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Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2011 => Topic started by: TonyEcon on December 28, 2011, 05:28:34 pm
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So I got an invitation, well not even an invitation, rather a notification stating that I may get invited to government house. Who else got this? what does it mean?
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So I got an invitation, well not even an invitation, rather a notification stating that I may get invited to government house. Who else got this? what does it mean?
with those raw scores I'm gonna say perhaps Australian Student Prize?
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Yup, I got an invite too. :D
But I suspect that yes, it's for the Australian Student Prize.
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Yeh I got one too, it's a bit strange how it says 'may.'
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Very strange indeed.
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I got one... been trying to work it out.
Yeh I got one too, it's a bit strange how it says 'may.'
I think this is because it's not an invite, the VCAA cannot invite us to Government House, hence the letter we got is simply telling us why the Governor will soon be inviting us (while being very careful not to invite, and hence saying 'may').
So I got an invitation, well not even an invitation, rather a notification stating that I may get invited to government house. Who else got this? what does it mean?
with those raw scores I'm gonna say perhaps Australian Student Prize?
I don't think so, that has little to do with the state Governor, instead it appears to be about "Federal Minister for Education, Employment and Workplace Relations" - http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/excellenceawards/australianstudentprize.html
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You sure it's not premier's award?
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Could be premiers - I was the only national politics 50 and one of four for international studies. So that would make sense, does everyone with an invite have a 50?
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You sure it's not premier's award?
From the Governor, not premier, it may mean we will be getting premier's awards but I think that's separate.
Did you get one of the invites Paul?
does everyone with an invite have a 50?
This is a good question.
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No, I didn't get one, which seems to suggest a premier's award, because so far, the only ones who have gotten it seem to be people with 50's (possible premier's)
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I know Student Prize is supposedly on raw scores, so wouldn't be surprised if I don't get one, but I'd be surprised if you didn't paul...
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I got one... been trying to work it out.
Yeh I got one too, it's a bit strange how it says 'may.'
I think this is because it's not an invite, the VCAA cannot invite us to Government House, hence the letter we got is simply telling us why the Governor will soon be inviting us (while being very careful not to invite, and hence saying 'may').
So I got an invitation, well not even an invitation, rather a notification stating that I may get invited to government house. Who else got this? what does it mean?
with those raw scores I'm gonna say perhaps Australian Student Prize?
I don't think so, that has little to do with the state Governor, instead it appears to be about "Federal Minister for Education, Employment and Workplace Relations" - http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/excellenceawards/australianstudentprize.html
Take what I said back then ahaha.
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I know Student Prize is supposedly on raw scores, so wouldn't be surprised if I don't get one, but I'd be surprised if you didn't paul...
Our raw scores aren't too different though, it's only really methods where I'm a lot higher, the others really cancel out I guess
I'm pretty sure it's not premier's though, cause I was just thinking about it and that's released next year, in April or something like that, same with the Australian Student Prize, so maybe it's just like for a photo or something :P
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I'm not going to lie, if it's a photo I will be a little aggravated given the fact they wasted my time with giving me an invitation without an invite.
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I thought they gave out awards for the top 500 or something? am I wrong? or is that the Australian student's prize.
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I'm not going to lie, if it's a photo I will be a little aggravated given the fact they wasted my time with giving me an invitation without an invite.
If you don't want the photo, I'm happy to take your place :P
I thought they gave out awards for the top 500 or something? am I wrong? or is that the Australian student's prize.
I'm pretty sure that's the Australian Student Prize
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I wonder why paul... :P
But yup that's the Aussie Students' Prize.
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When you say top 500, do you mean the 500 highest ATAR scores in Victoria?
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Top 500 from Australia.
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I wonder why paul... :P
But yup that's the Aussie Students' Prize.
Wait, is this the aussie award? that we're invited too?
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I thought they gave out awards for the top 500 or something? am I wrong? or is that the Australian student's prize.
yeah that's aus student prize, our dux got it last year with 99.40, but she had high raw's (anyone know of anyone lower/with low raws?)
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http://www.deewr.gov.au/schooling/AustralianStudentPrize/Pages/default.aspx
There were 132 from Victoria last year...
