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Archived Discussion => 2012 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Physics => Topic started by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:02:40 pm

Title: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:02:40 pm
What do you guys reckon the cut off will be?

I really have little idea

could be anywhere between 76 - 84 IMO

I think some of the less well prepared students may have found some questions very hard (for example the log tension, the ball pulling on earth)

so maybe the average will be quite low

but for the more prepared students i think it was really quite an easy exam which 100% was quite possible on (not for me though :'( (silly mistake! fml -2 at least))

so maybe it will be a bit higher than last years at 80?
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: tjgoems on June 12, 2012, 08:09:48 pm
i think 79-80.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: kosta94 on June 12, 2012, 08:11:58 pm
by the sounds of it people on atarnotes forum did very well but i spoke to many people from about 10 different schools and they there whole class struggled so my guess is cut off for A+ low to mid 70's
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: afridilegend on June 12, 2012, 08:18:24 pm
I think a lot will depend on the leniency of the exam marker because there were plenty of explanation questions... depends on how thorough they want the explanations to be!

What was the cut-off mark for the 2009 one?? coz that was the easiest so this one's cut-off would be lower.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: Tonychet2 on June 12, 2012, 08:18:47 pm
id say 80 but wouldnt be surprised if it was 82 - ish
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:20:53 pm
09's was 86, really don't expect it to be anywhere near that
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: kosta94 on June 12, 2012, 08:26:22 pm
last years was 86, really don't expect it to be anywhere near that
higher or lower?
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: Tonychet2 on June 12, 2012, 08:27:28 pm
i meant 80 / 90 not 80%
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: jaydee on June 12, 2012, 08:27:49 pm
high 70s low 80s i reckon. the previous year's exams were more of the 'grab out ur cheat sheet, write the formula out and sub in values' but this years one was a lot less of that and more thinking involved.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:28:29 pm
last years was 86, really don't expect it to be anywhere near that
higher or lower?

i highly doubt the cutoff wil be 87/90 or above...
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: kosta94 on June 12, 2012, 08:29:28 pm
high 70s low 80s i reckon. the previous year's exams were more of the 'grab out ur cheat sheet, write the formula out and sub in values' but this years one was a lot less of that and more thinking involved.

this is the reason why i think the cut off will be very low because many dont think out of the box if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:30:24 pm
yeah but the A+ students shouldn't have that much trouble with applying their knowledge, therefore it won't lower the A+ cutoff that much (whilst it will lower other cut offs) IMO
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: Tonychet2 on June 12, 2012, 08:30:50 pm
last years was 86, really don't expect it to be anywhere near that
higher or lower?

i highly doubt the cutoff wil be 87/90 or above...
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2011/section3/vce_physics_ga11.pdf

last years cut off was 78/90 not 86/90?? 156-180 netted a+
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: kosta94 on June 12, 2012, 08:31:22 pm
ye i guess you are right, well this exam will separate the boys from the men.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: tjgoems on June 12, 2012, 08:31:40 pm
it was 86% not 86 out of 90
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 12, 2012, 08:31:46 pm
last years was 86, really don't expect it to be anywhere near that
higher or lower?

i highly doubt the cutoff wil be 87/90 or above...
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2011/section3/vce_physics_ga11.pdf

last years cut off was 78/90 not 86/90?? 156-180 netted a+
eep my bad, i was referring to the 09 exam
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: fisa2001 on June 12, 2012, 08:59:24 pm
Was the exam actually hard or are people on ATAR notes just really nerdy enough to call it easy?
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: duhherro on June 12, 2012, 09:01:04 pm
haha bazza , is the cutoff you are thinking for A+ or A?
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: kosta94 on June 12, 2012, 09:02:43 pm
is it possible guys to get a 35+ ss for physics if i get an average of A for my sacs for exam 1 B-B+ and an A for end of year?
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: vagrantshades on June 12, 2012, 09:03:50 pm
Was the exam actually hard or are people on ATAR notes just really nerdy enough to call it easy?

It's hard to tell. Structures and Materials was really easy, but there were a LOT of explanation questions which could have caused it to be quite hard for people who weren't strong in that aspect of Physics. I found it quite okay myself, but it was harder than '09 (which was ridiculously easy), but I'm not really sure how I could compare it to other years.

Though I'm hoping the rest of the state found it really hard. ;)
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: Bhootnike on June 12, 2012, 10:17:12 pm
Please, lets all hope it was high 70s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 13, 2012, 08:04:17 am
all that time i spent perfecting S&M like complex angular torque Qs, multiple scenarieos for different placements of supports (compression and tension) didn't help at al :'(
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: Pup on June 13, 2012, 09:22:57 am
i'm confused, here i have people who said the exam was easy, like easier than 09 and the others, its was hard and time-consuming,
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: appianway on June 13, 2012, 09:26:33 am
My guess is that the cut off will be higher than usual, but I'd be surprised if it's as high as 2009. The motion questions and electronics questions were, on the whole, very straightforward, but there were a few explanations, and the detailed studies questions (aside from structures) were not too hard, but not too easy.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: JBaker on June 15, 2012, 08:20:04 am
it probably wont be as high as 2009, but i think somewhere around 85,
the exam wasnt difficult it just had so many explanations, so its hard to gauge how hard they will mark them because its not like any recent vcaa physics exam.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: max payne on June 15, 2012, 10:37:26 am
all that time i spent perfecting S&M like complex angular torque Qs, multiple scenarieos for different placements of supports (compression and tension) didn't help at al :'(s
I know right? I was prepared for the hardest questions instead of the basic theory questions and it cost me...Damn those itute questions!
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: FlorianK on June 15, 2012, 02:34:45 pm
For me the calculation+multiple choice question on the vcaa exams are really easy(compared to some on the neap papers) and i guess everybody answerd them quite well. However compared the the exams from the last years i think the worded answer questions were quite hard. Especially the momentum question, i found the answer in the last 5 minutes.
I would say A+ will be 83/84%.
Title: Re: Cut-off
Post by: max payne on June 15, 2012, 02:50:24 pm
For me the calculation+multiple choice question on the vcaa exams are really easy(compared to some on the neap papers) and i guess everybody answerd them quite well. However compared the the exams from the last years i think the worded answer questions were quite hard. Especially the momentum question, i found the answer in the last 5 minutes.
I would say A+ will be 83/84%.
I highly doubt the A+ cut-off will be around 75/90. It wasn't that hard. Perhaps you mean 84/90?