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VCE Stuff => VCE Humanities => VCE Arts/Humanities/Health => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE History Units 1+2 => Topic started by: Hielly on February 07, 2009, 11:43:33 pm
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heys,
is anyone doing this subject in yr 11 or is it just me? hrmmm
if your doing history shout out! ;D
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Right here! ...You are not alone? 10 days late but...I am here...for you?
I always loved history, got my year 7 teacher and so far...she is reteaching basic dates and stuff that... surprisingly only people in my year 7 class knew (but she is a great teacher so I don't mind).
But...Unit 1 and 2 have nothing to do with 3 and 4 am I right (Greek/Roman history then Revolutions next year...hmmm.)
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I did yr 11 HIS last year, we did it on 20th century mostly, on Nazi's and an introduction to the Russian Rev.
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My history (mentioned before) is the Greek/Roman one...the only problem is in our school they offer Revolutions in year 12 so...eh...(complained about that on other board like 5 minutes ago after realizing Classic Cultures + Societies is an actual 3+4 subject...lol).
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hey zachcharge! nice to see someone doing history 1/2m what textbook are you currently using?
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Text...book?
None lol, so far we've just been getting a buttload of sheets going over easy stuff from year 7...sigh, some people in class had trouble with BC and AD apparently...
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ohh okay, we're doing unit 1 now, we went through revision in these past 2 weeks.
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Were doing Greek History and Mythology atm...easy stuff lol...Age of Mythology really helps
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ohh okay. unit 1 is about conquest and resistance, we're doing that now. Is your teacher following the vcaa study design?
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Were doing Classical Societies and Cultures Unit 1 and 2...(and then doing Revolutions instead of CS+S 3 and 4...wtf) so technically two different units of history. What is the VCAA study design anyway lol?
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http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/history/revolutions/revolutionindex.html
check that out. VCAA makes all our exams for year 12
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Checked it, were on track for Classical Studies (its name getting changed next year :p)
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I enjoy history, is this subject worth doing next year (I'm currently in year 10). Or is it a subject that you can pick up for 3/4?
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I enjoy history, is this subject worth doing next year (I'm currently in year 10). Or is it a subject that you can pick up for 3/4?
1/2 is interesting, but not necessary for 3/4. 1/2 is generally about the 20th century and you cover a lot of different topics (we did the fall of the traditional order as a result of WW1, Nazi Germany, the Cold War, and a few others). In 3/4, you tend to go into one area in depth - for example, with Revolutions 3/4, Unit 3 is about the Russian/French/Chinese/American Revolution and Unit 4 is about another of those revolutions. If your school offers it, you can also do Renaissance Italy 3/4 or Australian History 3/4 instead of Revolutions. You don't really cover the content of those in 1/2.
I guess 1/2 helps in terms of skills (like historiography), but the actual content in 3/4 is mostly different.
History also has a lot of reading involved, so you might want to consider doing the 3/4 in year 11.
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I enjoy history, is this subject worth doing next year (I'm currently in year 10). Or is it a subject that you can pick up for 3/4?
1/2 is interesting, but not necessary for 3/4. 1/2 is generally about the 20th century and you cover a lot of different topics (we did the fall of the traditional order as a result of WW1, Nazi Germany, the Cold War, and a few others). In 3/4, you tend to go into one area in depth - for example, with Revolutions 3/4, Unit 3 is about the Russian/French/Chinese/American Revolution and Unit 4 is about another of those revolutions. If your school offers it, you can also do Renaissance Italy 3/4 or Australian History 3/4 instead of Revolutions. You don't really cover the content of those in 1/2.
Ok, that's good to know. Because I am currently doing 1/2 food and technology, so I wouldn't consider doing history as a 3/4 in year 11. As far as I am aware, my school currently offers Australian History but the year 11 history teacher wants to change it to Revolutions, so it could change.
So yeah, subjects wise for next year I am thinking 3/4 food and tech, general maths, English, a compulsory semeseter of texts with the other semester of history and VET Children's services. Just not sure what I would pick up in year 12.
I guess 1/2 helps in terms of skills (like historiography), but the actual content in 3/4 is mostly different.
History also has a lot of reading involved, so you might want to consider doing the 3/4 in year 11.
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Give it a go and see if you like it :) That's the good thing about 1/2s, haha.
If you're looking for subjects to do without 3/4, I'd definitely recommend Legal! I'm doing it this year and I'm finding it really interesting. I think you'd be better suited to it if you're more of an English/Humanities person though.
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Funny you should mention legal because one of my friends is doing 1/2 as his accelerated at the moment, and he said he could see me doing legal. I was maybe thinking picking up business management, do you need 1/2?
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Sooo lucky! In year 10, we only got to choose between History and Geography.
From what I've heard, Business without 1/2 should be pretty doable too. :)
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Sooo lucky! In year 10, we only got to choose between History and Geography.
From what I've heard, Business without 1/2 should be pretty doable too. :)
Hahaha, yeah we are pretty lucky, we get to pick from pretty much everything that the school offers :)
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Is it worth doing?
I might be planning on doing it for yr 11.
Is it hard?
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As with any VCE subject, it is worth doing if you enjoy the subject.
Same goes for a subject being hard. How hard a subject is, is relative to how much effort you are prepared to put in, if you enjoy the subject and if you are willing to try and extend yourself.
One of my friends is doing history 1/2 as her accelerated, and from what I have heard, if you do the things I have mentioned above, you will do very, very well in the subject. :)
Good luck :)
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Any books you guys would recommend for 1/2?
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Im a year 10 student doing History 1 2 this year and finding it a bit intimidating but useful as it puts me ahead in my year 10 humanities class, so as suggested I will be completing 3 4 next year, in year 11. Are the revolution topics harder to grasp? Do you cover lots of different eras, so far in 1 2 we have only covered 20th century history. Do you go back earlier in 3 4?
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I am taking Year 11 History this year and I find it incredibly easy. I was TERRIBLE at History in Year 10 but I put in a lot of work and now I get A's in every SAC I have so far done and tests I have taken. It takes time but it's definitely a subject you need to explore.
Let's say you are studying the Russia revolution and you are told to research what happened. You'll need to first search who the leader was the the time, what he did, what kind of government Russia was under, what were the Tsars influences...
It can take awhile to understand. If you having trouble to remember details I suggest you make revision cards or download an app on your phone were you can create quizzes for yourself.
I hope this has helped you and enjoy the subject.