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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => News and Politics => Topic started by: Thu Thu Train on December 19, 2011, 05:22:17 pm
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693
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I'm annoyed at some comments on FB. Regardless of the person, I don't agree with celebrating someone's death.
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At FB where? That's mean
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Kim Jong Il? I loved him in Team America World Police
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At FB where? That's mean
Facebook
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Yeah but in FB where?
give me a link .
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Dunno maybe just some friends posting statuses i saw some on my news feed.
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Ohh ok, lol not a nice thing to celebrate though. and why?
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I didn't care about him while he was alive, and I don't care about him now that he's dead.
But seriously so many FB status's like goddamn, I prefer it when people just make statuses about the weather LOL.
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I think people should be sad that he's dead. Now we'll have to put up with his psycho son Kim Jong Un who will probably go all Nazi on us. :( As if one rogue psycho dictator wasnt enough.
Also, the end of this: http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ :(
Unless Un decides he has a new hobby in looking at random objects :)
Does Un wear nice sunnies as well?
edit: forgot the Un in Kim Jong Un
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(http://www.mightygodking.com/images/kimjong4.jpg)
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*insert new evil North Korean dictator here*. Leaders come and go but the state of NK will be the same regardless.
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*notices that Mao has been relatively quiet on this issue today...*
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*notices that Mao has been relatively quiet on this issue today...*
Look man, I'm in a difficult diplomatic position here okay?
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Doesn't this mean that his son, who is even more of a maniac than he is, comes into power now?
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Doesn't this mean that his son, who is even more of a maniac than he is, comes into power now?
I'm just going to say it, as long as your not their leader nacho I think things will be all right.
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I guess you could say that Kim Jong was.... Il. 8)
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I guess you could say it's the end of his Korea
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Doesn't this mean that his son, who is even more of a maniac than he is, comes into power now?
I'm just going to say it, as long as your not their leader nacho I think things will be all right.
this unprovoked attack makes me unhappy
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Yeah but in FB where?
give me a link .
Mate, I'm assuming we have different friends on facebook.
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Saw this on a friends FB. LOL'd a lot, so I thought I'd share.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399510_2272422652914_1319096636_31766376_1886821069_n.jpg).
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I didn't even know who Kim Jong II was until they announced his death...
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
I'm guessing that they weren't directly told to cry.
But if you don't cry, you'd be the black sheep in the crowd and probably get jailed/killed
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abd123: The lack of precision and clarity in your post makes it hard for me to tell what your point is. Are you implying they were forced or weren't? Where are you going with this? Natural instincts = angry at oppression or all people deserve to be treated well, even KJI?
Really, that post could be interpreted either way.
EDIT: My personal opinion: The oppression of the North Korean people is horrendous, but it's wrong to celebrate a death, no matter whose death it is.
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
I'm guessing that they weren't directly told to cry.
But if you don't cry, you'd be the black sheep in the crowd and probably get jailed/killed
Something close to that, i just don't know if they weren't crying for him for real or not. It just seemed like there was a brute force upon the civilians to do what they are told from the communists.
@Funkyducky, sorry my english fails lol, I guess i was implying that they were force to cry. Sorry for the confusion ignore my stupidity, i just use longwords and cool words to sound smart i guess its not working :/.
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^ Nah that's fine. Making sense > big words ;)
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LOL, some American politician pronounced him as "Kim Jong the second".
I think it would have helped if he had seen this: KIM JONG-IL
instead of this: Kim Jong-Il
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
You are seriously delusional, you cannot force that many people to convey sadness and grief.
The regime they have been subject has for lack of a better word 'brainwashed' them into believing that their leader was actually all that the government claimed he was. These people are genuinely upset and distraught.
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This is my honest opinion, but I also felt that the crying was pretty much staged. Sure, there would be some in grief and shock, but I think all the scenes we see on Western television is what they WANT us to see, and I can't see how that isn't staged.
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
You are seriously delusional, you cannot force that many people to convey sadness and grief.
