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Title: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 23, 2011, 08:39:42 pm
Heya,

Decided to make my own thread for my year 11 chemistry questions so any help would be much appreciated!

Anyways first question:

1. 10.0g of NaOH was completely dissolved in water so that the final volume of solution was 200 ml. What is the concentration of         this solution?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 23, 2011, 08:47:43 pm
Is it 1.25M?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: ariawuu on July 23, 2011, 08:51:15 pm
Concentration= n/V, whereby V is in litres
We know the volume (0.2L)
We need to find the moles of NaOH (n)
the equation for the n(NaOH)=m/M, whereby mass is in grams.
Sub in what we know; m= 10g, M= mass number of Na plus mass number of O plus mass number of H,refer to periodic table.

Work what n is then divide by 0.2 will give you your concentration.
Hope that was helpful. :)
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: ariawuu on July 23, 2011, 08:53:38 pm
Is it 1.25M?
yerp.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 23, 2011, 08:56:26 pm
Haha thank you but why do we use C = n x V  , rather than using concentration = mass of solute / volume ?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: ariawuu on July 23, 2011, 09:00:21 pm
im assuming its n/v not mass of solute/volume (but you can do that) just depending what the question is asking you to put the concentration in
eg find the concentration(m/v%) of this then you would use mass of solute/volume ^^

whats the answer at the back of your book?

EDIT: that was a good question, but if it's not asking you specifically for m/v% then you would assume its n/v
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: tony3272 on July 23, 2011, 09:00:48 pm
Haha thank you but why do we use C = n x V  , rather than using concentration = mass of solute / volume ?
The formula for concentration is c=n/V rather than c=n x V. Using n rather than m is just so that it's units are in
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 23, 2011, 09:01:36 pm
Haha thank you but why do we use C = n x V  , rather than using concentration = mass of solute / volume ?
it's c = n DIVIDED BY V.

You can find it your way but you'll get it in g/L...the king of concentration is M, molarity, n/L! :)

EDIT: Beaten.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: Lasercookie on July 23, 2011, 09:01:58 pm
I think the reason is because n = c x V gives you the answer in Molars (1M = 1 mol/L) which is a nicer unit.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: ariawuu on July 23, 2011, 09:05:22 pm
I think the reason is because n = c x V gives you the answer in Molars (1M = 1 mol/L) which is a nicer unit.
Haha thank you but why do we use C = n x V  , rather than using concentration = mass of solute / volume ?
it's c = n DIVIDED BY V.

You can find it your way but you'll get it in g/L...the king of concentration is M, molarity, n/L! :)

EDIT: Beaten.
Haha thank you but why do we use C = n x V  , rather than using concentration = mass of solute / volume ?
The formula for concentration is c=n/V rather than c=n x V. Using n rather than m is just so that it's units are in

probably was a typo....
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 23, 2011, 09:07:52 pm
Oh haha whoops my mistake it was a typo its supposed to be n= c x V and yeah it was a multiple choice question which had the answers in (M) so haha silly me I didn't see it  :P

Haha but thanks anyways guys !
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: ariawuu on July 23, 2011, 09:09:36 pm
yerp M is molarity (mols per litre)= concentration XD

and well done for creating your own chem thread :)
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:25:00 pm
Ok I'm back again

2. calculate the molar concentration present in 1.55L of solution, which contains 1.223g of CaCl2

Ok so I got 7.11 x 10-3 but apparently thats wrong?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:29:09 pm
I got the same answer...who said it was wrong?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:31:28 pm
Heinemann 1 textbook  :P
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:33:00 pm
pg number, q number? I have the same book - I'm assuming it's from c11....
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: Lasercookie on July 24, 2011, 12:34:23 pm
I got 7.11 * 10^-3 as well.

Chapter 11, 12a? I'll check what the Heinemann worked solutions did.

Edit:

This is what Heinemann did:
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n(CaCl2) =   m/M = 1.223/75.5 = 0.0162 mole
c(CaCl2) = n/V = 0.0162/1.55  = 0.0105 M

I'm positive they calculated that Molar Mass of CaCl2 wrong.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:34:42 pm
yup it is from chapter 11 pg 215 question 12. a
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: pi on July 24, 2011, 12:34:57 pm
I got the same answer...who said it was wrong?

Units? :P

Nah, your figure is correct, answers must be wrong :)

Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: tony3272 on July 24, 2011, 12:35:15 pm
Found the question. Heinemann 1 Ch 11 Q12. In the worked solutions they use the wrong molar mass for CaCl2. Your answer is correct.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:37:41 pm
Oh man don't ever use the worked sols. They are absolutely shocking...wait till you get to pH questions (c14).

Check the back of the book...they give it right as 0.00711M.

(my v. is ENHANCED, maybe the old edition has it wrong on the back of the book too...)
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:39:13 pm
ok cool man there are so many incorrect solutions in that book, anyways what about question 13  same page could you guys confirm if my answers are correct?

a. 4M
b. 0.075 M
c. .475 M
d. 2.76 g/L
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: Lasercookie on July 24, 2011, 12:39:22 pm
Oh man don't ever use the worked sols. They are absolutely shocking...wait till you get to pH questions (c14).

Check the back of the book...they give it right as 0.00711M.

(my v. is ENHANCED, maybe the old edition has it wrong on the back of the book too...)
Yeah old edition has the wrong answer at the back of the book.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: tony3272 on July 24, 2011, 12:43:20 pm
ok cool man there are so many incorrect solutions in that book, anyways what about question 13  same page could you guys confirm if my answers are correct?

a. 4M
b. 0.075 M
c. .475 M
d. 2.76 g/L

c. should be 0.025.







the solution is diluted to 100mL, so new concentration is

Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:43:32 pm
ok cool man there are so many incorrect solutions in that book, anyways what about question 13  same page could you guys confirm if my answers are correct?

a. 4M
b. 0.075 M
c. .475 M
d. 2.76 g/L
C is wrong. And (d) is automatically wrong 'cause it's not in M (n/L)

EDIT: BEATEN!! DAMN
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:48:14 pm
Oh haha right I used the wrong c1 for part c. But for part d I don't know why it is wrong when I divided by M(molar mass) I still got the same answer of .033 M as in the book but is the concentration that I had in terms of g/L is wrong since the book had their answer as 3.3 g/L or 0.030 M?
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:49:40 pm
q13 - calculate the 'molar concentration'

your answer to (d) is not even answering the question...do you get what I mean? Molar conc = M = n/L

I uh don't know how to do latex so I'll leave someone else to do the working *cough, lazy*
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: epinephrine on July 24, 2011, 12:51:20 pm
Oh it doesn't say calculate the Molar concentration in my book it just says calculate the concentration. Yeah I think that might be in the enhanced edition but in the old edition it just says calculate concentration.
Title: Re: Epinephrine's noob chemistry question
Post by: REBORN on July 24, 2011, 12:52:23 pm
Faceplam.

haha, ignore me -.-