Post by: Nokiacharger on October 07, 2011, 10:57:33 pm
Not to sound boastful or anything, but I'm finding the exams far far too easy at the moment and I'd like something a bit more difficult (not iTute, that was crazy!!!!)
I did the VCAA 2010 exam 2 as my first prac exam just to get a gauge of where I am comparing to the state and then decided to leave the rest of the VCAA till last. I scored 91% which was an A+ for last year, I think I would do a bit better now seeing as that was my first exam and there were a few jitters and rookie mistakes.
So could you give me the top 5 challenging but reasonable exam 1 and 2's that you have come accross, thanks!!!
Please put it in this format:
Exam 1:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Exam2:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Post by: david10d on October 07, 2011, 11:22:59 pm
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. -
....
100. iTute (because they're aren't reasonable)
Post by: Vincezor on October 07, 2011, 11:33:49 pm
1. Kilbaha 2010 was pretty good
2. Would have said iTute 2011 but I guess you don't like :P
3. -
4. -
5. -
Not sure for the rest, nothing has really 'jumped' out at me to the point that I honestly did not know how to do it (except iTute, but that's a different story).
Exam 2: NOTE: not really in order after Kilbaha 2010 xD, some may perceive them as easy/hard - whatever :P
1. Kilbaha 2010
2. VCAA 2010
3. Insight 2011 (not THAT sure, though I think there were some good questions in there)
4. Heffernan 2011 (On a similar state with Insight.. will have to look over again)
5. Anything else... not sure
Post by: Truck on October 07, 2011, 11:37:08 pm
Post by: onur369 on October 07, 2011, 11:51:35 pm
Post by: paulsterio on October 07, 2011, 11:56:29 pm
Post by: acinod on October 07, 2011, 11:57:50 pm
I know you've all heard of Kilbaha 2010 and that was pretty insane. It was so long that I took an hour on multiple choice and still got 4 wrong. It was mainly relevant except probably the last question and a few others but the main reason it was hard was because of the length. I was 30 minutes over time.
Then I did iTute 2010.
Honestly you can try it, but don't be disappointed if you get 70% like I did. It is stupid. It's pretty relevant except for the question where you need to USE SPESH DOUBLE ANGLE FORMULA and the last question which I did not understand at all (I think it's actually relevant though, just that they'll never make a question this hard).
So in a nutshell: iTute 2010 is the hardest untimed. Kilbaha 2010 is the hardest timed.
Post by: Andiio on October 08, 2011, 12:00:18 am
Post by: paulsterio on October 08, 2011, 12:12:21 am
Post by: tony3272 on October 08, 2011, 12:29:18 am
Post by: jane1234 on October 08, 2011, 02:37:23 am
Except itute. If you are that desperate for self-esteem damage, try itute.
Post by: yawho on October 08, 2011, 07:40:15 am
It's pretty relevant except for the question where you need to USE SPESH DOUBLE ANGLE FORMULA
I looked up Methods (CAS) study design p184 under Key knowledge. Quote 'This knowledge includes ................; the index (exponent) laws, logarithm laws and compound angle formulas for sine, cosine and tangent;.............'
Surprise!
Post by: johnmichael on October 08, 2011, 11:29:57 am
...and found it really hard?
Some of it was okay but the last question about Bruno and jumping over some graph I didn't really understand what it was asking me to do.. at all.
Does anyone happen to have the answers?
Post by: thushan on October 08, 2011, 01:17:35 pm
2. VCAA 2007 was somewhat difficult.
3. VCAA 2010 wasn't that easy either.
Don't bother with iTute, those papers are just plain stupid. The TSFX ones are quite difficult too.
Post by: paulsterio on October 08, 2011, 01:22:19 pm
I found TSFX heaps harder than Kilbaha. I honestly don't know why everyone thinks Kilbaha papers are the most challenging - I found them to be on par with Insight and Neap and all that. I think if you know the course back to front AND can intepret different styles of questions, you'll find that no paper will be THAT difficult.
Except itute. If you are that desperate for self-esteem damage, try itute.