The regime they have been subject has for lack of a better word 'brainwashed' them into believing that their leader was actually all that the government claimed he was. These people are genuinely upset and distraught.
I dont want to start a massive debate but it is reasonable to believe that the citizens are being forced to 'convey sadness and grief'.
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This is my honest opinion, but I also felt that the crying was pretty much staged. Sure, there would be some in grief and shock, but I think all the scenes we see on Western television is what they WANT us to see, and I can't see how that isn't staged.
pi, both my parents and grandparents grew up in a Communist European state and at the death of the leader (Tito), they recall it as the saddest and most hollow day of their lives. It's as though your life has finished. Everyone wept for the entirety of the day and famously a football derby was cancelled with all players and people in the stand weeping and this was far before Western media was here.
Moderator action: removed real name, sorry for the inconvenience
Basically, you can't understand the mindset of these people and my parents said it was pretty similar scenes to when Tito died.
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Were the civilians of North Koreans were force to cry in front of the media?
Did the communists told the civilians to confront their sorrows and emotion in front of the media (due to Kim Jong-il's death)?
sorry for being rude, but thats just my natural instincts.
You are seriously delusional, you cannot force that many people to convey sadness and grief.
The regime they have been subject has for lack of a better word 'brainwashed' them into believing that their leader was actually all that the government claimed he was. These people are genuinely upset and distraught.
I dont want to start a massive debate but it is reasonable to believe that the citizens are being forced to 'convey sadness and grief'.
I just think all of them are doing a very very good job at it, oscars?
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Yeah channel 7 said the expression of grief was an organised event and the citizens were commanded to participate
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Yeah channel 7 said the expression of grief was an organised event and the citizens were commanded to participate
Yeah, Channel 7 is an accurate source.
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Yeah channel 7 said the expression of grief was an organised event and the citizens were commanded to participate
Yeah, Channel 7 is an accurate source.
I'm sorry I can't meet your ridiculously high standards </3
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Yeah channel 7 said the expression of grief was an organised event and the citizens were commanded to participate
Yeah, Channel 7 is an accurate source.
random internet critics are way more accurate though
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This is my honest opinion, but I also felt that the crying was pretty much staged. Sure, there would be some in grief and shock, but I think all the scenes we see on Western television is what they WANT us to see, and I can't see how that isn't staged.
pi, both my parents and grandparents grew up in a Communist European state and at the death of the leader (Tito), they recall it as the saddest and most hollow day of their lives. It's as though your life has finished. Everyone wept for the entirety of the day and famously a football derby was cancelled with all players and people in the stand weeping and this was far before Western media was here.
Basically, you can't understand the mindset of these people and my parents said it was pretty similar scenes to when Tito died.
I agree with this. It's hard being rational and skeptical when you are the subject of daily brainwashing.
Moderator action: removed real name, sorry for the inconvenience
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^ Mao would know!
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Yeah channel 7 said the expression of grief was an organised event and the citizens were commanded to participate
Yeah, Channel 7 is an accurate source.
random internet critics are way more accurate though
I just don't believe that this was staged:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw
Some of the emotions look pretty intense and these people are just ordinary people, not actors, I just don't think they could all do that good a job.
And remember before referencing Channel 7 remember this is a network that tried to ban Fluoride from our drinking water despite recommendations from dentists to add it to all forms of water including bottle, lol.
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Some of the emotions look pretty intense and these people are just ordinary people, not actors, I just don't think they could all do that good a job.
And remember before referencing Channel 7 remember this is a network that tried to ban Fluoride from our drinking water despite recommendations from dentists to add it to all forms of water including bottle, lol.
that's fair enough, and i just read your post about your parents as well
I have no idea what the mindset of these people would be like
i thought it was just out of fear for their lives and tears of some joy covered as tears of pain
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I don't even know what you guys are arguing about so whatever dude
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwlqkzKLxR1r8bj5ko1_500.jpg)
http://kimjongildroppingthebass.tumblr.com/
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Yay