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Eh i got the letter, but my scores aren't that impressive. So i don't think this is anything too special - probably photos as suggested.
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Eh i got the letter, but my scores aren't that impressive. So i don't think this is anything too special - probably photos as suggested.
Definite 'not that impressive'?
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yep, i got it too... :)
dunno whati it means though
pretty vague...
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Yeh, I got this letter in the mail today.
It's like the prelude to the actual invitation...
But I'm going to be in China for all of January so I won't be able to go :(
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more suitable question is...WHAT DO WE WEAR.
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Eh i got the letter, but my scores aren't that impressive. So i don't think this is anything too special - probably photos as suggested.
Definite 'not that impressive'?
He's lying, he's got a couple of raw 50s and a few other beastish scores...
Far too modest taqi
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more suitable question is...WHAT DO WE WEAR.
Black Tie event.
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fuck it, i'll go starkers.
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I got one.... my scores aren't even that good lol.
EDIT: Maybe it is Premier's and they've sent this to the top 10 of each subject or something... because eco doesn't really have many people who got 50's. Anyway, I bet I don't get an actual invitation haha.
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^ Completely plausible, there are four 50's in Economics - Perhaps they award 5 premiers awards for that subject?
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Usually they only award three. Ahhh, this is so secretive haha!
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I got a call from the department of education, I missed it though!
Did anyone else get a call?
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I didn't get the call.
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Was yours by email/letter?
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Oh so you got a phone call but no letter? interesting.
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Yeah, but I have no idea what the phone call is about, could be something completely different.
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Australian Student Prize is given to the top 500 students of the state I'm pretty sure! I saw it in the local newspaper earlier this year.
Nah definitely Australia, http://www.deewr.gov.au/schooling/AustralianStudentPrize/Pages/default.aspx
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Hmmm so the premier's award is usually held at Government house right? Maybe they're doing it earlier this year. Lol if I got one with 49 though.
But then it says it's part of Australia day celebrations!! Lol wtf! I nearly threw it out when I got it cos I thought it was some lame lunch they invite everyone over 95 to hahah
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for australian student prize what is the atar cutoff usually.?
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for australian student prize what is the atar cutoff usually.?
our dux last year got one with 99.40, but she had quite high raws...which I've heard somewhere are taken into account rather than ATAR...
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well thats just stupid if the raws are taken into account!
ive got 49 47 45 43 40 (french)
chances?
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well thats just stupid if the raws are taken into account!
ive got 49 47 45 43 40 (french)
chances?
our dux was 50, 49, 46, 44, 41
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]our dux was 50, 49, 46, 44, 41
so it looks as if i actually might have a chance!
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^ You got an amazing ATAR, of course you have a chance.
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^ You got an amazing ATAR, of course you have a chance.
It's not based on ATAR though, I know of people who have gotten 99.85 and did not get it because they did a lot of upscaling subjects, i.e. languages
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Ok I've asked like EVERYONE and I can only find one other person who got an invite (they got 50 in english). Not even someone with 99.90 got one. I'm so curious!!!!!!!!
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^ Jealous of your economics mark
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^ Jealous of your economics mark
Ahahaha. Jealous of my 34 too? :)
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Ok I've asked like EVERYONE and I can only find one other person who got an invite (they got 50 in english). Not even someone with 99.90 got one. I'm so curious!!!!!!!!
Maybe all the dudes who got 50 in at least one subject? That'd be a lot of ppl!
Or could be something to do with the Victorian nominations for the ASP.
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Ok I've asked like EVERYONE and I can only find one other person who got an invite (they got 50 in english). Not even someone with 99.90 got one. I'm so curious!!!!!!!!
Maybe all the dudes who got 50 in at least one subject? That'd be a lot of ppl!
Or could be something to do with the Victorian nominations for the ASP.
Nah the guy with 99.90 got 50 in english... and I didn't get any! Ooooh student prize would be awesome but my raw scores suck.
I'm bringing everyone's hopes down here :) sorry guys! Maybe its just random...
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i got the letter saying that i MAY get invited..
why cant vcaa be more specific and say whether i have to go or not.. completely throwing my holiday plans into rabbles..
