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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: liuetenant on August 31, 2011, 08:28:38 pm
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So..fellow VNners....where are we planning to take our lives? and what university/ course do u endeavour to take to achieve it? :D
im clueless...i would if everyone else is?
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wonder*
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Well I really would like to do Meteorology, which I only decided a couple of months ago. I really screwed up with my Year 12 subjects so now I spend my days and nights working out ways of weaseling into a Bachelor of Science at Melbourne Uni :P
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Aerospace Engineering/Science in 2013 probs, hopefully the aeronautics/astronautics industries can be stronger after i graduate (2017-2018) if no or so, then i guess i would either have to work as a mechanical engineer in AUS or move to the USA and work as a Aeronautical engineer if i have a desire to work on airbus and Boeing. Mabes, if i have chance to work as an Astronautical engineer ftw (spacecraft awesomeness) if i have a desire learning about spacecraft. It just amazes me of how much science is behind it, trust me the science behind aerospace comes in a mixture from physics and chemistry, WELL A LOT OF BOTH OF THEM, but predominately physics :p. btw Aerospace engineers can be called 'rocket scientist'.
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I'm pretty clueless. I don't even know what my major will be. Considering that the classes I'm shopping this semester range from multivariate calculus to Japanese sociology...
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What do I want to be? Happy!
Oh, and Journalism!
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So..fellow VNners....where are we planning to take our lives? and what university/ course do u endeavour to take to achieve it? :D
im clueless...i would if everyone else is?
I want to do a Bachelor of Science, studying Mathematics or Physics (ideally, both).
After that, I don't know, maybe work my way up to a PhD and then go into a research/academic type career.
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I want to be an adult, and stuff. Heh. I don't know, really. I often resent having to make all these major, life-altering decisions when I'm only 16. I mean, who even let me do this stuff? No maths? I've probably screwed myself over for life, now. Why didn't anyone stop me? >.>
Honestly though, I'm aiming to get into Arts/Law at Monash, or just Arts at Melbourne and then go onto a JD if possible. I don't know what I want to do with myself. Whenever I'm confronted with my own future, I have a tendency to want to curl up in a little ball and cry a bit, because it's all a bit overwhelming and terrifying. :D My own interests, and the things I want to explore in life, are at odds with this whole 'being employed and having money to buy food' aspect of adulthood.
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tbh, I'm not 100% sure. :(
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:D it sounds depressing, but good to know there are peeps out there who are as clueless as i am. i have a feeling ill be studying...and studying..and studying for the rest of my life...and never being able to ffind a job XP
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I don't know what I want to do when I grow up. I know that I want to study law and international studies because I find them extremely interesting fields, but after uni I don't know. What I want in my job is:
1. Ability to travel/ a job with opportunities to work for a couple of years in one place then move.
2. It has to help people somehow, particularly people in the world in most need of help.
3. I have to find it interesting and engaging.
I have thought about what sorts of jobs this would entail, and I have come up working for an NGO, diplomat, consulate and anything that fits the bill really... But I'll figure this all out more in detail in another 5 or 6 years when I've finished uni.
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I think the problem is, everyone nowadays is looking for a quick fix to a job. Something that will provide us with every security and remuneration we can think of. I'll admit, it's definitely important to me, and I don't think it's necessarily unreasonable these days to think that way. But I think we all need to somewhat sacrifice some things to find something we enjoy...
But it's really not easy, I hope everyone here get's what they want and deserve, cos I'm definitely feeling the pressure of either choosing an alternate to pathway to Med or choosing a completely different career altogether, and it's not easy :(
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I personally think half the fun is not knowing.
Come on, how boring would it be if we have every detail of our lives mapped out? We're still young, we can still change our minds and even if you do a course/part of a course that you don't get a job out of you still would have learnt so much from it. I'm excited about the future, not because I know what I'm going to do, but because for the first time in 12 years I'll have the freedom to chose.
I would quote the third Twilight movie here, but I think I'll spare you... :P
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I personally think half the fun is not knowing.
Come on, how boring would it be if we have every detail of our lives mapped out? We're still young, we can still change our minds and even if you do a course/part of a course that you don't get a job out of you still would have learnt so much from it. I'm excited about the future, not because I know what I'm going to do, but because for the first time in 12 years I'll have the freedom to chose.
I would quote the third Twilight movie here, but I think I'll spare you... :P
Personally, I think you should go into singing. "The Land is Mine" comes to mind for a possible chart topper :P
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Want to get into Dentistry. But if that fails may just go and do pharmacy :P
what do you reckon atar wise and umat wise would i need to get in.. I can go interstate if its neccessary
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Want to get into Dentistry. But if that fails may just go and do pharmacy :P
what do you reckon atar wise and umat wise would i need to get in.. I can go interstate if its neccessary
if you don't mind me asking, why dent over the other health/UMAT required courses?
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Want to get into Dentistry. But if that fails may just go and do pharmacy :P
what do you reckon atar wise and umat wise would i need to get in.. I can go interstate if its neccessary
if you don't mind me asking, why dent over the other health/UMAT required courses?
