ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Bokkeswan on May 09, 2012, 10:50:57 pm
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Is one better than the other? I plan to do Arts, with Melbourne always being the goal, but recently I've found out both Monash and Melbourne are pretty much the same? Is this so?
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Don't know much about Arts @ Monash, but Arts @ Melbourne is fantastic overall. Anything in particular you want me to comment on?
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Is one better than the other? I plan to do Arts, with Melbourne always being the goal, but recently I've found out both Monash and Melbourne are pretty much the same? Is this so?
I don't believe there is much difference in terms of cachet with Arts. Based on undergrad at unimelb and post at monash, I like English more at Monash but politics was good at Melb.
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For Arts go to whichever one is closer or will offer you scholarship money.
Failing that, go to Melbourne
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For Arts go to whichever one is closer or will offer you scholarship money.
Failing that, go to Melbourne
Yeah Caulfield is definitely closer for me and Clayton's just a bus ride away, but my schools in the city so i'm used to the travelling, so i'm not fussed about distance
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Don't go to Caulfield, go to Clayton if you're going to Monash
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Whichever benefits you more, obviously. But yeah, if you really don't have a preference, pick one that has the best reputation. Sadly, Melbourne has a better reputation that Monash when it comes to arts...
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Depends on travel time. Depends if there's particular units that you fancy. I chose Monash because I'd heard of particular Linguistics lecturer/s there and that the course was fantastic, because I knew a bit about the music department, because it's pretty far away from home so I would actually stay and do study (yeah...no...) and because I wouldn't be tempted to go shopping every lunch break/every time there's a boring lecturer if I'm not in the CBD :P but that's ok... I still do that on my days off :S *smacks hand*
For Arts go to whichever one is closer or will offer you scholarship money.
Failing that, go to Melbourne
Yeah Caulfield is definitely closer for me and Clayton's just a bus ride away, but my schools in the city so i'm used to the travelling, so i'm not fussed about distance
What has this got to do with it? Yes, there's the travel factor. But I personally am between campuses. You can't exactly pick what campus you're at, it obviously depends on the units you choose.
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As someone who's almost completely settled on Melbourne but considering aspects of Monash, would it be fair to say that the working environments for Arts at the two schools would be very different?
My logic is that all Arts students at Melbourne would be very much liberal arts focused and genuinely passionate about undertaking the subjects that they are doing, whilst at Monash, this would still exist, however a large portion of the Arts students would be people doing Commerce and Law who are only doing Arts as part of a double degree to avoid boredom or expand their career scope?
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As someone who's almost completely settled on Melbourne but considering aspects of Monash, would it be fair to say that the working environments for Arts at the two schools would be very different?
My logic is that all Arts students at Melbourne would be very much liberal arts focused and genuinely passionate about undertaking the subjects that they are doing, whilst at Monash, this would still exist, however a large portion of the Arts students would be people doing Commerce and Law who are only doing Arts as part of a double degree to avoid boredom or expand their career scope?
I've not felt that at all. The cohort also changes (in each school) depending on the discipline within Arts you're looking at.
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As someone who's almost completely settled on Melbourne but considering aspects of Monash, would it be fair to say that the working environments for Arts at the two schools would be very different?
My logic is that all Arts students at Melbourne would be very much liberal arts focused and genuinely passionate about undertaking the subjects that they are doing, whilst at Monash, this would still exist, however a large portion of the Arts students would be people doing Commerce and Law who are only doing Arts as part of a double degree to avoid boredom or expand their career scope?
Those generalisations are often actually rather silly. Its sort of like people saying that RMIT is heaps more hands on than any other uni (partially true i guess). It might seem like it from the outside looking in but it isn't like that in reality. I dont think the prime reason for your choice should be what the other students are like. It'll be a mix of what you say, its not a comical kind of caricature or anything haha.
They both require very similar (or the same) ATARs. They both have their respective experts, monash has nick economou who is pretty well regarded in the study of politics, graeme oppy for philosophy, ect. They both have their fair share of famous faces. They're both well respected GO8 uni's. Theres no real tie breaker here except distance or any particular variations on programs one may or may not offer.
Theres absolutely plenty of people at monash doing straight BA, so, i don't know where you got that idea from.
If they're doing arts to avoid boredom or just fill up their room, they wont have a great time. It's not an easy thing to slog through if you dont care, hell, id argue science is a lot easier for that kind of thing.
They're both pretty much the same. Just look for little tie-breaks or variations in programs as sweeteners. Failing that distance/facilities (eg. having doctors/chaplains/career counsellors/student run library/whatever takes your fancy)/clubs/any academics you might be interested in/ect...
Theres a general consensus that Clayton is better [than caufield]. For most of my subjects the lecturers seemed to of hop between the campuses anyway.
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here's something you may want to consider;
im doing commerce/science at monash, and i have friends doing commerce and science at melb
their assignments are MUCH harder than ours and so i think its quite a bit easier to maintain a higher GPA at monash/less stressful (non-jaffys feel free to correct me, if you dare)
not sure about arts though, but i assume the same
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My logic is that all Arts students at Melbourne would be very much liberal arts focused and genuinely passionate about undertaking the subjects that they are doing, whilst at Monash, this would still exist, however a large portion of the Arts students would be people doing Commerce and Law who are only doing Arts as part of a double degree to avoid boredom or expand their career scope?
Since when does part of double degree = apathy toward arts?
In my experience it's always the arts/law students who work the hardest in their arts subjects (possibly because so many law students have superiority complexes and can't stand not being the top in everything? idk)
Also lol I would put money on a lot of UoM arts students wanting to do the JD and picking arts because of its reputation as an "easy" course