EDIT: Have the actual invitiations been handed out yet? Ive been away and I just got the letter today
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Yeah everyone's says that. It'd be so mean if they just didn't invite us now. Man, I'm going to be like the dumbest person there.
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Yeah everyone's says that. It'd be so mean if they just didn't invite us now. Man, I'm going to be like the dumbest person there.
I was meant to leave on the 16th.. then had to change cause of offers.. changed it to 18th.. NOW THIS COMES UP..
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Ok I've asked like EVERYONE and I can only find one other person who got an invite (they got 50 in english). Not even someone with 99.90 got one. I'm so curious!!!!!!!!
Maybe all the dudes who got 50 in at least one subject? That'd be a lot of ppl!
Or could be something to do with the Victorian nominations for the ASP.
Nah the guy with 99.90 got 50 in english... and I didn't get any! Ooooh student prize would be awesome but my raw scores suck.
I'm bringing everyone's hopes down here :) sorry guys! Maybe its just random...
could that be me?! o:
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A friend told me that the VCAA cannot formally invite anyone to Gov't house and that's why its 'may'
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Ok I've asked like EVERYONE and I can only find one other person who got an invite (they got 50 in english). Not even someone with 99.90 got one. I'm so curious!!!!!!!!
Maybe all the dudes who got 50 in at least one subject? That'd be a lot of ppl!
Or could be something to do with the Victorian nominations for the ASP.
Nah the guy with 99.90 got 50 in english... and I didn't get any! Ooooh student prize would be awesome but my raw scores suck.
I'm bringing everyone's hopes down here :) sorry guys! Maybe its just random...
could that be me?! o:
Haha that scared me so much for a sec. Nah, he's not the type of guy that would be on this.
Yeah everyone's says that. It'd be so mean if they just didn't invite us now. Man, I'm going to be like the dumbest person there.
I was meant to leave on the 16th.. then had to change cause of offers.. changed it to 18th.. NOW THIS COMES UP..
I'm leaving on the 20th phewwwww
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i got the letter saying that i MAY get invited..
why cant vcaa be more specific and say whether i have to go or not.. completely throwing my holiday plans into rabbles..
EDIT: Have the actual invitiations been handed out yet? Ive been away and I just got the letter today
lol, just don't go, i'll take your place, i'll do our school proud! :D
and btw, i'm really surprised i didn't get one now, i think it's cause of your 50, our raws are pretty similar :\
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i got the letter saying that i MAY get invited..
why cant vcaa be more specific and say whether i have to go or not.. completely throwing my holiday plans into rabbles..
EDIT: Have the actual invitiations been handed out yet? Ive been away and I just got the letter today
lol, just don't go, i'll take your place, i'll do our school proud! :D
and btw, i'm really surprised i didn't get one now, i think it's cause of your 50, our raws are pretty similar :\
Do you know anyone else from our school that got it?
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Do you know anyone else from our school that got it?
Not that I know of, I'd be really surprised if Ryan didn't get it
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It must be something to do with getting a 50. I got 97.85 which is lower than all of you, yet I still got an invite. I may still be overseas at the time, so I really want, and perhaps need to find out what this is all about incase I need to alter my arrangements.
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But I didn't get 50 lol!!!!!!! I'm so so so so so so curious now!
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But you did eco, how many 50s does eco have?
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eco has 4 from memory
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Is premiers given to top 5 or top 3? If top 5, then maybe Tashi made it in :)
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Hahaha that would actually be hilarious. I thought it was usually top 3 though, it's based on how many people do the subject.
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Is premiers given to top 5 or top 3? If top 5, then maybe Tashi made it in :)
Depends on the number of people doing the subject, I think there was only one for software development last year (from memory)
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I got the so called invitation too. no idea what its about tho... but it doesnt seem liek its for the aus student prize cos arent the winners announced in june? not sure tho ...
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Hmmmm everyone else seems to have a 50.
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I just got the official invitation from the Governor and his wife. Still doesn't provide much detail, with the occasion being to 'celebrate Australia day.' The Dress code is lounge suit/ day dress if anyone was wondering. Doesn't answer why we have been invited though.
