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National Education => Admissions tests => UMAT => Topic started by: physics on July 19, 2009, 10:20:29 am

Title: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: physics on July 19, 2009, 10:20:29 am
i'm not sure what % of people actually get into UNI because of UMAT because i'm actually debating wheather or not i should spend $$$ on applying for the UMAT if not much people actually get a spot in uni because of their UMAT score.

Is ur ENTER more reliable in getting into UNI than ur UMAT??
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: lacoste on July 19, 2009, 10:49:21 am
Firstly it depends on the actual University Course you want to get into. I'm assuming medicine as it is most popular?

Secondly, it is the decision of the University itself.

Your question is rather broad, narrow it down.

UMAT plays a big role in determining the Health Science courses, other than that you dont need a UMAT score to get into Uni
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: lacoste on July 19, 2009, 10:51:49 am
Different uni's weigh the UMAT differently, if I remember correcly NSW's ENTER/UAI plays a big role. eg if you get 99.95, your UMAT can be of lower than the average requirement. But since you got 99.95, the UMAT score is assumed to be of a very high score.

Monash weighs it 33% on all three sections

Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: shinny on July 19, 2009, 10:54:34 am
Obviously depends what course you want to get into. For health sciences (mostly med and dent from my experience), a high UMAT in many ways is more reliable as there's often a benchmark UMAT you require, but not ENTER. For example, my friend got 100 for UMAT, but 94.65 for ENTER and got into Monash Med first round. I've heard of cases of <90 ENTER getting into Med too. But the point is, why is spending money on the UMAT even a question for you? If you wanted to do these health sciences courses, you'd have to have a UMAT regardless. In most cases, it's not a case of people getting into uni because of their UMAT score, but just that there is a UMAT pre-requisite required which people then must meet along with their ENTER.
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: lacoste on July 19, 2009, 11:01:57 am
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: shinny on July 19, 2009, 11:10:50 am
Mainstream, non-rural student.
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: physics on July 20, 2009, 07:20:24 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: Toothpaste on July 20, 2009, 08:46:00 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: physics on July 22, 2009, 08:38:19 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.

oh sorry =( but that is bieng unfair to let them have a greater advantage??!
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: shinny on July 22, 2009, 08:46:40 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.

oh sorry =( but that is bieng unfair to let them have a greater advantage??!

And is it fair to steal their land and deprive them of resources, inc. education?

And as for rural students, well Australia's in a shortage of rural doctors. Students from rural areas are more likely to go back and work there, hence the government makes it a bit easier for them to get in. Simple supply and demand I guess.
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: physics on July 27, 2009, 07:36:24 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.

oh sorry =( but that is bieng unfair to let them have a greater advantage??!

And is it fair to steal their land and deprive them of resources, inc. education?

And as for rural students, well Australia's in a shortage of rural doctors. Students from rural areas are more likely to go back and work there, hence the government makes it a bit easier for them to get in. Simple supply and demand I guess.


That is unfair but i guess i'll still do the UMAT in hope that i will get in :(
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: Toothpaste on July 27, 2009, 09:39:50 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.

oh sorry =( but that is bieng unfair to let them have a greater advantage??!

And is it fair to steal their land and deprive them of resources, inc. education?

And as for rural students, well Australia's in a shortage of rural doctors. Students from rural areas are more likely to go back and work there, hence the government makes it a bit easier for them to get in. Simple supply and demand I guess.


That is unfair but i guess i'll still do the UMAT in hope that i will get in :(
Unfair to you or to them? Which course are you hoping for?
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: iamdan08 on July 28, 2009, 04:48:43 pm
Is your friend under a the Bonded or is a rural student or just the mainstream one?


do they get ...more um *whats the word* chance and opportunity of getting in because they are either rural or torres strait ilanderr...
You forgot aboriginal, but yes.

oh sorry =( but that is bieng unfair to let them have a greater advantage??!

lol. I wouldn't say that in the interveiw just quietly!
Title: Re: how many people actually get into UNI because of UMAT?
Post by: physics on July 30, 2009, 08:42:04 pm
i wanna get into medicine