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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: Surgeon on June 20, 2012, 06:54:16 pm
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Hey guys,
So I got my final SAC mark for Unit 3 today.. I was sitting on 80/80, rank 1 in the cohort until I got 19/20 on my language analysis SAC :( Sitting on 99/100 raw for Unit 3.
Not sure if anyone else is on 100/100 raw SAC marks but that's besides the point - I really wanted 100/100 raw SAC marks and rank 1.
I asked my teacher why I dropped the mark and she said that she gave me 20/20 but the cross marker gave me 19/20 and wouldn't be persuaded because although my piece was of a very high standard, some of the words in my piece were almost unreadable. I can understand this - especially considering I sort of struggled for time during the SAC.
Do you guys think this is too harsh of a penalty for terrible handwriting in some areas of my piece?
Thanks...
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get a life
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I'd really appreciate serious answers - I'm aiming for a SS of 50 in English.
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Seriouspost: One would think that's the minimum penalty not a harsh penalty. Forget about it, move on to unit 4.
Lessseriouspost: Why would you even care?
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Losing 1 mark doesn't seem too harsh, especially if it did make it very difficult to read.
Nice scores though, I know plenty of people with 50 who did worse than that.
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Argh - oh well. Thanks for the answers, guys. My teacher really thinks that I should have gotten 20/20 though so she told me she was having my piece marked by a third assessor. I really hope they find it a little easier to read..
In terms of why I care - I want to be the best in English and had distant dreams of getting a Premiers...
That's now down the drain considering I've heard you need perfect SAC marks (raw) and 60/60 on the exam.
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He's going for premeirs obviously ;)
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If some of the handwriting was illegible I would see that as being fair. You'll probably get 100 scaled so no need to fret over this. Fantastic result though, pretty sure anyone would be ecstatic with those marks.
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The mark's meaningless. Whether it's 99 or 100, you're still almost certainly ranked first in your school, which is what counts. Be grateful you lost that mark here where it's absolutely meaningless, and use it as motivation to not make the same mistake in the exam where a single mark will actually count.
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I'm almost certain that someone who was on 80/80 like me would have gotten 20/20 though.. :( that would make me rank 2...
Oh well. Nothing I can possibly do now will change anything. I'm just hoping that the third assessor gives me a 20..
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If VCAA struggle to read your handwriting in some areas then you will lose a mark or two. To the examiners you are a random student and they will not give you any special considerations.
You can get 50 with those scores man. I REALLY wouldn't worry about it.
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Omfg it's one mark who cares seriously, you can make up for it in your exam SAC marks are not everything
I was ranked 1 at a school that produces 50s every year and I got a 46
rank 1 != 50
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I understand that perfect SAC marks doesn't mean that I'll get a 50 and the fact that I have stuffed up Unit 3 doesn't count that much.
It does count if I want a premiers, though - and that's what I was hoping for..
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I understand that perfect SAC marks doesn't mean that I'll get a 50 and the fact that I have stuffed up Unit 3 doesn't count that much.
It does count if I want a premiers, though - and that's what I was hoping for..
To others reading this thread:
Just because you don't have 100/100 SAC marks, does NOT mean you have "stuffed" up a unit. You can get a 50 with even 90/100. So if you're reading this and going: "Fuck, I've lost so much more than 1 mark in English this year, I'm so screwed", you are NOT screwed.
Clearly, Surgeon has a lot of talent and has a very high expectation. If you're not of the same (and I wasn't), then don't read this and feel bad. You are still well on your way to getting your desired score with marks less than this :)
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I understand that perfect SAC marks doesn't mean that I'll get a 50 and the fact that I have stuffed up Unit 3 doesn't count that much.
It does count if I want a premiers, though - and that's what I was hoping for..
The point is you haven't stuffed up unit 3! You're still likely ranked first. If you think that there's others out there with full marks, firstly, I've got doubts. Secondly, if there are, being ranked below them doesn't really matter since someone who's got full marks at a school like Haileybury is likely to get an extremely high score anyway. You don't need to be ranked first to get a 50 if those others are at a similar standard to you. Case in point, MHS had 13 50s in business management a few years back with several of those being Premier's Awards IIRC. Which means whoever was ranked 13 (or possibly even lower) still managed to get a 50. Be proud of your ridiculous SAC score already and go into unit 4 with a similar mindset. I don't want you heading into unit 4 thinking that you've got something you desperately need to change or fix.
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I understand that perfect SAC marks doesn't mean that I'll get a 50 and the fact that I have stuffed up Unit 3 doesn't count that much.
It does count if I want a premiers, though - and that's what I was hoping for..
To others reading this thread:
Just because you don't have 100/100 SAC marks, does NOT mean you have "stuffed" up a unit. You can get a 50 with even 90/100. So if you're reading this and going: "Fuck, I've lost so much more than 1 mark in English this year, I'm so screwed", you are NOT screwed.
Clearly, Surgeon has a lot of talent and has a very high expectation. If you're not of the same (and I wasn't), then don't read this and feel bad. You are still well on your way to getting your desired score with marks less than this :)
Actually yeah that was actually a wrong thing to say. 99/100 will definitely be scaled to 100/100 anyways but I meant that I stuffed up my hopes of getting a Premiers in English.
99/100 isn't a bad score but like you said, Vege, I do have very high expectations.
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I understand that perfect SAC marks doesn't mean that I'll get a 50 and the fact that I have stuffed up Unit 3 doesn't count that much.
It does count if I want a premiers, though - and that's what I was hoping for..
The point is you haven't stuffed up unit 3! You're still likely ranked first. If you think that there's others out there with full marks, firstly, I've got doubts. Secondly, if there are, being ranked below them doesn't really matter since someone who's got full marks at a school like Haileybury is likely to get an extremely high score anyway. You don't need to be ranked first to get a 50 if those others are at a similar standard to you. Case in point, MHS had 13 50s in business management a few years back with several of those being Premier's Awards IIRC. Which means whoever was ranked 13 (or possibly even lower) still managed to get a 50. Be proud of your ridiculous SAC score already and go into unit 4 with a similar mindset. I don't want you heading into unit 4 thinking that you've got something you desperately need to change or fix.
Thanks Shinny - I'll definitely try my hardest. I've only go two SACs in Unit 4 - two essays worth 50 marks each! :O Definitely need to secure 100/100 for Unit 4 so hopefully with the help of your book - ill do it.
By the way, thank you for writing the book and sharing your wealth of knowledge. I owe my 99/100 to you.
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That's now down the drain considering I've heard you need perfect SAC marks (raw) and 60/60 on the exam.
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No one will give a shit if you get a Premiers Award.
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IMHO the percentage of people that cares about one person getting the premier's award is relatively small compared to the population in Victoria to the point that it is effectively zero.
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Looks like OP has been answered
Pre-emptive lock to prevent shitfight