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I just got the official invitation from the Governor and his wife. Still doesn't provide much detail, with the occasion being to 'celebrate Australia day.' The Dress code is lounge suit/ day dress if anyone was wondering. Doesn't answer why we have been invited though.
Yes I got this too. I think it's just a general reception, to be honest; nothing specific to do with students whatsoever. You'll notice underneath the dress information it says "Decorations/Medals may be worn", which would seem to indicate that there will be war veterans present. In light of all this I'd suggest it's just a generic reception and, needing some young people to counterbalance the elderly guests, they sought out high achieving students.
Although I still don't understand why we're "celebrating Australia Day" on the 19th of January...
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Yup, got the official invite :D
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I just got the official invitation from the Governor and his wife. Still doesn't provide much detail, with the occasion being to 'celebrate Australia day.' The Dress code is lounge suit/ day dress if anyone was wondering. Doesn't answer why we have been invited though.
Yes I got this too. I think it's just a general reception, to be honest; nothing specific to do with students whatsoever. You'll notice underneath the dress information it says "Decorations/Medals may be worn", which would seem to indicate that there will be war veterans present. In light of all this I'd suggest it's just a generic reception and, needing some young people to counterbalance the elderly guests, they sought out high achieving students.
Although I still don't understand why we're "celebrating Australia Day" on the 19th of January...
Yeh, I just fund out that it's the top 100 students in Victoria who get an invite. But I'm not sure that is an accurate description, because the criteria is probably best students in certain subjects. Perhaps that is where the 50 scores come into play. I won't be in Australia at the time and as you mentioned, it is only a general reception, so highly doubt I'll change my plans now. You can send people on your behalf as well. I don't understand that either, why isn't this held on Australia day, or closer to the day? ???
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Got the official invite too :D
They place a sticker with your name and address on it. behind the sticker i can read:
" Samad Raza
C/- Department of Education"
Don't know exactly what this means...
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Yep, I got mine. Fancy invitation lol. What is day dress??? Anyway... see you guys there I suppose.
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Got the official invite too :D
They place a sticker with your name and address on it. behind the sticker i can read:
" Samad Raza
C/- Department of Education"
Don't know exactly what this means...
Care of Department of Education... Probably this came from the Governor's office then sent to Dep. Education which found our address and mailed it to us.
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I got the invite, it's just a generic reception.
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I got the invite, it's just a generic reception.
Nerd convention :)
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I got the invite, it's just a generic reception.
Nerd convention :)
lol...
yep, got the invite too...
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I don't think it can be top 100, people i know have got higher atars and still not been invited. it must be something to do with 50's or premiers awards.
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yeh i got the invite too...except it implies you can bring only one guest? do you think i can bring my mum and dad lol
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Saw this on government house website:
January 19th 2012
Government House reception for Victorian high achieving students
High achieving students and guests are invited to the annual Nerd Convention
Attending will be distinguished guests including the Hon. Alex Chernov AO QC
LOL just kidding :P
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Got the invite :D
should we take a VN photo? :)
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Sorry i cbf reading the whole thread, but can someone enlighten me as to what this invitation is for/about? cheers xx
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Got an invite too! Do you think we'd be able to keep the invite card? Looks so nice and I like things with my name on it :D
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Saw this on government house website:
January 19th 2012
Government House reception for Victorian high achieving students
High achieving students and guests are invited to the annual Nerd Convention
Attending will be distinguished guests including the Hon. Alex Chernov AO QC mostly ATARNotes members
LOL just kidding :P
come on, ATARNotes members are just better :D right guys? :)
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Got an invite too! Do you think we'd be able to keep the invite card? Looks so nice and I like things with my name on it :D
I was hoping this too!
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hey does anyone still have the email address to RSVP to?? thanks
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Ok so is there food at this thing? And to any girls, what are you wearing????
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Guys, I assume we're suiting up?
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yes sultan thushan, you have to suit up
to impress the governor and the bevy
of ladies coming in there.
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Ok so is there food at this thing? And to any girls, what are you wearing????
i dont know.... is it supposed to be more on the casual side? or more on the formal side? cos the guys have to be in suits dont day?
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LOL since when was I a Sultan!?
