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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: acinod on October 10, 2011, 08:41:10 pm

Title: Sleep
Post by: acinod on October 10, 2011, 08:41:10 pm
Just wondering what would be the optimum approach to sleep a VCE student should have with just a few weeks before our exams.

Is 8 hour the optimum or do we need more sleep say 10 hours? Or is less sleep more effective say 6 hours so we can study more? Or is this counter-productive as studying while sleep-deprived is bad?

Is it good to study up late or wake up really early and study? Like 5AM or even earlier!

So far I'm going to sleep at 11 and waking at 7 for my regular 8 hours. But now I'm thinking of possibly sleep at 10 and waking at 5AM to start doing practice exams!

In the end, I guess every person has a different optimum approach to sleep since we're all different but how can I prepare myself the best way possible when it comes to sleep?
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Greatness on October 10, 2011, 08:49:57 pm
It would depend on the individual. If i get more than 10 hours sleep i usually feel lethargic during the day, but if i get less than 7 im dead :/
I reckon it's too risky to experiment with your sleeping patterns at the time of the year. Just be smart about when you need sleep, like im going to (hopefully) go to bed an hour earlier and get that extra hours sleep rather then procrastinate on vn/fb or try diong that extra hour of study when im pretty tired - because it would just be a waste of time.

SLEEP IS UNDERRATED!.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: lexitu on October 10, 2011, 08:55:04 pm
I think you answered your own questions well :) 

And yep, there's support for too much sleep being bad just as there is for too little sleep! I think whatever's going to be manageable for you - if you think you can stick to 10am - 5am then sure, why not.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Greatness on October 10, 2011, 09:13:49 pm
I think you answered your own questions well :) 

And yep, there's support for too much sleep being bad just as there is for too little sleep! I think whatever's going to be manageable for you - if you think you can stick to 10am - 5am then sure, why not.
10am-5am?????? That's crazy man :P
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: lexitu on October 10, 2011, 09:16:52 pm
Ah, I wasn't doing the maths on that! What I mean is, if you can do that day by day without going into a state of sleep-deprived non-studiousness then go for it. If that's too little sleep and too early then I'm sure you won't study as well and won't actually be able to stick to that.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: lilaznkev1n on October 10, 2011, 09:35:56 pm
I think you answered your own questions well :) 

And yep, there's support for too much sleep being bad just as there is for too little sleep! I think whatever's going to be manageable for you - if you think you can stick to 10am - 5am then sure, why not.
I wish i can sleep for 19 hours a day but I have to go to school :)
I'll stick to my 11pm-7am routine, also 6:00-6:30pm powernap :)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: acinod on October 10, 2011, 09:52:40 pm
It would depend on the individual. If i get more than 10 hours sleep i usually feel lethargic during the day, but if i get less than 7 im dead :/
I reckon it's too risky to experiment with your sleeping patterns at the time of the year. Just be smart about when you need sleep, like im going to (hopefully) go to bed an hour earlier and get that extra hours sleep rather then procrastinate on vn/fb or try diong that extra hour of study when im pretty tired - because it would just be a waste of time.

SLEEP IS UNDERRATED!.

Hmm true but I'll experiment the 10PM!! to 5AM time tomorrow night. Just not tonight because like every other night, I have dinner at 9!
I think forcing yourself to sleep early and wake up early to study would be better since you won't procrastinate as much like you usually do just before bed. And also no one's gonna disturb you super early in the morning right? :P
Apparently 10-7 is the best but I guess sleep is different for everyone :)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Greatness on October 10, 2011, 10:50:11 pm
Well i normally get up at around 6-6:30 so i get 1 hours or so of solid hw/study done in the morning. I work much better in the morning as well :)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Christiano on October 11, 2011, 06:03:52 pm
I usually wake up at 5am, go for a jog and get ready for school before ~6.15. Then do a practice exam/italian practice till 8. Decent way to start the day.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Andiio on October 11, 2011, 07:08:44 pm
I usually wake up at 5am, go for a jog and get ready for school before ~6.15. Then do a practice exam/italian practice till 8. Decent way to start the day.

What time do you sleep O_O
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Ghost! on October 11, 2011, 09:21:20 pm
It's more important to go to bed early than to sleep for longer... I'm pretty sure. Trying going to bed at 9-930ish and doing whatever you needed/wanted to do early in the morning before school after a little exercise to get your body ticking.

Personally I need at least ten hours sleep to feel 100% the next day.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Zafaraaaa on October 11, 2011, 09:25:13 pm
I usually wake up at 5am, go for a jog and get ready for school before ~6.15. Then do a practice exam/italian practice till 8. Decent way to start the day.

OMG I'm too drained to get out of bed in the morning, let alone go for a jog hahaha but good on you! I wish I could do that LOL ;D
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: acinod on October 14, 2011, 05:41:38 pm
Went to sleep at 10:30 last night and woke up at 5:30 to do a practice exam. Let's say it didn't feel as good at the start. But then when I started doing the exam I felt kind of fresh.

Ate dinner at 5 today so I think I'll sleep early and wake up even earlier tomorrow :P

I don't really understand why I'm doing this though...         
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: chemkid_23 on October 14, 2011, 07:09:08 pm
neither  do I .........LOL??
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: nacho on October 14, 2011, 08:16:57 pm
Went to sleep at 10:30 last night and woke up at 5:30 to do a practice exam. Let's say it didn't feel as good at the start. But then when I started doing the exam I felt kind of fresh.

