ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: monkeywantsabanana on January 02, 2012, 01:30:56 am
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In response to a Maths thread that I read, I decided to make this separate one in asking: SHOULD YOU AIM HIGH AND FALL SHORT OR AIM LOW AND BE HAPPY WITH A HIGHER SCORE THAT YOU GET?
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I've always aimed low and be happy with the score I get because most of the time, it is higher... although I do have really high expectations
If I aim high, and fall short, I will be disappointed so I tend to avoid this type of thinking...
What do you guys think?
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aim high before exams
expect low afterwards
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What about:
3. Aim realistically?
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Definitely aim high, because you will work towards achieving it. But if you don't get it, you'll have no regrets.
But if you do aim low, usually you will surprise yourself with how well you go anyway. :P
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AIM HIGH (and as dc said realistically) so you have something to work towards, something to strive for and to motivate you. Then as long as you've put the effory in and worked hard all year and have no regrets (no going to happen but you get what I mean) then you should be happy with whatever score you get since that is all you could do, that is what you could do when you give it you're best shot.
Good Luck :)
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What about:
3. Aim realistically?
You deserve all the +1's you can get. Rather, I should just say 'this.'
I had realistic aims, but why bother aiming at all? It's petty. All you need to be aware of is that you're working hard (Which hopefully you are if you have this mindset). If you work hard, you will have no regrets either way when it's over. No, your efforts did not go to waste. Even if in the situation you work hard and don't get the results, you won't feel regret, but rather annoyance. And the latter is far better to digest.
To counteract a lack of clearly defined goal and thus a supposed lack of motivation, compete with your friends. Do it obliviously, but intentionally. Go in and just aim to beat your friends, over time you might be surprised by how far you get. Although if you don't have equally as good or better friends, then aim realistically and ignore what I said :P.
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Aim for something you can realistically achieve.
In relation to ATAR, if you've been get E's and F's throughout school you shouldn't be aiming for 99.95 going into year 12. Similarly if you've been getting A's you shouldn't be aiming for a 60.
Most people know what ATAR bracket they will fit in (given ~5-7 or so leeway below/above), you should aim for the upper range of this bracket.
If you set out aims which aren't achievable, you'll be mid-way through the year, knowing you can no longer get it - reassessing what you can get - this would be quite demotivating for most people.
With this being said, if you set them low, you won't be motivated, you won't work as hard as you can and won't get results that truly indicate your true potential.
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Aim for something you can realistically achieve.
In relation to ATAR, if you've been get E's and F's throughout school you shouldn't be aiming for 99.95 going into year 12. Similarly if you've been getting A's you shouldn't be aiming for a 60.
Most people know what ATAR bracket they will fit in (given ~5-7 or so leeway below/above), you should aim for the upper range of this bracket.
If you set out aims which aren't achievable, you'll be mid-way through the year, knowing you can no longer get it - reassessing what you can get - this would be quite demotivating for most people.
With this being said, if you set them low, you won't be motivated, you won't work as hard as you can and won't get results that truly indicate your true potential.
However you can start from say a D+ in English and move all the way up to an A by the time of the exam. I was never a brilliant english student but I put the time and effort in and gradually made small improvements.
Don't think just because your got E's to that you can't improve, sure its more draining, and your less motivated in most people, but keep trying.
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What about:
3. Aim realistically?
that^.
i don't think it's a matter of whether at the end of the year you're disappointed or happy. of course it matters a heck lot, but in the end its WHAT score you get.
so in that regard, aim REALISTICALLY, and if you end up achieving what you've always wanted, you'll reap the benefits of hard work :)
or else if you aim for say a 50 from the start of the year, you may not feel as motivated as if you were aiming for say a 42 (and you know you could achieve it with lots of hard work.)
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If you aim for 50, you will try your absolute hardest and while you may come short, you know that you've done your absolute best.
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of course it matters a heck lot, but in the end its WHAT score you get.
Only for the first week or so after they release :P After that it's whether you have a pathway into your course or not.
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aim high and work hard towards that goal and ask your self how will i achieve that 50 in chemistry oh what do i have to do through out the year ,and use your time wisley . I dont see why you cant achieve a great atar. But you have to work hard inorder to see the results. Nothings impossible and in vce everyone has a chance to achieve to their best.
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Aim for something you can realistically achieve.
In relation to ATAR, if you've been get E's and F's throughout school you shouldn't be aiming for 99.95 going into year 12. Similarly if you've been getting A's you shouldn't be aiming for a 60.
Most people know what ATAR bracket they will fit in (given ~5-7 or so leeway below/above), you should aim for the upper range of this bracket.
If you set out aims which aren't achievable, you'll be mid-way through the year, knowing you can no longer get it - reassessing what you can get - this would be quite demotivating for most people.
With this being said, if you set them low, you won't be motivated, you won't work as hard as you can and won't get results that truly indicate your true potential.
However you can start from say a D+ in English and move all the way up to an A by the time of the exam. I was never a brilliant english student but I put the time and effort in and gradually made small improvements.
Don't think just because your got E's to that you can't improve, sure its more draining, and your less motivated in most people, but keep trying.
Yes, this is very true, grades from previous years aren't always a clear indication of what you can achieve. Given, you can develop good work ethic and make use of all resources at your disposal, you can improve by several grades. Maybe they should be your (not actually you, camo) realistic aim for a certain subject, to improve by 3 grades or something similar.
aim high and work hard towards that goal and ask your self how will i achieve that 50 in chemistry oh what do i have to do through out the year ,and use your time wisley . I dont see why you cant achieve a great atar. But you have to work hard inorder to see the results. Nothings impossible and in vce everyone has a chance to achieve to their best.
Just remember, their are people out there who just don't have the intelligence to be right at the top, despite strenuous hours of work. For this reason, their calling is in other fields.
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or else if you aim for say a 50 from the start of the year, you may not feel as motivated as if you were aiming for say a 42 (and you know you could achieve it with lots of hard work.)
happenned to me in English =.=
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Just remember, their are people out there who just don't have the intelligence to be right at the top, despite strenuous hours of work. For this reason, their calling is in other fields.
More often than not, it's not a matter of intelligence, but it's that they're not working correctly and hence, they have issues with applying what they've learnt. I don't think any VCE subject requires intelligence, it's just understanding really, it's not a psychometric test/intelligence test.
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Thanks all! It seems as though I'll be changing my thinking!
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aim high but think pessimistically and that you're the worst student out there! but silently think "im better than that."
hope that made sense haha
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"The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark."---Michelangelo
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Aim high, that goes without saying. If you shoot for the stars but land on the moon you've done well.