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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: nubs on January 18, 2012, 05:46:03 pm
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Originally this was just for me, but I thought it would be easier if everyone just posted their questions here
anyway
In the handbook, it says I'm allowed to do CHEM10004 (Chemistry 2) in the Summer term, but it doesn't give me the option to do it then when I'm selecting my subjects online during the enrollment process thingo
any ideas?
Also, I'm thinking of taking first year Chem and biol, along with Physics Fundamentals
Will this be enough to cover the content for the GAMSAT if I choose to sit it? If not, is there another subject I should think of picking up?
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In the handbook, it says I'm allowed to do CHEM10004 (Chemistry 2) in the Summer term, but it doesn't give me the option to do it then when I'm selecting my subjects online during the enrollment process thingo
any ideas?
Also, I'm thinking of taking first year Chem and biol, along with Physics Fundamentals
Will this be enough to cover the content for the GAMSAT if I choose to sit it? If not, is there another subject I should think of picking up?
Enrolment for summer subjects happens in November.
First year chemistry, biology and physics (both semesters) should cover most of the science component of the GAMSAT.
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Ok thanks :)
It's just that in the 'select subjects' part of the enrollment - with the study planner for the 3 years - for some subjects like Chemistry 1, it gives me the option of choosing Semester 1 or semester 2. But I don't get that for Chemistry 2, it only gives me Semester 2, but according to the handbook I should also have the option of selecting the Summer Term
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Ok thanks :)
It's just that in the 'select subjects' part of the enrollment - with the study planner for the 3 years - for some subjects like Chemistry 1, it gives me the option of choosing Semester 1 or semester 2. But I don't get that for Chemistry 2, it only gives me Semester 2, but according to the handbook I should also have the option of selecting the Summer Term
Yeah there are many things wrong with the portal in general, so don't worry. Just leave chem 2 and enroll in it later.
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ok so just wait it out?
And at this stage, I only need to apply for six level 1 sciences and two level 1 breadths, don't I? I can't apply for subjects that I plan to do in 2013?
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ok so just wait it out?
And at this stage, I only need to apply for six level 1 sciences and two level 1 breadths, don't I? I can't apply for subjects that I plan to do in 2013?
I think you can plan it but you shouldn't be able to actually enroll in them since you don't have the prereqs completed. And yeah, wait it out.
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How did you figure out how to work subject selection? I'm completely bewildered here.
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Yeah it took me a while, but I'm finally getting the hang of it
I think it's something like this:
You can plan your entire 3 years, but can only enrol in subjects for 2012 (so no subjects available in the summer term)
You'll need a total of 8 subjects for first year (6 science and 2 breadth)
Pretty sure you can swap your two breadth for two science subjects for first year, or you can save this option for later years 'cause you still have to do a minimum of 4 breadths at certain levels
anyway, i think this is what you were asking for, and I think this is what you have to do:
where it says Science Level 1, click 'choose' and choose your subject. You should be able to do this 5 times for 5 different level 1 subjects (You have to do a minimum of five level 1 subjects)
Then go on to the next one which is called 'Science Level 1, 2 & 3' and then click choose again, and there you can obviously choose a science subject at any level, but you'd need to satisfy the prerequisites for the subject to be able to enrol into it
once you have done your 6 science subjects, go on to the breadth part of it, and do the same thing
I'm not sure if that's any help or if that's even right but yeah
anyway, my turn
Ok so, this is what my study plan is looking like without the breadth
Semester 1: Accelerated Mathematics 1 - Chemistry 1 - Biology of Cells and Organisms
Semester 2: Accelerated Mathematics 2 - Chemistry 2 - Genetics and Evolution of Life
*I will then take Physics 1: Fundamentals in Semester 1 of 2013
*Or, I could swap Biology of Cells and Organisms with Physics 1: Fundamentals
But the thing is, I want to be ready for the GAMSAT, and since I'm pretty lazy, I'd rather be taught than learn on my own
Since I have no experience in physics (apart from the motion in spec), and I did well in Biol, it sounds better for me to do the Physics subject in the first year and self learn the Biology one over summer, doesn't it? Or does the biol section require much more attention, with the physics one being simple since it's year 12 level?
I could also do this, which seems to be a better option in regards to covering GAMSAT topics:
Semester 1: Accelerated Mathematics 1 - Physics 1: Fundamentals - Biology of Cells and Organisms
Semester 2: Accelerated Mathematics 2 - Chemistry 1 - Genetics and Evolution of Life
*Take Chemistry 2 in the Summer Term
Does something look wrong with that^? Or is it just a bad idea?
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Your second one sounds good, it's what I would have done if I were you, especially because you will finish chem 2 before gamsat.
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hmm, it's just that the handbook doesn't tell me if Chemistry 2 is confirmed for the 2013 summer term, so if it ends up not being offered then I just die
That's the only thing that's keeping me
Is there any reason for me to think it won't be offered again for next year's summer term?
and will Physics 1: Fundamentals be enough? 'Cause Edmund said I should take two semesters of it. I could always just self learn one of the Biol subjects if that's the case
I've been told it's nearly the same as year 12 biology, just with a bit more detail
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Just do 4 sciences in semester 1 this year...?
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Yeah it took me a while, but I'm finally getting the hang of it
I think it's something like this:
You can plan your entire 3 years, but can only enrol in subjects for 2012 (so no subjects available in the summer term)
You'll need a total of 8 subjects for first year (6 science and 2 breadth)
Pretty sure you can swap your two breadth for two science subjects for first year, or you can save this option for later years 'cause you still have to do a minimum of 4 breadths at certain levels
anyway, i think this is what you were asking for, and I think this is what you have to do:
where it says Science Level 1, click 'choose' and choose your subject. You should be able to do this 5 times for 5 different level 1 subjects (You have to do a minimum of five level 1 subjects)
Then go on to the next one which is called 'Science Level 1, 2 & 3' and then click choose again, and there you can obviously choose a science subject at any level, but you'd need to satisfy the prerequisites for the subject to be able to enrol into it
once you have done your 6 science subjects, go on to the breadth part of it, and do the same thing
I'm not sure if that's any help or if that's even right but yeah
Thanks - it's starting to make sense now. But I accidentally put ENGR10003 into the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field. I was meant to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field with all my level 1 sciences but I already had 5. Do you know how to delete it?
And I'm seriously confused as to what all these BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3, BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2, BS-BREADTHL1-3 - Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects, BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects, BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth and etc means. There are just so many categories it's a nightmare to do.
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance
Here are 3 subjects you have to do in first year commerce
ECON10004 Introductory Microeconomics (semester 1)
ECON10003 Introductory Macroeconomics (Semester 2)
(this is maths ->) ECON10005 Quantitative Methods 1 - bad news, you cannot do it as a breadth, you will have to do it after starting commerce
So i suggest you do those 2 economics subjects on your current degree, and when you transfer you will be very close to a start-intake commerce student. ie: you will be only 1 subject behind (ECON10005)
I dont know how much room you have in your study planner but you could try some electives if you're interested
Finance 1, Managing and Leading Organisations, Accounting Reports and Analysis, Principles of Marketing
However put priority on the compulsory Economics subjects
EDIT: I have no clue about engineering stuff though :/ get advice on that first to see if it can all fit together. perhaps you can start the maths requirements for engineering within your science degree?
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Thanks - it's starting to make sense now. But I accidentally put ENGR10003 into the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field. I was meant to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field with all my level 1 sciences but I already had 5. Do you know how to delete it?
And I'm seriously confused as to what all these BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3, BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2, BS-BREADTHL1-3 - Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects, BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects, BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth and etc means. There are just so many categories it's a nightmare to do.
You're supposed to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field if you you already have 5 subjects selected for the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field - you can't put any more into that field. If you want to do more than 5 level 1 subjects in first year, you need to enter the subject into the Science Level 1, 2 & 3 one
Ok, so
BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1
You have to enrol in 5 subjects here to reach the minimum of 62.5 points for Level 1 Science subjects (12.5 points x 5 subjects)
BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2
Same as Science Level 1, except you need 5 Science Level 2 subjects instead of Level 1. You need at least 62.5 points for both Level 1 and Level 2 subjects
BS-SCISUBLV3 Science Level 3
Here you also need at least 2 Science Level 3 subjects to make up the required total of 25 points.
BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major
50 of these points will come from the 4 subjects you do for your major which will be done in your 3rd year.
You need to complete a total of 225 points worth of Science subjects. So the minimum from each of the 3 levels gives us 200 points, leaving us the option of choosing two more Science subjects from each level to make up the 225.
BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3
That is why we are given this option^
So yeah just choose another 2 subjects here, and they can be from any level seeing as you will ultimately meet the minimums from the 3 levels anyway
Now for Breadth
Option for BS-BREADTHL1-3 Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects
You need 3 subjects here, but keep in mind you can only do a maximum of 3 level 1 breadth subjects
BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects
You need 1 breadth subject here from either Level 2 or 3
BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth
You need to put in another 2 here, and they can be either Science and/or breadth subjects from any level (but keep in mind you can do more than 3 Level 1 breadth subjects)
Confirm/deny anyone^?
hmm, it's just that the handbook doesn't tell me if Chemistry 2 is confirmed for the 2013 summer term, so if it ends up not being offered then I just die
That's the only thing that's keeping me
Is there any reason for me to think it won't be offered again for next year's summer term?
I got an email from UoM saying it will be offered again for next year's summer term
Just do 4 sciences in semester 1 this year...?
I never thought of that, I guess I was just really set on doing Accelerated Maths 1 & 2 and both breadth this year
So are you saying I should take 2 semesters of physics to cover the GAMSAT material?
But yeah what you said actually works out perfectly
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance
That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods. You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge. But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics. If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance
That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods. You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge. But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics. If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.
Yeah I was thinking of doing Calc 2, just because I enjoy maths and I'm pretty I need it for engineering anyway... but other than that I think I'll do subjects that I think I'll be good at do attain a 75% average :p
I enjoy maths, and I can see you've majored in maths and stats. if I put in the work and like maths, are the maths subjects doable or is the maths really hard?
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Does anyone know how many actual 'subjects' you do for first year science? I know that you do a breadth, science elective and ones related to your future job e.g. civil engineering.
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^Look at my post El2012 (Second one on this page)
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Question, I'm interested in transferring from science to commerce after a year (preferably a semester) what subjects should I take so that I can transfer to commerce and complete an engineering breadth track?
I was thinking of taking civil systems subjects (for engineering) and commerce subjects in my breadth, what are the other 'science' subjects that could benefit me most? Or be are 'easy' to do well in so I have a better chance to receive a 75+% average?
I would recommend ECON10004 Introductory to Microeconomics in semester 1 because it's a core subject for all B.Com people so you'll be surrounded by commerce kids so if you want to make friends prior to transferring that won't be a problem. It's also a very easy subject even if you haven't economics in VCE.
Thanks! Any subjects within science subjects that could help me with commerce? any maths maybe?
I'm interested in eco and finance
That maths you tackle in finance in the first two years is no harder than year 12 methods. You'll also have to know how to use a scientific calculator (yes, a scientific calculator from years 7 & 8 ) but that's assumed knowledge. But with economics, in second year, you'll have to learn the chain rule and the like for Intermediate Microeconomics. If you don't want to be rusty on that, you could do Calculus 1 or 2 depending on whether or not you did Specialist Maths.
Yeah I was thinking of doing Calc 2, just because I enjoy maths and I'm pretty I need it for engineering anyway... but other than that I think I'll do subjects that I think I'll be good at do attain a 75% average :p
I enjoy maths, and I can see you've majored in maths and stats. if I put in the work and like maths, are the maths subjects doable or is the maths really hard?
Oh that's right, you want to do Engineering. Then I think you'll have to do Calculus 2, Linear Algebra and Engineering Maths.
If you're on top of the material being taught, do the practice questions that they give then maths is doable* despite the exam being worth 80%.
*Unless if it's pure maths. Pure maths is reserved for the almighty and Chuck Norris minds.
Does anyone know how many actual 'subjects' you do for first year science? I know that you do a breadth, science elective and ones related to your future job e.g. civil engineering.
Most people do 8, ie. 4 each semester. But in science, they're aren't any compulsory subjects you have to do in first year. You just choose a selection of subjects that tickle your fancy and then from there, you crop them down to your major. That's how it usually works I think.
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^Look at my post El2012 (Second one on this page)
Ah thanks, didn't notice.
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hey ive got 8 subjects done for biomedicine and it says that my enrolment is not complete?? anyone know why??
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You're supposed to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field if you you already have 5 subjects selected for the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field - you can't put any more into that field. If you want to do more than 5 level 1 subjects in first year, you need to enter the subject into the Science Level 1, 2 & 3 one
Ok, so
BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1
You have to enrol in 5 subjects here to reach the minimum of 62.5 points for Level 1 Science subjects (12.5 points x 5 subjects)
BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2
Same as Science Level 1, except you need 5 Science Level 2 subjects instead of Level 1. You need at least 62.5 points for both Level 1 and Level 2 subjects
BS-SCISUBLV3 Science Level 3
Here you also need at least 6 Science Level 3 subjects to make up the required total of 75 points. 50 of these points will come from the 4 subjects you do for your major which will be done in your 3rd year. Another two Level 3 subjects will make up the remaining 25 points needed
You need to complete a total of 225 points worth of Science subjects. So the minimum from each of the 3 levels gives us 200 points, leaving us the option of choosing two more Science subjects from each level to make up the 225.
BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3
That is why we are given this option^
So yeah just choose another 2 subjects here, and they can be from any level seeing as you will ultimately meet the minimums from the 3 levels anyway
Now for Breadth
Option for BS-BREADTHL1-3 Breadth Level 1-3 Subjects
You need 3 subjects here, but keep in mind you can only do a maximum of 3 level 1 breadth subjects
BS-BREADTHL2-3 - Breadth Level 2-3 Subjects
You need 1 breadth subject here from either Level 2 or 3
BS-SCI&BREADTH - Science and Breadth
You need to put in another 2 here, and they can be either Science and/or breadth subjects from any level (but keep in mind you can do more than 3 Level 1 breadth subjects)
Confirm/deny anyone^?
My goodness thank you, it makes sense now. It seems right..
What would 'BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major' be for? And by Level 1, 2, 3 - do they mean 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year?
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Oh, the Science Major one is for the 4 subjects that make up your major
So if you're doing a pure mathematics major, go to the unimelb handbook and look up the 4 subjects you need to complete that major
you can't enrol into those 4 subjects now for obvious reasons, but plan them out to make sure you do the prereq subjects in your first and second years
and I edited my previous post to include the BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major
And by Level 1, 2 and 3, it doesn't mean 1st year, 2nd year or 3rd year, because you can do Level 1 subjects in 3rd year and level 3 subjects in 2nd year etc
They just measure the level of difficulty
A certain level 2 subject usually requires a particular level 1 subject as a prerequisite, and a level 3 subject may need a level 2 subject to be completed before you can do it
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Thank you so much. It's not as daunting anymore. Is it right that you can only enroll in your first year subjects BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 and BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 ? I haven't selected any Breadth subjects, just from those two.
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Think so, you should be able select your breadth subjects as well though.
You can plan your entire 3 years if you want, but you can only enrol in the subjects you intend to do in your first year
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I have 2 subjects in BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 though, so would I be doing them in the first year?
And which Breadth category do you put your Breadth subjects in?
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Uh I guess? That would mean you only have 4 in the 'Science Level 1' category, yeah? I think it would be better to have 5 in the 'Science Level 1' category, and one subject in the 1, 2 & 3 category, but I don't think that should matter. Maybe wait for one of the other guys to confirm that for you.
