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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Other General Discussion => Topic started by: kendraaaaa on October 22, 2009, 07:52:09 pm

Title: myki
Post by: kendraaaaa on October 22, 2009, 07:52:09 pm
Discuss.

hint word: fail
Title: Re: myki
Post by: ninwa on October 22, 2009, 07:56:38 pm
fail
Title: Re: myki
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on October 22, 2009, 07:58:08 pm
I want one.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: kendraaaaa on October 22, 2009, 08:00:24 pm
How are they going to catch fare evaders?
:/

Title: Re: myki
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 22, 2009, 08:09:42 pm
One word (lol, the bolded one :P)

Import the designers/creators of Japans, Hong Kongs, and maybe even America's public transport system

Problem solved.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: clinton_09 on October 22, 2009, 08:11:27 pm
How are they going to catch fare evaders?
:/

good point, anyone know this?
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Edmund on October 22, 2009, 08:14:38 pm
Myki fail. Metcards rule.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: ed_saifa on October 22, 2009, 08:16:19 pm
Metcards take too long to put into the machine. Myki would speed up the process of getting on.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: TrueLight on October 22, 2009, 08:16:49 pm
apparently if you don't swipe off, they charge you like 4 bucks or something...
Title: Re: myki
Post by: shinny on October 22, 2009, 08:20:53 pm
apparently if you don't swipe off, they charge you like 4 bucks or something...

It's probably more than that; they basically charge you the maximum possible fare (full fare, assumes maximum distance travelled etc.). But what if you just don't swipe on in the first place? Or do you have to swipe to get in (I have no idea how the gating works so excuse my ignorance).
Title: Re: myki
Post by: kendraaaaa on October 22, 2009, 08:21:16 pm
The whole "swipe-off" is alright for trains, but what about trams? Those riding into the city for Uni would surely know how hard it is to get on/off, now if everyone has to cue up and hold a card to a machine to get on and off I can't see that working very well.

How will inspectors check if myki is valid?

Ticket inspectors will carry hand-held devices (similar to personal organisers) which they will use to check myki.


Oh God, I can picture their little hand helds getting Blue Screened. Checking a metcard was a lot easier.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: ed_saifa on October 22, 2009, 08:23:30 pm
The whole "swipe-off" is alright for trains, but what about trams? Those riding into the city for Uni would surely know how hard it is to get on/off, now if everyone has to cue up and hold a card to a machine to get on and off I can't see that working very well.

How will inspectors check if myki is valid?

Ticket inspectors will carry hand-held devices (similar to personal organisers) which they will use to check myki.


Oh God, I can picture their little hand helds getting Blue Screened. Checking a metcard was a lot easier.
Swiping on is a really fast process. The only congestion comes from people who attempt to find their ticket in a bag when on the bus.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: kat148 on October 22, 2009, 08:23:43 pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/melbourne-commuters-to-start-using-troubled-myki-ticketing-system-within-weeks/story-e6frf7jo-1225788721397
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Commuters who register online will receive a free myki card, valued at $10

gogogo!


Title: Re: myki
Post by: Edmund on October 22, 2009, 08:26:00 pm
When are we getting this myki anyway? I've sent it about 2-3 application forms (1 a year) along with a passport photo for each. Never got one.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 22, 2009, 08:28:30 pm
2 interesting comments by H.S readers

1) So people will have to fight their way to a terminal on the tram TWICE each trip or be charged the maximum daily fare?

2) Swiping off will cause large delays at stations which have small exits. Particularly in the case where the exit is small and located near the driver. In this instance the driver will not be able to leave the station until they have a clear line of sight down the train. No doubt this will prove mighty frustrating experience!
Title: Re: myki
Post by: transgression on October 22, 2009, 08:32:29 pm
I have a myki card.
Been using the system for the year. Will have trouble with the long wait for people to scan on/off especially around crowded places like the cbd
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Collin Li on October 22, 2009, 08:39:25 pm
1) So people will have to fight their way to a terminal on the tram TWICE each trip or be charged the maximum daily fare?

Terminals are at the doorways.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: transgression on October 22, 2009, 08:40:36 pm
apparently if you don't swipe off, they charge you like 4 bucks or something...

