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National Education => Tuition Companies and Services => Tuition and Education Services => VCE (and related) Businesses => Topic started by: nina_rox on November 24, 2011, 09:52:53 pm
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Hi everyone,
I've been considering going to summer school before year 12 but I am unsure which TSFX or TSSM is better?
The subjects I'm considering to go to include:
- Specialist Maths
- Chemistry
- Physics
The reason I want to go is mainly to be exposed to the content before; so it sinks in quicker during school and I've also heard the notes are pretty decent for both which could be used throughout the semester.
Any help would be very much appreciated especially honest ones because I am very keen to do well next year. Let me know if its worth it! :)
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can't really comment upon TSSM, never been to them before, however its known throughout high schoolers that TSFX provide great notes that supplement the course material really really well.
So, if your going for notes that summarise the course content in a good manner, go TSFX, however some lectures tend to get a tad long and boring ( depending upon the lecturer you have ) :D, this is just my personal opinion, however most to all lecturers are well informed and experts in their area of study, and are pretty friendly towards all students are usually always open to questions.
As for TSSM, hopefully someone who has been there can answer that question because i am considering going their for spesh.
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Thanks Ravit. :) I agree on the 'tad too long' part. I know that the TSFX goes on for 3 days and Im scared that I'd hate the first session so much that I don't want to go to the rest... And then it'll just be a waste of money... But yes hopefully I get more opinions. :) thanks again for your input and yay go us for
doing spesh! :)
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Hey nina_rox,
I would personally recommend TSFX for spesh as it contains and includes more stuff to go over so it will be very comprehensive but 10.5 hours(1.5 for exam material) sitting there would be a NUT. TSSM are pretty good but still if you could, then go for TSFX.
For chemistry, I recommend you to attend Access Education as the length of lecturing just contain approx 3 hours and will go through the topics cover in Unit 3 plus question. The reason I advise you for Access Education chem lecture is because there is a lecturer named Chris Dwyer as he is a professional in chemistry and his lecturing wouldn't be boring and u will be shocked by his teaching style and knowledge.
As for physics, try NEAP as I heard their science subject are way more efficient and beneficial than other company.
You should buy some study guides and go through it during this holiday and it will cost you much cheaper to pay. Why pay so much to attend the lecture that's so long and time wasting as most of the study guides can give you more details and tricks/skills than the lecturer could give to you. Even though I should admit that I need motivation to study, so I prefer lecture sometimes but I still wish to study the books as you will expose to more info from various books rather than one lecturer(unless you attend many for one subject)Hope that will help you and good luck:D
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Woah, thank you so much Wenhao for your advice! :) I'll definately look into both Neap and Access Education now. :)
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That's fine !ur welcome...and ohh yeah
derrick ha summer lecture for spesh is currently the best(although it might be far for you but depending on where you staying).
better than anything you could get...and his books too.
should purchase whlist attending his lecture. ;D
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Is he part of TSFX? Or he is from a different company?
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He is not from TSFX..he tutors by himself and lectures by himself too..in wheeler hills(sorry if i pronounce wrongly).
http://www.derrickha.com.au/
that is his website..contact him if have abny queries..thanks! ;D
Btw his registration will be strating soon for summer lectures+ weekly tuition
as places can go faster than you can imagine.
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TSFX ALL THE WAY.
Personally, I think tsfx is more professional, the notes are more comprehensive and tabulated so you can use them for revision throughout the year. The lecturers were experts too.
I have been to tssm classes for health and it wasn't up to tsfx standard. But that's health so it might be good still i guess (TSSM - The school for Specialised maths? or something lol).
Be warned any summer school program is looooong and will fry your brain. :D
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Thank you Wenhao, I'll look into that now! :)
and haha Tisara thank you for your advice. Most people have been saying TSFX so I'll go with that one for most of my subjects. Thankyou! :D
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No worries :)
But you can trust that he knows what he's doing all the time.
Derrick Ha achieved all perfect score in his subject except englang 47
coz he is doing 7 subjects but aggregate is still the highest in that year
comparing in Victoria(not 100% sure coz his aggregate was 214+)
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Woah!! Have you had him before for something?
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No, I was planning to go for his tutoring 3/4 next year but still in year 10 now(so think over it as it will be pretty far for me to travel to him, 40+km ;D...All my friends which went to him will give good feedback about him and should really try out..I think you will enjoy it.:D
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I'm not tooo far away from him I guess, about 30 minutes? I'll try to contact him. thank you. :)
So you're in year 11 next year, are you doing a 3/4 subject?
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that sounds good to you.
yeah, doing bio and maybe methods as well
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Lucky! Your school allows you to do 2 3/4 subjects..! My school only allows one 3/4 in yr 11 and the subjects they offer are pretty bad neither methods or bio...