Also, after you select the subject, you need to tick the box next to it, and then scroll down and click on 'continue to enrol'
and for your breadth, since it's your first year, you probs won't be able to do it in the Breadth Level 2 & 3 one, but you could do it anywhere else
Don't do it in the 'Science and Breadth' one though, because that one allows you to trade a breadth for a science subject, so you may want to save the option for later
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I have 5 in Science level 1, and 2 in the 'BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3' I need to get rid of Engineering materials, I put it down thinking I'd be doing it in 2nd year or something.
So I'd just put my 2 breadth subjects in the BS-BREADTHL1-3 Breadth Level 1-3 ?
Thanks for your help!
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no worries mate
does anyone know if I can do 1 breadth in first year, and then do 3 in second year?
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Nothing wrong with that at all.
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How come everyone is doing BIOL10004 (Biology of Cells and Organisms) and BIOL10005 (Genetics & The Evolution of Life) to satisfy two semester of biology (to do pre-req for med)? How about BIOL100002(Biomolecules and Cells) and BIOL100003 (Genes and Environment) ??? is ther something wrong with them? -.-
EDIT: SO i want to enrol in summer subjects, i do not enrol in Chemistry 2 now?? i wait until november right??
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How about BIOL100002(Biomolecules and Cells) and BIOL100003 (Genes and Environment) ??? is ther something wrong with them? -.-
Those are the biomed subjects, they are not available for science students.
And yes, if you want to enrol in a summer subject don't enrol in it now, but wait until November.
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How about BIOL100002(Biomolecules and Cells) and BIOL100003 (Genes and Environment) ??? is ther something wrong with them? -.-
Those are the biomed subjects, they are not available for science students.
And yes, if you want to enrol in a summer subject don't enrol in it now, but wait until November.
ah ok thanks for that :) So can i leave one level1 science subject spot blank then??? because i plan to take chemistry 2 over the summer... Or do i still have to fill them all up?
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How about BIOL100002(Biomolecules and Cells) and BIOL100003 (Genes and Environment) ??? is ther something wrong with them? -.-
Those are the biomed subjects, they are not available for science students.
And yes, if you want to enrol in a summer subject don't enrol in it now, but wait until November.
ah ok thanks for that :) So can i leave one level1 science subject spot blank then??? because i plan to take chemistry 2 over the summer... Or do i still have to fill them all up?
Yes you can leave it blank. You can choose to do your course however you like really, as long as you finish it within 10 years (but note that if you have a load of 2 subjects or less then you are considered a part-time student instead).
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For BS-SCISUBLV123 , wouldn't it be smart to just pick level 1 subjects??? which are easier and thus you can get higher GPA??
I have no idea which level 3 subjects to pick :S i am majoring in BCMB, should i just pick subjects from the sample course plan in : http://bsc.unimelb.edu.au/majors/major/biochemistry ?
Okay i've accidentally chose Chemistry 2 already, i can't seem to find an option to remove it. only swapping it.... how do i remove it from the subject list?
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No one has told me yet, how Many subjects you need to finish your enrolment?? I have 8 for the first year, does that mean my enrolment is complete ?
Help would be appreciated, I posted this before but no one seemed to reply
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For BS-SCISUBLV123 , wouldn't it be smart to just pick level 1 subjects??? which are easier and thus you can get higher GPA??
I have no idea which level 3 subjects to pick :S i am majoring in BCMB, should i just pick subjects from the sample course plan in : http://bsc.unimelb.edu.au/majors/major/biochemistry ?
Okay i've accidentally chose Chemistry 2 already, i can't seem to find an option to remove it. only swapping it.... how do i remove it from the subject list?
In the admin tab there should be a link to withdraw from subjects. Also, you can choose level 1 subjects as long as you don't have more than 10 in your study plan. Choosing easy subjects to boost GPA is actually a common occurrence I believe.
No one has told me yet, how Many subjects you need to finish your enrolment?? I have 8 for the first year, does that mean my enrolment is complete ?
Help would be appreciated, I posted this before but no one seemed to reply
The standard is 8 yes, although I don't know if it will 'complete' your enrollment (they were never tight about this anyway). Better to enroll in 8 now and change it later if you want. For instance, doing 3 subjects in semester 2 instead or something.
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So how exactly do we complete our enrolment?
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Thanks dc302 :)
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so confused so I'm up to the "Select Subjects" and everytime I attempt to try and search up a course like Introduction to Microeconomics I get this message:
"Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria." I'm probably doing something wrong...
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With regards to completing enrollment, I believe that in the past, all we had to do was complete the enrollment declaration and enroll in at least 1 subject in semester 1. They are trying to get people to enroll in everything now though, so I am not sure if that has changed.
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With regards to completing enrollment, I believe that in the past, all we had to do was complete the enrollment declaration and enroll in at least 1 subject in semester 1. They are trying to get people to enroll in everything now though, so I am not sure if that has changed.
what if i plan to transfer? should i still enrol the full year just in case? i haven't had a chance to speak to melbourne uni yet so..
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Choosing just the subjects for one semester will be fine.
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so confused so I'm up to the "Select Subjects" and everytime I attempt to try and search up a course like Introduction to Microeconomics I get this message:
"Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria." I'm probably doing something wrong...
I have the exact same problem.. what do you guys put in to enrol for subjects?
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Nevermind I got it. You just have to press Search to begin with.
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So i put Fundamental Chemistry semester 1 (because i havnt done VCE chem) and i put Chemistry 1 in semester 2.
Now when i try to enrol them i get the message :
CHEM10003 - Chemistry 1 is an Anti-Requisite for CHEM10007 - Fundamentals of Chemistry in which you are trying to enrol.
:S what did i do wrong??
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Um you can't do Chem 1 and Fundamental Chemistry, you can only do one of them. If you get permission to do both, you'll only gain credit for one of them
Just like you can't do both of Physics 1 and Physics 1: Fundamentals
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Really??? how do you know?? because it doesn't say anything like that in the handbook.
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/CHEM10007
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/CHEM10003
The pre-req for Chemistry 1 is Fundamentals of Chemistry (because i havnt done VCE chem)
EDIT: For physics subjects it specifically states : "Students may only gain credit for one of:" but it doesn't say this in Chemistry,
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Oh I just assumed, sorrrrrrry
EDIT:
An antirequisite means that you must do Chemistry 1 after you do Fundamental Chemistry
Maybe it's just a warning or something, does it actually not allow you to enroll?
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When i actually click enrol, it just gives me an error saying "CHEM10003 - Chemistry 1 is an Anti-Requisite for CHEM10007 - Fundamentals of Chemistry in which you are trying to enrol."
i can't proceed any further :/
it doesn't it matter in which order i have setup my level 1 subjects??? fundamental chem is first and chemistry 1 is in the fourth spot
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just a quick question, is it COMPULSORY to enrol in our subjects before AAD? i've done the enrolment part in my course, but not my subjects yet. i want to wait until i decide whether to transfer or not. Can i enrol in my subjects after AAD?
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just a quick question, is it COMPULSORY to enrol in our subjects before AAD? i've done the enrolment part in my course, but not my subjects yet. i want to wait until i decide whether to transfer or not. Can i enrol in my subjects after AAD?
You are required to complete all of the administrative steps of the enrolment process, but not ‘Enrol into subjects’ before attending Academic Advice Day.
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When i actually click enrol, it just gives me an error saying "CHEM10003 - Chemistry 1 is an Anti-Requisite for CHEM10007 - Fundamentals of Chemistry in which you are trying to enrol."
i can't proceed any further :/
it doesn't it matter in which order i have setup my level 1 subjects??? fundamental chem is first and chemistry 1 is in the fourth spot
Is Fundamental Chemistry in Semester 1 and Chemistry 1 entered in Semester 2? If it already is, it may just be because you haven't already completed Fundamental Chemistry, and that's why you can't do Chemistry 1. So maybe you'll just have to wait til you actually complete Fundamental Chem before you can enrol in Chem 1?
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just a quick question, is it COMPULSORY to enrol in our subjects before AAD? i've done the enrolment part in my course, but not my subjects yet. i want to wait until i decide whether to transfer or not. Can i enrol in my subjects after AAD?
You are required to complete all of the administrative steps of the enrolment process, but not ‘Enrol into subjects’ before attending Academic Advice Day.
TA. goes to show i just don't read. :P
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When i actually click enrol, it just gives me an error saying "CHEM10003 - Chemistry 1 is an Anti-Requisite for CHEM10007 - Fundamentals of Chemistry in which you are trying to enrol."
i can't proceed any further :/
it doesn't it matter in which order i have setup my level 1 subjects??? fundamental chem is first and chemistry 1 is in the fourth spot
Is Fundamental Chemistry in Semester 1 and Chemistry 1 entered in Semester 2? If it already is, it may just be because you haven't already completed Fundamental Chemistry, and that's why you can't do Chemistry 1. So maybe you'll just have to wait til you actually complete Fundamental Chem before you can enrol in Chem 1?
yea it is i've double checked :/ this is getting annoying lol
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YAy!! i got it working :)
i enrolled in Chem fun first and then enrolled into chem 1 separately after :)
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I have no idea if what I'm doing is right. I'm currently trying to fit in 4 subjects per semester which I've managed to do (with the help of breadths - one which I haven't decided on yet. Then when I scroll down I see 'Option for BA-MAJORS Majors' and 'Option for BA-MAJORS Major 2.' What am I supposed to do with these categories? I'm planning to do a double major in Crimonology and Politics and International Studies but if that's not possible, then a single major in Politics and International Studies.
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I have no idea if what I'm doing is right. I'm currently trying to fit in 4 subjects per semester which I've managed to do (with the help of breadths - one which I haven't decided on yet. Then when I scroll down I see 'Option for BA-MAJORS Majors' and 'Option for BA-MAJORS Major 2.' What am I supposed to do with these categories? I'm planning to do a double major in Crimonology and Politics and International Studies but if that's not possible, then a single major in Politics and International Studies.
You don't have to plan the majors until later, but if you want to now, simply do a blank search in majors and select a major. Then it will create 3-4 more slots for your major subjects (I think it should be 3, but not sure). Then do a blank search for majors 2, and you should have the option of either doing a second major or not. Click one of those. It may not work exactly like this, but this is how the commerce one worked last year so..
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sooo.. i've got these subjects (for bSC)
1. Biology of cells & organisms
2. Genetics & the evolution of life
3. an optics subject
4. calc 2
and i'm stuck withhhhh: chemistry
I haven't done chem in vce so i'd have to do chem fundamentals and then would i do chem 1 after and/or chem 2 after? Would it mean for studying chemistry i'd have to do 2 chem subjects (chem fundamentals, chem 2) or 3 chem subjects (chem fundamentals, chem 1, chem 2) ?
If I did have to do chem fundamentals, chem 1, chem 2, would I still be able to do: 1. Biology of cells & organisms
2. Genetics & the evolution of life
3. an optics subject
4. calc 2
Because i'm unsure whether i'd have to cancel a subject to do chemistry, with all this fundamentals stuff.. seeing as we can only do 6 subjects (excluding breadth) first year?
I really hope this makes sense lol
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Your post is a bit confusing but you can do Chemistry 2 over the summer; so you don't need to cancel anything. That's what i will be doing
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Your post is a bit confusing but you can do Chemistry 2 over the summer; so you don't need to cancel anything. That's what i will be doing
Do you know when that starts/finishes? :S
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And do you happen to know whether you enrol in chem 2 for the summer through the selecting subjects process in enrolment online, or somewhere else?
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Not exactly sure but probably around january or febuary??? and it will finish before start of semester 1.
And enrolment for summer courses starts in November (around there), you would have to wait until then. you can do it online when they start enrolment for summer courses
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Not exactly sure but probably around january or febuary??? and it will finish before start of semester 1.
And enrolment for summer courses starts in November (around there), you would have to wait until then. you can do it online when they start enrolment for summer courses
thanks so much! :)
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in regards to summer subjects...do you just have to pay for the subject as though it was an additional thing. It's not the full price or whatever...but discounted with the HECs? i think i read somewhere you had to pay full or soemthing...CAP subjects...these aren't it, are they?
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in regards to summer subjects...do you just have to pay for the subject as though it was an additional thing. It's not the full price or whatever...but discounted with the HECs? i think i read somewhere you had to pay full or soemthing...CAP subjects...these aren't it, are they?
No, that is only if you are over the subject limit. Otherwise it is entirely part of your degree and there is no difference in payment (ie, it is still CSP).
Your post is a bit confusing but you can do Chemistry 2 over the summer; so you don't need to cancel anything. That's what i will be doing
Do you know when that starts/finishes? :S
Pretty much starts the first week of january, goes for about 6 weeks, 7th week is exams, 8th week holiday, 9th week start of semester 1.
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in regards to summer subjects...do you just have to pay for the subject as though it was an additional thing. It's not the full price or whatever...but discounted with the HECs? i think i read somewhere you had to pay full or soemthing...CAP subjects...these aren't it, are they?
No, that is only if you are over the subject limit. Otherwise it is entirely part of your degree and there is no difference in payment (ie, it is still CSP).
Your post is a bit confusing but you can do Chemistry 2 over the summer; so you don't need to cancel anything. That's what i will be doing
Do you know when that starts/finishes? :S
Pretty much starts the first week of january, goes for about 6 weeks, 7th week is exams, 8th week holiday, 9th week start of semester 1.
dammmnnnn... no room whatsoever to recharge my batteries -.- my fault for not doing vce chem :/
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Is it draining not having the summer semester off, dc302? Or does it not make too much of a difference anyway?
I'll only be doing Chem 2 over the summer term btw
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The alternative is doing well in Fundamentals of Chemistry, skipping Chemistry 1 and doing Chemistry 2 in semester 2 with all the VCE Chem students :)
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The alternative is doing well in Fundamentals of Chemistry, skipping Chemistry 1 and doing Chemistry 2 in semester 2 with all the VCE Chem students :)
When you mean well, do you mean consistent H1s? lol
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Not consistent H1's, you just need to go well in Fundamentals of Chemistry, it's either 80+ or 85+
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If I'm concerned with my GPA..
Is it better to take easy subjects as compared to something more demanding and heavy? Are subjects moderated in any way? :s
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If I'm concerned with my GPA..
Is it better to take easy subjects as compared to something more demanding and heavy? Are subjects moderated in any way? :s
It is best to take the subjects that interest you the most. I believe that there can be moderation of subjects, but the amount to which this happens is not made public.
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Is this my enrolment done for the year? Will I be eligible to timetable on January 30th and receive my student ID? I want to get in as soon as possible!
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I think someone else said you only need to enrol for the semester not the year. So I think you would only be able to make up your timetable for the subjects your doing in your first semester
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Do breadth subjects play a role in your GPA?
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Yup, they aren't considered any different from any other subject in your degree when calculating GPA.
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Do we enrol for semester 1 or semesters 1 and 2???
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I think for now you only need to enrol for 1.
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I'm doing 1 breadth for my first year, so I'm just wondering which one I should take
Literature and Performance, Philosophy: The Big Questions or Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Is the workload of Literature and Performance intense?
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Do biomed student has to finish enrolling their subject before the 23rd? The problem is I still need help with finding my breadth subject, I've enrolled my core subjects for the first year but not my breadths. When is the deadline?
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Do biomed student has to finish enrolling their subject before the 23rd? The problem is I still need help with finding my breadth subject, I've enrolled my core subjects for the first year but not my breadths. When is the deadline?
Deadline is some time in march, called the census date. You can enroll in whatever you want and you can change it as often as you like until that day.
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Given I don't exceed 6 breaths in total...
Am I allowed to take two breaths in one semester?
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Yup!
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how about 3??