I don't like TSFX, so I don't do them, but I agree with you Jane, I think that Kilbaha papers are basically on par with the majority of other Methods Exams, and somehow people keep telling me MAV is easy, whereas I find MAV harder than Kilbaha
I think it comes down to what types of questions you are good at, if it has more of what you're good at and less of what you're bad at, it's easy and vice versa, so you can't define "easiness" - it's subjective
1. Kilbaha 2010 Exam 2. That was an absolute killer! I spent half-an-hour trying to get out the last question, couldn't.
2. VCAA 2007 was somewhat difficult.
3. VCAA 2010 wasn't that easy either.
I found VCAA 2007 quite average, but last year's exam (VCAA 2010 Exam 2) was overall not too bad, but the last question where you had to find "p" was a killer
On a side note, the last question from the 2010 Spesh Exam 2 was a killer as well! damnn! D:
But guys, does anyone know of a hard Exam 1 (not Exam 2) =.="
Post by: Asx4Life on October 08, 2011, 01:27:55 pm
Post by: nacho on October 08, 2011, 01:32:18 pm
Post by: Asx4Life on October 08, 2011, 01:44:47 pm
Post by: Asx4Life on October 08, 2011, 02:34:59 pm
Post by: Zebra on October 08, 2011, 05:57:48 pm
Okay, just marked VCAA 2007, and it was very bad 68/80 :(
thats very good
Post by: tony3272 on October 08, 2011, 06:07:56 pm
Itute are just like, your standard questions, which require retarded calculations.. but ive only done 1 itute, and that was an exam 1
Yeah iTute exam 1's are pretty easy. It's exam 2 when you shoot yourself.
Post by: thushan on October 08, 2011, 06:23:42 pm
Okay, just marked VCAA 2007, and it was very bad 68/80 :(
Yeah, that's actually really good - that's a mid A+. A+ was 62.5 that year I think
Post by: Asx4Life on October 08, 2011, 07:51:44 pm
Okay, just marked VCAA 2007, and it was very bad 68/80 :(
Yeah, that's actually really good - that's a mid A+. A+ was 62.5 that year I think
Really?? How do I find out the A+ cutoffs?
Post by: b^3 on October 08, 2011, 07:53:59 pm
2007: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2007/statssect3.html
2008: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2008/statssect3.html
2009: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2009/statssect3.html
2010: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2010/statssect3.html
Find the right subject then convert to percentage.
Post by: Asx4Life on October 08, 2011, 08:02:10 pm
2006: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/statssect3.html
2007: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2007/statssect3.html
2008: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2008/statssect3.html
2009: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2009/statssect3.html
2010: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2010/statssect3.html
Find the right subject then convert to percentage.
awesome thanks! :D
Post by: nacho on October 08, 2011, 09:06:42 pm
Exam 1's
-Kilbaha/itute
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..
..
Exam 2's
1. Dr. He'a 2nd question of SA
2. Dr. He's 1st question of SA
3-5 / reserved for when i remember the other questions
i actually broke a sweat during that exam.. and the guy next to me broke his pacer lead like 8 times LOL
except for MC, which i found to be easier than any mc ive done !? (probably made 20 silly mistakes on mc though)
Post by: BlueSky_3 on October 08, 2011, 09:13:34 pm
Post by: nacho on October 08, 2011, 09:20:40 pm
I know I've said this before but can someone please post up a copy of Dr.He's trial exams, I heard that they are incredibly hard and know since everyone is commenting on their difficulty it is making me soooooo.... desperate to want to see them.we get them back in two weeks.
unless someone is very kind and can be bothered scanning the whole exam, i dont think youll be able to get it :(
because it is already prime exam study time
Post by: haddzy on October 08, 2011, 09:35:08 pm
Post by: david10d on October 08, 2011, 10:26:04 pm
really an eye opener
Post by: acinod on October 08, 2011, 10:39:08 pm
I learnt about modern warfare tactics.
And how to prove Snell's Law using Fermat's Principle from Physics.
Like he's Spesh one, multiple choice is standard difficulty but Extended Response was where the fun began.
Epic as...
Post by: Andiio on October 08, 2011, 10:48:37 pm
Dr He's Exam 2.
I learnt about modern warfare tactics.
And how to prove Snell's Law using Fermat's Principle from Physics.
Like he's Spesh one, multiple choice is standard difficulty but Extended Response was where the fun began.
Epic as...
It wasn't Snell's was it? Just that angle of incidence = angle of reflection!