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Wow, r u in year 11 now? coz mostly government school get to do many 3/4 sub in year 11 coz they don't care much
while catholic school has less chance of doing more than one. what sub are you doing next year?
I just went to NEAP lecture today and pretty good(coz free) + bought some study guides with discount.
Can tell you that NEAP smartstudy guides are AWESOME and I did buy their new advantage
series for mm 3/4 + bio 4..can't buy unit 3 bio coz it will be available next year hehe
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Ohh yeah that's probably why.. I go to a catholic school. I'm doing englang, methods, spesh, physics ad chem next year
How many session are there for neap? For how long?
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Haha yeah, and which catholic school?
2 sessions but repeat = 2 hours each session..
I'm planning to go some summer lectures as
I will be quite free..can't choose between so
many company..well, worth for attending TSSM
3 for the price of 2?
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Yeah I was thinking about that too but if it crappy then you'd rather go to TSFX right?
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I'm from a catholic school too- smc
but changing soon.. Yeah true, and what do you
think? I was thinking it's quite worth(money)+ I will get
the CAS session for $35 if I'm going for 3 subjects..But you will be srs dead if
you are gonna pay 290 for to the crap lectures for sitting there 24 hours :-O .(3 lectures).. ;D
Btw pay $600 for going TSFX lectures for spesh, mehtods, chem, physics?..
or paying $290 for three subject+ a subject from TSFX around $140? :D
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Yeah true, TSSM is much cheaper but if the notes aren't that good.. then you'd rather pay more for better notes that you'd use throughout the next year.. I was thinking Neap or TSFX for Chemistry and Physics (if anyone knows which is better let me know) and then for Spesh maybe Derrick if not then TSFX
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Yeah, your synopsis is right and can't really confirm it though..
Help me! why don't one of us try TSSM and TSFX and give feedback
regarding to the summer lectures.Haha, maybe chem for TSFX but the lady
Irena Jaskula is kind of funny which teach stuff that's out of topic and complicates
all her students...so watch out! Physics for NEAP as there is a man name something DeJong
which seems to be pro..Well, if Derrick Ha is not conveient for travelling then I would suggest you
go TSFX as their notes are better than anywhere else..Derrick Ha sessions are more and goes for
a week +, so it will kind of wasted all ur holiday time while TSFX only 3 days.
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Ahh! Yeah, I don't know what to do now. I wish we could choose which lecturer we wanted.. that would change things.. I'm probably going to go to Neap for physics and TSFX for spesh. And have you been to the chemistry one for TSFX? Because in the brochure it says either Ms Irena Jaskula or Ms Sarah Pend could do the lecture?
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and Access Education for chemistry? How do you know all this? Have you been or have you had people go to them?
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Sarah Peng...yea, both are good...but maybe chris would be more good.
Well, all my frens love lectures and go to a few for every term..
They try out most of the famous lectures and that's why it's easy for me
to get a good lecture..Well, go both ..TSFX and Access for chem as access only $52..pretty cheap even if it's not good+only one day rather than going to a three day lectures which you get bored at the first lecture and wouldn't even bother going the rest..heh :P
I have been to a few although i'm in year10 and pretty good...
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Haha okay, thanks for your help. :) are you planning to go to lectures in the summer holiday? Depending on your subjects most are pretty straight forward with the help of your teacher you'll do more than fine. :)
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Yes, definitelt but wouldn't go too much as I don't see the point going too many subjects.
I might save up the money for travelling ;D
So, should be fine, but just toss up between NEAP or TSFX Methods,Bio..
haha np and wish you the best :D
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Thank you, you too. Btw one last question do you think TSFX chem or Neap chem would be better when comparing notes?
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I would actually think of TSFX are way better for notes
but TSFX lecturer just repeat what's on the notes..
so basically you just need to buy the notes from someone
and will cost cheaper..
while NEAP lecturer go through different things , not from the notes
and give you an overview(notes)of the unit 4 stuff, so you can prepare
at the same time.
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Ahhh okay so which to go to. TSFX has better notes but a waste of time while Neap lecture is better but not very good notes...? Where can I just buy TSFX notes? Is it possible to buy the notes from their company?
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Nah, I don't think you can just buy it unless you pay for the whole thingyy
and just go and get the notes,maybe you can just buy from this website as
someone will be selling their TSFX notes(in the selling section)... which subject are you planning to go for lectures again?
Btw I might try the tssm offers.
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Neap = Physics
TSFX = Spesh
Neap or TSFX for chemistry..?
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Ohh, the first two should be cool.
and the last one is your decision+ irena jaskula will go deeper wif the contents which is not in the textbook and other irrelevant knowledge..but still good though..easily confused students if you can't manage wif her. If you like this kind of lectures, then it's good to go.