EDIT: i meant 3 breadth for the year :) *semester 1/2
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So after i enter my subjects into the online enrolment page (the one with personal details, etc.) I can still change the subjects later on right? Also, do I have to choose all of the subjects now?
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You can change your subjects as often as you like up to the census date. You do not have to choose all of your subjects now.
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how about 3??
EDIT: i meant 3 breadth for the year :) *semester 1/2
You sure can. As long as you stick to the guidelines set out for you degree (for science, https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/B-SCI) you'll be fine.
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Ok I still have no clue how to get past the subject selection page in the enrolment steps. It asks for a code, but I've tried a few different codes I found in the handbook and all of them say there are no matching structures.
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Is this my enrolment done for the year? Will I be eligible to timetable on January 30th and receive my student ID? I want to get in as soon as possible!
I'll warn you now. Critical thinking is a pretty crap subject for at least two reasons.
Firstly, it has statistics in it, which has to be the most boring topic in the world.
Secondly, it is being taken by Rob Maillardet. He is a nice enough lecturer, but can't explain anything, and will break your eardrums every time he gets excited and his voice goes all loud and high pitched....
Also, the assessment looks like a complete pain in the ass.
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Just posting in here for future reference :)
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Is this my enrolment done for the year? Will I be eligible to timetable on January 30th and receive my student ID? I want to get in as soon as possible!
I'll warn you now. Critical thinking is a pretty crap subject for at least two reasons.
Firstly, it has statistics in it, which has to be the most boring topic in the world.
Secondly, it is being taken by Rob Maillardet. He is a nice enough lecturer, but can't explain anything, and will break your eardrums every time he gets excited and his voice goes all loud and high pitched....
Also, the assessment looks like a complete pain in the ass.
OMG THANK YOU! I hate statistics so much. You saved my life. Replacing that with Forests in a Global Context and moving Business Law to semester 1. :)
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Is this my enrolment done for the year? Will I be eligible to timetable on January 30th and receive my student ID? I want to get in as soon as possible!
I'll warn you now. Critical thinking is a pretty crap subject for at least two reasons.
Firstly, it has statistics in it, which has to be the most boring topic in the world.
Secondly, it is being taken by Rob Maillardet. He is a nice enough lecturer, but can't explain anything, and will break your eardrums every time he gets excited and his voice goes all loud and high pitched....
Also, the assessment looks like a complete pain in the ass.
OMG THANK YOU! I hate statistics so much. You saved my life. Replacing that with Forests in a Global Context and moving Business Law to semester 1. :)
No problem. If you look at the Objectives bit of the handbook entry, it is just craftily worded and has a lot of stats in it. Compare it to the first year biomed stats subject and you'll see what I mean.
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/UNIB10006
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/MAST10011
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I did CTWD, it was okay in the first few weeks - when the lecturer occasionally had interesting anecdotes.
Unfortunately, the stats part of the course came in once it was too late for people to change subjects. It bored me to tears and on the rare occasions I turned up I saw the lecture hall about 90% empty. It didn't help that the lecturer (a different guy to the one stonecold mentioned) was deadly dull and spent ages covering yr 10 level probability and the same case studies over and over.
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I did CTWD, it was okay in the first few weeks - when the lecturer occasionally had interesting anecdotes.
Unfortunately, the stats part of the course came in once it was too late for people to change subjects. It bored me to tears and on the rare occasions I turned up I saw the lecture hall about 90% empty. It didn't help that the lecturer (a different guy to the one stonecold mentioned) was deadly dull and spent ages covering yr 10 level probability and the same case studies over and over.
Imagine a whole subject of this...
I haven't done CTWD, but just from reading the handbook entry, it is more than enough to know it is a terrible subject.
And WTF is with the assessment. It is like the most laborious thing I've ever seen.
-3 Assignments
-15 online quizzes
-Group project and oral presentation
-Another assignment due at semesters end
-Exam
That is so much work for a first year subject. Avoid it like the plague IMO.
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Has anyone done Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics or an equivalent? I was told that I should be able to do Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics due to my Spec score, do you reckon this is a good idea? Or should I just stick with Fundamentals?
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Hey Nirbaan!
"You're supposed to put it in the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field if you you already have 5 subjects selected for the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1 field - you can't put any more into that field. If you want to do more than 5 level 1 subjects in first year, you need to enter the subject into the Science Level 1, 2 & 3 one"
any changes on this after AAD?
thanks!
SO the BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 field is like an extra bag for subjects thats the (6th) in either year's 1,2 &3?
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Has anyone done Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics or an equivalent? I was told that I should be able to do Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics due to my Spec score, do you reckon this is a good idea? Or should I just stick with Fundamentals?
It's Physics if you got 30 or above, under 30 or if you didn't do it in VCE and you should take fundamentals.
I'd like to ask, is Calculus 2 in the first year required for a Mechanical Systems major?
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Can anyone gimme a brief explaination on the way we should pick our subjects in the Level 1, level 2, level 3 and level 1,2,3 caters.
And
all we need to enroll into is the subjects in Level 1 or Level 1,2,3 (if we have extra sciences) before 30th of Jan right?
I am going to do Civil Systems as major in Year 3.
Here is my current (planned) subjects for my Level 1.
Calculus 1 -Semester 1
Physics 1 -Semester 1
Linear Alg -Semester 2
Calculus 2 -Semester 2
Engineering Systems Design 2 - Semester 2
I might be doing Calculus 1 +2 in the breadths. So this way i can pick 3 more Complementary subjects.
Is this a good plan for my first year?
Thanks!!!
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Can anyone gimme a brief explaination on the way we should pick our subjects in the Level 1, level 2, level 3 and level 1,2,3 caters.
And
all we need to enroll into is the subjects in Level 1 or Level 1,2,3 (if we have extra sciences) before 30th of Jan right?
I am going to do Civil Systems as major in Year 3.
Here is my current (planned) subjects for my Level 1.
Calculus 1 -Semester 1
Physics 1 -Semester 1
Linear Alg -Semester 2
Calculus 2 -Semester 2
Engineering Systems Design 2 - Semester 2
I might be doing Calculus 1 +2 in the breadths. So this way i can pick 3 more Complementary subjects.
Is this a good plan for my first year?
Thanks!!!
For your maths subjects, I did exactly the same thing in first year. I felt that it was fine.
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For your maths subjects, I did exactly the same thing in first year. I felt that it was fine.
If i put calc 1+2 in the breadth section.
DO u have any ideas of which Complementary subjects i should take?
probably pick some in the Recommended Background Knowledge criteria?
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So my friend is doing BComm@UoM, and she's been told at AAD to pick her major now, ie. pick relevant subjects to it. She called me for help and welllll I have absolutely no idea, I'm doing a completely different degree at a different uni. Could anyone shed some light?
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Has anyone done Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics or an equivalent? I was told that I should be able to do Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics due to my Spec score, do you reckon this is a good idea? Or should I just stick with Fundamentals?
It's Physics if you got 30 or above, under 30 or if you didn't do it in VCE and you should take fundamentals.
I'd like to ask, is Calculus 2 in the first year required for a Mechanical Systems major?
Calculus 2 is required, but not necessarily in first year, although I strongly recommend you do do it in first year in case it screws up your subjects in subsequent years.
So my friend is doing BComm@UoM, and she's been told at AAD to pick her major now, ie. pick relevant subjects to it. She called me for help and welllll I have absolutely no idea, I'm doing a completely different degree at a different uni. Could anyone shed some light?
That's easy, as long as you say what major she's interested in.
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'Progression: Students must normally complete 50 points of study at one subject year level before proceeding to the next subject year level.'
*From Melbourne Handbook
Can the 50 points include a level 1 breath? Because I am currently enrolled in a level 2 subject in semester 2. :s
Will this be okay?
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'Progression: Students must normally complete 50 points of study at one subject year level before proceeding to the next subject year level.'
*From Melbourne Handbook
Can the 50 points include a level 1 breath? Because I am currently enrolled in a level 2 subject in semester 2. :s
Will this be okay?
That I think is a guideline and afaik it doesn't really affect or restrict your subjects. I did a level 2 subject in semester 1, a level 2 subject in semester 2, and then 2 level 3 subjects in semester 1 of the next year..
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Has anyone done Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics or an equivalent? I was told that I should be able to do Physics 1 without having done VCE Physics due to my Spec score, do you reckon this is a good idea? Or should I just stick with Fundamentals?
It's Physics if you got 30 or above, under 30 or if you didn't do it in VCE and you should take fundamentals.
I'd like to ask, is Calculus 2 in the first year required for a Mechanical Systems major?
Calculus 2 is required, but not necessarily in first year, although I strongly recommend you do do it in first year in case it screws up your subjects in subsequent years.
So my friend is doing BComm@UoM, and she's been told at AAD to pick her major now, ie. pick relevant subjects to it. She called me for help and welllll I have absolutely no idea, I'm doing a completely different degree at a different uni. Could anyone shed some light?
That's easy, as long as you say what major she's interested in.
That's the thing, she doesn't really know...
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Hi, I was considering doing Accelerated Mathematics 1 (MAST10008), which leads into Accelerated Mathematics 2. However, I didn't get the required raw study score of 38+ in Spesh. I would have to do the Advanced Placement Test (APT).
Does anyone know of the difficulty of the APT, the content it covers (e.g. methods or just spesh, what parts) and if I'd have the time to prepare for it (its on the 24th Feb)?
I'd like to know a bit more about it so that if i do give it a shot I can make the most of my time.
Thanks :)
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I haven't completed VCE Spesh maths and I intend on enrolling in Calculus 1 and Calculus 2 in semesters 1 and 2 this year respectively.
BUT
the system doesn't allow me to enrol in Calculus 2 as I haven't completed Calculus 1 as of yet (since Calc 1 is it's prerequisite).
Is there a way for me to enrol in Calculus 1 for sem 1 and Calc 2 for sem 2?
Does this mean I must wait until I complete Calculus 1 at the end of semester 1 before the system then allows me to enrol for Calculus 2?
Thanks peeps :)
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That's the thing, she doesn't really know...
Accounting and finance are popular majors, so perhaps she might consider that. It is good to note that if you also do accounting, then there are no prereq finance subjects in first year (but if you don't do accounting then there may be). If she has done vce accounting then I believe there are 2 further first year accounting subjects she needs to do in first year. It may be wise to do one of these at least.
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Sorry, but one more question:
Are we supposed to enrol in all our level 1, 2 and 3 subjects?
If so, in the drop-down boxes it says '2012' for each subject, and so would that mean we have to do all those subjects in 2012 (which is obviously impossible)?
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What are my chances of getting into advanced physics with a 35 in VCE physics, but without doing specialist maths?
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Went to the french AAD lecture thingy and apparently the stream of French I should do is French 3, French 4 (given how I went in VCE). However, I cannot enrol in French 3 (or French 4) because I do not meet the pre-requisite French 2. Do I really have to go to the faculty and get the waiver thingy done? Or is there meant to be a much more streamlined approach to this?
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
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Went to the french AAD lecture thingy and apparently the stream of French I should do is French 3, French 4 (given how I went in VCE). However, I cannot enrol in French 3 (or French 4) because I do not meet the pre-requisite French 2. Do I really have to go to the faculty and get the waiver thingy done? Or is there meant to be a much more streamlined approach to this?
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
This happened to me several times. Unless they improved the system, what I had to do was first get email confirmation from the french faculty to do the subject. After that, I had to email the faculty managing my actual degree (for you it would be MDHS) with the email from the french department attached, and requesting to be enrolled into the said subject.
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Went to the french AAD lecture thingy and apparently the stream of French I should do is French 3, French 4 (given how I went in VCE). However, I cannot enrol in French 3 (or French 4) because I do not meet the pre-requisite French 2. Do I really have to go to the faculty and get the waiver thingy done? Or is there meant to be a much more streamlined approach to this?
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
This happened to me several times. Unless they improved the system, what I had to do was first get email confirmation from the french faculty to do the subject. After that, I had to email the faculty managing my actual degree (for you it would be MDHS) with the email from the french department attached, and requesting to be enrolled into the said subject.
Thanks, will have to get on that lol.
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sorry if this has been asked I haven't read through this thread
what are the differences between level 1, 2, 3 subjects? also where can i see which subjects are level 1, 2 and 3 without clicking onto each elective in the handbook
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If the first number of the subject code is 1, then it is a level 1 subject, if the first number is 2, then it is a level two subject etc etc
So a subject like Accelerated Mathematics 1 has the code MAST10008
Since the first number of the subject code is 1, it means it it a level one subject
Something like Quantum Systems has the code PHYC30020
Since the first number is a 3, it means it is a level 3 subject
Levels may indicate the difficulty of the subject (i think)
Usually you may have to do a level 1 subject or two to satisfy the prereqs of a level 2 subject, and a level 3 subject may need a level 2 subject as a prerequisite
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/search/AdvancedSearch.jsp
To search for all level 1 subjects, just go to the section in the top right corner, and where it says 'Level' enter 1
Then you can choose the study areas etc etc
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I haven't completed VCE Spesh maths and I intend on enrolling in Calculus 1 and Calculus 2 in semesters 1 and 2 this year respectively.
BUT
the system doesn't allow me to enrol in Calculus 2 as I haven't completed Calculus 1 as of yet (since Calc 1 is it's prerequisite).
Is there a way for me to enrol in Calculus 1 for sem 1 and Calc 2 for sem 2?
Does this mean I must wait until I complete Calculus 1 at the end of semester 1 before the system then allows me to enrol for Calculus 2?
Thanks peeps :)
You only need to be enrolled in Semester 1 subjects. You can enroll in Calc 2 later. It is no big deal. Basically what you said at the end is correct. You can't enroll in a subject until you have met all the prerequisite requirements.
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Sorry, but one more question:
Are we supposed to enrol in all our level 1, 2 and 3 subjects?
If so, in the drop-down boxes it says '2012' for each subject, and so would that mean we have to do all those subjects in 2012 (which is obviously impossible)?
Nah, like I said, you technically only need to be enrolled for the upcoming semester. That having been said, it is important to plan ahead to make sure any subjects you want are available when you're planning to study them, and also ensure that you are taking the right subjects for your major.
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Sorry, but one more question:
Are we supposed to enrol in all our level 1, 2 and 3 subjects?
If so, in the drop-down boxes it says '2012' for each subject, and so would that mean we have to do all those subjects in 2012 (which is obviously impossible)?
Nah, like I said, you technically only need to be enrolled for the upcoming semester. That having been said, it is important to plan ahead to make sure any subjects you want are available when you're planning to study them, and also ensure that you are taking the right subjects for your major.
Omg thanks stonecold.
Why couldn't they just say that.. in one sentence.. on the first page..
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do we need to touch level 2 and 3 subjects? isnt that for 2nd and 3rd year
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do we need to touch level 2 and 3 subjects? isnt that for 2nd and 3rd year
It is fine to not take any level 2 or 3 subjects in first year.
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what's the difference in difficulty like in calculus 1 and 2? is it a fairly decent jump from methods to spesh?
what are foreign languages like in uni. say if i want to do german, do i start off at like year 7 level? lol
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what's the difference in difficulty like in calculus 1 and 2? is it a fairly decent jump from methods to spesh?
what are foreign languages like in uni. say if i want to do german, do i start off at like year 7 level? lol
Calculus 1 is required for calculus 2, so if you do them in sequence, they should be around the same difficulty.. Calc 1 is the university equivalent of spesh, minus the physics in spesh.
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this is strange
'MAST10006 - Calculus 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1. You will not be able to enrol in both.'
yet in the sample course plan, they've put calc 1, calc 2 and linear algebra in the first year column
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yeah someone else had the same problem and posted about it before on this thread
Just enrol in Calculus 1 first, and then when you finalise it, go back and enrol in calculus 2 separately.