Post by: onur369 on October 09, 2011, 12:00:09 am
Post by: tony3272 on October 09, 2011, 12:14:09 am
NEVER EVER DO TSFX TRIALS! You should all know buy now that they make them exceptionally hard and for free because of one thing, luring you to their lectures. Oh hey having trouble with my extremely fucked trial paper? Come to TSFX and waste your $100 and time by learning nothing new and that our trial exams are just over exaggerated.
Yeah they're really annoying like this. The only positive thing about them is that the resemble SACs, so i found them good practice for that.
Post by: FromBaghdadWithLove on October 09, 2011, 01:09:58 pm
like for example i did 2009vcaa exam1 i got 29/40 and exam2 i got 60/80 .. if i perform something like that in the end of year exam, what raw score u think i can get?
Post by: Greatness on October 09, 2011, 03:59:55 pm
Post by: FromBaghdadWithLove on October 09, 2011, 05:05:58 pm
From the stats you wouldve gotten grades of B+ for exam 1, and b+ for exam 2. If you have decent sacs you would be looking at getting something in the mid 30s.
omg, makes me soo happy to hear :D
Post by: FromBaghdadWithLove on October 09, 2011, 07:44:06 pm
Post by: jane1234 on October 09, 2011, 07:50:05 pm
hey umm does it matter if the answer in the vcaa examiners report is something like 6root(3)/5 and ur answer is something like 32151/65651? like it that allowd, if they equaled the same number? and im talking about exam2
Surds are irrational numbers, meaning they can't be expressed in fraction form. So 6root(3)/5 would have an infinite number of decimal places and 32151/65651 is only an approximation, not an exact answer. So always leave things in square root form...
Post by: nbhindi on October 09, 2011, 07:54:58 pm
So 6root(3)/5 would have an infinite number of decimal places and 32151/65651 is only an approximation, not an exact answer.I don't believe it's an approximation....the values aren't close at all.
Post by: jane1234 on October 09, 2011, 07:56:34 pm
So 6root(3)/5 would have an infinite number of decimal places and 32151/65651 is only an approximation, not an exact answer.I don't believe it's an approximation....the values aren't close at all.
She said "like it that allowd, if they equaled the same number?" - it was just an example.
Post by: nbhindi on October 09, 2011, 08:16:58 pm
Touche ;DSo 6root(3)/5 would have an infinite number of decimal places and 32151/65651 is only an approximation, not an exact answer.I don't believe it's an approximation....the values aren't close at all.
She said "like it that allowd, if they equaled the same number?" - it was just an example.
Post by: paulsterio on October 09, 2011, 09:27:29 pm
hey umm does it matter if the answer in the vcaa examiners report is something like 6root(3)/5 and ur answer is something like 32151/65651? like it that allowd, if they equaled the same number? and im talking about exam2
There's no way that you can have a surd that is equal to a fraction, because surds are irrational, you can't express them in the form
But I don't think that it's something you would have to worry about because I personally don't see how you will get an approximation like that, generally you will be either having things in exact form or in decimals, unless someone can shine a light on as to how you would get a weird approximation like that, I don't really see it as an issue
Post by: BoredSatan on October 09, 2011, 10:28:35 pm
Dr He's Exam 2.i actually didnt find it THAT hard..
I learnt about modern warfare tactics.
And how to prove Snell's Law using Fermat's Principle from Physics.
Like he's Spesh one, multiple choice is standard difficulty but Extended Response was where the fun began.
Epic as...
i mean a lot of the proving was difficult but managed to derive everything and even prove the last question :D
Post by: tony3272 on October 10, 2011, 09:58:55 pm
Post by: FromBaghdadWithLove on October 11, 2011, 05:46:01 pm
So 6root(3)/5 would have an infinite number of decimal places and 32151/65651 is only an approximation, not an exact answer.I don't believe it's an approximation....the values aren't close at all.
She said "like it that allowd, if they equaled the same number?" - it was just an example.
thanks jane u got my back ;)!
yeah no my concern is like my calculator sometimes gives me answers like 34556765/585954454 some retarted fraction like that, and i check the vce answers to the question and it would have a surd answer. so yeah can i just write the fraction answer it gives me or?. also anyone have a screenshot of what my ti nspire setting should look like, because i seem to be getting funny answers at times.
Post by: funkyducky on October 13, 2011, 10:44:09 pm