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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => News and Politics => Topic started by: Chavi on November 16, 2010, 02:01:18 pm
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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/state-election-2010/brumby-plan-for-teenage-boot-camp-20101116-17v45.html#poll
Every Victorian state school student will be forced to spend at least two weeks away from home to ready them for adult life under a $208 million education program unveiled by Premier John Brumby today.
Great initiative or another example of the nanny-state?
Ps. John Brumby was born for this job.
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Great initiative
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Great initiative
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It's a great idea, but it will fail horribly in implementation.
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It's a great idea, but it will fail horribly in implementation.
This isn't Myki you know. . .
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I think it's a great idea. Many of the private schools do a similar sort of thing for a term or so. At my school we didn't do that, but we did spend the year at a different campus.
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No, teaching life skills is one thing, but packing kids off for two weeks is a bit much.
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If anyone is playing the nanny here, it's not the government
That being said. No one should be forced to do this but the program should be widely encouraged and should be done on a more regular basis. A guy on BoS once proposed a similar type of plan which is, from what I remembered, quite good
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I don't think you should force students into it, but allowing them to do it is a good idea. It's ironic because private schools do usually force students into doing stuff like this.
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Sounds like a pretty radical idea.
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There was an idea mooted by David Cameron to make a 'Citizen Service' compulsory to *all* 16 yr olds in Britain. I'm tentatively in favour of the idea; although I'm usually against unnecessary state interference, I think it could give young people valuable 'references' for having helped (somebody or something) and for meeting other young people whom, due to class/culture divides, they might otherwise never get to meet.
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Sounds like a pretty radical idea.
most kids back in the 70s participated in Scouts or camping or youth groups. Kids these days waste away in front of a screen. This isn't radical - it's a weapon to combat obesity and get kids interested in rural Victoria.
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Sounds like a pretty radical idea.
most kids back in the 70s participated in Scouts or camping or youth groups. Kids these days waste away in front of a screen. This isn't radical - it's a weapon to combat obesity and get kids interested in rural Victoria.
that reminds me of this meme:
"CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO WERE BORN IN THE 30s 40s 50s 60s and early 70s.
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer.
Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
Take away food was limited to fish and chips, no pizza shops, McDonalds , KFC, Subway or NandosEven though all the shops closed at 6.00pm and didn't open on the weekends, somehow we didn't starve to death.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.
We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy Toffees, Gobstoppers, Bubble Gum and some bangers to blow up frogs with.
We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soft drinks with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING.
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came onNo one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.
We built tree houses and dens and played in river beds with matchbox cars.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo Wii , X-boxes, no video games at all, no 999 channels on SKY no video/dvd films, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them.
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no Lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
You could only buy Easter Eggs and Hot Cross Buns at Easter time.
We were given air guns and catapults for our 10th birthdays.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them.
Mum didn't have to go to work to help dad make ends meet.
RUGBY and CRICKET had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on merit.
Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and bully's ruled the playground at school.
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of...........they actually sided with the law.
Our parents didn't invent stupid names for their kids like 'Kiora' and 'Blade' and 'Ridge' and 'Vanilla'.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL !
And YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS."
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Yo combob, you're from England right?
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Yo combob, you're from England right?
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I don't think you should force students into it, but allowing them to do it is a good idea. It's ironic because private schools do usually force students into doing stuff like this.
I am so glad my school did, which is why I lean towards supporting the 'compulsory' aspect...
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I approve - two weeks of this is the best thing that could happen to a lot of people.