Can I still get quasi-50?

[99.90 pls]

Hi AN,

Got my oral SAC back today. Ended up with an A. I'm not usually one to whinge about SAC scores; if I receive a poor result, I'll usually accept it because it was my fault.

In this case though, I genuinely believed that I was marked inconsistently. It may sound arrogant but my speech was pretty well-received and this was reflected in the comments my teacher wrote.



The rest of the class received mostly As and A+s, while a small minority received B+, putting me well under the rank I'm striving for.

I asked my teacher about the result and she was quite vague and only tried to console me by saying that our school's SACs are moderated upwards... Is there any way I can ask for a review of the mark? Is it still possible to get 50 or near 50 if I ace my other SACs?

Thanks.

[shadows]

Ask your teacher what you needed to improve on to get an A+

[99.90 pls]

Ask your teacher what you needed to improve on to get an A+

I did and she just repeated what she wrote on my mark sheet, which I've now attached to my original post.

It doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme of things, especially since the oral is only worth 20 marks out of 100 for Unit 3. The cut-off for A+ was 84/100 in 2013, and those were moderated scores.

I'd personally just let it go, but I'm sure you could speak to your English teacher again and English coordinator if you really wanted a review.

Thanks for the consolation, I appreciate it. I'll try and talk to both, I suppose. I don't want to make out like a whinger and make her hate me for the rest of the year though, so there's a fine balance to be struck :/

[IntelxD]

Hi AN,

Got my oral SAC back today. Ended up with an A. I'm not usually one to whinge about SAC scores; if I receive a poor result, I'll usually accept it because it was my fault.

In this case though, I genuinely believed that I was marked inconsistently. It may sound arrogant but my speech was extremely well-received and this was reflected in the comments my teacher wrote.

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The rest of the class received mostly As and A+s, while a small minority received B+, putting me well under the rank I'm striving for.

I asked my teacher about the result and she was incredibly vague and only tried to console me by saying that our school's SACs are moderated upwards... Is there any way I can ask for a review of the mark? Is it still possible to get 50 or near 50 if I ace my other SACs?

Thanks.

Your performance on one SAC will not determine your chances of getting a 50. This is only your first SAC and quite fortunately for you, it is the one with the smallest weighting. You will have countless opportunities to redeem yourself and improve your overall ranking within your cohort. You should also note that you do not necessarily need to be ranked first to score a 50. I understand your qualms however I urge you to focus on the future instead of dwelling on the past. Unless you truly feel that a review will improve your result, forget it and move on.

[M_BONG]

Yes. You can still get a 50................

Also, take note that the Oral is worth very little in the grand scheme of things. The difference between an A and an A+ for this SAC is, at most, 2 marks. Considering the difference between A and A+ in Unit 4 is 5 marks, you really shouldn't be worrying at all. I know you might be worried about ranking and that is indeed a legitimate concern but since all the SAC marks for each unit are added together, you can easily make up for it.

PS: Judging by the feedback she gave you, you might want to get more info regarding this since her comments are extremely, extremely generic and don't tell you where you went wrong at all.  SAC marks can't change; but the way your teacher gives feedback can.

[99.90 pls]

Your performance on one SAC will not determine your chances of getting a 50. This is only your first SAC and quite fortunately for you, it is the one with the smallest weighting. You will have countless opportunities to redeem yourself and improve your overall ranking within your cohort. You should also note that you do not necessarily need to be ranked first to score a 50. I understand your qualms however I urge you to focus on the future instead of dwelling on the past. Unless you truly feel that a review will improve your result, forget it and move on.

Thanks for the consolation; I was under the impression that you had to have 100/100/60 for your 3 GAs to receive a 50 but I suppose you're right. I do think a review may improve my result though. Even if I end up gaining one extra mark, it could mean a lot in the long run.

Yes. You can still get a 50................

Also, take note that the Oral is worth very little in the grand scheme of things. The difference between an A and an A+ for this SAC is, at most, 2 marks. Considering the difference between A and A+ in Unit 4 is 5 marks, you really shouldn't be worrying at all. I know you might be worried about ranking and that is indeed a legitimate concern but since all the SAC marks for each unit are added together, you can easily make up for it.

PS: Judging by the feedback she gave you, you might want to get more info regarding this since her comments are extremely, extremely generic and don't tell you where you went wrong at all.  SAC marks can't change; but the way your teacher gives feedback can.

2 marks is a pretty large difference though, isn't it? But point taken, I suppose. And yes, I'll definitely be chasing her up for feedback, because the comments she wrote for me are, in my opinion, not really indicative of an A.

[thushan]

I'm noting the school you go to, and my understanding is that your school SACs get marked up ridiculously. If your school has an extremely high standard for A+ compared to the state, your SACs will be moderated to a high A+.

[99.90 pls]

I'm noting the school you go to, and my understanding is that your school SACs get marked up ridiculously. If your school has an extremely high standard for A+ compared to the state, your SACs will be moderated to a high A+.

Thanks Thushan, although I think the standard isn't that high, considering at least half the class got A or above...

[evelynandrews]

One SAC score doesn't mean you can't get a 50. I got a 50 and a premiers award in 2013 with a less than desirable first SAC score (not even an A)- it's all about how you handle yourself from here! After that SAC I didn't drop a mark for the rest of the year. You don't even have to be ranked first or go to a top ranked school; neither of those were true in my case. So try not to worry yourself with rankings and scaling: just try to get every mark you can, while you can. 

[zyzz101]

sshhhhhh.... dont tell anyone but literally lauren got a 12/20 for her first practice essay for context in yr 12. needless to say, she has become the beyonce of english since then!

[literally lauren]

Beyonce is not a standard unit of measurement, you guys...

OP, no sense fussing over numerical SAC scores as you can always climb back from them. I lost my voice the day before the Year 12 oral and accidentally dropped my cue cards way too many times. I also screwed up the first Context SAC so hard, I essentially gave up on the possibility of scoring highly for English and just wrote fun, interesting stuff within the boundaries of the criteria.

Fair warning, some of the smartest people I know got 42 for English. And in my humble opinion, they can write WAY better essays than me. In fact we had a couple of students who were very English inclined and scored well all year, but the prompts weren't in their favour, or they were having an off day one too many times, and they'd end up with a 45 or 46.
(And I know these are all amazing scores for a lot of people, but we all have our own standards, and these particular students were devastated because they felt they deserved more.)

So whilst I admire your motivation, don't let that "50 or bust" attitude get the better of you. Aim high, but be aware that some things are out of your control.

[EvangelionZeta]

All the way back in 2009 at my old high school, a student got a B+ in the oral SAC because he couldn't be bothered writing out notes for it.  In a cohort of around 200, the average (MEDIAN and MEAN) mark for that SAC was an A+.  Said student got a 50.

[OutstandingInDivination]

A friend of mine (from MHS) got a B+ on that sac and got 49. I'm sure you will be fine.

[Shenz0r]

There was a guy in the year above me who got C+ on his Year 11 grades as well as his first 3/4 SAC, he ended up getting 47 in English. Getting an A or A+ at MHS really doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Thanks Thushan, although I think the standard isn't that high, considering at least half the class got A or above...

While A may be average in your class, remember that the standards you're held up to are very different from other schools.

[g1mp1e]

Marotus scam gg
OT: this sac doesn't mean anything, guy last year got b+ on all his sacs (had Marotus) aced exam and got 50 so ez dw bout it