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National Education => Admissions tests => UMAT => Topic started by: nerd on July 18, 2009, 11:48:02 pm
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Could someone please upload the ACER UMAT Practice Questions Vol 1 and 2 and Practice Test?
In exchange, here is a guide that I have for Section 1 of the UMAT. Enjoy!
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I highly doubt that anyone will upload that because it is only available in hard copy as in you have to purchase it from ACER, hence will have to scan it, however, the pages are in A3 format, therefore, it is troublesome to scan, consequently, it is not possible.
:)
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And apparently the ACER ones are easier than the actual UMAT, dont waste your time on those, do the other ones.
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i'm doing medentry atm and there seems to be a bit of contradiction going on. The guide above discourages speed reading in the UMAT while MedEntry seems to support it, saying that it is helpful. MedEntry discourages subvocalising but here the guide above is encouraging us to. This confuses me. :( So, what does everybody think about speed reading and subvocalising?
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ouch, my head hurts already.
what is subvocalising?
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ouch, my head hurts already.
what is subvocalising?
to sound out words in your head without making a sound.
umm well you need to speed read quite a bit in section 1 to find and seperate relevant and nonrelevant info. for the question, but at the same time you need to also be very careful when reading to understand as much as possible
ive done one drill for section 1 but i can speed read very well and did terrible, it makes no sense and i cannot understand it - it'll definitely be my weakest point :(
we have time to improve, so find what works for you!
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yeah, i'm gonna need to improve for section 1 especially.
but what difference does it make whether or not you sound things out in your head or with your lips?
and speed reading, although I know nothing about it, sounds like a bit of a gimmick to me. how are you supposed to sort relevant info and key words from useless garbage when you are trying to race through the question.
i'm curious though lol. i guess i'll check it out.
anyone who has done the umat if you could shed some light, that would be great. :)
edit: judging by the fact that we're going to need to get through 44 question in 65 minutes, we're gonna have to learn how to speed read :(
each question has to be solved in no more than 1:15 to 1:30 secs. *sobs*
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^ hahah yeah that's waht i meant by speed reading is necessary
we have time stonecold!!! so its ok:)
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yeah. like someone else said, UMAT prep is going to be my sixth subject lol. i don't think the questions themselves will be the problem, it will be learning to work within the strict time constraints that will be the most challenging. i would hate to walk out not having attempted every question.
i'm pretty sure i've got section 3 covered though. :)
why cant the whole paper be like that!
tbh, the part I am least looking forward to is applying to all the different uni's in aus. it will be a massive drag...
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yeah especially for section 1 the time constraints is gonna be hard as.
practice makes perfect so perhaps soon we will be able to finish with minutes to go.
haha section 3? i found that section annoying, section 2 was what i think i have covered :P
ooh, are you applying for every uni in australia? there's so many..
im only applying for 3 including monash.
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i will apply to the 5 or 6 uni's that have 5 year undergrad mbbs for sure. the six year mbbs ones as well if i can transfer after a year. I really want to do med, as you can probably already tell...
and lol i dunno, i have always liked those visual type questions from when i was little. i remember doing the national iq test when it was on tv rofl.
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i will apply to the 5 or 6 uni's that have 5 year undergrad mbbs for sure. the six year mbbs ones as well if i can transfer after a year. I really want to do med, as you can probably already tell...
and lol i dunno, i have always liked those visual type questions from when i was little. i remember doing the national iq test when it was on tv rofl.
transfer after a year of a 6-year? what do you mean?
haha same here i want to do it realllyy bad.
does that mean your also applying for Bond?
hah i see. its very iq'est that section isn't it. i was recommended to try MENSA tests in preparation for it!
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o0o0o what is mensa?
and yeah that section is all pick the next image in the sequence/odd one out/missing picture etc.
I mean hopefully transfer after my first year back to monash if I get good enough grades. do you know if I can do that.
and if my dad is willing to pay for bond, then i'm happy to go there lol. but there are no CSP's there, and you said something about hospitals giving internships to CSP studetns before FFP students, so that may be a last resort.
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o0o0o what is mensa?
and yeah that section is all pick the next image in the sequence/odd one out/missing picture etc.