Ate dinner at 5 today so I think I'll sleep early and wake up even earlier tomorrow :P

I don't really understand why I'm doing this though...         
man i tried this routine on the hols, getting up early at 6:30, never worked as i could never bring myself to wake up - despite three alarm clocks situated in my room
- on a shelf, under my bed, on my bedside drawer ...

Currently (for the past 2 months) ive been getting 5.5 - 6.5 hrs of sleep.
two days ago i got 8 hours, and felt extremely lethargic the whole day, slept 2 hours mid day, and then went on to stay up until 5 am doing methods.
Is it better to stick to the 6hours or try to routine in 8 hours, as apparently its good for cognitive ability (legal studies = easier to rote learn?)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: acinod on October 30, 2011, 06:59:53 pm
4 nights left till our first exam - English.
How are we all sleeping?
I tried to sleep at 11 last night and set the alarm at 7 for a good 8 hour sleep. But woke up at 9 and haven't done any work since...
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: DisaFear on October 30, 2011, 07:00:57 pm
I slept at 1:00am, woke at 9:30am for tuition
Gonna need to change that soon
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: nacho on October 30, 2011, 07:04:18 pm
im still getting to sleep at 2:00 - 4:00
and waking up 8:30ish
trying to get 7 hours solid each day from now on though
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Greatness on October 30, 2011, 07:06:41 pm
Gonna try going to bed at 10:30 at the latest and get up at 7-8. Just try getting some consistent sleep, before the exams :)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: aiming_95 on October 30, 2011, 07:16:15 pm
Scenario 1:

I study better at night, so when I study sometimes it will go on until 2-3.
(The bad part is waking up feeling like shit)

Scenario 2:

I develop a habit of sleeping early and wake up feeling fresh
(The bad part is compromising my comfort of studying at night)

What do you guys recommend ?
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: b^3 on October 30, 2011, 07:26:04 pm
You could stay up for days trying to figure out why electrons behave as if they have no mass when travelling through a graphine sheet.

Srsly though, you need to be in peak condition for exams. I like studying at night because it's dark, quiet and nothing is going on around me, I don't feel like I am missing anything so I'm able to study well. Maybe get yourself a dark room and some 'noise cancelling headphones' so that you can study just as effectively in the day.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Greatness on October 30, 2011, 07:28:43 pm
Feeling better on the day of the exam will give you confidence. You still have a few days to study during the day for english so give that a shot!
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: abzzzz on October 30, 2011, 07:32:09 pm
I get to sleep at 3-4 and then wake up at 2-3PM and feel like absolute shit. I can't change this, even if i try. I try waking up earlier, i just doesn't work :(
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: aiming_95 on October 30, 2011, 07:34:40 pm
Put the most annoying alarm you can find, and put it out of arms reach. It works.

I recommend making your alarm the screeching mosquito. ;)

You'll jump up, hold your pillow and try to murder that mutherfucker. Until you realise it is the alarm.

Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: DisaFear on October 30, 2011, 07:38:21 pm
Recently, the 'putting-alarm-out-of-reach' has worked for me
Pro tier, tis
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: b^3 on October 30, 2011, 07:44:01 pm
I put it in the next room, that way I have to get up and walk to turn it off. It that doesn't work then some angry family member wakes me up only 2 mins later than I was hoping.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: DisaFear on October 30, 2011, 07:49:33 pm
They won't be angry when you get your 99.95 :)
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: b^3 on October 30, 2011, 07:51:24 pm
They won't be angry when you get your 99.95 :)
For others yes, for me it's probably out of reach.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Water on October 30, 2011, 08:03:39 pm
I'm on 6 hours sleep a day. True story...Pressure keeps me awake  :'(


Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: TrueTears on October 30, 2011, 09:48:43 pm
For me, it kinda depends when I sleep and not how long I sleep, when I have a good sleeping pattern and sleep at around 11pm- midnight then 8 hours is sufficient and i feel fresh the next day. However if I have a shitty sleeping pattern (like i do now), sleeping at like 9am-10am, I sleep for like 12-13 hours and i still feel drowsy the next day. During exam time, my sleeping pattern is completely fucked, i normally don't sleep before my uni exams.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: TrueTears on October 30, 2011, 09:50:18 pm
For me, it kinda depends when I sleep and not how long I sleep, when I have a good sleeping pattern and sleep at around 11pm- midnight then 8 hours is sufficient and i feel fresh the next day. However if I have a shitty sleeping pattern (like i do now), sleeping at like 9am-10am, I sleep for like 12-13 hours and i still feel drowsy the next day. During exam time, my sleeping pattern is completely fucked, i normally don't sleep before my uni exams, however exam performance is unaffected.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: nemolala on October 30, 2011, 09:55:00 pm
When I wake up early, about 8ish-9, my day seems to be very productive but when i get up later, 10:30/11, I hardly do much work..it lacks quality..and quantity of course.
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 30, 2011, 10:01:42 pm
Wait, sleep?  What's sleep?
Title: Re: Sleep
Post by: mickeymouse on October 31, 2011, 11:12:53 am
haven't been getting great sleep
procrastinate during the day
then panic at night and study up late
change needed soon...