If not maybe go for NEAP or Access. Gud luck. Don't late enrolling as I think year12 lectures will be out of enrolment easily.
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Would the notes the TSFX provide for chemsitry also be irrevelant as well? Is it made by her?
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How about TSSM chem?
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it's really hard to judge, in my opinion, don't bother about the summer lectures, it's much better to go to the end of year ones :)
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:) Thanks Paul for the advice. Just want to give some a try, hopefully they'll give good notes and good head start. :):)
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:) Thanks Paul for the advice. Just want to give some a try, hopefully they'll give good notes and good head start. :):)
Then you should just try one or two lectures.
Everyone has different opinion so better sort this out urself.
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Thank you very much for your advice wenhao! Sorry for the late reply, I've been on holidays. :)
Anyways, do you know if the english language lecture at TSFX is any good? Should I just buy the notes instead of going to the lecture?
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Heysa sorry for hijacking ya, is tsfx english and spesh good :P?
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lol, that's fine.
ummm, I think VATE will be better and TSFX spesh are actually good with the notes and lectures.
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So not worth to english language TSFX lecture? Even for the notes?
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You can go buy the notes and try it out...the lecture won't help much though. It depends on urself.
Liz Fear books are pretty good although I'm going to get some soon.
Btw is there a englang lecture for TSFX?I didn't see there was one. Enjoy.
Did you actually enrol the TSSM lectures?
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Thank you very much. :) Sorry I meant TSSM for english language. and no, I didn't book any TSSM lectures.
Btw, when and where can I buy the notes? On here?
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Just to clear this up now, NEVER GO TO TSFX ENGLISH SUMMER LECTURES!
You've been warned.
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Just to clear this up now, NEVER GO TO TSFX ENGLISH SUMMER LECTURES!
You've been warned.
Are you kidding?I think I booked already..then which lecture suits english as though there's not much choice durring summer holiday :)
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Go to someone from VN (EZ, shinny, KL-tutor, etc.), people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about. I (and many others I know) learnt absolutely NOTHING from the TSFX summer english program. And I'm not being cocky or anything, it was just boring and terrible. If anything, I learnt some WRONG techniques. Don't go, it's a waste of time + money.
edit: hang on, you're not even in yr11 yet... why did you book anyway?
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Haha thanks Rohitpi! Good thing I'm not doing English. 😃 your getting your results tomorrow right? Good luck!!!!!
So where do I find the notes alone?
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Go to someone from VN (EZ, shinny, KL-tutor, etc.), people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about. I (and many others I know) learnt absolutely NOTHING from the TSFX summer english program. And I'm not being cocky or anything, it was just boring and terrible. If anything, I learnt some WRONG techniques. Don't go, it's a waste of time + money.
Yeah, I was planning to go to Andrew but Im busy atm. Yeah his session seems to be pretty good and Im planning to try. EZ=?Vincent?.
Lol, are you srs?I thought they will be good at eveything but still yeah..they teach the wrong stuff for eng?I assume the chem(Irena) also teaches the wrong stuff.
edit: hang on, you're not even in yr11 yet... why did you book anyway?
Is it illegal to book even I'm not heading yr12?Haha jks :) I just feel like going to yr12 lectures
and the yr11 are pretty boring while yr12 lectures are cool and awesome :D heh
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Woah wenhao! You are very keen. Good on you!
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Woah wenhao! You are very keen. Good on you!
Thanks a lot but yeah might bump into you during lectures..haha
Did you enrol for Access?
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No I really wanted to but the times on there doesn't work for me.. :(
I'm going to Chem and physics neap and tsfx spesh. :)
Sorry where do I find notes for englang? Will it be there after the lecture?
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No I really wanted to but the times on there doesn't work for me.. :(
I'm going to Chem and physics neap and tsfx spesh. :)
Sorry where do I find notes for englang? Will it be there after the lecture?
Be at where?
and yeah phy and chem for NEAPcoz their question are really challenging, TSFX for spesh.
You will find it good and comment/tell me after you have been to this lecture.
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Do some people download te notes from the lectures on atar notes? And yes, I'll let you know.
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How do you download the notes from the lecture??unless someone scan it
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How do you download the notes from the lecture??unless someone scan it
Not from AN/VN.
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which companies do both unit 3/4 as part of their summer school program?? not just unit 3
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NEAP-an overview of unit 4 and TSFX tends to just touch little part.
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NEAP-an overview of unit 4 and TSFX tends to just touch little part.
Re: TSFX, not they don't. They don't even finish the whole of Unit 3 in the summer lectures
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Sorry my bad, the notes tend to go in depth lik unit4 stuff, but the lecture don't. It's not even finish for unit3 last year when I went there.
This teacher Irena is really boring=.=