other hand, we had just started a week ago, I had like 10 quotes all from the first Act, and by the time I realised they were all from page 19... I had written my entire essay and it sounded like a pile of crap. But hey, it least it's over.
I loved that about English as well! ;D
I am sure you did really well, don't stress, I bet your essay sounds better than you give yourself credit for!! And there is plenty of time to add some diversity in your quote bank for the HSC, so no dramas! ;D
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Since security period is over; let me make you all feel a little better about your selves.
For module A I read MORALITY instead of MORTALITY. So I wrote 2 paragraphs about human relationships and 2 about death... Thank God I wrote something about death at least that got me a 10/20.
OH YH AND I NEVER REALISED TILL I OVER HEARD A FRIEND SAYING MORTALITY
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Since security period is over; let me make you all feel a little better about your selves.
For module A I read MORALITY instead of MORTALITY. So I wrote 2 paragraphs about human relationships and 2 about death... Thank God I wrote something about death at least that got me a 10/20.
OH YH AND I NEVER REALISED TILL I OVER HEARD A FRIEND SAYING MORTALITY
Oh no!! Wow what a slip up! Good thing you still managed to pass your Mod A tho. What did you do for mod a? I did the Richards (KR3 and LFR) and the question said about the nature of authority, wrote about power instead and still managed to pull out a 13/20.
Anyone else got marks back? Especially for
Mod A- King Richard and Looking For Richard
Mod B- Cloudstreet
Mod C- Art of Travel
but also for any others :)
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Mod A- John Donne's poetry and Margret Edson's play w;t
ModB- speeches
ModC- Brave New World
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Haha, :) I might be known as the one who opened my mouth before the strict CSSA security period (teachers forgot to mention it!) were over.
My question was that when exploring the nature of hope for module a, can we speak about the lack of hope in a dystopian word? My whole class interpreted it this way and hence our average mark for that section went down oh well
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Haha, :) I might be known as the one who opened my mouth before the strict CSSA security period (teachers forgot to mention it!) were over.
My question was that when exploring the nature of hope for module a, can we speak about the lack of hope in a dystopian word? My whole class interpreted it this way and hence our average mark for that section went down oh well
It seems like a fair interpretation to me! As long as it is set up correctly, but I suppose it is a little off track from the aim of the question, it would be more difficult to justify :)
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Yeah I guess so, so for an "explore"question you cannot challenge the questions or statement given?
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Yeah I guess so, so for an "explore"question you cannot challenge the questions or statement given?
You can, but you need to do so without going off track, which can be tricky. Like, you can't disagree with the statement and then proceed to do your own thing, you need to continue on the same topic. For example, an exploration of the nature of hope that then focuses heavily on the nature dystopian texts (while still tying in hope), has gone off track. It's a delicate balance. To be honest, the best person to speak to about this would be Jake, he made a living (in English marks) from disagreeing with the presented statements, it worked really well for him! I'll ask him to stop in and weigh in ;D
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You can, but you need to do so without going off track, which can be tricky. Like, you can't disagree with the statement and then proceed to do your own thing, you need to continue on the same topic. For example, an exploration of the nature of hope that then focuses heavily on the nature dystopian texts (while still tying in hope), has gone off track. It's a delicate balance. To be honest, the best person to speak to about this would be Jake, he made a living (in English marks) from disagreeing with the presented statements, it worked really well for him! I'll ask him to stop in and weigh in ;D
I love disagreeing with texts and I find that I do better (mostly) than if I had to agree with text!
I always have one small part that can seem like almost an agreeance (idk why, just happens like that) but the rest of the essay is mainly tearing the stimulus to shreds.
I think the reason I love disagreeing so much though is kind of a revenge thing for the markers, a fight back "I dont agree with your stimulus" hahaha such a rebel ;D ;D
Real sense of satisfaction though.
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Cant find the CSSA english standard/advanced 2016 paper online. Have you guys got the questions or links?
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Cant find the CSSA english standard/advanced 2016 paper online. Have you guys got the questions or links?
Hi! CSSA papers (and other trial papers) aren't distributed online due to copyright reasons, and for that reason we don't distribute past papers here on AN. Sorry!