It's probably more than that; they basically charge you the maximum possible fare (full fare, assumes maximum distance travelled etc.). But what if you just don't swipe on in the first place? Or do you have to swipe to get in (I have no idea how the gating works so excuse my ignorance).


They keep charging you until your next swipe (which is usually the maximum fare).
You have to swipe in when you get onto the transport. I've seen people who 'pretend' to swipe but really aren't but I guess with the new gadget and inspectors then this will stop
Title: Re: myki
Post by: ninwa on October 22, 2009, 09:01:09 pm
What about this?

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Will the myki swipers, which were installed many months ago onto trams, which now have been vandalised be fixed or replaced by the launch date? Will I have any recourse for the $9.92 charged to my myki account if I can't properly swipe off due to a misfunctioning valdalised swiper?
Title: Re: myki
Post by: minilunchbox on October 22, 2009, 09:21:59 pm
One word (lol, the bolded one :P)

Import the designers/creators of Japans, Hong Kongs, and maybe even America's public transport system

Problem solved.

I thought Hong Kong's one was designed by an Australian company, but I might be getting this mixed up with something else.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 22, 2009, 09:25:05 pm
One word (lol, the bolded one :P)

Import the designers/creators of Japans, Hong Kongs, and maybe even America's public transport system

Problem solved.

I thought Hong Kong's one was designed by an Australian company, but I might be getting this mixed up with something else.
Nope, you are sort of correct, the FOUNDER of the MTR was an Australian.

I just meant we should use THEIR ideas/model our system on another countries one, not saying Australians are unable to fix it! Sorry if it came across like that.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: minilunchbox on October 22, 2009, 10:24:26 pm
One word (lol, the bolded one :P)

Import the designers/creators of Japans, Hong Kongs, and maybe even America's public transport system

Problem solved.

I thought Hong Kong's one was designed by an Australian company, but I might be getting this mixed up with something else.
Nope, you are sort of correct, the FOUNDER of the MTR was an Australian.

I just meant we should use THEIR ideas/model our system on another countries one, not saying Australians are unable to fix it! Sorry if it came across like that.

Oh, no. I just meant it was weird how we had to make a completely new (and craptastic) version of something that already exists and works fabulously (vacation in China/HK woo).
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 23, 2009, 11:23:42 am
When are we getting this myki anyway? I've sent it about 2-3 application forms (1 a year) along with a passport photo for each. Never got one.

The Age a couple of days ago said rumours are the week beginning November 15 2009.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: excal on October 23, 2009, 02:31:46 pm
It's kinda hilarious, we've been using myki as a case study of failures in risk and change management at Uni...
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 24, 2009, 01:02:36 am
Has anyone else thought that myki was deliberately delayed so that the company responsible for making myki could earn more money?
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Glockmeister on October 24, 2009, 01:54:45 am
Has anyone else thought that myki was deliberately delayed so that the company responsible for making myki could earn more money?

Ooh, conspiracy. I like that...

Personal opinion is I'm not sure.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 24, 2009, 02:07:59 am
Has anyone else thought that myki was deliberately delayed so that the company responsible for making myki could earn more money?

Ooh, conspiracy. I like that...

Personal opinion is I'm not sure.

Hmmmm...  That's sure to attract the government to silence me...

P.S.  If I suddenly become inactive, you'll all know why.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: excal on October 24, 2009, 03:15:07 am
Has anyone else thought that myki was deliberately delayed so that the company responsible for making myki could earn more money?

It was outsourced to consultants, so I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Title: Re: myki
Post by: samuch on October 25, 2009, 07:14:04 pm
it should burn. im quite happy with my metcards
Title: Re: myki
Post by: Fyrefly on October 25, 2009, 07:32:24 pm
It's kinda hilarious, we've been using myki as a case study of failures in risk and change management at Uni...

Heh... it's like the epic failz of management.

Students of the accountingness... think Arthur Andersen / Enron phailz deathness.

I reckon I'll use myki... maybe... I still have the concession form for public transport somewhere in my uni bag... I've only caught public transport once this year, and couldn't be fked getting a concession card made up and such. Thus, it does not particularly influence my life.