I'd say almost everyone wanting to do dent is attracted by the massive salary - cmon dont deny it! But that's not the only thing, the lifestyle of a dentist seems pretty awesome as well. You work normal hours and have a lot of spare time for hobbies, family etc. You also have the patient interaction like all other health occupations. Those are my main reasons to doing it.
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I personally think half the fun is not knowing.
Come on, how boring would it be if we have every detail of our lives mapped out? We're still young, we can still change our minds and even if you do a course/part of a course that you don't get a job out of you still would have learnt so much from it. I'm excited about the future, not because I know what I'm going to do, but because for the first time in 12 years I'll have the freedom to chose.
I would quote the third Twilight movie here, but I think I'll spare you... :P
Personally, I think you should go into singing. "The Land is Mine" comes to mind for a possible chart topper :P
Hahahaha nah I think the funeral song would be better... ;) Could show off my deep, sexy voice...
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well i want to do an undergraduate course.. and i dont wanna do med cause im bad with blood and cutting up people and even just looking a other peoples bodies :P
and yes i like the dent pay :P
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Want to get into Dentistry. But if that fails may just go and do pharmacy :P
what do you reckon atar wise and umat wise would i need to get in.. I can go interstate if its neccessary
if you don't mind me asking, why dent over the other health/UMAT required courses?
I'd say almost everyone wanting to do dent is attracted by the massive salary - cmon dont deny it! But that's not the only thing, the lifestyle of a dentist seems pretty awesome as well. You work normal hours and have a lot of spare time for hobbies, family etc. You also have the patient interaction like all other health occupations. Those are my main reasons to doing it.
I can imagine a lot of people that aspire to medicine being dissatisfied with it. It seems as though many people do medicine for some sort of prestige that accompanies the job. ??? ...and the salary, we Australians tax the rich very heavily.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who's indecisive :D I'm considering Commerce/Arts are Monash, but I have no idea where that'll take me.
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A variant of Commerce/Science/Engineering/Arts at Monash/Melb.
So yeh I got no idea lol.
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Optometry is the plan :) Just a matter of where and how :)
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I want to be an actuary.
My giant Asian family who have no idea what an actuary is and pretty much think any career that isn't Medicine/Law is bad are now giving me a lecture that my career path is inferior.
Their reasoning is that as an actuary I will have trouble finding employment and I will always have someone of higher position above me telling me what to do, which won't be the case if I become a doctor. I don't really care about this point but how do I convince my family that an actuary is the dream job? I won't even try to suggest to them that I'm good at it and I will enjoy it because my family doesn't care about job enjoyment since they think money will make any job happy. I tried telling them that actuaries make heaps and that I will make more than my parents combined as soon as I come out of uni. Unfortunately I regret saying this because now they think since I'm comparing actuary with my parents jobs, its going to be really bad because my parents have bad jobs. It also doesn't help that none of my family has been to uni so they don't really know anything besides what they see on TV. And since actuaries never appear on TV and all the doctors and lawyers you see on TV are rich, they obviously think that being an actuary is inferior to doctor/lawyer. So how do I sway my family into support my dream of being an actuary?
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I guess it'd be hard to change their views on job satisfaction, but you could try to show them material about actuaries.
http://www.aga.gov.au/about/default.asp - The Australian government hires actuaries, they have a nice page.
http://www.actuaries.asn.au/Sitefunctions/Aboutus/WhatdoesanActuarydo.aspx
or maybe the recent news on what Actuaries in Australia have been doing: http://www.actuaries.asn.au/PublicPolicyAndMedia/MediaReleases.aspx
Maybe show them the income comparison of a doctor or lawyer for actuary.
Here's the ABS Statistics for Actuaries (and Mathematicians and Statisticians) - not sure if there's any useful data there though: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2241+Actuaries,+Mathematicians+and+Statisticians
Or you could get all the information booklets from Monash, Melbourne etc and then get them to read the actuary stuff?
You can only do actuarial studies at a select few universities right? Maybe the "prestige" associated with those universities would convince them.
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Wow thanks for the links I'll definitely show them that.
But their main argument is that actuaries have to find employment and that they will always be under someone of higher position unlike doctors and lawyers. I reckon if I can rebut this argument I will be much closer to persuading them.
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Wow thanks for the links I'll definitely show them that.
But their main argument is that actuaries have to find employment and that they will always be under someone of higher position unlike doctors and lawyers. I reckon if I can rebut this argument I will be much closer to persuading them.
I don't really know in detail what medicine is like, but I would have thought that most doctors would always be working under someone in a higher position? Like wouldn't GPs be working for their clinic? My knowledge of hospitals really just is from Scrubs... but they all work for the head guy, who would have worked for years to get to that elevated position. I guess for any job you could work hard for years and work your way to the top. I really don't understand what point they're trying to make. It seems a bit flawed to me and should hopefully be easy to rebut.
I'm sure you could find examples of programmers, mathematicians, artists, physicists who became head of a company. I'd imagine a lot of actuaries might go on to become CEO's or something like that.
Edit: As an actuary, couldn't you one day start your own actuarial consultancy firm? Like I don't think many doctors could split off from their employer and start their own business.
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In medicine many people tend to set up their own practices especially if they are specialists. Gp's etc are defined as "self - employed " they don't really have a boss as such
lol, fair enough, I never knew that.