I mean hopefully transfer after my first year back to monash if I get good enough grades. do you know if I can do that.
and if my dad is willing to pay for bond, then i'm happy to go there lol. but there are no CSP's there, and you said something about hospitals giving internships to CSP studetns before FFP students, so that may be a last resort.
mensa is like this high IQ society, search it- the practice for section 3 is IQ tests from MENSA.
umm there are no transfers into monash, once you start tertiary education you can't even apply for monash anymore. most universities are non-credit, non-transfer into. so it's either a 5 or 6 medical program. i'm sure if you do quite well in the umat, you'll get a high ENTER anyways so you will defs get into at least one, perhaps UWS or Bond as they are easier then most. particularly bond.
also, with UTAS which is a 5-year course, for interstate applicants you need a UMAT 99%ile or 100%ile unless you have commenced a year of uni, so no need to apply for that if you dont get that high :P
that makes applications a bit easier. haha
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really? my CAE co-ord, (who seems like a goose) told me that I could go to Adelaide for a year then i could come back to melb to finish it off. lying bitch! :P
i'll prob just apply for these 5 then, they are all 5 year undergrad mbbs:
-monash uni
-uni Western sydney
-uni tasmania
-bond uni (qld)
-uni of newcastle (nsw)
probably minus any of the ones that need 98+ UMAT scores lol
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hah yep there's definitely no credit/transfers to monash MBBS.
well yeah UTAS is 99/100%ile for interstate school leaver applications as they only accept 5 per year but there second round offers can be a bit lower, but it's not too common.
i suggest going through the http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=4015 here as i suggested awhile ago if you have it working and finding the 5-year ones you like. im sure with your scores and if you do well in the interview you'll be fine with atleast one :)
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hehe yeah I already did it, they are the five year ones I posted before.
are you aiming for 5-year as well?
if i don't get in what do you reckon is the best option?
-take a gap year and apply for 5 year mbbs again for 2012 (maybe do vce again? and obviously umat too)
-apply for 6 year mbbs as well, and do that if i get in
-do biomed for 3 years and then do DM at for 4 year at UoM
too much to think about lol
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^^ that is soo confusing :P why dont u guys wanna do biomed?
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superflya- graduate entry is actually more competitive and going a 3-year bachelor's degree keeping a very high 'competetive' average is tiresome in conjunction with (in 3rd or 2nd year) studying for a GAMSAT exam that plays a part in your entry for graduate med. but you wont need to GAMSAT if 99+ to apply for UoM, just a 75%+ and well at the interview, but we dont know how 'true' that is as UoM is probably the most prestigious medical school in australia but hmm.
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nah the three unis i want to go to consist of two which are 6 years. but i also like a 4th uni which is also 6 year haha.
what's DM btw?
i'd suggest (even though im sure you'd get in somewhere, there's no way bond especially would deny if high UMAT/ENTER) to either
* work on the UMAT during the year somemore, do an extra 2 subjects or even just one to raise your ENTER/UMAT, and work a bit to get some money to apply for those unis again, and you'll definitely get a place somewhere
* if your scores are all high enough, take the year off to relax and such, going away, working full time... then apply for those unis again
* or you can do one year of a bachelor's degree and apply for bond, UTAS with a high GPA (if you study hard) and you'll most likely get a place if you have a high UMAT. since UTAS doesn't have an interview, if you have a high GPA and do well on the UMAT you'll most likely know your in.
its all up to you haha
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@ superflya
because biomed plus medical degree takes 7 years, whereas med degree on it's own takes 5 or 6 years depending on where you go to uni.
@ vexx
more subjects? my coordinator already is flipping that I am doing 5 lol. unless you mean next year? i think you mean next year lol.
end of the day there is no point worrying about it because at the end of the day if I miss out, it will be a minimum of 6 years after school anyway.
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^ yeah i meant an extra subject the following year.. lol
study hard this year for your subjects and UMAT, you'll defs get in a 5 -year degree somewhere if so!
yep good don't worry :)
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hehe. were gonna motivate each other and this time next year we're both gonna have offers for mbbs at monash (Y)
and DM = Doctor of Medicine
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hehe. were gonna motivate each other and this time next year we're both gonna have offers for mbbs at monash (Y)
and DM = Doctor of Medicine
haha yes!! hopefully we will have offers from a few places so we can choose and it'll be awesome;)
we will be fine- goodluck to us !
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id rather do 3 years of biomed then go to adelaide, coodnt stand a week in that place..too posh for my likings :P
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id rather do 3 years of biomed then go to adelaide, coodnt stand a week in that place..too posh for my likings :P
haha adelaide?
i've never been there so i'm not sure but i thought it was really bogan!?
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if i have to leave melbourne (which short of a miracle, will most likely be the case) ideally I wan't to go to UWS for 5 year mbbs.
and yeah, adelaide seems boring. and they only have 6 year mbbs anyway. I would rather do 6 year mbbs in WA. it is pretty sweet over there.