Yeah, it's a formal dress code. :D
EDIT: whatever "lounge suit/day dress" means actually
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It says "day dress". I'm wearing like a green summery "smart casual" dress.
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For anyone trying to find me, i'll be a curry dude wearing the lounge suit with white shirt w grey stripes and black tie. Come say hi!
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For anyone trying to find me, i'll be a curry dude wearing the lounge suit with white shirt w grey stripes and black tie. Come say hi!
Just look for the guy who looks like his dp :P
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Well that was interesting.
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LOL. So. What was that about?
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I'm still confused. Nice to meet you though!!!!!
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I'm still confused. Nice to meet you though!!!!!
You too! Small world, huh!
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I was there too! and i saw you thushan but i was too initimidated by the smart people around you to say hi :P
you might have seen me around.. i was the asian kid wearing the blue skinny tie
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Damn...! you should have said hi - we don't bite!!! :D
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So how was it guys?, what did you do there?
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Uhhh Ted Ballieu and Alex Chernov gave a speech about celebrating Australia Day. Ate some fancy finger food, drank some champagne... yeah it was pretty random.
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Uhhh Ted Ballieu and Alex Chernov gave a speech about celebrating Australia Day. Ate some fancy finger food, drank some champagne... yeah it was pretty random.
drank a little too much champagne.. dad had to drive so he gave like all of his to me..
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Uhhh Ted Ballieu and Alex Chernov gave a speech about celebrating Australia Day. Ate some fancy finger food, drank some champagne... yeah it was pretty random.
drank a little too much champagne.. dad had to drive so he gave like all of his to me..
LOL
Personally I loved the apple juice :) And that spinach quiche.
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Does anyone know how they nominate for the Australian Student Prize, i.e. the criteria?
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Does anyone know how they nominate for the Australian Student Prize, i.e. the criteria?
I wish, apparently on raw scores but it's not confirmed...also could be so many in a particular school/region?
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Does anyone know how they nominate for the Australian Student Prize, i.e. the criteria?
From what I've heard, an aggregate is calculated the same was as is done by VCAA, but with raw scores (that is, top 4 summed, and then 10% of the next two added together). The top ~130 or so students in Victoria (depending on how many there are Australia wide vs. Victoria) are awarded an Australian Student Prize.
I have also heard that "school recommendation" is a thing, but I'm not sure this is true.
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Does anyone know how they nominate for the Australian Student Prize, i.e. the criteria?
From what I've heard, an aggregate is calculated the same was as is done by VCAA, but with raw scores (that is, top 4 summed, and then 10% of the next two added together). The top ~130 or so students in Victoria (depending on how many there are Australia wide vs. Victoria) are awarded an Australian Student Prize.
I have also heard that "school recommendation" is a thing, but I'm not sure this is true.
:D that would be awesome for me..
EDIT: does english still have to count in the top 4??? cause then it would suck :(
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I still don't understand why raw scores are used; obviously scaling is used for a reason to calculate ATAR?
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I still don't understand why raw scores are used; obviously scaling is used for a reason to calculate ATAR?
I agree, logically it doesn't make much sense as it doesn't take into account the varying difficulty of subjects, but hey it's the Australian Government and I don't think they're known for their logic.
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It completely illogical to use raw scores. Are they really saying that a 47 in HHD is the same as 47 in french?
Thats disgraceful.
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50 in latin vs 50 in food?
Considering no one got a 50 in latin, a bit unfair no?
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Last year there were 132 recipients from Victoria for the ASP. It's based on Victoria's share of all Year 12. Included in that number are the maths and other Olympiad team members. All IB candidates with 45 score and VCE students with 99.95 are also automatically included.
If it were based on ATAR then the cut-off would be around 99.80.
As far as I have read it is best 4 study scores - raw scores plus 10% of next 2 subjects including extension subjects. English doesn't have to be in the top 4. From the people I know who have received them, you need to have an average top 4 score of about 47- 48+.
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hmm.. i may or may not get it then..
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If it's off raw's I wouldn't complain :P.
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...I agree, logically it doesn't make much sense as it doesn't take into account the varying difficulty of subjects, but hey it's the Australian Government and I don't think they're known for their logic...
Aus Gov't >> Any other country's Gov't