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this is strange
'MAST10006 - Calculus 2 is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1. You will not be able to enrol in both.'
yet in the sample course plan, they've put calc 1, calc 2 and linear algebra in the first year column
No it's right, it means if you have done calculus 2 then you cannot take calculus 1. But you cannot take calculus 2 until you do calc 1 (or spesh). However, if it is not letting you enroll in the study plan, then it's probably just a problem with the study plan itself.
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Calculus 2 is required, but not necessarily in first year, although I strongly recommend you do do it in first year in case it screws up your subjects in subsequent years.
Yeah Calculus 2 ended up screwing with my timetable so I redid it at the expense of a huge headache.
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
I'll be taking the first semester 'The Big Questions' Karen's speech really intrigued me. I'm considering taking the 'Big Thinkers' or whatever it's called that incorporates God. It doesn't seem overwhelming but pretty deep. If not I might just go do a linguistics breadth.
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Calculus 2 is required, but not necessarily in first year, although I strongly recommend you do do it in first year in case it screws up your subjects in subsequent years.
Yeah Calculus 2 ended up screwing with my timetable so I redid it at the expense of a huge headache.
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
I'll be taking the first semester 'The Big Questions' Karen's speech really intrigued me. I'm considering taking the 'Big Thinkers' or whatever it's called that incorporates God. It doesn't seem overwhelming but pretty deep. If not I might just go do a linguistics breadth.
Calculus 2 has multiple streams though...and it's still screwing with your timetable? Also, although when registering into classes for your official timetable, you have to go to the same stream of lectures each time, but there is no one stopping you from just going to whichever lecture suits you.
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Having trouble with this subject choosing thing atm, I can't seem to find the subjects to do. When I go to "Choose" and type in "PHYC10007" or "Physics for Biomedicine" it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria". Also waiting for the uni to approve my uni math subject that I did last year ughhh
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Having trouble with this subject choosing thing atm, I can't seem to find the subjects to do. When I go to "Choose" and type in "PHYC10007" or "Physics for Biomedicine" it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria". Also waiting for the uni to approve my uni math subject that I did last year ughhh
Uugghh, Physics for Biomed... good luck with that.
I'm not 100% sure, but I remember last year doing a blank search. All of the subjects came up and then I just chose them from a list.
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Having trouble with this subject choosing thing atm, I can't seem to find the subjects to do. When I go to "Choose" and type in "PHYC10007" or "Physics for Biomedicine" it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria". Also waiting for the uni to approve my uni math subject that I did last year ughhh
I'm pretty sure you're entering subjects into the wrong category. You should be entering them into the BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1. I think what you did was you put PHYC10007, which is a level 1 subject, into BS-SCISUBLV2 - Science Level 2 or BS-SCISUBLV3 - Science Level 3 so it doesn't recognise it and brings up that error.
Calculus 2 is required, but not necessarily in first year, although I strongly recommend you do do it in first year in case it screws up your subjects in subsequent years.
Yeah Calculus 2 ended up screwing with my timetable so I redid it at the expense of a huge headache.
Also, thinking of doing philosophy but not sure if it's gonna be too hard. Opinions?
I'll be taking the first semester 'The Big Questions' Karen's speech really intrigued me. I'm considering taking the 'Big Thinkers' or whatever it's called that incorporates God. It doesn't seem overwhelming but pretty deep. If not I might just go do a linguistics breadth.
Calculus 2 has multiple streams though...and it's still screwing with your timetable? Also, although when registering into classes for your official timetable, you have to go to the same stream of lectures each time, but there is no one stopping you from just going to whichever lecture suits you.
Well I tried to fit it into 2nd year - against your recommendation and learned the hard way. All my 2nd year subjects needed Calculus 2 as a prerequisite and I was either trying to fit them into the semester after Calculus 2 or concurrently. I worked it out though, put it in 1st year to avoid all that hassle.
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Having trouble with this subject choosing thing atm, I can't seem to find the subjects to do. When I go to "Choose" and type in "PHYC10007" or "Physics for Biomedicine" it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria". Also waiting for the uni to approve my uni math subject that I did last year ughhh
Uugghh, Physics for Biomed... good luck with that.
I'm not 100% sure, but I remember last year doing a blank search. All of the subjects came up and then I just chose them from a list.
Haha what's bad about the subject? Knowing you it was probably too easy? xD
My uni math just got approved and I think my subject selections got fixed up, everything seems clearer now. Now I'm not too sure about whether I should do Experimental Design and Data Analysis in s1 or s2, does it require knowledge from the s1 math?
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When can we pick up the ID cards and diaries? :P
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They were both avaliable yesterday! You have to visit the epsc and go earlier on in the day because they stopped doing ID cards at 3pm yesterday :\
The diaries are pretty meh though.
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So the cards will be available there any day? I wanted to get it yesterday but they said we had to have enrolment in at least one subject in the online application - the emails that UoM sent told us NOT to enrol in any subjects so I didn't..
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Having trouble with this subject choosing thing atm, I can't seem to find the subjects to do. When I go to "Choose" and type in "PHYC10007" or "Physics for Biomedicine" it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria". Also waiting for the uni to approve my uni math subject that I did last year ughhh
Uugghh, Physics for Biomed... good luck with that.
I'm not 100% sure, but I remember last year doing a blank search. All of the subjects came up and then I just chose them from a list.
Haha what's bad about the subject? Knowing you it was probably too easy? xD
My uni math just got approved and I think my subject selections got fixed up, everything seems clearer now. Now I'm not too sure about whether I should do Experimental Design and Data Analysis in s1 or s2, does it require knowledge from the s1 math?
Everything is bad about this subject. The lecturers are woeful. Neither of them can explain anything, however the second guy is at least nice and tries to help you out. The second guy also writes really easy exam questions which is a godsend, because the first guy is just a jerk and writes questions which at points make no sense.
You guys have it even worse because you have to do an assignment every week, whereas we just had a couple of short tests.
And it is not at all uncommon in this subject to find that you will cover an entire chapter of material in a single lecture. The workload is enormous. I would spend entire weekends just doing the previous weeks work.
As for EDDA, most people who have done spesh do it in semester 1 and then Calc 2 in semester 2, whereas people who have only done methods do Calc 1 first and then EDDA. It doesn't matter what order you do them in though.
Methods is more than enough for EDDA. The most mathematical part of our exam was having to anti differentiate 0.5x^2
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Thanks for the advice stonecold!
Might actually do EDDA in semester one then so that I have more time to study the physics and for September GAMSAT. Studying well in Physics could possibly even be my study for the physics component in section 3 right?
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I didn't do any weekly work in Physics for Biomed. In retrospect, probably a poor work ethic, but it didnt make much difference overall
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I didn't do any weekly work in Physics for Biomed. In retrospect, probably a poor work ethic, but it didnt make much difference overall
Yeah, I just identified that it was going to be a massive pain from the start and pretty much devoted as much time to it as I could. They aren't going to have a choice but to study weekly because there is an assignment due each week. I also think it will be done through MasteringPhysics, which is going to force them to buy the textbook brand new with the online code. That having been said, I'd highly recommend the textbook anyway. It is just a shame that they probably won't be able to buy it second hand because they'll probably need the code.
Thanks for the advice stonecold!
Might actually do EDDA in semester one then so that I have more time to study the physics and for September GAMSAT. Studying well in Physics could possibly even be my study for the physics component in section 3 right?
It will be slightly helpful for section three, but not very. PHYC10007 does not cover circular motion, optics or waves in a context that is relevant to GAMSAT. These all came up on the test, and I had to work on the spot and guess. Not to mention you will only have done half of this subject by the time GAMSAT UK rolls around. Physics is not a big part of the test and I personally wouldn't worry over it. I somehow managed 100th percentile in the science section with limited physics knowledge. I said I was going to study physics before the test, but never got around to it. I just went in with around 6 or 7 weeks of knowledge from Physics for Biomed and could do the majority of the questions anyway. Chem on the other hand is the part you should really hone in on. There is heaps of it on there, and while there are some very easy chem questions, they also put some equally hard ones on the paper as well.
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Am I still able to choose Calculus 1 instead of Calculus 2 if I did spesh and got a score in the low 30s?
I was pretty lucky to even get in the 30s tbh (not a strong maths student) and I've basically forgotten most of spesh..
So is Calculus 2 difficult and a big jump from spesh? If so, would I be able to choose Calculus 1?
thanks
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If the first number of the subject code is 1, then it is a level 1 subject, if the first number is 2, then it is a level two subject etc etc
So a subject like Accelerated Mathematics 1 has the code MAST10008
Since the first number of the subject code is 1, it means it it a level one subject
Something like Quantum Systems has the code PHYC30020
Since the first number is a 3, it means it is a level 3 subject
Levels may indicate the difficulty of the subject (i think)
Usually you may have to do a level 1 subject or two to satisfy the prereqs of a level 2 subject, and a level 3 subject may need a level 2 subject as a prerequisite
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/search/AdvancedSearch.jsp
To search for all level 1 subjects, just go to the section in the top right corner, and where it says 'Level' enter 1
Then you can choose the study areas etc etc
If you're referring to my question, it was about the Advanced Placement Test to get into Accelerated Maths and what I should expect from it. Thanks anyway :)
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nah I was responding to David10d
but you're welcome
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@ Stonecold, how did you get the percentiles for each section of the gamsat? Or are you just comparing your section score to the overall score percentiles?
Am I still able to choose Calculus 1 instead of Calculus 2 if I did spesh and got a score in the low 30s?
I was pretty lucky to even get in the 30s tbh (not a strong maths student) and I've basically forgotten most of spesh..
So is Calculus 2 difficult and a big jump from spesh? If so, would I be able to choose Calculus 1?
thanks
Normally you won't be able to, but perhaps if you make a strong case to the coordinator then they will let you. Calculus 1 covers pretty much exactly what spesh covers, minus the physics in spesh.
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would Calculus 2 be much more difficult than spesh though? I'm scared it'll kill my gpa :S
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Do I have to do two breadth subjects in 1st year commerce, or can I just do one and do more to complete the 4 breadths requirement in later years?
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You don't have to do them both in first year.
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@ Stonecold, how did you get the percentiles for each section of the gamsat? Or are you just comparing your section score to the overall score percentiles?
Just used the percentile curve. It's the best indication we can get unfortunately. I am actually quite mortified with my section one score of around ~56th percentile... :/
would Calculus 2 be much more difficult than spesh though? I'm scared it'll kill my gpa :S
Most people who took it said they loved it. And I don't think it is possible that a subject in first year can "kill your GPA."
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You don't have to do them both in first year.
Alright, do you know how I replace the second breadth with an elective? I've got no spaces to choose the last subject for semester 2, the only extra space is the breadth subject.. Thanks for your help!
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would Calculus 2 be much more difficult than spesh though? I'm scared it'll kill my gpa :S
If calculus 2 kills your GPA, and you honestly put effort into the subject and tried, then I'd have to say you will probably not be able to handle subjects in later years let alone a masters or whatever else will require your undergrad GPA. However, if you are planning on transferring or something, then that may be another story..
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Can someone doing science please show me a screenshot of what their subject enrolment form looks like? The tree... Mine looks like a total mess and I'm lost, it's got level 1 2 and 3 subjects in a single row then just level 1 in another... Not sure if I put all level 1's where it says just level 1 etc... There solution to all your problems is to contact them which is pretty poor, and it's after hours now so I want to find out if I really have to.
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it doesn't matter where you put your level one subjects, you can spread it across the level1-3 and the one with just level 1. as long as the subject can be searched up in that option and you enrol in the subject then you're fine.
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Does anyone know why I cant enroll in fianace 1 and intro to microeconomics.....comes up saying I haven't met the prerequisites.....but I got way over 25 for English language :/
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Maybe the portal can't recognise that >25 for english language is equivalent to >25 for english and therefore it says that you havn't met the prereq. In that case you might have to go to ERC to get that resolved.
does it say which prerequisite isn't satisfied?
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Maybe the portal can't recognise that >25 for english language is equivalent to >25 for english and therefore it says that you havn't met the prereq. In that case you might have to go to ERC to get that resolved.
does it say which prerequisite isn't satisfied?
Sorry but what's ERC ;D
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what i meant was Eastern Precinct Student Centre. the place which manages enrollments. (i keep getting the acronyms confused)
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what i meant was Eastern Precinct Student Centre. the place which manages enrollments. (i keep getting the acronyms confused)
Do you have their number?
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http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/contact
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what i meant was Eastern Precinct Student Centre. the place which manages enrollments. (i keep getting the acronyms confused)
Isn't biomed managed by the MDHS? Could be wrong though.
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From my knowledge, no it doesn't. MDHS doesn't manage any of the new generation undergraduate courses.
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From my knowledge, no it doesn't. MDHS doesn't manage any of the new generation undergraduate courses.
Hmm strange, if you go to their facebook page, it seems like they are managing biomed students too.
https://www.facebook.com/mdhs.sc
So far this week we've had the new Biomed and DDS students dropping by the student centre. It was great to meet you all, let us know if you have any questions.
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what i meant was Eastern Precinct Student Centre. the place which manages enrollments. (i keep getting the acronyms confused)
Isn't biomed managed by the MDHS? Could be wrong though.
Nah, it is EPSC.
Edit: The MDHS just runs a lot of info sessions for biomed students, and many students go there because most people want to do post grad med, dent, physio etc. and this is where you go for post grad questions and queries.
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Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up. I knew that EPSC managed biomed, science and engineering back when I started, but wasn't sure if they changed that or not.
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noob question: does it matter which semester i put my subjects in? how does that even work -.-
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noob question: does it matter which semester i put my subjects in? how does that even work -.-
Well the semester you put it in determines the semester you do it in... For those that let you do them in either semester, then you will have to think ahead about what later subjects may require them as prerequisites. Otherwise, there isn't really a difference in which semester you do it in.
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How do you select level 1 Science subjects instead of breadth for first year? In the select subjects menu of the enrolment, I've picked 5 (which is the max) level 1 subjects and one subject in the Science Level 1,2 & 3 which I assume fills out the 6th subject slot for the year. However in the Science and Breadth Section it which I assume is used to select up to 2 science subjects instead of breadth, it only allows for the selection of Level 2 and Level 3 Science subjects and not Level 1 subjects.
Put your extra science subjects in BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3 if you want to do them instead of breadth.
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'Must have >=30 in VCE Specialist Mathematics is an Anti-Requisite for MAST10005 - Calculus 1 in which you are trying to enrol.'
does this mean because i got >=30 in spesh i can't enrol in this sub?
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nope you can't, unless you get permission
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No if you've gotten over 30 for spesh, you must complete calculus 2 and are unable to do calculus 1.
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No if you've gotten over 30 for spesh, you must complete calculus 2 and are unable to do calculus 1.
Theoretically, yes. In practice, some people get away with it.
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you'll have to give away one of your breadth subjects if you want eight level 1 subjects at first year
Assuming all completed subjects give you 12.5 credits, (I've been told a few do not) according to the guidelines, you can do 18-20 science subjects out of a total of 24
Assuming you want 6 breadth, then you must do 18 science subjects across levels 1 - 3
Take away at least 6 level 3 subjects (you need to do at least six subjects at level 3), you end up with 12 subjects that can be done from levels 1 - 2
Take away another 5 level 2 subjects (need to do at least five level 2 subjects) you end up with the option of doing a maximum of 7 level 1 science subjects
That's only if you keep all 6 breadth subjects, you can, if you wish to, trade in 1 out of a possible 2 breadth subjects with science subjects, so you'd enroll in the 'BS-SCI&BREADTH Science and Breadth' category and pick the science subject you want
anddd, can we start timetabling for the subjects in Semester 2 on the 30th?
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Nope, only for semester 1.
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goood
and I only have to enroll in the semester 1 subjects, don't I? I can leave Semester 2 for later?
so when I'm emailing myself the statement of liability, I will only have to pay for the Semester 1 subjects, and then do the Semester 2 subjects later?
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Is it really necessary to do Calculus 1 while doing Physics 1 if I haven't done specialist in year 12? What would I need to know for physics that would be taught in calculus?
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What makes you think you need to do Calculus 1 while doing Physics? You can do either of them alone. I did Physics 1 a semester before I did Calculus 2. Physics 1 only requires VCE mathematics (methods) knowledge.
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has anyone done japanese 1 as a breadth before? and is it difficult? I'm hoping to do an easy breadth first year
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What makes you think you need to do Calculus 1 while doing Physics? You can do either of them alone. I did Physics 1 a semester before I did Calculus 2. Physics 1 only requires VCE mathematics (methods) knowledge.
When I was selecting it, it was suggested that I do calculus 1 as well. Just wanted to make sure.
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These student cards are horrible...
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Is it better to do one of Accounting Reports and Analysis or Accounting Transactions and Analysis before the other? As in will one help more than the other?
How do you guys find out what the time slots are for the subjects?
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Question for enrolling for BSc
BS-SCISUBLV--science level 1 this section can put in 5 of your science subjects for the year
BS-SCISUBLV--science level 1, 2 and 3 this section, chuck in one more to fill up to 6 science subjects for the whole year.
..then do you know where you put in your breadth for the first year? Is it supposed to be under: BS-BREADTH 1-3-Breadth level 1-3 subjects?
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yeah, unless you want to do a level 2 or 3 breadth, then you can put it in the level 2 and 3 section
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atm im leaning towards majoring in eco/finance coz accounting may be boring, but im still keeping my options fairly open.
atm i have the 3 core units, calc2 and linear algebra but im not sure what i should choose for my commerce elective and my other optional breadth
is there a reason that i should choose marketing and management even though i don't have interest in majoring in them?
unless i misread the handbook, if i do two accounting electives will i still be eligible to major in accounting?
what do you guys think
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At the commerce info session, the lecturer said that a Commerce degree without accounting would be pretty 'useless', so at least do some of the accounting subjects if you can't major in it. With this said, only major in accounting if you think you'll find it interesting.
To major in accounting, you have to do these subjects in first year:
- ACCT10001 Accounting Reports and Analysis (Sem 1)
- ACCT10002 Accounting Transactions and Analysis (Sem 1 or 2)
- ACCT10003 Accounting Processes and Analysis (Sem 2)
You can do a double major with one of the other areas of study if you plan your subjects correctly and keep your options open. For example, to major in Finance later on, the only prerequisite is Finance 1, and in Management, the only prerequisite at first year is Managing and Leading Organisations. Most other majors leave more room for flexibility and keeping options open, whereas accounting is a major that you pretty much have to choose right away because there are 3 units to do in first year - you wouldn't want to do 3 units if you didn't want to major in it (and hated it). :)
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At the commerce info session, the lecturer said that a Commerce degree without accounting would be pretty 'useless', so at least do some of the accounting subjects if you can't major in it. With this said, only major in accounting if you think you'll find it interesting.
To major in accounting, you have to do these subjects in first year:
- ACCT10001 Accounting Reports and Analysis (Sem 1)
- ACCT10002 Accounting Transactions and Analysis (Sem 1 or 2)
- ACCT10003 Accounting Processes and Analysis (Sem 2)
You can do a double major with one of the other areas of study if you plan your subjects correctly and keep your options open. For example, to major in Finance later on, the only prerequisite is Finance 1, and in Management, the only prerequisite at first year is Managing and Leading Organisations. Most other majors leave more room for flexibility and keeping options open, whereas accounting is a major that you pretty much have to choose right away because there are 3 units to do in first year - you wouldn't want to do 3 units if you didn't want to major in it (and hated it). :)
Actually you don't need finance 1 for a finance major if you do an accounting subject in first year. The only 2nd year prereq for finance major is business finance, which can be done if you have completed QM1 and an accounting subject.
Edit: and you don't have to do any management subjects in first year either to do a major in management.
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At the commerce info session, the lecturer said that a Commerce degree without accounting would be pretty 'useless', so at least do some of the accounting subjects if you can't major in it. With this said, only major in accounting if you think you'll find it interesting.
To major in accounting, you have to do these subjects in first year:
- ACCT10001 Accounting Reports and Analysis (Sem 1)
- ACCT10002 Accounting Transactions and Analysis (Sem 1 or 2)
- ACCT10003 Accounting Processes and Analysis (Sem 2)
You can do a double major with one of the other areas of study if you plan your subjects correctly and keep your options open. For example, to major in Finance later on, the only prerequisite is Finance 1, and in Management, the only prerequisite at first year is Managing and Leading Organisations. Most other majors leave more room for flexibility and keeping options open, whereas accounting is a major that you pretty much have to choose right away because there are 3 units to do in first year - you wouldn't want to do 3 units if you didn't want to major in it (and hated it). :)
Actually you don't need finance 1 for a finance major if you do an accounting subject in first year. The only 2nd year prereq for finance major is business finance, which can be done if you have completed QM1 and an accounting subject.
Edit: and you don't have to do any management subjects in first year either to do a major in management.
Sorry, my bad. :)
I referred to this page and under 'elective subjects' it says Managing and Leading Organisations - so this isn't a requirement? I was under the impression that it was. :P
Oh and btw if I enrol into a level 2 breadth subject, does that mean I'll be doing lectures and tutes with 2nd year students? Or will it be separate for first year students doing level 2?
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Is it better to do one of Accounting Reports and Analysis or Accounting Transactions and Analysis before the other? As in will one help more than the other?
How do you guys find out what the time slots are for the subjects?
Dw about the first question... You need to do the reports unit first as you need to do it before you can do the transactions one.
What is the lvl of difficulty of doing accounting without doing it in VCE? Because a few teachers told me that i would struggle to pick it up since i didnt do vce accounting....
Also am i suppose to be able to see the units for Lvl 2 and 3 on the study planner? They have semesters already put in as well - as tho im doing those units this year :/
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OK, so i'm going to pick up a few accounting subjects for the first semester to see if i like them.
can i still change my subjects for semester 2?
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OK, so i'm going to pick up a few accounting subjects for the first semester to see if i like them.
can i still change my subjects for semester 2?
I think we enroll for semester 2 subjects before semester 2 starts? lol im still having trouble getting my head around all this... :P
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OK, so i'm going to pick up a few accounting subjects for the first semester to see if i like them.
can i still change my subjects for semester 2?
Yes. As a rule. If you don't want to be financially liable for your subjects, change before the census date.
OK, so i'm going to pick up a few accounting subjects for the first semester to see if i like them.
can i still change my subjects for semester 2?
I think we enroll for semester 2 subjects before semester 2 starts? lol im still having trouble getting my head around all this... :P
You are encouraged to enrol for your subjects for the whole year.
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In the subject descriptions:
From Plato to Einstein:
"This subject is available for science credit for students enrolled in the BSc (pre-2008 degree only), or a combined BSc course (except for the BA/BSc)."
What does that mean lol... I'm doing Biomedicine.
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In the subject descriptions:
From Plato to Einstein:
"This subject is available for science credit for students enrolled in the BSc (pre-2008 degree only), or a combined BSc course (except for the BA/BSc)."
What does that mean lol... I'm doing Biomedicine.
You can take this as breadth, but not credit it as a core science subject--is what is means.
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As a commerce student majoring in accounting and doing a language breadth is this possible:
Completing Japanese 1, doing a summer intensive, and continuing japanese 3 in second year? Since I can't do Japanese 2 because bus law is compulsory semester 2. Thanks!
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As a commerce student majoring in accounting and doing a language breadth is this possible:
Completing Japanese 1, doing a summer intensive, and continuing japanese 3 in second year? Since I can't do Japanese 2 because bus law is compulsory semester 2. Thanks!
By japanese intensive do you mean an exchange to Japan? I don't know if those even exist over summer, but studying japanese 'intensive' over summer in melbuni doesn't exist.
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As a commerce student majoring in accounting and doing a language breadth is this possible:
Completing Japanese 1, doing a summer intensive, and continuing japanese 3 in second year? Since I can't do Japanese 2 because bus law is compulsory semester 2. Thanks!
By japanese intensive do you mean an exchange to Japan? I don't know if those even exist over summer, but studying japanese 'intensive' over summer in melbuni doesn't exist.
ok so there really is no way to do this breadth track?
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As a commerce student majoring in accounting and doing a language breadth is this possible:
Completing Japanese 1, doing a summer intensive, and continuing japanese 3 in second year? Since I can't do Japanese 2 because bus law is compulsory semester 2. Thanks!
By japanese intensive do you mean an exchange to Japan? I don't know if those even exist over summer, but studying japanese 'intensive' over summer in melbuni doesn't exist.
ok so there really is no way to do this breadth track?
You can always do both japanese and bus.law in semester 2. Or you can do business law in second year sem 2 (still gives you time in third year to do corp and tax law). Or you can do japanese 2 in the second semester of second year. Or you could simply start the breadth track in second year.
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As a commerce student majoring in accounting and doing a language breadth is this possible:
Completing Japanese 1, doing a summer intensive, and continuing japanese 3 in second year? Since I can't do Japanese 2 because bus law is compulsory semester 2. Thanks!
By japanese intensive do you mean an exchange to Japan? I don't know if those even exist over summer, but studying japanese 'intensive' over summer in melbuni doesn't exist.
ok so there really is no way to do this breadth track?
You can always do both japanese and bus.law in semester 2. Or you can do business law in second year sem 2 (still gives you time in third year to do corp and tax law). Or you can do japanese 2 in the second semester of second year. Or you could simply start the breadth track in second year.
thanks dc302 except that during the info session the lady said that second year students couldn't do Japanese 1 or 2 :/ but moving bus law to second year sounds like a good idea! also does the uni allow students to skip a level?
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^ What do you mean by skip a level? And who was it that told you you couldn't do japanese in second year? Was it an actual japanese studies coordinator?
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^ What do you mean by skip a level? And who was it that told you you couldn't do japanese in second year? Was it an actual japanese studies coordinator?
yeah the lady in charge :/ sorry, I mean like do jap 1 in semester 1, and just do jap 3 & 4 in second year so skipping jap 2
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^ What do you mean by skip a level? And who was it that told you you couldn't do japanese in second year? Was it an actual japanese studies coordinator?
yeah the lady in charge :/ sorry, I mean like do jap 1 in semester 1, and just do jap 3 & 4 in second year so skipping jap 2
Oh that's possible but you will have to see the coordinator and get them to let you do it.
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
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What's the difference between the three? I know lectures are where you sit in a theatre and listen to the lecturer but what are the other three exactly? Also, what's the best way to timetable the four? I've heard that it's better to timetable tutorials early in the week because they're based on last week's lectures. What about the others?
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
You'll choose a lecture stream and a "practical" (tutorial) when you make your timetable
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Lol when will we make our timetable?
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What's the difference between the three? I know lectures are where you sit in a theatre and listen to the lecturer but what are the other three exactly? Also, what's the best way to timetable the four? I've heard that it's better to timetable tutorials early in the week because they're based on last week's lectures. What about the others?
Depends on subjects. Lectures are usually in large lecture theaters where you just listen to the lecturer. Some subjects that have small classes might have a more interactive 'lecture' in a small room/lecture theater. Tutorials are usually smaller and taken by a tutor. What you do in a tutorial varies. Sometimes it's similar to a lecture, but you go through a problem sheet. Other times it's mostly just going through problems by yourself or in groups. Some can be in computer labs for computer work etc. Workshops/practicals are pretty much what the name says. If you're doing a chemistry prac, then you're probably mixing chemicals and recording values etc. A physics/IT prac or workshop probably involves sitting in front of a computer most of the time. Maths subjects seem to call their tutorials pracs (or practice classes/practicals...not sure on the exact naming) probably because you're 'practicing' maths.
Lol when will we make our timetable?
Timetabling opens on the 31st I think.
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for biomed do we have to pick the maths and physics by ourselves or is it already picked for us?
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We have to pick it.
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I have a choice of doing either (as i want to do Doctor of Optometry later on): Fundamental physics (sem 1) or Optics: from rainbows to digital imaging (sem 2)
Should i choose both as i can use the physics in my GAMSAT? OR should i choose Data Analysis 1 instead of Optics as one of my course prequisits is: "completion of a tertiary level mathematisc and/or statistics subject is also strongly recommended (but not compulsory)"
Thanks in advance! :)
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
You'll choose a lecture stream and a "practical" (tutorial) when you make your timetable
Russ,
Will the University Timetable which is now available for viewing through the Student Portal, be the exact same as the one which will be released on the 30th ?
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1. Someone address the question above.
2. Contact Hours: A 2-hour lecture and 1-hour tutorial per week Total Time Commitment: 3 contact
hours/week , 5 additional hours/week. Total of 8 hours per week.
What is this 5 additional hours/week!?!?
3. Contact Hours: 3-hours per week of lectures and seminars
Total Time Commitment: Estimated total time commitment of 120 hours
?!?!?
3 hours a week of lectures.
3 x 40 = 120.
I really doubt that there are 40 weeks of lectures.
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
how did you find this page with all these times?
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Russ,
Will the University Timetable which is now available for viewing through the Student Portal, be the exact same as the one which will be released on the 30th ?
Maybe? Depends if they change anything between now and then.
2. Contact Hours: A 2-hour lecture and 1-hour tutorial per week Total Time Commitment: 3 contact
hours/week , 5 additional hours/week. Total of 8 hours per week.
What is this 5 additional hours/week!?!?
Well you see, you have to, y'know, actually do some study as well?
3. Contact Hours: 3-hours per week of lectures and seminars
Total Time Commitment: Estimated total time commitment of 120 hours
?!?!?
3 hours a week of lectures.
3 x 40 = 120.
I really doubt that there are 40 weeks of lectures.
No, there are 12 weeks of lectures, but see above
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1. Someone address the question above.
2. Contact Hours: A 2-hour lecture and 1-hour tutorial per week Total Time Commitment: 3 contact
hours/week , 5 additional hours/week. Total of 8 hours per week.
What is this 5 additional hours/week!?!?
3. Contact Hours: 3-hours per week of lectures and seminars
Total Time Commitment: Estimated total time commitment of 120 hours
?!?!?
3 hours a week of lectures.
3 x 40 = 120.
I really doubt that there are 40 weeks of lectures.
1. Lecture times are very likely to be the same, although they will open and close tutorial times based on number of students enrolled.
3. It's not 3 hours of lectures, its one lecture that goes for 2 hours a week, and one tutorial that goes for 1 hour a week. So 12 lectures as Russ said = 24 hours of lectures. 120 commitment just means they want you to spend this much time on the subject, but in reality, who does? :P
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
how did you find this page with all these times?
There's a link to them on the handbook entry of each subject, near the top.
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There seems to be many repeats running. Will they allocate you a timetable or will you have to just choose any lecture to go in later on in the year?
how did you find this page with all these times?
Find your subject eg. https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/CHEM10006
Click on 'view timetable'.
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1) For my major, would I be allowed to start it in my second year if I desired? That is, to like do one subject of the four subjects that comprise the major, in my second year?
2) Could I purposely do one subject over the summer break such that I would only have to do three subjects in the following semester?
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1) If you meet the prerequisites for a subject that counts towards your major (unlikely, as they generally require subjects in both semesters of second year), you could do it.
2) Yes.
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Ok, I have a problem. I'm currently tossing up between Philosophy : The Big Questions and French 3.
The problem? They're both first semester subjects ._.
I have a decent knowledge base in French already but I'm kinda afraid the course will be outside my capabilities. On the other hand, I really wanna do "The Big Questions". I suppose I could pick up French 3 next year, but I'm worried that than I'll be even worse off as I haven't practiced.
But, the problem with philosophy is that if I chose to do it, I won't have a second semester subject to do (the other philosophy subject doesn't really interest me) However, if I chose French 3, I can logically follow on to French 4 and everything will be fine and dandy.
My question(s) is this:
1. How difficult is the French course? Do you think it's do-able for someone with a decent knowledge base in French and a study score like mine?
2. How good is Philosophy : The Big Questions?
3. How difficult is Philosophy : The Big Questions?
4. Has anyone done both? What did they think?
5. Is it possible to take Philosophy : The Big Questions in second year? Will this ruin French for me?
6. if I was to chose Philosophy : The Big Questions, what should I do for second semester?
Right now in my study plan I've planned French 3 and 4 but after going to that Philo lecture (a girl dragged me along ._.) I'm really intrigued/interested. At the same time I don't wanna give up French. I'm speaking quite fluently now and I don't wanna have to throw it all away...
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Question!
can you do THREE breadth subjects in semester 1, and only one core?
and then, later on, of course...provided i've done prereqs...and all that jazz...i can do my core subjects in semester 2?
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Question!
can you do THREE breadth subjects in semester 1, and only one core?
and then, later on, of course...provided i've done prereqs...and all that jazz...i can do my core subjects in semester 2?
Yes you can.
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Also, these subjects that we enrol in...we can pull out of them and pick up new subjects before the census date arrives, yes?
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Also, these subjects that we enrol in...we can pull out of them and pick up new subjects before the census date arrives, yes?
Yep, any later and you'll have to pay for the subject and will receive an automatic fail grade.
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Hi, I'm having trouble adding 8 science subjects to my plan.
I've added 5 to the science level 1, and 2 to science 1,2,3 but its not giving me an option to add the 8th.
I can't put it under science/breadth because its only for level 2/3.
Can anyone help? :)
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Hi, I'm having trouble adding 8 science subjects to my plan.
I've added 5 to the science level 1, and 2 to science 1,2,3 but its not giving me an option to add the 8th.
I can't put it under science/breadth because its only for level 2/3.
Can anyone help? :)
You should be able to add it into BS-SCISUBLV1-3 - Science Level 1-3 as it can hold (12.5 x 3 credit points) of subjects Level 1-3.
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Thanks for the reply Peedles, but for me "BS-SCISUBLV1 - Science Level 1" has 62.5 credits points (5 subjects) and "BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3" has 25 credits points (2 subjects) not 37.5 points.
Is anyone else having this problem?
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How do i know which japanese unit to choose as breadth? Do you start from the 1st unit and continue up?
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Maybe this question has already been addressed but how do we pay the fees once we've enrolled?
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Maybe this question has already been addressed but how do we pay the fees once we've enrolled?
The uni will send you an invoice to your nominated address.
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REPOST, because it got bumped back a page and I really need some help...
Ok, I have a problem. I'm currently tossing up between Philosophy : The Big Questions and French 3.
The problem? They're both first semester subjects ._.
I have a decent knowledge base in French already but I'm kinda afraid the course will be outside my capabilities. On the other hand, I really wanna do "The Big Questions". I suppose I could pick up French 3 next year, but I'm worried that than I'll be even worse off as I haven't practiced.
But, the problem with philosophy is that if I chose to do it, I won't have a second semester subject to do (the other philosophy subject doesn't really interest me) However, if I chose French 3, I can logically follow on to French 4 and everything will be fine and dandy.
My question(s) is this:
1. How difficult is the French course? Do you think it's do-able for someone with a decent knowledge base in French and a study score like mine?
2. How good is Philosophy : The Big Questions?
3. How difficult is Philosophy : The Big Questions?
4. Has anyone done both? What did they think?
5. Is it possible to take Philosophy : The Big Questions in second year? Will this ruin French for me?
6. if I was to chose Philosophy : The Big Questions, what should I do for second semester?
Right now in my study plan I've planned French 3 and 4 but after going to that Philo lecture (a girl dragged me along ._.) I'm really intrigued/interested. At the same time I don't wanna give up French. I'm speaking quite fluently now and I don't wanna have to throw it all away...
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Are there any disadvantages/advantages with taking a Level 2 subject that has no prerequisites in your first year? And for anyone who's done it, how's Grammar of English?
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I have another question about chemistry, i think I posted one on here earlier.
When i'm selecting my subjects i put in chemistry fundamentals in sem 1 for first year bsc and then sem 2 chem 1 for first year bsc. However, it states that there is an error with the following subject selection, is there anyway to fix this problem because i know they say to do chem fundamentals sem 1 then chem 1 sem 2. Should I just change chem 1 to a subject like maths then speak to a course adviser explaining the information is misleading and ask them to change my sem 2 subject to chem 1 for me?
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I have another question about chemistry, i think I posted one on here earlier.
When i'm selecting my subjects i put in chemistry fundamentals in sem 1 for first year bsc and then sem 2 chem 1 for first year bsc. However, it states that there is an error with the following subject selection, is there anyway to fix this problem because i know they say to do chem fundamentals sem 1 then chem 1 sem 2. Should I just change chem 1 to a subject like maths then speak to a course adviser explaining the information is misleading and ask them to change my sem 2 subject to chem 1 for me?
You most likely won't have to speak to a course advisor. You should be able to enroll into chem 1 in sem 2 after you finish fundamentals anyway.
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Where does doing a masters/phd in a science get you in terms of employability? Research sounds like a more fulfilling but far less $rewarding version of engineering. I'd love to be doing that but thoughts of material stuff, family etc kind of push that option away. Because of this, I've been taking into account my graduate course and employment options and it seems like engineering is the most reliable pathway to doing something that I want to do while earning money.
Of course there's MD and JD, but neither are definite, even if I work my ass off for them.
So far I'm looking at this subject selection for first year that should allow me to choose anything that I've listed. All the graduate and employment options are pretty good in my eyes, except that engineering looks to have a more arduous path and more economic reliability than further science to get to the end. The problem is that I don't really like maths. To be honest, I didn't do much, if any, work for methods in year 12 and deserved a 30. I don't *hate* it but I like science and enjoy arts, so maths is at the bottom of the desirability pile.
Year 1
Bio 1 | Calc 1 | Eng 1 | Breadth || Algebra (summer)
Bio 2 | Calc 2 | Eng 2 | Chem 1 || Chem 2
Year 2 (does engineering have 2nd year prereqs?)
Anat | Physio|xxxxxxx|Breadth
Biochem|xxxxxxxxxxxx| Breadth
Year 3
BIO/CHEM eng | xxxxx| Breadth
BIO/CHEM eng | xxxxx| Breadth
I'm interested in the biology and chemistry areas, as well as psychology (might as well throw in the med prereqs). My most enjoyable timetable would consist of bio, chem, psych, music/language, however I can't see a secure pathway to a secure job with that selection.
Two big questions:
Is signing up for summer subjects simple (no prereqs etc)?
Does engineering have prereq subjects other than calc1/2, algebra, eng1/2, science 1/2?
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I have another question about chemistry, i think I posted one on here earlier.
When i'm selecting my subjects i put in chemistry fundamentals in sem 1 for first year bsc and then sem 2 chem 1 for first year bsc. However, it states that there is an error with the following subject selection, is there anyway to fix this problem because i know they say to do chem fundamentals sem 1 then chem 1 sem 2. Should I just change chem 1 to a subject like maths then speak to a course adviser explaining the information is misleading and ask them to change my sem 2 subject to chem 1 for me?
Two others have already asked similar questions, pretty much you should try to enroll in them separately. So enroll in Fundamental Chem first, and then when you finish enrolling and confirm it etc, enroll in Chem 1, and then there should be no problem. So yeah just do it separately and it should work out
Also: https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=MAST10008&year=2012
That's the timetable for Accelerated Mathematics 1
The handbook says I have lectures, pracs and lab classes each week, but that timetable doesn't show any of the times for the labs classes, any ideas?
and why are there so many repeats for pracs?
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I have another question about chemistry, i think I posted one on here earlier.
When i'm selecting my subjects i put in chemistry fundamentals in sem 1 for first year bsc and then sem 2 chem 1 for first year bsc. However, it states that there is an error with the following subject selection, is there anyway to fix this problem because i know they say to do chem fundamentals sem 1 then chem 1 sem 2. Should I just change chem 1 to a subject like maths then speak to a course adviser explaining the information is misleading and ask them to change my sem 2 subject to chem 1 for me?
Two others have already asked similar questions, pretty much you should try to enroll in them separately. So enroll in Fundamental Chem first, and then when you finish enrolling and confirm it etc, enroll in Chem 1, and then there should be no problem. So yeah just do it separately and it should work out
Also: https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=MAST10008&year=2012
That's the timetable for Accelerated Mathematics 1
The handbook says I have lectures, pracs and lab classes each week, but that timetable doesn't show any of the times for the labs classes, any ideas?
and why are there so many repeats for pracs?
The 'pracs' are actually tutes, so they are small classes. More students enrolled = more tutes.
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mm.. i've tried basically everything i can, even confirming it, or maybe i don't really know what to do with the system in general lol.
Has anyone tried to enrol in chem fundamentals and chem 1 in second semester personally and has a solution?
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Does anyone know if breadth subjects definitely have to be outside your faculty? Because it looks like the enrolment website allows you to enrol in breadth subjects that are inside business and economics even though thats my core.
And is it possible to change second semester subjects after completing the first semester?
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Does anyone know if breadth subjects definitely have to be outside your faculty? Because it looks like the enrolment website allows you to enrol in breadth subjects that are inside business and economics even though thats my core.
And is it possible to change second semester subjects after completing the first semester?
As a general rule, yes, they do have to be from outside your faculty. If you want to check whether a subject is available for you to complete as breadth, check the "Breadth Options" box on the subject page in the handbook. Subjects with the letters "UNIB" (university breadth) at the start of the subject code can be undertaken by students from any degree.
And yes it is possible to change 2nd semester subjects after 1st semester - in fact you don't even have to choose 2nd semester subjects yet
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HELP!
Trying to enroll in my subjects for bsc, i have put five in under the 'level 1' branch and I went to put my sixth subject in under the 'level 1,2,3 branch'... my sixth subject is Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1. I would like to do this semester 2, however the default is for semester 1. I already have my semester 1 subjects and I'm not keen on swapping any around...
How do I fix this problem? Should I just enroll in a different subect for semester 2 and not worry about it since I can't call the Uni and subjects have to be finalised by tonight...
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I wanna take a science breadth probably biology or chemistry. I did both 3/4s in vce, anyone have any recommendations?
Also engineering systems design 2 is only a second semester unit, is ESD2 required for 2nd year eng units or can you get away with doing ESD1?
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HELP!
Trying to enroll in my subjects for bsc, i have put five in under the 'level 1' branch and I went to put my sixth subject in under the 'level 1,2,3 branch'... my sixth subject is Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1. I would like to do this semester 2, however the default is for semester 1. I already have my semester 1 subjects and I'm not keen on swapping any around...
How do I fix this problem? Should I just enroll in a different subect for semester 2 and not worry about it since I can't call the Uni and subjects have to be finalised by tonight...
are you sure it's offered in semester 2?
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i'm not sure.. how do I find that out?
I thought subjects could be taken up at any time
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Is there something wrong with the Sem 1 timetable for this MGMT subject? Hopefully it's a glitch because those times are horrible..
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=MGMT10002&year=2012
Also does anyone know if lectures for 'Principles of Business Law' and 'Managing and Leading Organisations' are available to listen to online? On Tuesdays and Wednesdays I've got only those lectures, so it's tempting to just not go to them..
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Is there something wrong with the Sem 1 timetable for this MGMT subject? Hopefully it's a glitch because those times are horrible..
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=MGMT10002&year=2012
Also does anyone know if lectures for 'Principles of Business Law' and 'Managing and Leading Organisations' are available to listen to online? On Tuesdays and Wednesdays I've got only those lectures, so it's tempting to just not go to them..
For some reason the managing and leading organisations is only listing tutes 24 & 25. So there are 23 more options to choose from they're just not listed. Not sure why. The handbook does that a lot.
Business Law doesn't record lectures. The lecturer doesn't like it. He says that since there are no tutes, lectures are your only source of contact and he wants you to attend. It sucks, I know.
Management does record lectures. However, the recording system isn't guaranteed to work 100% of the time. I've had lectures I haven't attended not record properly and I've missed out on that lecture entirely. This goes for all subjects.
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Is there something wrong with the Sem 1 timetable for this MGMT subject? Hopefully it's a glitch because those times are horrible..
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=MGMT10002&year=2012
Also does anyone know if lectures for 'Principles of Business Law' and 'Managing and Leading Organisations' are available to listen to online? On Tuesdays and Wednesdays I've got only those lectures, so it's tempting to just not go to them..
For some reason the managing and leading organisations is only listing tutes 24 & 25. So there are 23 more options to choose from they're just not listed. Not sure why. The handbook does that a lot.
Business Law doesn't record lectures. The lecturer doesn't like it. He says that since there are no tutes, lectures are your only source of contact and he wants you to attend. It sucks, I know.
Management does record lectures. However, the recording system isn't guaranteed to work 100% of the time. I've had lectures I haven't attended not record properly and I've missed out on that lecture entirely. This goes for all subjects.
I know the timetabling for some first year Commerce classes are staggered so you may not have much choice when timetabling opens tomorrow. If the tutes are full, you'll have to wait till around O-week when they release more tute slots. Probably to give the international students a fair go because they enrol into their course much later :)
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I wanna take a science breadth probably biology or chemistry. I did both 3/4s in vce, anyone have any recommendations?
Also engineering systems design 2 is only a second semester unit, is ESD2 required for 2nd year eng units or can you get away with doing ESD1?
ESD2 is the required one, not ESD1.
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i'm not sure.. how do I find that out?
I thought subjects could be taken up at any time
No, not all subjects are offered in both semesters. Mind, brain behaviour 1 is only offered in semester 1. https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/PSYC10003
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I wanna take a science breadth probably biology or chemistry. I did both 3/4s in vce, anyone have any recommendations?
Also engineering systems design 2 is only a second semester unit, is ESD2 required for 2nd year eng units or can you get away with doing ESD1?
ESD2 is the required one, not ESD1.
I was reading some old threads and apparently esd1 you need for chemical, but you need esd2 for the others?
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I wanna take a science breadth probably biology or chemistry. I did both 3/4s in vce, anyone have any recommendations?
Also engineering systems design 2 is only a second semester unit, is ESD2 required for 2nd year eng units or can you get away with doing ESD1?
ESD2 is the required one, not ESD1.
I was reading some old threads and apparently esd1 you need for chemical, but you need esd2 for the others?
Oh yah I think i remember something like too. Might be a good idea to ask someone official then.
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the unimelb website doesn't give the times for the Problem Based sessions for Physics, what do i do for that?
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=PHYC10003&year=2012
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the unimelb website doesn't give the times for the Problem Based sessions for Physics, what do i do for that?
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=PHYC10003&year=2012
i would like to know this as well :/
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also, what's the pre-laboratory activity for each of the physics pracs? It says up to 30 minutes
The way I planned my timetable
I have a lecture from 9-10 on a thursday for maths, then the physics prac from 10-1 afterwards, so I have no time for the pre-lab activity stuff
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the unimelb website doesn't give the times for the Problem Based sessions for Physics, what do i do for that?
https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl?scode=PHYC10003&year=2012
i would like to know this as well :/
Guess you people will find out tmr :)
also, what's the pre-laboratory activity for each of the physics pracs? It says up to 30 minutes
The way I planned my timetable
I have a lecture from 9-10 on a thursday for maths, then the physics prac from 10-1 afterwards, so I have no time for the pre-lab activity stuff
It's an online quiz you do before the prac, ranging from weeks in advance to on the day. They are to test if you have read the prac manual, include about 3-4 multi choice questions that are very easy and takes like 2 minutes to do.
edit: when I said from weeks in advance to on the day, I meant that you do it in your own time
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ohhk, so I can pretty much do them weeks before the actual prac in my own time?
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ohhk, so I can pretty much do them weeks before the actual prac in my own time?
Yep.
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Is it okay if I miss one calc 2 lecture a week? Handbook doesn't list any requirements, and I can just work harder on my own yeah?
It's the only way I can get both Tuesday and Thursday off. :D
Edit:
If I had to clash one lecture a week.. should i choose to have the clash with Foundations of Computing, or Calc 2?
I.e, Which is better to skip?
The handbook doesn't give any sign of an attendance requirement, I should be okay with that yeah? :)
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/COMP10001
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/MAST10006
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Is it okay if I miss one calc 2 lecture a week? Handbook doesn't list any requirements, and I can just work harder on my own yeah?
It's the only way I can get both Tuesday and Thursday off. :D
Edit:
If I had to clash one lecture a week.. should i choose to have the clash with Foundations of Computing, or Calc 2?
I.e, Which is better to skip?
The handbook doesn't give any sign of an attendance requirement, I should be okay with that yeah? :)
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/COMP10001
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/MAST10006
I don't think calc 2 has lecture recordings, but sure you can skip all of them if you want. There are no attendance requirements. No idea about computing though.
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Thank you :)
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For Accelerated Mathematics 2, the timetable changed in the past few days!!!!
It use to be 11-12 every day except friday but now it's 3:15-4:15 everyday except monday. I told my manager that I was available past 3 for the entire year but well it isn't the case anymore since unimelb decides to be extremely inconsistent.
Do you think 3:15-4:15 is the final time for the lectures? Are lectures compulsory for accelerated mathematics 2? I know it doesn't have online lectures on lectopia so I would like to go to them but apparently for maths it's mainly self study? I really don't know any more. Might lose my job...
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I wouldn't recommend skipping accelerated maths lectures. There is a lot of material and unless you are exceptional, learning it on your own will be challenge. Timetables change, and it is best to let your work know that you can't commit to anything until they are confirmed.
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^^ Timetables are pretty much subject to change until timetabling happens so yeah, that can happen.
^ I still skipped :P
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Not for maths.
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Do you think 3:15-4:15 is the final time for the lectures? Are lectures compulsory for accelerated mathematics 2? I know it doesn't have online lectures on lectopia so I would like to go to them but apparently for maths it's mainly self study? I really don't know any more. Might lose my job...
If you skip AM2 lectures you will fail miserably*
* unless you are a genius
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Just in case I change my mind...how hard would it be to do two prac subjects in semester 2 alongside biomed core HSF?
I am already enrolled in Microbes, Infections and Responses...however if I want to keep biochem open, then I'll need Techniques as well?
Is it too much for one semester?
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Not for maths.
This says that accelerated maths 2 is lectopia enabled
Re: University of Melbourne - Subject Reviews & Ratings
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Just in case I change my mind...how hard would it be to do two prac subjects in semester 2 alongside biomed core HSF?
I am already enrolled in Microbes, Infections and Responses...however if I want to keep biochem open, then I'll need Techniques as well?
Is it too much for one semester?
Well for a start you don't want to do biochem, but it'd be pretty shitty. Micro is weekly tutes, Techniques is as well afaik. When they overlap reports or whatever it'll be kinda a rush given that HSF is the most full on of the biomed cores. I took Creative Writing in sem2 of year2 and it was pretty great to only have to deal with 2 subjects...especially in exam time with the 2 exams for HSF
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aren't the lectures videotaped or recorded?
accelerated maths I lectures are, i rang them up to confirm
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Just in case I change my mind...how hard would it be to do two prac subjects in semester 2 alongside biomed core HSF?
I am already enrolled in Microbes, Infections and Responses...however if I want to keep biochem open, then I'll need Techniques as well?
Is it too much for one semester?
Well for a start you don't want to do biochem, but it'd be pretty shitty. Micro is weekly tutes, Techniques is as well afaik. When they overlap reports or whatever it'll be kinda a rush given that HSF is the most full on of the biomed cores. I took Creative Writing in sem2 of year2 and it was pretty great to only have to deal with 2 subjects...especially in exam time with the 2 exams for HSF
Thanks. Yeah, at this point biochem is unlikely so it shouldn't be an issue. Just wanted to make sure though. :)
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Am I allowed to take two subjects over the summer semester if clashes don't exist next year?
I'd really like to lessen my work load for the overall year by just working a little harder at the start. :P
Also, a lot of breath subjects are designed in 'tracks'. I am not expected to fully complete them am I? That is, I can pick and choose the subjects i like from various breath tracks assuming I meet the prereqs for higher level ones? :P
Thank you.
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Am I allowed to take two subjects over the summer semester if clashes don't exist next year?
I'd really like to lessen my work load for the overall year by just working a little harder at the start. :P
Also, a lot of breath subjects are designed in 'tracks'. I am not expected to fully complete them am I? That is, I can pick and choose the subjects i like from various breath tracks assuming I meet the prereqs for higher level ones? :P
Thank you.
YES to both...many people do that
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Am I allowed to take two subjects over the summer semester if clashes don't exist next year?
I'd really like to lessen my work load for the overall year by just working a little harder at the start. :P
Also, a lot of breath subjects are designed in 'tracks'. I am not expected to fully complete them am I? That is, I can pick and choose the subjects i like from various breath tracks assuming I meet the prereqs for higher level ones? :P
Thank you.
Yes. 2 subjects over the summer semester is considered a "full-time load" and the maximum number of subjects you can do over summer without overloading. But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
Well, you've got roughly 4 weeks to cover 12 weeks of material. That would be the case for commerce subjects such as Business Finance and Finance 1. If it's a science subject like Engineering Maths, then that's going to be tough so it'll almost be a full time job. You'll be at uni for roughly 3-4 days a week. And God forbid any clashes if you do two summer subjects.
That's not to say that it's bad though. It is still sort of manageable because I know a person who did Finance 1 and Linear Algebra last year over summer and there's this guy I know who's doing Derivative Securities and Engineering Maths right now. The latter is not coping well though.
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
Well, you've got roughly 4 weeks to cover 12 weeks of material. That would be the case for commerce subjects such as Business Finance and Finance 1. If it's a science subject like Engineering Maths, then that's going to be tough so it'll almost be a full time job. You'll be at uni for roughly 3-4 days a week. And God forbid any clashes if you do two summer subjects.
That's not to say that it's bad though. It is still sort of manageable because I know a person who did Finance 1 and Linear Algebra last year over summer and there's this guy I know who's doing Derivative Securities and Engineering Maths right now. The latter is not coping well though.
Oh I thought it was 6 weeks..
Well the plan was to take 'Brand Management' and 'Managing and Leading Organisations' over the summer break.. And if there were a potential clash, i would replace the second one with another commerce breath or something useful. Just praying for no clashes I guess..
My main reason was to do one summer to free up the breath that would otherwise add on to my sem 1, year 2: quantum mechanices, thermal/classical physics and real analysis.. Which would be quite demanding for me :s Really hate the high no. of second year hours.
But then i decided why not try to free up next sem too by adding on a second one. But I guess I'll have to consider it more. :P
Thank you!
Edit:
But just by looking at this year's summer timetable.. Clashes seem unavoidable. :s Guess I'll have to find out a bit more.
How were your friend's comments on their experience? :s
Was it overly demanding?
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
Well, you've got roughly 4 weeks to cover 12 weeks of material. That would be the case for commerce subjects such as Business Finance and Finance 1. If it's a science subject like Engineering Maths, then that's going to be tough so it'll almost be a full time job. You'll be at uni for roughly 3-4 days a week. And God forbid any clashes if you do two summer subjects.
That's not to say that it's bad though. It is still sort of manageable because I know a person who did Finance 1 and Linear Algebra last year over summer and there's this guy I know who's doing Derivative Securities and Engineering Maths right now. The latter is not coping well though.
Oh I thought it was 6 weeks..
Well the plan was to take 'Brand Management' and 'Managing and Leading Organisations' over the summer break.. And if there were a potential clash, i would replace the second one with another commerce breath or something useful. Just praying for no clashes I guess..
My main reason was to do one summer to free up the breath that would otherwise add on to my sem 1, year 2: quantum mechanices, thermal/classical physics and real analysis.. Which would be quite demanding for me :s Really hate the high no. of second year hours.
But then i decided why not try to free up next sem too by adding on a second one. But I guess I'll have to consider it more. :P
Thank you!
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But just by looking at this year's summer timetable.. Clashes seem unavoidable. :s Guess I'll have to find out a bit more.
How were your friend's comments on their experience? :s
Was it overly demanding?
Number of weeks of summer depends on subject--some are 6 weeks, some are 4 etc. A good indication is the number of lectures a week... if it's double the usual number, then it's likely 6 weeks. If it's more, then perhaps 4 weeks.
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Since enrolment is finished... do we have a chance later on to enrol into semester 2 subjects?
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Just got 2x "Class Timetable Change Notification" :/
https://imgur.com/OG9Di
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
Well, you've got roughly 4 weeks to cover 12 weeks of material. That would be the case for commerce subjects such as Business Finance and Finance 1. If it's a science subject like Engineering Maths, then that's going to be tough so it'll almost be a full time job. You'll be at uni for roughly 3-4 days a week. And God forbid any clashes if you do two summer subjects.
That's not to say that it's bad though. It is still sort of manageable because I know a person who did Finance 1 and Linear Algebra last year over summer and there's this guy I know who's doing Derivative Securities and Engineering Maths right now. The latter is not coping well though.
I (very) briefly thought about summer semesters etc, but I decided that I would probably need a summer break, and for a subject like Engineering Mathematics which looks tough, a better alternative would be to use the summer for some pre-reading when you are not under pressure, so when you do it for real in Semester 1 it becomes easier.
Therefore when you are at Portsea next summer, take the textbook with you and crunch out some Laplace transforms and Fouries Series for an hour or so each day.
Just dont let anyone see you doing it :)
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Registration has closed for ECON1004 - Intro to Micro, except I'm not happy with where my tutes are since it has been crashing for the last few days and I initially clicked 'generate timetable' so I could at least register. My tute is at an extremely undesirable time - will I be able to change this in the coming weeks?!
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Registration has closed for ECON1004 - Intro to Micro, except I'm not happy with where my tutes are since it has been crashing for the last few days and I initially clicked 'generate timetable' so I could at least register. My tute is at an extremely undesirable time - will I be able to change this in the coming weeks?!
Yes. They're staggering the release of times. I read that on a notice on the portal yesterday. Just checked and the notice has been recalled. So I'm guessing they'll be out very soon.
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Thank you guys :)
But having said that, you're very, very brave for considering that.
Haha thanks! :)
But what exactly did you mean by that? :P
Would the workload be ridiculous or osmething?
Well, you've got roughly 4 weeks to cover 12 weeks of material. That would be the case for commerce subjects such as Business Finance and Finance 1. If it's a science subject like Engineering Maths, then that's going to be tough so it'll almost be a full time job. You'll be at uni for roughly 3-4 days a week. And God forbid any clashes if you do two summer subjects.
That's not to say that it's bad though. It is still sort of manageable because I know a person who did Finance 1 and Linear Algebra last year over summer and there's this guy I know who's doing Derivative Securities and Engineering Maths right now. The latter is not coping well though.
I (very) briefly thought about summer semesters etc, but I decided that I would probably need a summer break, and for a subject like Engineering Mathematics which looks tough, a better alternative would be to use the summer for some pre-reading when you are not under pressure, so when you do it for real in Semester 1 it becomes easier.
Therefore when you are at Portsea next summer, take the textbook with you and crunch out some Laplace transforms and Fouries Series for an hour or so each day.
Just dont let anyone see you doing it :)
Good point.. :)
That would also be a good alternative even for commerce subjects. :P Thanks.
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Current students who have completed 'Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity' and the other two second year physics subjects, could you comment on the following..
'Contact Hours: 3 x one hour lectures per week (total 27 lectures); 1 x one hour tutorial per week (total 9 classes); 1 x three hour laboratory class per week (total 6 classes).'
Did the subject complete in 9 weeks, or was the total 54 contact hours spread over the 12 weeks?
And if possible, how did you find the workload? :)
Thank you.
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/PHYC20010
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Whats a fun and interesting breadth unit to do? oh and relatively simple :P
Say i decide to withdraw from a unit and enrol in a diff one. What happens if all the time slots are full? Should i change back quickly... Or just wait till the 20th?
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Current students who have completed 'Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity' and the other two second year physics subjects, could you comment on the following..
'Contact Hours: 3 x one hour lectures per week (total 27 lectures); 1 x one hour tutorial per week (total 9 classes); 1 x three hour laboratory class per week (total 6 classes).'
Did the subject complete in 9 weeks, or was the total 54 contact hours spread over the 12 weeks?
And if possible, how did you find the workload? :)
Thank you.
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/PHYC20010
No it finishes in 12 weeks. Pracs aren't every week. I did quantum (not the other two) and for half the time, we only had 2 lectures a week for some reason (explains the 27 total lectures)...Workload is fine. The subject goes through mostly maths, but if compared to a real maths subject, the pace is incredibly slow. It was interesting though, although we did very basic quantum mechanics.
Whats a fun and interesting breadth unit to do? oh and relatively simple :P
Say i decide to withdraw from a unit and enrol in a diff one. What happens if all the time slots are full? Should i change back quickly... Or just wait till the 20th?
Just wait, they can't leave you without a time slot.
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Thanks dc302 :)
Another question, can we take level 2 or 3 breadth units? Or do we have to complete the prereq units first?
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You can do a level 2 or 3 breadth, provided you satisfy any prerequisites first.
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You can do a level 2 or 3 breadth, provided you satisfy any prerequisites first.
Sweet :D
What does this mean:
It is strongly recommended that students enrolling in this subject have completed first and second year requirements in their Course.
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For my majors I need to do Chem1, Chem2, and 2x Biol Subjects in level 1.
Now I have the decision with what to supplement my other yr1 subject with.
I want to keep my options for Medicine open, so should I do Physics 1 and Physics 2? Would it be better to do Physics 1 Adv and Physics 2 Adv? I imagine it would be harder to achieve a greater score, so if I want to keep the pathway to medicine open I would be better to do Physics 1 and 2, correct? Or could doing the Advanced course actually save my GAMSAT score, giving me a firmer knowledge, at the sacrifice of GPA?
Should I even study physics? is a 36 in VCE physics enough? Maybe I should do maths? The only options in maths available for me are Calc 1 in 1st Sem, followed by Calc 2 in second sem OR data analysis 1 in 2nd sem. Is Data Analysis 1 even worth doing seeing as it is not a pre-requisite for any major?
So Q1: Physics or Maths
Q2: If Physics, Advanced or Standard considering I want to keep options open for med - sacrifice GPA to boost GAMSAT, or sacrifice GAMSAT to boost GPA
Q3: If Maths, Calc 1 is a definite but what should I study in 2nd Sem - Calc2 or Data Analysis1?
Q4: And just generally what are the advantages of doing Physics over Maths in 1st year uni anyway?
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1) Which one did you like better, or enjoyed studying more in VCE? That might help you decide which subject you would rather take. No point taking physics, etc, if you hate it--you just won't be motivated to study for it...and so there goes your high GPA.
2) i have no clue about GAMSAT with physics. Can't help you there. But again, just consider your capabilities. Did you struggle terribly trying to get your study score for physics?
3) If you were to do Calc 1 in Sem1...and enjoy it and possibly see yourself continuing, take calc 2. data analysis, i dunno, sounds kind of boring. it's more quantitative stuff, not at all like that "pure" maths stuff you would find if you did calculus or something like that.
But, with data analysis, i think it is apparently useful for some majors. i don't remember which one it was, (pysch? not relevant, but oh well, just putting it out there) but a prereq for that major was something quantitative--so if you did data analysis, it might help. Alternatively, just look at the handbook..and do a search of other majors that you haven't considered--perhaps you can decide on your subjects that way.
4) No clue!
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thank, any more insight guys?
also i can only select 5 level 1 subjects. how do i get my 6th in?
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So Q1: Physics or Maths
Q2: If Physics, Advanced or Standard considering I want to keep options open for med - sacrifice GPA to boost GAMSAT, or sacrifice GAMSAT to boost GPA
Q3: If Maths, Calc 1 is a definite but what should I study in 2nd Sem - Calc2 or Data Analysis1?
Q4: And just generally what are the advantages of doing Physics over Maths in 1st year uni anyway?
Q1: Which ever you enjoy really, not doing physics isn't going to mean you write off the physics part of the GAMSAT, especially since you did VCE physics. You'll just need to do some reading.
Q2: Quite sure you need to have done Specialist Maths (and scored 35+ raw) to do advanced Physics. Physics 1 and 2 is way more than enough to cover the GAMSAT physics material.
Q3: No idea really, didn't do maths.
Q4: One less thing to study for the GAMSAT, and it leaves physics major pathways open. Apart from that, not much. So again, I'd really do what you enjoy rather than worry about it covering GAMSAT material or not (IMO anyway).
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Thanks guys for the advice. Atm it's looking like regular physics :)
Anybody know how I can add in my 6th subject? My Science Lvl1 is all filled (only 5 slots)
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Thanks guys for the advice. Atm it's looking like regular physics :)
Anybody know how I can add in my 6th subject? My Science Lvl1 is all filled (only 5 slots)
I think you add it under: 'Option for BS-SCISUBLV123 Science Level 1, 2 & 3'
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Question! For science students.. do we get a maximum of 100points of breadth? i know in commerce you do (aka 8 breadth subjects)...How about for science? :D
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Question! For science students.. do we get a maximum of 100points of breadth? i know in commerce you do (aka 8 breadth subjects)...How about for science? :D
No, we get max 75 only.
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don't do advanced physics, did you not read the 'survival guide'?!
apparently, it's extremely hard.
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don't do advanced physics, did you not read the 'survival guide'?!
apparently, it's extremely hard.
where is the survival guide?? :)
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I also did Advanced in Sem 1 and the normal stream Sem 2...although my main reason for dropping down was because the Adv 2 lectures were at 9am and I live in the outer suburbs and enjoy my sleep.
I think whether you should do advanced or not depends on what your attitude to Physics is. This is assuming that you meet the Physics/Spesh score prereqs -
If you just want to build up knowledge on Physics because you're planning to do engineering, or another course for which Physics is needed/recommended - I'd suggest the normal stream.
On the other hand, if you have a deep interest in the mathematical foundations of Physics and/or are hoping to major in it, I'd recommend Advanced. Also, from what I hear I think the exam is quite a bit harder, as are the midsemester tests.
Horses for courses (or bream for streams)
A post I did in another thread. Another bit of advice for newbies: don't take action based on a single person's opinion of a subject.
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I also did Advanced in Sem 1 and the normal stream Sem 2...although my main reason for dropping down was because the Adv 2 lectures were at 9am and I live in the outer suburbs and enjoy my sleep.
I think whether you should do advanced or not depends on what your attitude to Physics is. This is assuming that you meet the Physics/Spesh score prereqs -
If you just want to build up knowledge on Physics because you're planning to do engineering, or another course for which Physics is needed/recommended - I'd suggest the normal stream.
On the other hand, if you have a deep interest in the mathematical foundations of Physics and/or are hoping to major in it, I'd recommend Advanced. Also, from what I hear I think the exam is quite a bit harder, as are the midsemester tests.
Horses for courses (or bream for streams)
A post I did in another thread. Another bit of advice for newbies: don't take action based on a single person's opinion of a subject.
Hey just wondering how lon it takes you toget to uni ??
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Hey just wondering how lon it takes you toget to uni ??
Slightly over an hour - I take the train into the city, then the tram up Swanston. But I have friends with even longer commutes than myself.
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Hey just wondering how lon it takes you toget to uni ??
Slightly over an hour - I take the train into the city, then the tram up Swanston. But I have friends with even longer commutes than myself.
Hey prez, mind relinking that survival guide here ?
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If people dont buy textbooks then how do they study for exams??? i mean how would you know the answer if you get prac-exam questions wrong ?
also Where do we buy lab coats for out pracs?
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If people dont buy textbooks then how do they study for exams??? i mean how would you know the answer if you get prac-exam questions wrong ?
also Where do we buy lab coats for out pracs?
Apparently lecture notes are enough, I think textbooks are usually 'recommended' because they are just wider reading.
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Guys, I have a dilemma.
I -need- to do Chemistry 1, Chemistry 2, and 2x Biology Units in 1st year to be able to satisfy the conditions for all my majors.
That leaves 2 subjects left that are non-breadth.
I wanted to fill them with Physics for GAMSAT, but Physics 1 needs me to concurrently enrol in Calculus 1.
Re-read that until you see the problem
What should I do? How do people overload?
NB: I don't want to sacrifice a 1st Semester Breadth subject as I need Russian 1 to go onto Russian 2, and Russian 1 isn't repeated in 2nd Semester.
Edit: Pic uploaded for your convinience
(http://www.dumpyourphoto.com/files3/95555/uEPDL5z.png)
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It's recommended that you do Calculus 1, it is not compulsory, so you don't have to do Calculus 1 concurrently
Alternatively, you could do Chemistry 1 in Semester 2, and Chemistry 2 over the Summer term if you really want to do Physics in your first semester. You'd still be able to satisfy the conditions for all your majors, because you will have done those 4 subjects you mentioned before the start of the first Semester in your second year, and as a bit of a bonus, you'll lighten the work load for one of your semesters in 2013 or 2014 cause you'll have one subject out of the way.
That's what I'm doing, anyway, cause I also wanted to do Physics in Semester 1 but I didn't want to give up a breadth
Or, you could just not do Physics 1, seeing as you've already done VCE Physics - and the GAMSAT only tests Physics up to to a year 12 level
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If people dont buy textbooks then how do they study for exams??? i mean how would you know the answer if you get prac-exam questions wrong ?
also Where do we buy lab coats for out pracs?
Lecture notes usually cover everything you need to know. Apart from that, you always have google.
Hey guys, am I allowed to take a level 3 History subject as breadth in the first semester of my first year? If I am, do you reckon it would really matter whether I do it now or in my third year? Would I really be at any disadvantage?
What if I did a level 2 instead?
I believe you are allowed to as long as you satisfy the prereqs.
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Just wondering if you major in pharmacology, can you become a pharmicst straight after you graduate?
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Just wondering if you major in pharmacology, can you become a pharmicst straight after you graduate?
Not AFAIK.
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Not at all. Pharmacology is just the study of drugs, not the training required to be a pharmacist
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on that study plan branch thing what happens if I want to do a level 1 breadth but there is no option of "Choose" left?
Edit: ignore, called centre to fix
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Does pharmacology give you the knowhow on creating biomolecules and all the background practical knowledge, or is it all just theoretical drug and it's effect on the body?
or would that be bcmb or otherwise?
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The latter, theoretical drug effects, pharmacokinetics etc.
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Human Locomotor Systems opened up another lecture slot (at 8am though, the other one is at 9am), must be more people enrolled than they expected.
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Can I drop out of my breadth in like the first few weeks? And reorganize my whole timetable? Is it an easy process? I'm doing Chinese 7 and thinking of doing some Informatics subject instead.
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You can but you may have difficulty reorganising your timetable as most tutes will be full.
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Is it okay for a first-year student to take a Level 2 breadth subject (given that there are no pre-requisites)??
Thanks in advance :)
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Is it okay for a first-year student to take a Level 2 breadth subject (given that there are no pre-requisites)??
Thanks in advance :)
Yes, according to the advisor I got, but he advised we didn't. I think you would probably have to ask the information centre.
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Anyone ever completed Foundations of Computing [COMP10001]?
I'm quite curious on I will fare with little experience with programming.
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The latter, theoretical drug effects, pharmacokinetics etc.
Can you elaborate?
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You will learn about the structure of drugs, how and why they're designed and manufactured the way they are with respect to the effect they're meant to have on the body and how the body metabolizes them. It's mostly theoretical knowledge, you won't be taught how to prescribe drugs or which ones to choose for clinical situations.
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You will learn about the structure of drugs, how and why they're designed and manufactured the way they are with respect to the effect they're meant to have on the body and how the body metabolizes them. It's mostly theoretical knowledge, you won't be taught how to prescribe drugs or which ones to choose for clinical situations.
Is there a master of pharmacy at UoM, so that you can become a pharmacist?.
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You will learn about the structure of drugs, how and why they're designed and manufactured the way they are with respect to the effect they're meant to have on the body and how the body metabolizes them. It's mostly theoretical knowledge, you won't be taught how to prescribe drugs or which ones to choose for clinical situations.
Is there a master of pharmacy at UoM, so that you can become a pharmacist?.
Yup the post grad pharmacy degree will let you become a pharmacist :)
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You will learn about the structure of drugs, how and why they're designed and manufactured the way they are with respect to the effect they're meant to have on the body and how the body metabolizes them. It's mostly theoretical knowledge, you won't be taught how to prescribe drugs or which ones to choose for clinical situations.
Is there a master of pharmacy at UoM, so that you can become a pharmacist?.
Yup the post grad pharmacy degree will let you become a pharmacist :)
Cheers, what is the course actually called?? i tried searching for it but the closest thing i found was master of science which isn't it :/
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AFAIK, there's no post-grad pharmacy at UoM.
Only pharmacy schools in Victoria are Monash Parkville and RMIT.
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You will learn about the structure of drugs, how and why they're designed and manufactured the way they are with respect to the effect they're meant to have on the body and how the body metabolizes them. It's mostly theoretical knowledge, you won't be taught how to prescribe drugs or which ones to choose for clinical situations.
Is there a master of pharmacy at UoM, so that you can become a pharmacist?.
Yup the post grad pharmacy degree will let you become a pharmacist :)
Cheers, what is the course actually called?? i tried searching for it but the closest thing i found was master of science which isn't it :/
Whoops sorry, i checked and there isnt one :S I just always assumed that they had a post grad pharm course lol i mean they have everything else...
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'There will be more places released on 20-Feb-2012.'
Does anyone know what time more places will be available? I still need to register into some classes.
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Hey, is it normal for some subjects not to be listed on the blackboard on the LMS? I have one that's not mentioned, is this something fairly common?
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'There will be more places released on 20-Feb-2012.'
Does anyone know what time more places will be available? I still need to register into some classes.
10 am
Source:http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/Timetabling
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I'm just wondering what you do in the "problem-based" classes in physics. Do you have to attend them?
Also do we need to buy the chemistry model kit??Is it really needed?
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'There will be more places released on 20-Feb-2012.'
Does anyone know what time more places will be available? I still need to register into some classes.
10 am
Source:http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/Timetabling
Thank you so much.
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just a question..which is the best lecture to ditch? In other words, which is the subject where i can simply download the recording online without having to attend..and still be able to pass? (i'm not lazy..it's because of work :P)
biology, chem or calc 1!?
should i stay in calc 1 because it seems as though recordings will be pointless?
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Calc 1 isn't recorded AFAIK, so it might be worth going to that. If I was to choose one of those three to ditch I'd probably ditch bio especially since you've done VCE Bio.
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Calc 1 isn't recorded AFAIK, so it might be worth going to that. If I was to choose one of those three to ditch I'd probably ditch bio especially since you've done VCE Bio.
Yeah, definitely go to Calc 1 lectures because they are the most useful and not recorded. You spend the whole time frantically copying out the lecturers workings. You also need to go to the tutes to get the tute sheet and answers because they don't post them online. Tute sheets in Calc 1 are very useful!!!
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i see..so ditch bio and chem? i can do that. i HATE chem :D
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I've only ever heard minors in relation to Bachelor of Arts, not Science.
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i see..so ditch bio and chem? i can do that. i HATE chem :D
I wouldn't miss the chem lectures if I were you.
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i see..so ditch bio and chem? i can do that. i HATE chem :D
Talking like that is the first step in failing a subject and having to repeat it later. You shouldn't be planning to ditch anything before you've even started. I think you shouldn't be skipping any chem lectures; university level chemistry is very difficult, you should be making every effort to learn the content. As for biology, you're looking for the subject that is most 'lectopia-able' if you must skip lectures. So if you must then I'd go for bio cos it's easier to catch up on. But considering you're a first year I wouldn't be skipping anything, the most likely outcome is that you won't listen to the lectures later and then you'll either fail or just scrape a pass. Nothing is worth the fear of not knowing whether you'll have to repeat or not. So I say, don't skip anything.
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^ thanks for the insight. It's not that i WANT to miss classes...but i have other commitments, and just want to see whether it was possible to skip some etc etc. But, since more spaces in classes have opened up, i am able to attend them all now. So yeah :P
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I'm just wondering what you do in the "problem-based" classes in physics. Do you have to attend them?
Anyone?
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/PHYC10003
"Satisfactory completion of practical work is necessary to pass the subject (i.e. attendance and submission of work for at least 80% of workshop sessions together with a result for assessed work of at least 50%)."
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I'm just wondering what you do in the "problem-based" classes in physics. Do you have to attend them?
Anyone?
Where does it say problem-based? If you mean the tutes, no you don't have to go. You just work through some problem sheets in a classroom. If you mean pracs, then yes you do have to go.
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Is it possible for me to do these breadths? I have completed Chinese at VCE level and have a Chinese background but do not speak Mandarin at home.
1st year: Japanese 1 + 2
2nd year: Chinese 3 + 4
3rd year: Chinese 5 + 6
Thanks in advanced :)
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Is it recommended to have a Problem-based before a lecture for Physics 1? I have an opportunity to place a lecture before a problem-based.
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anyone else experience "Resource not found." when trhy try to go on fundamentals of physics LMS?
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anyone else experience "Resource not found." when trhy try to go on fundamentals of physics LMS?
I have that for one of my subjects (not the same), my brother just says some aren't up yet, I guess if it's not up before uni starts they'd tell us more about it in our first lecture? :)
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anyone else experience "Resource not found." when trhy try to go on fundamentals of physics LMS?
Just means the subject hasn't put it up yet. Had the same message this week, until the subject coordinator emailed everyone to tell them it's been put up.
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I went to the physics intro lecture, and im pretty sure he said tuts arent on monday but they are on for the rest of the week. Andtere is 8 pracs theoughout the semester. We'll know the date when lms is on
For bio tere is a shorter intro tut/prac on the first week. Oh and there arent any physcis prac onthe first week, he said that
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just a question for Quantitative Methods 1 lectures...are they recorded?
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Hey, a question about Chem10006- Chem for Biomed and Biol10002-Biomolecules and cells. How does the assessment for the Pracs work?