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id rather do 3 years of biomed then go to adelaide, coodnt stand a week in that place..too posh for my likings :P
haha adelaide?
i've never been there so i'm not sure but i thought it was really bogan!?
rich poshy bogans EVERYWHERE.........*spews* :P
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stonecold- why UWS? the thing i don't like about that is they don't have college haha
superfly- haha whaaat, i don't know anything about adelaide, i will visit it soooon to see for myself.. did u live there or someting??
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lol nah so greatful i didnt live there, went there for a holiday last year.
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i don't really know why vexx, but western sydney is close to the city yeah?
plus if I ever need to come back to melb, it is pretty close.
what do you mean they don't have college?
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haha nah stonecold Western Sydney is in the country'ish area =P its about an hour from the city, so not too far .. UNSW and USYD are the only two med schools in the city.
umm UWS doesn't have college, it has places you can live, like mini-houses that you share with a few people and you cook, clean, ect=not college.
but its a new med school and i really like the course, just i can't move out if not in college just yet -- too lazy to do all that stuff :P shouldnt be too hard though hha
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whoa, you now heaps!
monash is looking better and better by the minute. tas is gone unless we have a umat miracle, and i don't really like uws anymore, and bond only has FFP places. I'd still take a spot at them though if I had too lol.
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^ hahaha.
what about the JMP for UNE/UNCLE? that's 5 years and they have colleges:) it could be fun.
i quite like the idea of moving away for uni as then i get the whole college experience. only time can tell what we really want & what we can get into!
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i agree, uni interstate would be awesome. can rule out bond though, total course cost is $273,714 rofl. i don't think so :(
no wonder it is easier to get in there!
also, say if I decide to do a six year degree interstate in 2011, I can't apply at monash for 2012 and start my degree over again there?
if that is the case then i suppose I will just apply for 5 year mbbs at monash, uws, une/uncle and uni tas. Maybe uni qld as well because they have a 6 year BSc/MBBS double degree.
if I don't get into any, then I suppose I'll just take a gap year.
.....and une looks cool. they have the whole college thing, but where is armidale. sounds far!
http://www.une.edu.au/about/living/
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i agree, uni interstate would be awesome. can rule out bond though, total course cost is $273,714 rofl. i don't think so :(
no wonder it is easier to get in there!
Bond looked like a nice uni ... UNTIL I SAW THE FEES :P
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i agree, uni interstate would be awesome. can rule out bond though, total course cost is $273,714 rofl. i don't think so :(
no wonder it is easier to get in there!
Bond looked like a nice uni ... UNTIL I SAW THE FEES :P
.....i nearly died when i saw them!
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i agree, uni interstate would be awesome. can rule out bond though, total course cost is $273,714 rofl. i don't think so :(
no wonder it is easier to get in there!
Bond looked like a nice uni ... UNTIL I SAW THE FEES :P
.....i nearly died when i saw them!
Same. At our careers night, heaps of uni reps came to our school and I had a nice long chat to the Bond rep.
Towards the end, I asked him what the fees were like, and he was stalling ("Hmmm ... let me see ...*flicks through book*).
:D
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^ yeah stonecold, monash undergrad is out once you start any degree. this is true for quite a few unis.
haha i know bond looks really nice with pretty accommodation and all the top-notch equipment - but it's extremely expensive. ~60 are accepted into it each year and they get to use all this equipment themselves, lucky them!
well your choice, just apply for all the 5-years and you'll get into at least one, plus if you take a gap year and apply for the same uni's they will love you for it so you'll have a higher chance of getting in the second time.
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bond uni is bloody awesome. theres a degree there about media or sometihng, and pretty much you just work at movieworld lol. but yeah all their stuff is top notch in all faculties
about unis. im just gonna apply to every uni i can lol. as everyone i've talked to and i've said myself. the best uni is the one that accepts you haha.
I'm sort of hoping to move interstate though as im not too much of a big fan of monash, i'd much rather live on campus somewhere in qld or nsw
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bond uni is bloody awesome. theres a degree there about media or sometihng, and pretty much you just work at movieworld lol. but yeah all their stuff is top notch in all faculties
about unis. im just gonna apply to every uni i can lol. as everyone i've talked to and i've said myself. the best uni is the one that accepts you haha.
I'm sort of hoping to move interstate though as im not too much of a big fan of monash, i'd much rather live on campus somewhere in qld or nsw
haha are you serious with that media one?!
yeah bond is definitely very good as you can expect for paying so much!
greggler that's exactly true:) we'll find our 'best' uni !
same here! i actually have been considering moving interstate anyway just for the college experience too in qld/nsw :p
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the both of you have got me pumped on moving interstate now. i want the college experience too. :P
do you know which uni's have it vexx? UNE looks good, but i thinks its out in the sticks yeah?
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sorry to revive an old thread but does anyone have a 'doc' verison instead of 'docx' version sorry D: